Um, are we doing this? UO!

melody921 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

Last night my DH was googling Doodles. They have St. Bernadoodles now. And Nufydoodles.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/awesome-poodle-mixes-that-you-didnt-know-existed#3r35dcr

Bernese Mtn. Dogs are one of my favorite dogs in the whole world and I do admit, yes, crossed with a Doodle, it is still adorable. That's the only Doodle I can get on board with. I just hate Poodle hair and how it looks. Reminds me too much of little old ladies and their perms.

UM, I now need a cavapoo or a whoodle. The foodle is really ugly though.

melody921 · July 2014

Hyaline said:

melody921 said:

Not sure if this is a new movement or what, but I am not on board with schools that don't teach reading in kindergarten. We have a local charter school that doesn't even begin reading until 2nd grade.

...if they're not teaching them reading fundamentals, what *are* they teaching them? I would have been so effing bored.

UO: If it's fluffy education-jargon "teamwork" "critical thinking" "things that sound good in theory but don't stand by themselves because you learn them *by doing and learning other things*" BS I call shenanigans.

They apparently teach "pre-reading skills," which in my mind, should be taught in pre-K. My mom taught me to read before kindergarten, so I was a little bored in class. But by the time we got to first grade, everyone was reading, even if not well.

melody921 · July 2014

BeebopandBuddy said:

Eastie156 said:

My BMB has a thread up about how we want to post our birth stories. The thread is already so long and convoluded (sp?) that I don't want to read it. Why do we have decide how to post on a board something that's happening 8-12 weeks from now? This is way overboard, IMO. Just post your damn birth story and go about your day or decide later. But now? Too early and who cares.

I saw that there was a mucus plug post yesterday. I didn't open it.

UO - I don't always think that the parent knows what's best for their child. I have a close friend with a 10 year old that has severe behavioral issues. His parents don't punish him, ever. They threaten a lot but don't follow through. The school psychologist has met with them numerous times, most of their friends have made suggestions and they always come back with,"You guys don't know him like we do, we know what he needs.' He has no friends and it makes me feel really bad for him. I also can't stand him because he's a shithead, and I blame his parents for that.
Thats so sad. I definitely agree with this. When I used to work with kids placed in group homes due to behavioral issues, I saw a few instances where the parents could have modified what they did and how they interacted with the child and the kid could have stayed in the home. The parents just would not listen. They would visit and say "I can't believe he does xyz with you, he would never do that for us!" That's because the issue isn't with him, it's with you.

I see this a lot too. I think at least half of the kids in residential care through our agency could have remained with family if the parents would step up and do what they need to do. It's so sad.

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

Yeah, I think "pre-reading skills" is BS. What would that be? Letter identification? Letter sounds? My 3-year-old knows these and doesn't need to practice them for the next 3 years before learning to read .

hmp1 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

I know a few Southern girls who still call their Dad's Daddy and for some reason that isn't as weird to me as the trashy girls I went to high school with who still call their Mom Mommy.

I just automatically think of Mommy Dearest.

AHHHH!!!!

I definitely think it is different coming in a southern drawl vs a "daddy's girl" way. My 90 year old grandmother says daddy when referring to her father in her very southern accent. It is adorable. She never says mommy, always mother.

AlinnJo · July 2014

I don't think some people understand what some kids come into school NOT knowing. The average 5 year old coming into my K classes could count to 10, knew maybe 5 sounds, and could identify 7-10 letters of the alphabet. Those of you with kids knowing their letters and numbers and starting to read before Kindergarten are RARE in my area. VERY RARE!!! So while I don't think waiting until 2nd grade to teach reading is ok, I understand not formally teaching it to the whole K class. The majority of the class isn't ready. At all. I don't mean the kids that are ready shouldn't get it, but I don't think it should be taught as a whole group lesson when the whole group isn't ready.

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

origamipoppy said:
I don't think your kid is going to write in text speak just because they go to a poorly ranked school. I think they'll write in text speak if they're never corrected on it and explained why it makes them look dumb.

I did not mean to imply that there is a direct correlation between the two. I was just trying to give an example of some of the things I have seen and heard lately that worry me reading/writing-wise and that's one of them.

AlinnJo · July 2014

IndigoVader said:

I was fareaking out earlier this week because I am trying to find a school for the Indyman. I live in an area where the majority of the schools are failing and that was my biggest concern, because I was afraid Indy would be missing out. Luckily for me, a close friend snapped me out of the funk. It is just as much our responsibility to be all up in their alphabet soup when it comes to school work. We are great moms, we will push our kids to meet their fullest potential. Yes, the teachers do matter, but we put an awful lot of responsibility/pressure on the schools/teachers when it is our responsibility too. Not sure if that is aUO/ FFFC or just me babbling.

I love this. So much TRUTH!

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

Maybe this is an FFFC and I'll get flamed, but here goes:

I 100% recognize that parents bear the burden of making sure their kids are educated, doing their work, learning what they need to know. When I look at the time that I am able to spend with my kids during the week and what needs to get done during that time between work/school and bed, I feel like I really need to have a strong school curriculum to back me up.

I pick the kids up, we need to get dinner done, bath, maybe an errand and, in the future, homework. I can assess what they're learning during that time, but I don't see a lot of time for teaching new skills and I don't see them being prepped to learn after being at school all day.

Maybe I'm overthinking it, I usually am, but I am comforted by the stuff they learn at DC now that I never would have thought of or didn't know how to best teach them. I want that for when they start school too.
Mobile

melody921 · July 2014

IndigoVader said:

I was fareaking out earlier this week because I am trying to find a school for the Indyman. I live in an area where the majority of the schools are failing and that was my biggest concern, because I was afraid Indy would be missing out. Luckily for me, a close friend snapped me out of the funk. It is just as much our responsibility to be all up in their alphabet soup when it comes to school work. We are great moms, we will push our kids to meet their fullest potential. Yes, the teachers do matter, but we put an awful lot of responsibility/pressure on the schools/teachers when it is our responsibility too. Not sure if that is aUO/ FFFC or just me babbling.

Totally agree that what's going on at home matters too, but I think it's still important to have a good school.

melody921 · July 2014

BeebopandBuddy said:

I don't think your kid is going to write in text speak just because they go to a poorly ranked school. I think they'll write in text speak if they're never corrected on it and explained why it makes them look dumb.
I did not mean to imply that there is a direct correlation between the two. I was just trying to give an example of some of the things I have seen and heard lately that worry me reading/writing-wise and that's one of them.

Or how about the overuse of the double negative, like this gem I received yesterday: "Press conferences are not permitted on site under no circumstance."

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

origamipoppy said:

Um. "Bad" schools typically still have good or strong curriculum. Rankings are a lot based on levels of learning, drop out rates (often outside of the schools control), and test scores from arbitrarily written tests. There are great and horrible teachers every where, even at good schools. Don't put the onus on the school if your kid does poorly though.

This is what I was going to say. I know a L O T of dumb people that went to "good" schools, and I know a couple dumb teachers who teach at good schools.

I think it's my responsibility as a parent to foster the learning at home and expound on what they're doing in school. With things like AP chem or Pre-Calc that I really struggled with, my Dad could and would try and explain it to me in a different way. We didn't sit down every night and work on homework, but if I was struggling with something, it didn't matter what else we had going on that night, we focused on homework until it made more sense.

Also, I don't remember ever having homework until like 5th grade. I think the idea of giving kids K-3rd graders homework is weird. My nephew is 9 and had roughly an hour of homework everyday last year. I thought for sure my brother was exaggerating, but he wasn't!

27boo · July 2014

AlinnJo said:
I have mixed feelings about nnot teaching reading in Kindergarten. When kids enter K, they are at all at different sorts of levels. Some kids are already reading or are really interested in it. I think it is great to keep those kids going. However, some kids enter K knowing very little.I mean VERY little. It is extremely hard for a K teacher to get all of these kids to the same level at the end of the year. While I can understand not formally teaching reading to the whole class, I really support doing a more individualized instruction to meet each student's different needs. However, when you have 28 students in your class all on different levels, individualized instruction becomes nearly impossible. Sad.

We implemented a new intervention curriculum last year K-3 and now K-4. The K teacher dropped her old curriculum uses this exclusively. Her kiddos are in groups of 3-4-5 at their level. Lowest with sp-ed teacher, etc. for that half hr. They can move in/out of groups as they grow. She loved the program and I think it's great for that situation. Also, all of the responsibility to help every kid doesn't just fall to the K teacher.

I realize not every school has these resources though.

Pokedot · July 2014

Eastie156 said:

Pokedot said:

I think they should still teach cursive writing because how do you desipher between writing your name and your signature? If no cursive is taught they'd be the same. For legal documents they need to be different.

BTW Hi ladies! I was on vacation!
Legal documents are now being signed electronically with an "e-signature". It's a signature that you click on, adopt and use. Ironically, it's still a cursive signature though

Not all legal documents. At least in my profession. It says "signature" which doesn't mean written it means signing your name. Our paperwork is legally binding but we don't have e-signatures.

hmp1 · July 2014

BeebopandBuddy said:

Maybe this is an FFFC and I'll get flamed, but here goes: I 100% recognize that parents bear the burden of making sure their kids are educated, doing their work, learning what they need to know. When I look at the time that I am able to spend with my kids during the week and what needs to get done during that time between work/school and bed, I feel like I really need to have a strong school curriculum to back me up. I pick the kids up, we need to get dinner done, bath, maybe an errand and, in the future, homework. I can assess what they're learning during that time, but I don't see a lot of time for teaching new skills and I don't see them being prepped to learn after being at school all day. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I usually am, but I am comforted by the stuff they learn at DC now that I never would have thought of or didn't know how to best teach them. I want that for when they start school too. Mobile

I agree. While I think it is important for me to make them do their homework and keep an open daily dialogue about what they are learning at school, it is the teacher's job to teach my kids and the school's job to have a challenging but appropriate curriculum. I am not a teacher. I am fine with picking up the slack on some non-essential things like cursive or books that don't make the reading list, but I work full time too. I want to ensure plenty of time for having fun with my kids. It is noble to take on the responsibility to help your kids where you feel the school may be failing them. But nothing wrong with wanting the kids to go to good schools to lessen that burden on you.

I am currently pondering the difference of how my kids will react to a "great shool" where they will most likely not be at the top of their class vs a "good school" where I think they will have a better chance at being at the top. Will they achieve better results with the higher competition, or will that discourage them and make them not try as hard. FWP.

melody921 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

origamipoppy said:

Um. "Bad" schools typically still have good or strong curriculum. Rankings are a lot based on levels of learning, drop out rates (often outside of the schools control), and test scores from arbitrarily written tests. There are great and horrible teachers every where, even at good schools. Don't put the onus on the school if your kid does poorly though.

This is what I was going to say. I know a L O T of dumb people that went to "good" schools, and I know a couple dumb teachers who teach at good schools.

I think it's my responsibility as a parent to foster the learning at home and expound on what they're doing in school. With things like AP chem or Pre-Calc that I really struggled with, my Dad could and would try and explain it to me in a different way. We didn't sit down every night and work on homework, but if I was struggling with something, it didn't matter what else we had going on that night, we focused on homework until it made more sense.

Also, I don't remember ever having homework until like 5th grade. I think the idea of giving kids K-3rd graders homework is weird. My nephew is 9 and had roughly an hour of homework everyday last year. I thought for sure my brother was exaggerating, but he wasn't!

I definitely had homework from first grade on, but it seems like it's gotten out of control with how much kids get nowadays.

melody921 · July 2014

hmp1 said:

BeebopandBuddy said:

Maybe this is an FFFC and I'll get flamed, but here goes: I 100% recognize that parents bear the burden of making sure their kids are educated, doing their work, learning what they need to know. When I look at the time that I am able to spend with my kids during the week and what needs to get done during that time between work/school and bed, I feel like I really need to have a strong school curriculum to back me up. I pick the kids up, we need to get dinner done, bath, maybe an errand and, in the future, homework. I can assess what they're learning during that time, but I don't see a lot of time for teaching new skills and I don't see them being prepped to learn after being at school all day. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I usually am, but I am comforted by the stuff they learn at DC now that I never would have thought of or didn't know how to best teach them. I want that for when they start school too. Mobile

I agree. While I think it is important for me to make them do their homework and keep an open daily dialogue about what they are learning at school, it is the teacher's job to teach my kids and the school's job to have a challenging but appropriate curriculum. I am not a teacher. I am fine with picking up the slack on some non-essential things like cursive or books that don't make the reading list, but I work full time too. I want to ensure plenty of time for having fun with my kids. It is noble to take on the responsibility to help your kids where you feel the school may be failing them. But nothing wrong with wanting the kids to go to good schools to lessen that burden on you.

I am currently pondering the difference of how my kids will react to a "great shool" where they will most likely not be at the top of their class vs a "good school" where I think they will have a better chance at being at the top. Will they achieve better results with the higher competition, or will that discourage them and make them not try as hard. FWP.

I went to a great public school, and for me anyway, it made me want to strive to be closer to the top, even though there were many kids ranked above me. I thought it was great that there were many AP classes offered in the HS years too.

melody921 · July 2014

IndigoVader said:

I don't think anyone actually 'wants' their kids to go to a bad school, though.

No, but I do think some people don't care or don't know enough to worry about it. In our area, there are good, bad and average schools. The bad have a lot of things mentioned previously -- low scores, high dropout -- as well as the distractions of violence and kids not focused on learning. The average ones have less of all that, but often lack the array of advanced courses and extracurricular options that are available at a good school. FWIW, I'm talking good public school, not private, which is totally different IMO -- although I don't believe that paying for school automatically makes it better.

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

origamipoppy said:
Um. "Bad" schools typically still have good or strong curriculum. Rankings are a lot based on levels of learning, drop out rates (often outside of the schools control), and test scores from arbitrarily written tests. There are great and horrible teachers every where, even at good schools. Don't put the onus on the school if your kid does poorly though.

Of course there are always going to be a mix of good and bad teachers along with kids who will succeed or won't succeed for a variety of reasons inside and outside the school. There is no way to truly know that your kid is getting the best chance at education unless you are involved as a parent. The responsibility for the kid's success is not on the school.

I do consider it my responsibility as a parent to look into all of the factors that I can when choosing a school. It is not based solely on ranking or teachers or curriculum but a combination of factors that would make me comfortable.

Our school district is not good based on most accounts including parents, EI, and others. Maya will start preschool there in September because I have looked into their program and feel like it meets her needs for Pre3 and Pre4. If it didn't, I would keep her at her current school. I still want to move out of the district before she starts K or at least first grade because I think there are better opportunities in other districts.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

Another dog UO: If you have your dog be the ring bearer in your wedding, I cannot take you seriously. Especially if you're dressing her up in tulle and strapping a pillow to her back.

Cripes.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

IndigoVader said:

MarisaKathleen said:

Another dog UO: If you have your dog be the ring bearer in your wedding, I cannot take you seriously. Especially if you're dressing her up in tulle and strapping a pillow to her back.

Cripes.

Dammit, @MarisaKathleen! Just dammit!

I love my pets. They're part of my family. But there are some levels of weird I just can't succumb to. Signing my pets names on cards, referring to them as "Grandcats" to my Mother or having them play any part in my wedding.

Not to mention the awkward conversation..."Hey Friend...will you be one of my bridesmaids? You'll be walking my DOG down the aisle....."

27boo · July 2014

As homework, I expect my 4th graders to read for at least 20 min a night (this is actually shoolwide) and I assign a math review ws on Tuesdays. Then we have a few larger projects with an at-home piece throughout the year. They usually have about 3 wks to complete that, though. I have other supports/resources for the students that have no parental support for these projects while also trying to build accountability with the weekly homework.

I don't expect the parents to teach long division with partial quotients or multiplication with area models. Most of them have no idea what it is because they weren't taught them. But doing all of the things you say take up all of your time like dinner, baths/showers, bedtime, spending a minute talking to your child, I consider parental support. Without those things, kids struggle so much. That is support, even if you don't realize it.

And it's sad how many kids don't have it.

hmp1 · July 2014

melody921 said:

hmp1 said:

BeebopandBuddy said:

Maybe this is an FFFC and I'll get flamed, but here goes: I 100% recognize that parents bear the burden of making sure their kids are educated, doing their work, learning what they need to know. When I look at the time that I am able to spend with my kids during the week and what needs to get done during that time between work/school and bed, I feel like I really need to have a strong school curriculum to back me up. I pick the kids up, we need to get dinner done, bath, maybe an errand and, in the future, homework. I can assess what they're learning during that time, but I don't see a lot of time for teaching new skills and I don't see them being prepped to learn after being at school all day. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I usually am, but I am comforted by the stuff they learn at DC now that I never would have thought of or didn't know how to best teach them. I want that for when they start school too. Mobile

I agree. While I think it is important for me to make them do their homework and keep an open daily dialogue about what they are learning at school, it is the teacher's job to teach my kids and the school's job to have a challenging but appropriate curriculum. I am not a teacher. I am fine with picking up the slack on some non-essential things like cursive or books that don't make the reading list, but I work full time too. I want to ensure plenty of time for having fun with my kids. It is noble to take on the responsibility to help your kids where you feel the school may be failing them. But nothing wrong with wanting the kids to go to good schools to lessen that burden on you.

I am currently pondering the difference of how my kids will react to a "great shool" where they will most likely not be at the top of their class vs a "good school" where I think they will have a better chance at being at the top. Will they achieve better results with the higher competition, or will that discourage them and make them not try as hard. FWP.

I went to a great public school, and for me anyway, it made me want to strive to be closer to the top, even though there were many kids ranked above me. I thought it was great that there were many AP classes offered in the HS years too.

The difference is the "great school" is college prep type learning (I could really tell the difference between the kids that went to a college prep type school vs a traditional school when I went to college - I went to a traditional school). So the great school would include more projects - more outside the classroom time, emphasis on how to learn, public speaking, mentorship provided by members of the community, they issue a laptop to each student starting in 4th grade. It is a public school associated with a local university and you have to test and get accepted. The "good school" would have all the elements that you described. It has a high rating, lots of ranked sports teams, clubs, AP classes... It is just a different style of learning and the fact that the "great" school is not open enrollment. Or, there is private school that I would consider for lower grades for the smaller classroom aspect. But I'm more focused on what environment I think my kids' learning style will be a better fit and less on what other's view the "great" and "good" school.

Hyaline · July 2014

hmp1 said:

BeebopandBuddy said:

Maybe this is an FFFC and I'll get flamed, but here goes: I 100% recognize that parents bear the burden of making sure their kids are educated, doing their work, learning what they need to know. When I look at the time that I am able to spend with my kids during the week and what needs to get done during that time between work/school and bed, I feel like I really need to have a strong school curriculum to back me up. I pick the kids up, we need to get dinner done, bath, maybe an errand and, in the future, homework. I can assess what they're learning during that time, but I don't see a lot of time for teaching new skills and I don't see them being prepped to learn after being at school all day. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I usually am, but I am comforted by the stuff they learn at DC now that I never would have thought of or didn't know how to best teach them. I want that for when they start school too. Mobile

I agree. While I think it is important for me to make them do their homework and keep an open daily dialogue about what they are learning at school, it is the teacher's job to teach my kids and the school's job to have a challenging but appropriate curriculum. I am not a teacher. I am fine with picking up the slack on some non-essential things like cursive or books that don't make the reading list, but I work full time too. I want to ensure plenty of time for having fun with my kids. It is noble to take on the responsibility to help your kids where you feel the school may be failing them. But nothing wrong with wanting the kids to go to good schools to lessen that burden on you.

I am currently pondering the difference of how my kids will react to a "great shool" where they will most likely not be at the top of their class vs a "good school" where I think they will have a better chance at being at the top. Will they achieve better results with the higher competition, or will that discourage them and make them not try as hard. FWP.

I think we also make a huge mistake in thinking that supporting children's learning means teaching them on our own. Yes, we can supplement the skills and information they learn at school with extra enrichment at home (like--learned fractions at school? Let's practice by halving this recipe together...and then baking delicious cookies!). But I think it's much more important to kids' success that parents foster a home that values learning and education, and expects kids to work hard and reach for excellence.

Let's be honest--most schools have similar curricula. A parent supporting and valuing education can make a difference in what a student wants to get out of that curriculum and is willing to put in to get it.

Hyaline · July 2014

origamipoppy said:

While I think 2nd grade is too late, pre-reading skills are incredibly important and a LOT of kids do not get that at home. A lot of kids in lower income homes don't even have books, let alone age appropriate ones to practice pre reading skills.

I agree that pre-reading skills shouldn't be left out of the curriculum, but two years on it seems excessive. A full year seems excessive to me, personally. I also...this is probably flameful...don't like the idea of teaching to the lowest common skill level only. If half of the kids are ready to read and half aren't, yes, I recognize it's going to be a challenge, but you aren't teaching the kids who DO know their letters if you're only teaching letter sounds to the kids who don't. Don't hold some kids back by bringing other kids up. (Not easy, I know...educators didn't sign on for easy!)

JessicaxLynn87 · July 2014

origamipoppy said:

Um. "Bad" schools typically still have good or strong curriculum. Rankings are a lot based on levels of learning, drop out rates (often outside of the schools control), and test scores from arbitrarily written tests. There are great and horrible teachers every where, even at good schools. Don't put the onus on the school if your kid does poorly though.

I usually do not post on here (I lurk often and am on IG a lot more) but I felt compelled to chime in. I love everything about what you have said. I am a former Kindergarten teacher (will be teaching 3rd this year) at a low-performing Title 1 school. I've taught here from year one. Last year, only 30% students passed the end-of-grade tests. We did not meet our goal. Despite all of this, you will find some of the hardest working administration and teachers in our building. The pressure put on us is tremendous. Our scores do not reflect just how hard we work. If you looked at our scores, you might deem us as a "bad" school. We are often in the spotlight for those very same reasons. It makes me sad because we do so much good, yet it is very rarely recognized.

watercolor5 · July 2014

If our town wants the utility bill paid by 8/5, they should not be putting the bill in the mail today, because we won't find out how much we owe until tomorrow at the earliest, and that's too late to schedule a bill pay.

Everyone should use bill pay, and companies should encourage it because it makes good financial sense.

KKSBeans · July 2014

melody921 said:
I don't care how nice your dog is, he/she should not be left alone with your baby. People need to remember that animals could lash out at any time.

My dog is a certifiable, prozac dosed asshole. I love him, but do not leave them alone together.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

KKSBeans said:

I don't care how nice your dog is, he/she should not be left alone with your baby. People need to remember that animals could lash out at any time.
My dog is a certifiable, prozac dosed asshole. I love him, but do not leave them alone together.

After trying everything else under the sun, we started Mavis, our cat, on cat prozac. She's completely back to normal and hasn't peed on the floor in over 2 weeks. I am now a believer in cat drugs. She even goes by Nancy and snuggles up to her.

hmp1 · July 2014

watercolor5 said:

If our town wants the utility bill paid by 8/5, they should not be putting the bill in the mail today, because we won't find out how much we owe until tomorrow at the earliest, and that's too late to schedule a bill pay.

Everyone should use bill pay, and companies should encourage it because it makes good financial sense.

I used "Bill Pay" when we rented our house because it was a payment to a person and not a company with auto draft. My bank charges for Bill Pay so I don't think it makes financial sense, I was just lazy and didn't want to have to remember to write a check each month. I haven't used Bill Pay since we bought and use auto draft for everything we can.

watercolor5 · July 2014

hmp1 said:

watercolor5 said:

If our town wants the utility bill paid by 8/5, they should not be putting the bill in the mail today, because we won't find out how much we owe until tomorrow at the earliest, and that's too late to schedule a bill pay.

Everyone should use bill pay, and companies should encourage it because it makes good financial sense.

I used "Bill Pay" when we rented our house because it was a payment to a person and not a company with auto draft. My bank charges for Bill Pay so I don't think it makes financial sense, I was just lazy and didn't want to have to remember to write a check each month. I haven't used Bill Pay since we bought and use auto draft for everything we can.

Oh our bank doesn't charge for either bill pay or autopay. We save the money it would cost to mail a check or pay the fee the city charges to pay a bill on their online site, so for us using the bank's service is the least expensive way to pay. It also lets me not forget to pay my bills on time.

ETA: We use autopay for any payments that don't vary, and billpay for the ones that do. I don't think I'd know how to pay bills/balance my accounts without them anymore.

Eastie156 · August 2014

Pokedot said:

Eastie156 said:

Pokedot said:

I think they should still teach cursive writing because how do you desipher between writing your name and your signature? If no cursive is taught they'd be the same. For legal documents they need to be different.

BTW Hi ladies! I was on vacation!
Legal documents are now being signed electronically with an "e-signature". It's a signature that you click on, adopt and use. Ironically, it's still a cursive signature though
Not all legal documents. At least in my profession. It says "signature" which doesn't mean written it means signing your name. Our paperwork is legally binding but we don't have e-signatures.

Nope, not all are, but some are. Like our P&S agreement that we signed a few weeks back. Electronic. And the addendum to it? Electronic.

Bluebird2318 · August 2014

Not attempting to teach reading at all until 2nd grade sounds very odd to me. I was told I was "reading" when I was 2 (though I imagine this was just recognizing certain words and sounding out letters, not reading a book). I know that's earlier than the norm, but waiting until kids are 7 years old or so just seems late.

I remember when I was in school (this was early middle school I think, so maybe 2001-ish), we got tested for reading level. Every other week or so we'd have to read a book within our level range and then take a test on it (on the computer) when we finished to check for comprehension, etc. It was a lot of fun! Anyone else have this during school? Do schools still do this?

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