genetic testing

FlowerPower16 · June 2014

OmSweetOm said:

I thought about doing some of these because I have no idea any family history for my bio dad and his family. I won't do anything that could harm the baby though. I won't care if baby has a condition or not, I will love him or her just as much.
As someone who had to get something done- I think it's important to realize it's 100000% not about not loving your child if something were "wrong". There are some conditions is which the child can be born in agony- and only live a very short time. There are also women who feel in order to prepare they need to know as soon as possible. I'm not sure why these tests seem to be so commonly associated with termination or not "wanting" a child with an issue.

This! Of course you would love your child, they are your baby. That's not at all the question. There are defects out there that are incompatible with life. I'm sorry, but it gets me all riled up when people start saying "I will love my child no matter what". It doesn't go over well with those of us who have been in a situation where we had to choose.

michelle142 · June 2014

We skipped them last time around and will again this time. My OB the first time told us that unless there was a history that lead to a potential risk, it wasn't necessary - any issues would be spotted at the 20 week u/s.

junebugjam · June 2014

FlowerPower16 said:

OmSweetOm said:

camilu87 said:
I thought about doing some of these because I have no idea any family history for my bio dad and his family. I won't do anything that could harm the baby though. I won't care if baby has a condition or not, I will love him or her just as much.
As someone who had to get something done- I think it's important to realize it's 100000% not about not loving your child if something were "wrong". There are some conditions is which the child can be born in agony- and only live a very short time. There are also women who feel in order to prepare they need to know as soon as possible. I'm not sure why these tests seem to be so commonly associated with termination or not "wanting" a child with an issue.

This! Of course you would love your child, they are your baby. That's not at all the question. There are defects out there that are incompatible with life. I'm sorry, but it gets me all riled up when people start saying "I will love my child no matter what". It doesn't go over well with those of us who have been in a situation where we had to choose.

@FlowerPower16‌ I think you are my bumpie soulmate. You took the words right out of my mouth!

FlowerPower16 · June 2014

jessicamathew said:

OmSweetOm said:

I thought about doing some of these because I have no idea any family history for my bio dad and his family. I won't do anything that could harm the baby though. I won't care if baby has a condition or not, I will love him or her just as much.
As someone who had to get something done- I think it's important to realize it's 100000% not about not loving your child if something were "wrong". There are some conditions is which the child can be born in agony- and only live a very short time. There are also women who feel in order to prepare they need to know as soon as possible. I'm not sure why these tests seem to be so commonly associated with termination or not "wanting" a child with an issue.

This! Of course you would love your child, they are your baby. That's not at all the question. There are defects out there that are incompatible with life. I'm sorry, but it gets me all riled up when people start saying "I will love my child no matter what". It doesn't go over well with those of us who have been in a situation where we had to choose.
@FlowerPower16‌ I think you are my bumpie soulmate. You took the words right out of my mouth!

I've got your back!

MaddScientist · June 2014

FlowerPower16 said: jessicamathew said: OmSweetOm said: I thought about doing some of these because I have no idea any family history for my bio dad and his family. I won't do anything that could harm the baby though. I won't care if baby has a condition or not, I will love him or her just as much. As someone who had to get something done- I think it's important to realize it's 100000% not about not loving your child if something were "wrong". There are some conditions is which the child can be born in agony- and only live a very short time. There are also women who feel in order to prepare they need to know as soon as possible. I'm not sure why these tests seem to be so commonly associated with termination or not "wanting" a child with an issue. This! Of course you would love your child, they are your baby. That's not at all the question. There are defects out there that are incompatible with life. I'm sorry, but it gets me all riled up when people start saying "I will love my child no matter what". It doesn't go over well with those of us who have been in a situation where we had to choose.
@FlowerPower16‌ I think you are my bumpie soulmate. You took the words right out of my mouth! I've got your back!

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I want to play devils advocate and say who the eff cares why you are getting genetic testing. Maybe I want to get genetic testing because I want to know of any genetic abnormalities in case I want to terminate. That doesn't mean I don't love it. I would need to know early. And deciding to terminate based on my situation and the genetic abnormalities of the fetus is a personal decision that I should be able to make without judging like 'even if it does have a condition I would love it anyway'. Those decisions are hard enough.

Mommy2CB · June 2014

Irishcurls said:

Mommy2CB said:

Our first pregnancy ended in loss and was confirmed at a hospital via ultrasound. They saw I had an issue with my uterus (septate) at the time so they sent us to a fertilty specialist to be confirmed and to basically go on from there. The speciapist did an evaluation cycle with us which included the procedure where they insert dye and take an X-ray to see the shape of your uterus, bloodwork, ultrasounds, saliva testing of both of us, and sperm tests. Eventually I would have the surgery to remove the septum from my uterus and we went on to have 2 healthy children.

I am not sure how it works when you are all ready pregnant, I am assuming a saliva test?

You're describing an HSG, typically done as part of a normal infertility workup. It cannot be done while pregnant. Genetic testing involves blood or amniotic fluid/cells to check the baby's chromosomes directly.

Ahh that's it. It's been a few years, couldn't remember the name.

bhjones1980 · June 2014

CrazyCornball said:

bhjones1980 said:

2013sarabelleATX said:

crcostelWed158933 said:

Had the harmony last time around - will probably do mat21 this time. Doc prefers the dna test over cvs

(Pardon the thread-jack.) Was a portion of the Harmony covered by insurance? Do you know if the Mat21 is?

My doctor said Maternti21 is covered for AMA patients (YAY ME!)

Ill be doing that

I need to chat with my doctor about whatever genetic test (Mat21/Harmony/etc) my office uses for AMA patients because I'm one too. YAY!

YAY for saggy old utes!!!!

stellasoo · June 2014

It's interesting to read some of these responses to see why others will/won't do testing. We did some genetic screening as part of our fertility testing but we haven't decided what to do as far as the prenatal testing. If something was wrong, I don't know whether we would terminate the pregnancy or not (how can you really know before you're in the situation?) but it would be nice to know ahead of time if there's something wrong that we could plan for. With that being said, I sincerely wonder how I would cope during pregnancy if I found out there was something wrong. I am a huge worrier and I think anxiety and depression would set in big time. I feel like if I found out after birth, I wouldn't have time to think. I'd just be in the moment and could make choices as needed.

Whatever we decide, I'm so glad there are less invasive tests out there now.

mylazypony · June 2014

I'm going to request a panorama blood test when I go in next.

caraleeb · June 2014

Im doing the two blood draws (quad screen i guess?) free in canada so why not?

Also because im *cough* a bit older my dr suggetsed it but i aint that old!

XSweetieO0O · June 2014

@mbarton77 I was just going to ask if anyone is doing Panorama. A coworker and his wife did it and he said it cost them about $145 out of pocket and they got their results back about a week and a half later. It seems to check for everything, or from my limited knowledge that's what I'm thinking right now. I really would like to get the panorama done.

Irishcurls · June 2014

I just geeked out on Panorama's website. There's a pretty good white paper explaining how their test is different than the others. :-B

MaddScientist · June 2014

Irishcurls said:

I just geeked out on Panorama's website. There's a pretty good white paper explaining how their test is different than the others. :-B

recap for us lazies?

wintersong139 · June 2014

mbarton77 said:

I'm going to request a panorama blood test when I go in next.

At first I read that you were getting a paranormal blood test. I was like...whaaaaaat?

mylazypony · June 2014

@XSweetieO0O‌ my bestie suggested the panorama test. She paid out of pocket for it and said it was really safe. Not only does it test for chromosomal issues but it also gives you the baby's sex!!

LilTiger15 · June 2014

not doing anything additional. No matter what, I wouldn't terminate, so I don't see the point in the testing. A lot of the tests aren't 100% anyway, so it can make you worry for nothing. I want to enjoy the pregnancy as much as possible

OmSweetOm · June 2014

LilTiger15 said:
not doing anything additional. No matter what, I wouldn't terminate, so I don't see the point in the testing. A lot of the tests aren't 100% anyway, so it can make you worry for nothing. I want to enjoy the pregnancy as much as possible

Come on. Seriously?

Have you ever been in a position where you had been presented a legitimate concern regarding the health of your child by your doctor? Please. As I stated before- getting this test has NOTHING to do with terminating. Suggesting so, is offensive.

junebugjam · June 2014

LilTiger15 said:
not doing anything additional. No matter what, I wouldn't terminate, so I don't see the point in the testing. A lot of the tests aren't 100% anyway, so it can make you worry for nothing. I want to enjoy the pregnancy as much as possible

This thread is not about terminating, but I wish people would stop throwing around "I would never terminate." It's such a holier than thou statement. You don't know what you would do until you're in it. And it's a situation I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

HerHighness · June 2014

jessicamathew said:

not doing anything additional. No matter what, I wouldn't terminate, so I don't see the point in the testing. A lot of the tests aren't 100% anyway, so it can make you worry for nothing. I want to enjoy the pregnancy as much as possible
This thread is not about terminating, but I wish people would stop throwing around "I would never terminate." It's such a holier than thou statement. You don't know what you would do until you're in it. And it's a situation I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

I completely agree with @jessicamathew‌ . Sometimes its about knowing what you are up against. My son Brodie's heart stopped at 31 weeks and i had to deliver. I chose to try to carry him to term after his trisomy diagnosis at 22 weeks. While his passing would have been devastating either way im glad that i did know so i was prepared that there was a possibility he wouldn't make it.

Irishcurls · June 2014

MaddScientist said:

Irishcurls said:

I just geeked out on Panorama's website. There's a pretty good white paper explaining how their test is different than the others. :-B

recap for us lazies?

Sorry that was a total post and run (walk). They do a ficoll to the blood, extract maternal DNA from the white blood cells, and then extract combined DNA from the serum--then they do (what I assume) is a custom SNP panel from one of these companies, which is highly multiplexed for all the common trisomies and conditions, then the DNA is sequenced and the maternal "control" from the WBC is subtracted from the serum samples. I do a lot of Next Generation Sequencing and was trying to figure out what sequencer they use but couldn't find it.

eta to tag my girl @maddscientist since I'm sure this will get buried under our warp speed board!

Irishcurls · June 2014

LilTiger15 said:

not doing anything additional. No matter what, I wouldn't terminate, so I don't see the point in the testing. A lot of the tests aren't 100% anyway, so it can make you worry for nothing. I want to enjoy the pregnancy as much as possible

You ladies have the terminating covered but the DNA tests are upwards of 99% accurate, which.....I mean we only have so many chromosomes....that's pretty fucking accurate.

XSweetieO0O · June 2014

I was reading online today about their pricing and it's a little odd. I really want the test though, so I'm happy I read other woes prior. Apparently unless you're in NY or FL you can have something called prompt pricing. So if it is or isn't covered by insurance, regardless they send a massive bill. Like 1k-5k. But when you call they tell you it's only $145 prompt pricing. Some said $195. And to ignore what the claim says isnt covered. My coworker never mentioned this so I can ask him more if anyone is interested. Definitely worth calling Panorama first though to see how much out of pocket would be.

And to add upon what everyone has said, It's not about termination its about preperation.

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