So I have a question that I'm not sure is addressed through anything yet, but is directly related.
If, as a Christian company, Hobby Lobby doesn't believe in same sex marriage, what happens to spouses of their employees in states where same sex marriage is legal? They have one store that I know of in MA. Does that mean that they can preclude a same sex spouse from being on their husband/wife's insurance because they're a private company and they don't want to pay for that? Chik-Fila has several locations in MA and the Cathys are well known for not supporting same sex marriage, can they now do this?
I'm seriously asking if anyone has seen anything relating to this, because it could get sticky mighty quickly.
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I just see it differently from most of you. That's as far as I am going with this. That is the beauty of the freedoms we enjoy that we are able to express opinions on both sides of an issue, popular and non-popular. I really do like all of you and I can see your side, I just respectfully disagree.
There are a whole ton of what-ifs here. I get that. Very few things are completely black and white. I don't believe this ruling applies to discrimination of people for the simple fact that the constitution trumps a Supreme Court ruling in the whole scheme of things. Since the constitution applies to everyone (gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, man, woman...), even if it did make it to the SCOTUS, discrimination should not be ruled on the same way as medications. It's just not the same.
I just think maybe you should learn more about your system of government and laws.
I know quite a bit about it, but disagreeing with an opinion, even the popular one, doesn't make me wrong. To be honest, since the SCOTUS is the one I am agreeing with, that technically makes me right within the laws of the US.
Dude. You don't know much about it if you can't think ahead to the impact that this is going to have. It's not about 4/20 birth control methods. It's about defining a company as a person. The implications are astounding, and if you can't see that, you need to learn more about how it all works and what this can and will mean for actual people.
I do completely agree with you there. It is not about birth control. Never once have I said it was. It is about the rights of a privately owned company and how much control government has over it. We are not talking about a publicly traded company. It is a private family business. A large one, yes, but still family owned. It should have never been a Supreme Court case because the benefits offered to employees by a private company should be decided by the owners of that company.
No... It's not about the control a government has over a company that is the issue here.... it's about the control a company can have over it's employees.
I mean this sincerely, but you have shown you don't actually understand how the Constitution/SCOTUS function and I am sad that you, and millions of people truly, didn't get properly educated but please take time to educate yourself on how our government functions.
And regarding the notion of "government controlling private business" well, they do that all.the.time. It's actually quite necessary for a capitalistic economy to have rules/regulations to ensure an even playing field for all companies and consumers.
But again, corporations should not be able to exercise religious beliefs because they are a fictional legal creation, not people.
Re: Current events- hobby lobby SCOTUS decision
So I have a question that I'm not sure is addressed through anything yet, but is directly related.
If, as a Christian company, Hobby Lobby doesn't believe in same sex marriage, what happens to spouses of their employees in states where same sex marriage is legal? They have one store that I know of in MA. Does that mean that they can preclude a same sex spouse from being on their husband/wife's insurance because they're a private company and they don't want to pay for that? Chik-Fila has several locations in MA and the Cathys are well known for not supporting same sex marriage, can they now do this?
I'm seriously asking if anyone has seen anything relating to this, because it could get sticky mighty quickly.
TTC #1 since 9/2012
BFP #1 2/16/13, EDD 10/13/13, CP 2/21/13
BFP #2 6/2/13
Baby J-Bug 2/8/14 My Wedding Bio from back in the day
No... It's not about the control a government has over a company that is the issue here.... it's about the control a company can have over it's employees.
I mean this sincerely, but you have shown you don't actually understand how the Constitution/SCOTUS function and I am sad that you, and millions of people truly, didn't get properly educated but please take time to educate yourself on how our government functions.
And regarding the notion of "government controlling private business" well, they do that all.the.time. It's actually quite necessary for a capitalistic economy to have rules/regulations to ensure an even playing field for all companies and consumers.
But again, corporations should not be able to exercise religious beliefs because they are a fictional legal creation, not people.