November 2014 Moms

It's time for the circumcision thread!

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Re: It's time for the circumcision thread!

  • We have researched it extensively and decided to circ.

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  • MaelaraMaelara member
    edited July 2014
    JMPrice said:
    When I worked on the Peds floor we would actually encourage the parents to NOT go back with the baby's so that the baby does not have a negative image of mom/dad with a procedure. We brought the baby straight to parents as soon as we were finished so that mom/dad were the soothers and there were no associations with the parent and pain. And with the thousands of procedures my daughter with SN has had we've always followed this, and she calmed much much quicker.
    I disagree with this. We are there for her shots to soothe her and it's the same thing. Negative associations with pain? Ridiculous.

    Right. Lets go with what you THINK over someone that actually has experience with it. Makes ridiculous sense.
  • KUinCBUS said:
    I don't get the cleanliness argument. Wash what you see. I've washed both and it's not exactly rocket science. The circumcised kids look weird to me because they are scarred and the tip is all rough when it should be smooth. I will not being doing it because I honestly don't get it. None of the men in my family or DH's are and nothing has happened to them to make it seem necessary. I always thought it was just a religious thing. I'm sure it doesn't hurt them or anything but cutting off some of my baby's skin is just confusing to me. (Seems like a white American thing)
    It started as a religious thing. I'm pretty sure it stems from being I'm the desert and it was a cleanliness issue all that long ago.


    Also, I don't understand why you had to bring race into this. I'm white and if I was a boy my mom was very against circumcising. Even looking at the pictures on here you can plainly see we are all mixed races and some would some wouldn't circumcise. Bringing race into this is unnecessary.
    ----quote fail--- +1 @Maelara‌ Also, I'll just toss out there that Muslims are the single largest religious group to circumcise. So it's really not exclusively "a white American" thing. ETA: An interesting read: https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/islamethics/malecircumcision.shtml

    Thanks for that info! I would also like to add, to the poster that started this tree, I'm Canadian. So no, it's not a white American thing.
  • I don't get the cleanliness argument. Wash what you see. I've washed both and it's not exactly rocket science. The circumcised kids look weird to me because they are scarred and the tip is all rough when it should be smooth. I will not being doing it because I honestly don't get it. None of the men in my family or DH's are and nothing has happened to them to make it seem necessary. I always thought it was just a religious thing. I'm sure it doesn't hurt them or anything but cutting off some of my baby's skin is just confusing to me. (Seems like a white American thing)
    Seems like a very uninformed thing to say.
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  • We're Jewish, so it has never been a question for us. That said, I probably would not do it if we were not. For our older son we used a mohel who is also a doctor, and he was great. I hope he's still in business if this one turns out to be a boy.
  • MaelaraMaelara member
    edited July 2014
    abbyful said:
    About penile cancer, from the American Cancer Society: "Penile cancer is very rare in North America and Europe. Penile cancer occurs in less than 1 man in 100,000 and accounts for less than 1% of cancers in men in the United States." Compare that with 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer. We don't do double-mastectomies on newborn girls.

    While I totally agree with this and @lissydees research stating about circumcising having only a small or no health benefit, I can't get behind this comparison. The only way it would be simliar is if we were talking about cutting off entire organs for both sexes. Cutting off a piece of skin does not equal cutting off two breasts. If you were talking about cutting off the penis then I'd see that comparison.
  • lisaren said:
    Well then.

    I'm surprised so many folks are discussing this with family members.  I feel like this is one of those things that DH and I are to decide on our own.  I don't really want to talk about my kid's genitals with my parents or ILs. 

    In fact, DH and my mom had "words" last year about this.  My mother was discussing her BFF's daughter's new baby and made a comment abut how they weren't circumcising him and DH was like, "WHOA, please don't talk about our future kid's genitals with people..." 

    Anyway, that being said, we are team circ.
    Does this mean baby nacho is a boy :)

    !!!! What was the heart beat anyway? ;)
  • lissydee said:
    abbyful said:
    About penile cancer, from the American Cancer Society: "Penile cancer is very rare in North America and Europe. Penile cancer occurs in less than 1 man in 100,000 and accounts for less than 1% of cancers in men in the United States." Compare that with 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer. We don't do double-mastectomies on newborn girls.

    While I totally agree with this and @lissydees research stating about circumcising having only a small or no health benefit, I can't get behind this comparison. The only way it would be simliar is if we were talking about cutting off entire organs for both sexes. Cutting off a piece of skin does not equal cutting off two breasts. If you were talking about cutting off the penis then I'd see that comparison.
    --------- The cutting off the foreskin is the cutting off of a functional organ. It's has it's purpose, otherwise why else would all males be born with it?

    I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose. I'm saying it's part of an organ, not the entire organ itself. It's like saying we are are cutting off the nipple. It has a purpose and isn't the entire organ.
  • I would also like to add, we are team pro-circ because my opinion on it isn't strong enough to out weigh my husbands bad experience. It was a discussion we had before we even moved in together. He feels that strongly about it. If I was making the decision, we would not be circumcising any sons we have. I'm also in the camp of keeping them intact. They were born with it, why modify it.
  • lissydee said:
    Maelara said:
    lissydee said:
    abbyful said:
    About penile cancer, from the American Cancer Society: "Penile cancer is very rare in North America and Europe. Penile cancer occurs in less than 1 man in 100,000 and accounts for less than 1% of cancers in men in the United States." Compare that with 1 in 8 women will get breast cancer. We don't do double-mastectomies on newborn girls.

    While I totally agree with this and @lissydees research stating about circumcising having only a small or no health benefit, I can't get behind this comparison. The only way it would be simliar is if we were talking about cutting off entire organs for both sexes. Cutting off a piece of skin does not equal cutting off two breasts. If you were talking about cutting off the penis then I'd see that comparison.
    --------- The cutting off the foreskin is the cutting off of a functional organ. It's has it's purpose, otherwise why else would all males be born with it?

    I'm not saying it doesn't have a purpose. I'm saying it's part of an organ, not the entire organ itself. It's like saying we are are cutting off the nipple. It has a purpose and isn't the entire organ.
    it is its own organ.  The definition of organ is something in which has a specific, defined function.  The prepuce has just that.

    ETA: words.

    Because of the type of person I am, and I don't just go with my 'gut ' ;) I looked it up. You're right, medically it is considered it's own organ.
  • @lissydee I should have known not to argue with a nurse ;)
  • lisaren said:
    Well then.

    I'm surprised so many folks are discussing this with family members.  I feel like this is one of those things that DH and I are to decide on our own.  I don't really want to talk about my kid's genitals with my parents or ILs. 

    In fact, DH and my mom had "words" last year about this.  My mother was discussing her BFF's daughter's new baby and made a comment abut how they weren't circumcising him and DH was like, "WHOA, please don't talk about our future kid's genitals with people..." 

    Anyway, that being said, we are team circ.
    Does this mean baby nacho is a boy :)
    Hey I'm just saying what circumcision team we play for.  ;)  Could be for baby nacho or for baby nacho's future brother, baby taquito. 

    HR was "in the 140s" at my last appt. 

    Hmm very interesting...
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