Um, are we doing this? UO!

melody921 · July 2014

How is this not already started, ladies?

melody921 · July 2014

Not sure if this is a new movement or what, but I am not on board with schools that don't teach reading in kindergarten. We have a local charter school that doesn't even begin reading until 2nd grade.

27boo · July 2014

melody921 said:
Not sure if this is a new movement or what, but I am not on board with schools that don't teach reading in kindergarten. We have a local charter school that doesn't even begin reading until 2nd grade.

I've heard that a few times. I'm not on board either. I haven't looked into the research behind it though, if there is any.

melody921 · July 2014

27boo said:

Not sure if this is a new movement or what, but I am not on board with schools that don't teach reading in kindergarten. We have a local charter school that doesn't even begin reading until 2nd grade.
I've heard that a few times. I'm not on board either. I haven't looked into the research behind it though, if there is any.

The few people I've talked to said it's about not rushing the kids or forcing them if they're not ready. I'm definitely not into rapping knuckles and making school a chore, but I learned to read before I turned 5, and it didn't do me any harm.

Kissty · July 2014

melody921 said:

27boo said:

Not sure if this is a new movement or what, but I am not on board with schools that don't teach reading in kindergarten. We have a local charter school that doesn't even begin reading until 2nd grade.
I've heard that a few times. I'm not on board either. I haven't looked into the research behind it though, if there is any. I remember learning in first grade. I knew some words before that but really dived in in first grade. I've just learned that schools are no longer teaching cursive handwriting?!? I was blown away by that. Yes this is a technology based word we now live in but I think cursive handwriting should still be taught.

The few people I've talked to said it's about not rushing the kids or forcing them if they're not ready. I'm definitely not into rapping knuckles and making school a chore, but I learned to read before I turned 5, and it didn't do me any harm.

Kissty · July 2014

My comment got all jumbled up. WTH TB?

kelbel527 · July 2014

I didn't even realize it was Thursday. I'm tired.

Why wouldn't they teach reading 2nd grade? DS1 is already working on recognizing letters to start spelling out words and he's only 4. It seems too late to wait until 2nd grade.

melody921 · July 2014

Kissty said:

My comment got all jumbled up. WTH TB?

Weird. I also think cursive should still be taught. WTH schools.

kelbel527 · July 2014

I don't use cursive handwriting. I actually don't think it's a big deal that we don't teach it anymore.

(This is coming from the person who failed penmenship in 3rd grade. I've been scarred ever since)

melody921 · July 2014

I don't care how nice your dog is, he/she should not be left alone with your baby. People need to remember that animals could lash out at any time.

Pokedot · July 2014

I think they should still teach cursive writing because how do you desipher between writing your name and your signature? If no cursive is taught they'd be the same. For legal documents they need to be different.

BTW Hi ladies! I was on vacation!

hmp1 · July 2014

kelbel527 said:

I didn't even realize it was Thursday. I'm tired.

Why wouldn't they teach reading 2nd grade? DS1 is already working on recognizing letters to start spelling out words and he's only 4. It seems too late to wait until 2nd grade.

This. James is super excited to learn to read. He has a bunch of sight words already and is really into trying to follow along while I read to him. I can't imagine schools not working on that until 7-8 years old when my 3 year old is already into it.

Eastie156 · July 2014

Pokedot said:

I think they should still teach cursive writing because how do you desipher between writing your name and your signature? If no cursive is taught they'd be the same. For legal documents they need to be different.

BTW Hi ladies! I was on vacation!

Legal documents are now being signed electronically with an "e-signature". It's a signature that you click on, adopt and use. Ironically, it's still a cursive signature though

hmp1 · July 2014

kelbel527 said:

I don't use cursive handwriting. I actually don't think it's a big deal that we don't teach it anymore.

(This is coming from the person who failed penmenship in 3rd grade. I've been scarred ever since)

I use a mix of cursive and print in my everyday writing. Like I never use the cursive z, b, m, n but I often use cursive e, i, a, o, p, r, s, t... the simple connecting ones basically. I do plan to teach my kids cursive because they should be able to at least read it.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

There's a lot more dog breeds that I don't like than I actually do.

I'm tired of the "blame the owners, not the breed" pitbull stuff I keep seeing all over FB. I don't think it makes me a bad person if I would rule out a dog solely in breed. I don't like Poodles or Doodles of any variety. I would never own one. I know they're really smart, I don't care. I think they're ugly dogs.

Pitbulls are known to be more aggressive. I wouldn't get one. I don't think they should be illegal, I just don't want to own one.

I'm also a firm believer that dogs should be on leashes all the time, unless they're in your own yard or at the dog park and leashes aren't necessary.

melody921 · July 2014

This probably speaks to my control freak ways, but I'm bothered by daycares that provide lunch/snacks and don't allow parents to bring their own food. We looked at a center yesterday like this. And even though I admit the menu overall looked pretty good, I like to have the option of packing lunches if it suddenly turns to a list of unhealthy choices.

melody921 · July 2014

hmp1 said:

kelbel527 said:

I don't use cursive handwriting. I actually don't think it's a big deal that we don't teach it anymore.

(This is coming from the person who failed penmenship in 3rd grade. I've been scarred ever since)

I use a mix of cursive and print in my everyday writing. Like I never use the cursive z, q, b, m, n but I often use cursive e, i, a, o, p, r, s, t... the simple connecting ones basically. I do plan to teach my kids cursive because they should be able to at least read it.

I do the same thing with the blend of cursive and regular letters.

hmp1 · July 2014

I never ever thought about owning a poodle until I saw Icedcoffee's. OMG, I love her dog.

I mean come on, who doesn't want to snuggle up with this dog? (pic from google, not IC's dog)

Kissty · July 2014

melody921 said:

This probably speaks to my control freak ways, but I'm bothered by daycares that provide lunch/snacks and don't allow parents to bring their own food. We looked at a center yesterday like this. And even though I admit the menu overall looked pretty good, I like to have the option of packing lunches if it suddenly turns to a list of unhealthy choices.

What happens if your child doesn't like the food provided that day? They can't let them go hungry. I think if you want to send a lunch/snack you should be able to.

melody921 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

There's a lot more dog breeds that I don't like than I actually do.

I'm tired of the "blame the owners, not the breed" pitbull stuff I keep seeing all over FB. I don't think it makes me a bad person if I would rule out a dog solely in breed. I don't like Poodles or Doodles of any variety. I would never own one. I know they're really smart, I don't care. I think they're ugly dogs.

Pitbulls are known to be more aggressive. I wouldn't get one. I don't think they should be illegal, I just don't want to own one.

I'm also a firm believer that dogs should be on leashes all the time, unless they're in your own yard or at the dog park and leashes aren't necessary.

WHAT? How is this Goldendoodle not adorable?

Eastie156 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

There's a lot more dog breeds that I don't like than I actually do.

I'm tired of the "blame the owners, not the breed" pitbull stuff I keep seeing all over FB. I don't think it makes me a bad person if I would rule out a dog solely in breed. I don't like Poodles or Doodles of any variety. I would never own one. I know they're really smart, I don't care. I think they're ugly dogs.

Pitbulls are known to be more aggressive. I wouldn't get one. I don't think they should be illegal, I just don't want to own one.

I'm also a firm believer that dogs should be on leashes all the time, unless they're in your own yard or at the dog park and leashes aren't necessary.

I agree with the "dogs should be on leashes, unless.."

There's nothing worse than going to the park (not the dog park) and a dog comes running at you. How am I supposed to know if the dog is friendly or not? This happened last weekend at a park near my IL's, except the dog ran at Ethan. It was a black lab, so I wasn't too worried that I couldn't grab him up quickly, but the owner had to chase after him to grab him. Put him on a damn leash !

AlinnJo · July 2014

I have mixed feelings about not teaching reading in Kindergarten. When kids enter K, they are at all at different sorts of levels. Some kids are already reading or are really interested in it. I think it is great to keep those kids going. However, some kids enter K knowing very little.I mean VERY little. It is extremely hard for a K teacher to get all of these kids to the same level at the end of the year. While I can understand not formally teaching reading to the whole class, I really support doing a more individualized instruction to meet each student's different needs. However, when you have 28 students in your class all on different levels, individualized instruction becomes nearly impossible. Sad.

hmp1 · July 2014

Kissty said:

melody921 said:

This probably speaks to my control freak ways, but I'm bothered by daycares that provide lunch/snacks and don't allow parents to bring their own food. We looked at a center yesterday like this. And even though I admit the menu overall looked pretty good, I like to have the option of packing lunches if it suddenly turns to a list of unhealthy choices.
What happens if your child doesn't like the food provided that day? They can't let them go hungry. I think if you want to send a lunch/snack you should be able to.

Meh, I don't make a second meal at my house if my kid doesn't like it. They change their mind daily on what they will and won't eat. They will not go hungry.

With the exception of severe food allergies, our daycare asks that you don't bring in food. 1) they serve a healthy diverse menu and don't want a kid eating animal crackers for snack while the other kids are eating fruit. 2) and along the same lines of 1, kids want what other kids have so everyone eating the same provides so ease on the teachers at an already hectic meal time.

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

I did not know it is Thursday either. This week needs to be over.

I would not let my kid attend a school where they don't start teaching reading until 2nd grade. Reading is one of the most important subjects on my opinion and should start early.

I have seen so many examples of teens and adults (mostly in my family) that cannot spell properly or use correct grammar recently that I have become completely paranoid about moving to a good school district.

Most of those that I have seen attended poorly ranked schools and have parents that did not strongly emphasize education. I am determined that my kids will not write in text speak and will know that "I'd say " should be spelled that way and not "Ide say". It hurt my face when I read it. Rant over.

Eastie156 · July 2014

My BMB has a thread up about how we want to post our birth stories. The thread is already so long and convoluded (sp?) that I don't want to read it. Why do we have decide how to post on a board something that's happening 8-12 weeks from now? This is way overboard, IMO. Just post your damn birth story and go about your day or decide later. But now? Too early and who cares.

MRoxy0628 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

There's a lot more dog breeds that I don't like than I actually do.

I'm tired of the "blame the owners, not the breed" pitbull stuff I keep seeing all over FB. I don't think it makes me a bad person if I would rule out a dog solely in breed. I don't like Poodles or Doodles of any variety. I would never own one. I know they're really smart, I don't care. I think they're ugly dogs.

Stuck: I can't believe you think Doodles are ugly. Mine would change your mind.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

Last night my DH was googling Doodles. They have St. Bernadoodles now. And Nufydoodles.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/awesome-poodle-mixes-that-you-didnt-know-existed#3r35dcr

Bernese Mtn. Dogs are one of my favorite dogs in the whole world and I do admit, yes, crossed with a Doodle, it is still adorable. That's the only Doodle I can get on board with. I just hate Poodle hair and how it looks. Reminds me too much of little old ladies and their perms.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

Another UO based on FB: I think by the time you're 31 you don't need to call your Mom "Mommy."

Especially when you're drinking beers with your Mommy at 10:13am. On a Thursday.

Whoo-hoo Summer in Wisconsin...

Kissty · July 2014

hmp1 said:

Kissty said:

melody921 said:

This probably speaks to my control freak ways, but I'm bothered by daycares that provide lunch/snacks and don't allow parents to bring their own food. We looked at a center yesterday like this. And even though I admit the menu overall looked pretty good, I like to have the option of packing lunches if it suddenly turns to a list of unhealthy choices.
What happens if your child doesn't like the food provided that day? They can't let them go hungry. I think if you want to send a lunch/snack you should be able to.
Meh, I don't make a second meal at my house if my kid doesn't like it. They change their mind daily on what they will and won't eat. They will not go hungry.

With the exception of severe food allergies, our daycare asks that you don't bring in food. 1) they serve a healthy diverse menu and don't want a kid eating animal crackers for snack while the other kids are eating fruit. 2) and along the same lines of 1, kids want what other kids have so everyone eating the same provides so ease on the teachers at an already hectic meal time.

I can understand the everyone have the same thing. There are just certain things my kid WILL NOT eat. Cream cheese and watermelon. So I avoid those. My kid isn't very picky but I know many who are. I also know several centers who give a list of acceptable snacks if you want to send your own so that isn't a big issue.

kelbel527 · July 2014

hmp1 said:

Kissty said:

melody921 said:

This probably speaks to my control freak ways, but I'm bothered by daycares that provide lunch/snacks and don't allow parents to bring their own food. We looked at a center yesterday like this. And even though I admit the menu overall looked pretty good, I like to have the option of packing lunches if it suddenly turns to a list of unhealthy choices.
What happens if your child doesn't like the food provided that day? They can't let them go hungry. I think if you want to send a lunch/snack you should be able to.

Meh, I don't make a second meal at my house if my kid doesn't like it. They change their mind daily on what they will and won't eat. They will not go hungry.

With the exception of severe food allergies, our daycare asks that you don't bring in food. 1) they serve a healthy diverse menu and don't want a kid eating animal crackers for snack while the other kids are eating fruit. 2) and along the same lines of 1, kids want what other kids have so everyone eating the same provides so ease on the teachers at an already hectic meal time.

Agree w/ HMP on this one. It helps that I feel our daycare's menu is well balanced nutritionally, but I wouldn't bring in something else because they didn't like the meal that day. They offer so much variety in each meal that if they don't like the main meal, they will eat more fruit/veggie/side dish. Then again - I think we can bring in our own food if we want to, we just don't need to.

My daycare is awesome. They even make special meals for Aedan w/ his dairy allergy. We bring his own milk and we bring fruit 1x/week to substitute instead of allowing him to have juice (which they serve about once a week).

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:
Another UO based on FB: I think by the time you're 31 you don't need to call your Mom "Mommy."

Especially when you're drinking beers with your Mommy at 10:13am. On a Thursday.

Whoo-hoo Summer in Wisconsin...

I think it's creepy when adults use kid words like "mommy", "daddy", "potty" outside the context of speaking to a child that is at the age where they still use them. Every now and then I see that mom and teen at the mall and the mom says something like "I'm just going to run to the potty and then we will go." I immediately feel creeped out by it.

MarisaKathleen · July 2014

I know a few Southern girls who still call their Dad's Daddy and for some reason that isn't as weird to me as the trashy girls I went to high school with who still call their Mom Mommy.

I just automatically think of Mommy Dearest.

AHHHH!!!!

Hyaline · July 2014

melody921 said:

Not sure if this is a new movement or what, but I am not on board with schools that don't teach reading in kindergarten. We have a local charter school that doesn't even begin reading until 2nd grade.

...if they're not teaching them reading fundamentals, what *are* they teaching them? I would have been so effing bored.

UO: If it's fluffy education-jargon "teamwork" "critical thinking" "things that sound good in theory but don't stand by themselves because you learn them *by doing and learning other things*" BS I call shenanigans.

MrsKipper · July 2014

I was just thinking about that scene the other day when I found a bag of wire hangers someone gave me. I can't stand wire hangers. Does that count as an UO?

Eastie156 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

Another UO based on FB: I think by the time you're 31 you don't need to call your Mom "Mommy."

Especially when you're drinking beers with your Mommy at 10:13am. On a Thursday.

Whoo-hoo Summer in Wisconsin...

H has a cousin that refers to her parents as "mummy & daddy". She's 36. It's annoying.

jenndub · July 2014

Eastie156 said:

My BMB has a thread up about how we want to post our birth stories. The thread is already so long and convoluded (sp?) that I don't want to read it. Why do we have decide how to post on a board something that's happening 8-12 weeks from now? This is way overboard, IMO. Just post your damn birth story and go about your day or decide later. But now? Too early and who cares.

I saw that there was a mucus plug post yesterday. I didn't open it.

UO - I don't always think that the parent knows what's best for their child. I have a close friend with a 10 year old that has severe behavioral issues. His parents don't punish him, ever. They threaten a lot but don't follow through. The school psychologist has met with them numerous times, most of their friends have made suggestions and they always come back with,"You guys don't know him like we do, we know what he needs.' He has no friends and it makes me feel really bad for him. I also can't stand him because he's a shithead, and I blame his parents for that.

Hyaline · July 2014

I jokingly refer to my parents as "Mother and Dad" a la 1950s movies and educational shorts.

melody921 · July 2014

hmp1 said:

Kissty said:

melody921 said:

This probably speaks to my control freak ways, but I'm bothered by daycares that provide lunch/snacks and don't allow parents to bring their own food. We looked at a center yesterday like this. And even though I admit the menu overall looked pretty good, I like to have the option of packing lunches if it suddenly turns to a list of unhealthy choices.
What happens if your child doesn't like the food provided that day? They can't let them go hungry. I think if you want to send a lunch/snack you should be able to.

Meh, I don't make a second meal at my house if my kid doesn't like it. They change their mind daily on what they will and won't eat. They will not go hungry.

With the exception of severe food allergies, our daycare asks that you don't bring in food. 1) they serve a healthy diverse menu and don't want a kid eating animal crackers for snack while the other kids are eating fruit. 2) and along the same lines of 1, kids want what other kids have so everyone eating the same provides so ease on the teachers at an already hectic meal time.

Yeah, my issue with it has less to do with if my kids like it and more to do with me wanting to ensure they eat balanced, healthy meals that are high in fruits and veggies and low in sugar and processed crap. The snack list at our current daycare started out OK and dissolved into rice krispie treats, chocolate pudding and other things that I consider treats, not everyday snack items. So I'm paranoid that I'll end up with the kids at a place where unhealthy food is being served every day.

BeebopandBuddy · July 2014

jenndub said:

Eastie156 said:

My BMB has a thread up about how we want to post our birth stories. The thread is already so long and convoluded (sp?) that I don't want to read it. Why do we have decide how to post on a board something that's happening 8-12 weeks from now? This is way overboard, IMO. Just post your damn birth story and go about your day or decide later. But now? Too early and who cares.

I saw that there was a mucus plug post yesterday. I didn't open it.

UO - I don't always think that the parent knows what's best for their child. I have a close friend with a 10 year old that has severe behavioral issues. His parents don't punish him, ever. They threaten a lot but don't follow through. The school psychologist has met with them numerous times, most of their friends have made suggestions and they always come back with,"You guys don't know him like we do, we know what he needs.' He has no friends and it makes me feel really bad for him. I also can't stand him because he's a shithead, and I blame his parents for that.

Thats so sad. I definitely agree with this. When I used to work with kids placed in group homes due to behavioral issues, I saw a few instances where the parents could have modified what they did and how they interacted with the child and the kid could have stayed in the home. The parents just would not listen. They would visit and say "I can't believe he does xyz with you, he would never do that for us!" That's because the issue isn't with him, it's with you.

melody921 · July 2014

MarisaKathleen said:

Another UO based on FB: I think by the time you're 31 you don't need to call your Mom "Mommy."

Especially when you're drinking beers with your Mommy at 10:13am. On a Thursday.

Whoo-hoo Summer in Wisconsin...

OMG, a woman I work with is only 26, but refers to her deceased mom as Mommy. Drives me bonkers.

Pokedot · July 2014

BeebopandBuddy said:

Another UO based on FB: I think by the time you're 31 you don't need to call your Mom "Mommy."

Especially when you're drinking beers with your Mommy at 10:13am. On a Thursday.

Whoo-hoo Summer in Wisconsin...
I think it's creepy when adults use kid words like "mommy", "daddy", "potty" outside the context of speaking to a child that is at the age where they still use them. Every now and then I see that mom and teen at the mall and the mom says something like "I'm just going to run to the potty and then we will go." I immediately feel creeped out by it.

One of the guys I work with does this in the office. "I have to use the potty." I bust his balls every time. It's so weird.

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