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Mom Arrested for Letting Her 9 yo DD Go to the Park Alone

https://reason.com/blog/2014/07/14/mom-jailed-because-she-let-her-9-year-ol

Mom Jailed Because She Let Her 9-Year-Old Daughter Play in the Park Unsupervised

Just in case you thought you could parent whatever way you see fit in 2014 America:

A North Augusta mother is in jail after witnesses say she left her nine-year-old daughter at a nearby park, for hours at a time.

Hours at a time? At a park? In the summer? Gosh! That certainly sounds normal and fun like a reason to throw a mom in jail—and place the child in state custody.

Here are the facts: Debra Harrell works at McDonald's in North Augusta, South Carolina. For most of the summer, her daughter had stayed there with her, playing on a laptop that Harrell had scrounged up the money to purchase. (McDonald's has free WiFi.) Sadly, the Harrell home was robbed and the laptop stolen, so the girl asked her mother if she could be dropped off at the park to play instead.

Harrell said yes. She gave her daughter a cell phone. The girl went to the park—a place so popular that at any given time there are about 40 kids frolicking—two days in a row. There were swings, a "splash pad," and shade. On her third day at the park, an adult asked the girl where her mother was. At work, the daughter replied.

The shocked adult called the cops. Authorities declared the girl "abandoned" and proceeded to arrest the mother.

Watch the news: It sounds like Debra Harrell committed a serious, unconscionable crime. The reporter looks ready to burst with contempt. But what are the facts? She let her daughter play at the park for several hours at a time—like we did as kids. She gave her a daughter a phone if she needed to call. Any "danger" was not only theoretical, it was exceedingly unlikely.

But, "What if a man would've come and snatched her?" said a woman interviewed by the TV station.

To which I must ask: In broad daylight? In a crowded park? Just because something happened on Law & Order doesn't mean it's happening all the time in real life. Make "what if?" thinking the basis for an arrest and the cops can collar anyone. "You let your son play in the front yard? What if a man drove up and kidnapped him?" "You let your daughter sleep in her own room? What if a man climbed through the window?" etc.

These fears pop into our brains so easily, they seem almost real. But they're not. Our crime rate today is back to what it was when gas was 29 cents a gallon, according to The Christian Science Monitor. It may feel like kids are in constant danger, but they are as safe (if not safer) than we were when our parents let us enjoy the summer outside, on our own, without fear of being arrested. 

But because some busybody thought she knew more about this girl's safety than the girl's own mother, a family has been separated. Harrell is in jail and the child is in the custody of the Department of Social Services. If only the girl had spent her whole summer sitting in McDonald's—surfing the internet and eating a Big Mac instead of playing outside and getting fresh air—this never would have happened.


TL;DR Mom leaves 9 year old girl alone at park to play- with a cell phone- while she goes to work at McDs. Park is within walking distance. Mom is arrested for child abandonment and girl is in custody of social services.  

I think this is ridiculous, I mean, kids here are expected to walk to and from school farther than this park was from mom's work.  

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  • I can see arrest/question at 3-5, but 9 years old? And she had a cell phone too--so it wasn't like she couldn't get in touch with mom/an adult/etc if she needed them.
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  • lildevil968lildevil968 member
    edited July 2014
    I let my DD go with her friends to the park alone. It's a little over a mile from our house. She's 10.

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    I was babysitting my three siblings for "hours on end" when I was nine. But my parents are also selfish dickwads so I may not be the best judge. I agree with @MotherOfPearl85 it might have been a better idea to look into free/low cost day camps from the beginning.


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  • How long was she at the park? If her mom was working an 8 hour shift I think that is way too long for a 9 year old to be unsupervised at a park. If the park was near the workplace and the kid was popping in to check in every hour or two though, eh.
    This is where I am. I am not ready to declare a great injustice here. What is the law in that jurisdiction? I also wouldn't call the concerned park goer a busybody like this article did.
  • funny this is brought up today, I almost posted something earlier about what age to leave children home alone. My BIL leaves his 12 year old home alone. SIL (not the wife, a wife of other brother) is LIVID and takes son with her when she goes some place. I think it's nice of her to offer to take him but for her to FORCE him to go/refuse to let him be home alone is not her call to make.
  • good call on arresting the mom for leaving her kid unattended at the park. Sure hope she's attended at home...without her mom.
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  • Smootchy said:
    funny this is brought up today, I almost posted something earlier about what age to leave children home alone. My BIL leaves his 12 year old home alone. SIL (not the wife, a wife of other brother) is LIVID and takes son with her when she goes some place. I think it's nice of her to offer to take him but for her to FORCE him to go/refuse to let him be home alone is not her call to make.
    Your SIL would hate being at my house. Through the school year this year, DD will be home by herself for 2 hours everyday. All of our neighbors know that she is going to be home alone during that time, and they will help keep an eye on the house. If your brother feels that his DS is mature enough to stay by himself for a few hours, then your SIL needs to mind her own business.

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  • Charges are appropriate.
    fredalina said:
    How long was she at the park? If her mom was working an 8 hour shift I think that is way too long for a 9 year old to be unsupervised at a park. If the park was near the workplace and the kid was popping in to check in every hour or two though, eh.
    This is where I am. I am not ready to declare a great injustice here. What is the law in that jurisdiction? I also wouldn't call the concerned park goer a busybody like this article did.
    Really? It's not a great injustice to arrest the mom and put the child in foster care?
    I am still waffling on how I feel about this entire case. Are charges appropriate, yeah possibly.
  • fredalina said:
    I just...don't understand what the arrest is gonig to accomplish? The girl will most certainly be afraid of strangers and police from here on out. Is the message that kids can't play alone- because if they will arrest a mom when the kid is 9, what is to stop them at 10? or 11?
    Or, as was my point in posting the scenarios, what is to stop them from arresting a mom for letting her child play in a park with mom present but not attending directly to the child (either for "good" reasons like a younger sibling or "bad" reasons like playing with her phone)? Or any scenario in between?
    Other than being entirely different situations all together? Diverted attention simply doesn't equal an entire shift. Can something happen during each, yes? But that's a little straw man.
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    I think there is some missing info here. I can't really form an opinion without it. I used to go play at the park for a few hours with friends when I was her age. But a) I went there with friends and stayed with the same friends, and b) it was for two or three hours. I would like to know how long her shifts were, and what time they were. If she has an 8 hour shift and it start at noon, the little girl was there at 8pm without supervision. Probably not too many other kids in the park at 8pm. KWIM? I do not think this is arrest worthy, in any event, but I will hold my outrage for now. This does demonstrate the need for low-cost/ free options available for working parents. Maybe the state should spend it's money on that, rather than prosecuting a woman that, at worst, showed poor judgement. But, even if all the facts showed that the mother made some really bad choices, that does not mean it is criminal.

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  • fredalina said:

    I just...don't understand what the arrest is gonig to accomplish? The girl will most certainly be afraid of strangers and police from here on out. Is the message that kids can't play alone- because if they will arrest a mom when the kid is 9, what is to stop them at 10? or 11?

    Or, as was my point in posting the scenarios, what is to stop them from arresting a mom for letting her child play in a park with mom present but not attending directly to the child (either for "good" reasons like a younger sibling or "bad" reasons like playing with her phone)? Or any scenario in between?

    Other than being entirely different situations all together? Diverted attention simply doesn't equal an entire shift. Can something happen during each, yes? But that's a little straw man.


    Do we know how long the shift was? Ignore if so

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    Also, I was left home alone during summer vacations since like the age of 7.... I shudder to think about that now (and it was probably not the greatest judgement for my Mom to do that -- she also left me alone in the car while she shopped pretty regularly), but at the time I felt it was no big deal. I wasn't a very adventurous kid though, I had no problem just staying locked up inside watching TV... I was too scared to wander too far... most I would do is maybe ride my bike around our apartment complex which was pretty well contained.

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  • Here's another thought...The woman in the park noticed the girl there 3 days straight correct? So, at the least it seems the girl is getting home everyday and being taken care of. I really feel some other steps could have been taken first. 
    I might have missed it but I don't think it specified that this same woman who called the cops witnessed the girl all 3 days...just that it was on the 3rd day the she was there that a concerned adult asked her and then called.

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  • rin89rin89 member
    Confession time- I've had to make that phone call before and I felt like a bitch.

    Long story short, my boss at a DC instructed me to call when we had some random non-local kids wandering around the playground (we were at a school). Apparently, mom had a doctors appointment and decided they would be better off playing than stuck in a waiting room. Nothing really came of it but I felt like the biggest bitch in the world. The kids were only there for a couple of hours, granted they had no water and it was summer, so I don't think it was the smartest choice. But if it was up to me I never would have called. The mom was so embarrassed and upset, and I felt like a giant twatwaffle. 


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  • MonkeybabeMonkeybabe member
    edited July 2014
    fredalina said:
    FWIW the original news article updated and said that the woman who called had seen the "black" girl before she left for work (and didn't see a parent) and she was still there when she got home from work, so it does seem like it wasn't a short shift. She also was left without food over lunchtime and either had to rely on a charity bus or walk 1.5 miles to the WalMart. I don't fault the caller as much as I did but I still think the cop reaction was out of line.
    How far was this park from McDonald's?
    Google maps shows the park as being directly behind the large building the mcdonalds is located in.

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  • wesleycrusherwesleycrusher member
    edited July 2014

    fredalina said:
    The news report says 1.5 miles. The map a pp posted looked like 1800 ft. I suspect it's in whether you cut or not and go behind the buildings, etc, as a 9 year old probably would.
    yes- 1.5 miles driving, but cutting through the park was about 1800 ft. 

    The news report I saw said she would walk to McDonald's for lunch.

    ETA: news reports keep saying 1.5 miles, probably to make the situation look worse?
  • Also, the closest public library is more than 1.5 miles down a large road from that McDonalds, so IMO, it would be more dangerous if she got bored and decided to walk to her mom's work from there.
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  • Also, the closest public library is more than 1.5 miles down a large road from that McDonalds, so IMO, it would be more dangerous if she got bored and decided to walk to her mom's work from there.
    Does she drive into work? Take a bus? So many factors we just don't know. I only brought up the library as a potential alternative, not a solution. That's what I'm saying the authorities should've done. Helped her with any and all possible alternatives.
    She drove- it said the daughter asked to be dropped off at the park before work instead of sitting inside, and mom agreed. 
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