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    lookame3639 said:
    I somewhat don't see the point of kick counts...at least not on a daily basis at x time laying down on your left side after you've eaten and had stuff to drink. I don't have time to lay down for an hour...on top of that i feel her All. The. Time! Her kicks hurt and cause braxton hicks. I do see the need for them and if i felt a decrease in her kicks I'd certainly lay down and make time...but everyday...idk
    This is the only time I was told I need to do them.  I really only do kick counts if it seems like I haven't felt LO move during the day much.
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    lookame3639 said:

    I somewhat don't see the point of kick counts...at least not on a daily basis at x time laying down on your left side after you've eaten and had stuff to drink. I don't have time to lay down for an hour...on top of that i feel her All. The. Time! Her kicks hurt and cause braxton hicks.

    I do see the need for them and if i felt a decrease in her kicks I'd certainly lay down and make time...but everyday...idk

    With my first I never did a kick count. My doc never even mentioned it. This time my (different) doc had me start, but I consistently reached the goal number of kicks within 10 minutes. After she saw that she basically said not to worry about it anymore, just to note if they seem to slow down. Maybe kick counts are more useful for people who have less active babies?
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    stoofewok said:
    Alright, I'm sure this will stir up some drama in here..

    Where I live, there has been a lot of controversy about teachers' pay, benefits, union, etc. My UO is that I'm not sympathetic to the cause. I don't feel that they're underpaid and they knew what they were getting into when they went to school to be teachers. The biggest complaints I hear from teachers about their jobs can be found in many other jobs and I don't think they deserve their own category of pity for the career they chose.

    With all of that being said, I think being a teacher is great and that good teachers should be appreciated. I fully intend on showing my appreciation for our kids' good teachers in the future...a little goes a long way and the good ones should know how much of a difference they make. I'm in no way tearing down the choice of teaching as a career choice, but I don't want to hear the endless complaints about it.

    very much agree. I am wondering if we live in the same place. I could go into a whole thing about public-sector unions but I will refrain because I really don't want to make this all political. Let me just say that my husband has a union job, and I am pro-private sector unions (although there are still definitely draw-backs, there are people working at his job that should have been fired a looong time ago but cant be) but public-sector unions, in particular the teacher's union in my state, is something that can grow out of control and needs to be watched and scrutinized.


    Nothing against teachers at all! We all have complaints about our jobs and sometimes benefits but I guess my true UO is that at this point in our society I feel like people should be thankful that their job offers benefits. My hubby knows a ton of people who bitch about their benefits at his work because they aren't the same as the job they had in the 80s and 90s. Times have changed. I am very appreciative of hubby's health insurance, 401K, and the fact that he gets any sort of pension at all.

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    trawas01 said:
    Not all babies are cute. If you show me a picture of your new baby I will tell you its cute regardless, on the inside I may be thinking omg, that is one unattractive kid.
    I am scared that my baby is going to fall into that category! I think a small percentage of them are cute.

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    trawas01 said:
    Not all babies are cute. If you show me a picture of your new baby I will tell you its cute regardless, on the inside I may be thinking omg, that is one unattractive kid.
    I agree.  I think DS got a lot of pity "how cute" comments, I didn't care.  I loved hearing other people tell me how cute he was regardless of whether they meant it or not.
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    stoofewok said:
    @kaitm22 We do live in the same place. I even have a teacher friend who completely agrees with our arguments. However, my MIL is a teacher and went to all of the protests and all of that and I can't stand hearing about the bitching about it. 

    H is on her side too, but he knows now to broach the subject with me. I'm fairly certain my MIL gets it too because I never say anything when she brings up her complaints and I usually walk out of the room.

    @navyandgray I agree wholeheartedly. NO ONE'S job should be secure just because they put in due time...their place there should continue to be evaluated on an ongoing basis. I swear that the tenure crap are why I had so many shitty teachers throughout my education.

    I'm a teacher (this is my second career so I may have a bit of a differing point of view then those who went into education) and I don't agree with the unions either. I refused to join when I worked in the public school system for a year. I realized that it would only be screwing myself over, but I just in general don't agree with a lot of the unions. I only work in a private school and high ed now, so it's a nonissue.
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    chase16 said:

    Krispy kreme donuts are disgusting. Why are they wet?? Gross.

    You need to go to a Krispy kreme store whenthey have hot fresh doughnuts! Omg! Or heat them up in the microwave for 10 secs
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    chase16 said:
    Krispy kreme donuts are disgusting. Why are they wet?? Gross.
    I agree - never liked them!  Plus around here they deliver to a lot of the gas stations which is disappointing when you want to sneak a donut but find out it's Krispy Kreme
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    DS was a pretty baby- LO ithink Iis gunna be an ugly baby. FI thinks all babies are fat, ugly and lazy anyway lol
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    kaitm22 said:
    stoofewok said:
    Alright, I'm sure this will stir up some drama in here..

    Where I live, there has been a lot of controversy about teachers' pay, benefits, union, etc. My UO is that I'm not sympathetic to the cause. I don't feel that they're underpaid and they knew what they were getting into when they went to school to be teachers. The biggest complaints I hear from teachers about their jobs can be found in many other jobs and I don't think they deserve their own category of pity for the career they chose.

    With all of that being said, I think being a teacher is great and that good teachers should be appreciated. I fully intend on showing my appreciation for our kids' good teachers in the future...a little goes a long way and the good ones should know how much of a difference they make. I'm in no way tearing down the choice of teaching as a career choice, but I don't want to hear the endless complaints about it.

    very much agree. I am wondering if we live in the same place. I could go into a whole thing about public-sector unions but I will refrain because I really don't want to make this all political. Let me just say that my husband has a union job, and I am pro-private sector unions (although there are still definitely draw-backs, there are people working at his job that should have been fired a looong time ago but cant be) but public-sector unions, in particular the teacher's union in my state, is something that can grow out of control and needs to be watched and scrutinized.


    Nothing against teachers at all! We all have complaints about our jobs and sometimes benefits but I guess my true UO is that at this point in our society I feel like people should be thankful that their job offers benefits. My hubby knows a ton of people who bitch about their benefits at his work because they aren't the same as the job they had in the 80s and 90s. Times have changed. I am very appreciative of hubby's health insurance, 401K, and the fact that he gets any sort of pension at all.


    So you stand with Scott Walker? ;)

    To be clear, I'm not arguing for or against this.

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    marathonmommy82 said:
    I don't know if this is an OU or not, but I was searching online for something to deliver to a hospital for a friend, and I came across a Pinterest board with all these ideas for L&D nurses --- special baskets with candy, cutesy poems and sayings, etc. My L&D nurses last time were AWESOME and I appreciated/ appreciate all that they do, but ain't nobody got time for that.
    When I hear about this I always think, "what if everyone did that?"  Those nurses would be eating candy and other sweets all day long!  What would they do with all that food?

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    trawas01 said:

    Not all babies are cute. If you show me a picture of your new baby I will tell you its cute regardless, on the inside I may be thinking omg, that is one unattractive kid.

    Whenever I see a baby that don't think is cute I just say "look how sweet she/he is". Of course this is for people I know irl.
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    I feel that unions are an outdated model, before we had the EEOC, OSHA, FSLA and various other laws put in place to protect workers.  I think unions did their job but have turned into something negative.  While they protect workers, they also allow workers to get raises and promotions based on tenure, which is not the best way to judge your workforce.  It also makes it difficult to fire poor workers, which isn't good for business.  
    I'm not a fan of the argument that teachers (or whoever) didn't get a cost of living increase, because guess what, that's not a standard thing in the private sector.  Year over year in private sector jobs employees are not getting any raises and their insurance premiums are going up, cost of living is going up, and their income in staying the same.  I don't have an expectation of a cost of living increase every year just because my butt was in my chair for a year.  In private sector you have to earn your increase.
    I do agree that how we judge teachers needs to be improved.  If we focus too much on test scores, that does a disservice to our students.  But granting someone tenure after 3 years and having guaranteed raises year after year is not the solution.  
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    I work in the school system in California, and I just want to chime in on the teacher debate to share that our benefits suck. The monthly cost of health insurance for my family at my last district was $850,and at my current district it is slightly better at $700, plus co-pays and deductible and all that. On top of the ongoing monthly fee, having this baby is going to cost me $2000 out of pocket.

    Also, at my last district general education teachers were given $200 per year to spend on school supplies. The average class size was 35 students and we were in school for about 10 months. That means teachers were allotted about 57¢ per student per month, which is simply not enough to get any quality supplies. I'm not sure I know a single teacher who doesn't spend money out of their own pocket to supplement their classroom.

    I agree that teacher's unions have a lot of problems, and I know quite a few spoiled entitled teachers who focus entirely on what they think they should have instead of the needs of the students, but it's not a perfectly black and white situation. And, here at least, things like benefits do not compensate for wage decreases and furlough days, both of which we've had in the past few years.
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    loislayn said:
    I took a box of donuts to L&D when I went. They loved it.
    Were they Krispy Kreme?   

    :)  I live in the city where Krispy Kreme was invented, so I'm perhaps more partial to them that others, but I find them to be oh, so amazing! Especially when Hot & Now!

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    cath5587 said:

    KittyMisha said:

    I work in the school system in California, and I just want to chime in on the teacher debate to share that our benefits suck. The monthly cost of health insurance for my family at my last district was $850,and at my current district it is slightly better at $700, plus co-pays and deductible and all that. On top of the ongoing monthly fee, having this baby is going to cost me $2000 out of pocket.

    Also, at my last district general education teachers were given $200 per year to spend on school supplies. The average class size was 35 students and we were in school for about 10 months. That means teachers were allotted about 57¢ per student per month, which is simply not enough to get any quality supplies. I'm not sure I know a single teacher who doesn't spend money out of their own pocket to supplement their classroom.

    I agree that teacher's unions have a lot of problems, and I know quite a few spoiled entitled teachers who focus entirely on what they think they should have instead of the needs of the students, but it's not a perfectly black and white situation. And, here at least, things like benefits do not compensate for wage decreases and furlough days, both of which we've had in the past few years.

    Most people's health insurance cost has increased and/or sucks at this point. It doesn't matter if you're a teacher or not. My husband and I each have to have separate policies because my company will no longer cover spouses who work and me being added to his is too expensive.
    I didn't mean to imply that it's worse for teachers. It's just that someone said earlier that in their state teachers got excellent benefits, and I wanted to share that this is not the case everywhere. I think there's a general impression that teachers get a lot of perks other than their salary (I know I thought that before I got hired by a school) but that is no longer the case in many places.

    Aside from the time off, of course. That is and remains a fantastic benefit of being a teacher.

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    MollyHooper said:
    I like giving treats to the L&D nurses. Usually we just bring donuts.

    I don't think Ryan Gosling is that attractive.

    I think a box of donuts is a nice gesture !

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    After I was home a week or so, I baked something for the L&D staff & brought it in. I didn't think to do this beforehand, but they were so wonderful, I wanted to go back & bring them something.

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    KittyMisha said:

    I work in the school system in California, and I just want to chime in on the teacher debate to share that our benefits suck. The monthly cost of health insurance for my family at my last district was $850,and at my current district it is slightly better at $700, plus co-pays and deductible and all that. On top of the ongoing monthly fee, having this baby is going to cost me $2000 out of pocket.

    I work in healthcare and my deductible is $1500 and my max out of pocket is $6000 per year, NOT including my deductible. Plus, I get no paid maternity leave and my company doesn't offer STD, so I will be taking 6-8 weeks of completely UNPAID leave plus the medical bills. I would take your $2000 out of pocket any day.
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    navyandgray said:
    stoofewok said:
    Alright, I'm sure this will stir up some drama in here..

    Where I live, there has been a lot of controversy about teachers' pay, benefits, union, etc. My UO is that I'm not sympathetic to the cause. I don't feel that they're underpaid and they knew what they were getting into when they went to school to be teachers. The biggest complaints I hear from teachers about their jobs can be found in many other jobs and I don't think they deserve their own category of pity for the career they chose.

    With all of that being said, I think being a teacher is great and that good teachers should be appreciated. I fully intend on showing my appreciation for our kids' good teachers in the future...a little goes a long way and the good ones should know how much of a difference they make. I'm in no way tearing down the choice of teaching as a career choice, but I don't want to hear the endless complaints about it.

    I live in the suburbs north of NYC and we have some of the highest paid teachers in the country. Average pay for tenured teachers hovers around $100,000. Honestly our teachers complain a lot less (as they should) since they are compensated so well. However, teacher unions are scary, no one should be guaranteed a job just because after 3 years you were evaluated and awarded tenure. The evaluations should be ongoing and teachers terminated if they aren't performing well or if they do something inappropriate. I'm tired of hearing about teachers collecting full pay while they hang out in "rubber rooms" all day because they were pulled from the classroom for inappropriate behavior or poor performance.
    This 100%.  I grew up in upstate NY & was definitely in a well to-do area.  I had a few teachers in high school that were making at or around 100k in the mid-90's.  Yes, they were exceptional teachers, and yes, I lived in a great school district, but 100k for working 9-10 months a year is pretty damn good. 

    Also, I know not all states are like this, but NY state gives (or gave) their teachers FULL pay & benefits after they retire.  This means that my high school teachers who were making 100k got to retire at around 55 (30 years of service) & they are bringing in 100k a year plus benefits until they die. 
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    @chase16, yes I do stand with Scott Walker =P

    Dont want to start a politcal thing with any of you ladies, and I dont agree with everything he has done, but I do sort of love that guy.

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    Familyhugs922 said:
    After I was home a week or so, I baked something for the L&D staff & brought it in. I didn't think to do this beforehand, but they were so wonderful, I wanted to go back & bring them something.
    I haven't done it for L&D but there have been several times I have sent nurses a gift afterwards for exceptional service - one time was a cookie basket and another was one of those fancy fruit basket.  Not to say this is normal or expected but both time the nurses were truly wonderful and I felt they deserved the gift.  I even did something similar for the police officer that sat with my mom until I could get there when my dad died.
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    There is always a big push for baby water safety this time of year, which is great - I'm all for keeping everyone safe around water. Part of me worries that all these "teach your baby to float" and toddler swim lessons gives a false sense of security.
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    Raclla said:
    The birthday cake Oreos are not good. Trust me. I just ate about half a dozen to make sure.
    Did you try the ones with chocolate cookies or vanilla?  I ate a box of the chocolate birthday cake ones in about 3 days and hated the vanilla ones but DH preferred those so they also were polished off in about 3 days.
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    @loislayn‌ the kids I work with are a small percentage of the student demographic, but one 2nd grader did have a possible diagnosis of PTSD (was molested by her father). Student's psych reports it's still unclear if the daily violent episodes are due to PTSD or an underlying disability. I hate it when teachers put more effort into complaining than improving their craft, and I also hate it when others regurgitate overgeneralized judgements about the teaching profession without understanding the complexities of individual state policies, school demographics, and teaching positions.
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    dogperson11 said:
    There is always a big push for baby water safety this time of year, which is great - I'm all for keeping everyone safe around water. Part of me worries that all these "teach your baby to float" and toddler swim lessons gives a false sense of security.
    C has had swim lessons, I still watch her like a hawk around water. If we had a pool, it would be gated. 

    I get what you are saying though. 
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    MollyHooper said:

    I like giving treats to the L&D nurses. Usually we just bring donuts.

    I don't think Ryan Gosling is that attractive.


    Sorry I disagree. I could eat him up, have had a crush on him since The Mickey Mouse Club & Breaker High!

    Now Channing Tatum... I just can't with him. Zero attraction there.

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    My UO used to be that I just didn't get why people jumped all over newbies and their questions....

    I officially get it now and take back all the eye rolling I used to do reading posts where regs were annoyed!
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    H has fallen in love with the Reese's oreos. I saw them while grocery shopping the other day and showed them to him, of course he had to buy them to try them. I haven't tried them yet and don't really plan it. I like Reese's but in the original form and cold. 
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    bobyn1113 said:

    UO: I really enjoy assembling furniture.

    Omg.. I hate it so much. I put together a shelf 3 years ago and swore never again.
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