October 2014 Moms

WTF?! What the hell am I supposed to do now?! (Sorry, long)

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Re: WTF?! What the hell am I supposed to do now?! (Sorry, long)

  • Oh man, I am so incredibly sorry you're having to deal with this crap. I'm so mad. You are not overreacting. I would be beyond furious, and I probably would've chucked the phone at his face.

    Now, if this were me, I would call this woman and potentially her employer. Don't be emotional, just state that you're his wife and maybe she should work on being a hell of a lot more professional. Especially when her client is a married man with a baby on the way. That is beyond unacceptable on both their parts. You never ask someone what kind of underwear they're wearing and call them sexy when you're joking (and married).

     As for your husband, I don't know what to tell you to do. If it were me, the trust would be nearly gone. I don't know what I would do. Do you have a non-bias 3rd party you can go to?

     

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  • That makes me so mad for you!  I think I would probably want to write out the things I wanted to address with him, so that it was clear in my head and get some of the anger out so I could a functional discussion.
    I can't think of any situation where (joking or not) it would be appropriate to discuss underwear with your real estate agent.  That chick needs to go and be replaced with a male agent, preferably with a different agency.  
    I think I would want to do some marriage therapy.  Pregnancy and the first few months with a new baby have been some of the rougher times in my own marriage. 
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  • Dude, I am so sorry!! PPs have pretty much covered everything but I just want to say I don't think you're overreacting at all! You have every right to be upset about this, whether things got physical or not. Do NOT let him turn this around like it's your fault!!! You have a lot of support here. HUGS!
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  • I am so sorry that you're dealing with this. I don't have any real advice but wanted to echo the support of all the great women on this board - and let you my T&Ps are with you right now. I don't really know what I'd do in the same situation, but agree with PPs that you aren't overreacting. Hopefully maybe when the dust settles you two can sit down calmly and talk this out. Thoughts are with you.

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  • I am sorry you are going through this. I would agree with talking to a professional. I would say for you and then maybe you and him. That way there is someone there that can guild the conversation. H broke your trust and is going to have to work at getting it back.
    I also agree with calling the real estate office and letting them know about this. They are not going to want someone that does this type of stuff to be working for them.
    I also want to let you know that you have every right to feel the way you feel. H maybe trying to minimize what he has done by trying to put it on you. Don't let him. He knows he was caught red handed and he needs to deal with it.
    Big hugs for you.
    It is you decision if you want to tell your mom and sister. It depends on your relationship with them and what you think would happen if H stayed around.
    Again ((big hugs)) and good luck.
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  • I am so sorry to hear this! I don't think you are over reacting in the slightest.  That behavior is unacceptable and not appropriate for a married man no matter what the context. I agree with calling the real estate company you are working with and telling them about the situation; that is incredibly unprofessional and could cost this woman her job.  (That'll teach her for trying to mess with a married man - I am vengeful like that)

    None of his behavior is your fault at all! don't let him weasel his way out of it.   I liked the other PP suggested a no contact agreement and you want to see proof of what ever text/email he sends saying that he will no longer be contacting her or working with her on this property search.  I would even switch real estate agents to make a point to the company, the woman involved and your DH.  Also seriously consider counseling.  I wish you the best - I can tell you from past experience this isn't easy to go through (previous marriage) Big hugs!  I hope you are able to work through this together
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    Wow. The number one thing cheaters say when they're caught: "you're crazy". You're not crazy. None of us are crazy. He's either already cheating or about to cheat. Sounds like it was going to be an emotional affair not just sexual, based on all the messages and the content. It's not the girl's fault. She doesn't owe you anything. She doesn't even know you. Hold your husband responsible. I hate to say this but men typically initiate emotional affairs when they have checked out of a relationship. Hopefully you caught early enough to take whatever actions you feel are best-whether it be working things out or leaving him. It's much worse to find out about an emotional affair a year into it.

    I'm literally feeling your pain and am about to start crying myself. My only advice is any time he tries to turn the argument around on you and question your sanity, end the conversation. Don't get dragged into a ridiculous argument when it's obvious to even perfect strangers what exactly he was doing.
  • (((hugs))) so sorry.  i'm not sure if this is your 1st child but i have heard of guys doing crap like this (and worse) when they are about to become a father.  some leftover caveman instinct or something.  hoping you discovered this early and that he's never done anything like it before.  i don't have any new advice but have read a lot of really helpful suggestions from PP's.  hopefully you can find your way through this.
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  • Omgosh, I'm so so sorry. How horrible. What he is going is cheating, whether it's physical or not. When you are emotionally or conversationally intimate with someone else, it is wrong, period. I'm sorry, I don't have any advice for you, except counseling? And another thing, when you are married, you share everything, no secrets. My husband can look at my phone, mail email, facebook, whatever, whenever he wants and vice versa. That's what a marriage is about, is sharing it all. I wish I knew something to say to help you fix this. ((hugs))
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    I dont have much advice, but i saw some others did have some good advice. I just wanted to say im sorry and we are here if you need it.
  • I am so sorry you are dealing with this! I didn't read the other responses because all I can think is how I want to go punch him in his face for you! I found out a boyfriend I had was cheating on me the same way. We had just had sex and I went to take a shower and while I was in the shower he was texting her. I don't have any advice of what you should do since he was just a boyfriend I left him, but being married and having a baby on the way is a completely different situation. Big hugs! Does she know he's married? I would call her, but I'm a little crazy!
  • I'm so sorry you are going through this. Although I don't have any additional advice I just wanted to let you know I'm sending you thoughts and hugs.
  • :( I am so sorry you're going through this! I second (or third? fourth?) the idea of keeping this just between the two of you for now. I've found that parents/siblings/friends seem to remember these bad things and forget the good things.. or maybe I forget to gush about the good things? I dunno.

    But that aside, he is totally out of line. I would sit down with him tonight and have a long heart to heart. I would point blank ask if he has cheated in the past or has done anything with Kristen. Have they kissed? I would also send Kristen a message from your phone saying that you are his wife and that he will no longer be communicating with her. I would ask every question you want to ask- write them down now if you think you'll forget them in the moment. Keep it as calm and rational as possible and tell him what you want going forward- does he need to leave for awhile? sleep in another bedroom? let you go through his phone every day? What do you see as a reasonable way to gain back trust?
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  • Everyone has presented wonderful ideas and great points. Just wanted to send lots and lots of love and hugs your way.
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    Thank you to everyone for your advice and support!  I've been crying since 7 this morning and feel like I'm not crazy and that I actually have people that care about me, even if you don't really know me, when I read these messages.

    I'm so upset, angry, confused.. pretty much every emotion under the sun.  I've always trusted him, 100%.  He's always made such a huge deal about trust, so it just floors me that he would do this.  I keep asking myself why this happened.  Why did he have to do this?  Why, why, why?  I'm so hurt!

    I honestly have no idea what to do next.  I'm such a laid back person and I always want everyone else to be happy that I have no clue how to act.  I feel like I don't want to upset him, but I don't want him to think that this is okay or that this isn't a big deal.  How bad is that, that I still care so much about his happiness that I am worried about upsetting him...

    I'm sorry for all the rambling.. I'm just so confused and feel so unloved and not good enough.  I almost wish I never looked at his phone so I wouldn't know.

    I also want to add that I left work this morning, so I can cry in the comfort of my own home.  My husband won't get home from work tonight until after I'm in bed.  I'm worried that because of that, he will feel like he can get out of talking to me.  Maybe I should stay up.  I'm so non-confrontational... I hate this.
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  • I'm so sorry you're going through this. I had been with DS1's "father" for 4 years when I got pregnant. During the pregnancy multiple people told me he was cheating on me, I didn't believe them (because someone had also spread a rumor that I had cheated). When I was 38 weeks pregnant, I checked his phone. He had deleted EVERYTHING, well just as I was about to put the phone back, he got a text message. An unknown number saying what a great time she had last night. I called the number and asked to know everything. She told me everything, she had no idea he was engaged. I packed my stuff and went to my parents house. We tried to work things out but it just didn't happen. I still felt like he was cheating, I'm pretty sure he still was. The trust was gone. Then he ended up wanting NOTHING to do with DS1. I later started dating my now husband and my husband adopted DS1. 

    I'm not saying that will happen to you. I wish you all the best on trying to work through this with your husband. I hope that he can fix it and can gain your trust again. But either way, things will work out the way they're meant to be. If you ever want to talk, you're welcome to message me. Good luck. 
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  • (((Hugs))) 

    Remember, you don't have to make any decisions right now.  If you need a few days to think before talking, take them.  Take care of yourself first.  Focus on eating, drinking, and getting rest where you can.  Everything one day at a time.

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  • Ugh, I don't know if I can blame hormones on this one, but reading your post just brings me to tears, it's so upsetting.  I know I tend to be non-confrontational too, but when I get mad I often to say things I don't mean.  Maybe it's better if you don't see him tonight so you have time to cool off and reflect on things a little bit.  Sorry, I'm no good at giving advice on this kind of stuff, I just hope everything works out for you.

     

  • Know that if he wants to get past this that he will come clean with you about everything and allow 100% transparency into all of his things he considers "private". He should know he gave up private when he decided that texting another chick was a good choice. Also I want you to know that what ever you feel at the time is normal. Again, I'm so sorry, my heart breaks for you. Getting past trust issues has to be one of the hardest things to do in any relationship. And also if I were you I'd make his ass sleep on the couch. Distance from him will probably be a good thing for you. Maybe take a couple days to yourself. Find someone you can talk to. It's not fair that you have to keep it to yourself, its hard to work out how you feel by yourself. 
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    I honestly have no idea what to do next.  I'm such a laid back person and I always want everyone else to be happy that I have no clue how to act.  I feel like I don't want to upset him, but I don't want him to think that this is okay or that this isn't a big deal.  How bad is that, that I still care so much about his happiness that I am worried about upsetting him...

    I also want to add that I left work this morning, so I can cry in the comfort of my own home.  My husband won't get home from work tonight until after I'm in bed.  I'm worried that because of that, he will feel like he can get out of talking to me.  Maybe I should stay up.  I'm so non-confrontational... I hate this.
    I was married to an addict and one thing I learned through all of this is that you are not responsible for protecting someone from the consequences of their own actions. You are not responsible for how they act or react. You are responsible for you. He is responsible for himself. I wanted to avoid confrontation too because it's uncomfortable! But you can spend a long time in an unhappy situation if you try to stay comfortable.
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    (((Hugs))) 

    Remember, you don't have to make any decisions right now.  If you need a few days to think before talking, take them.  Take care of yourself first.  Focus on eating, drinking, and getting rest where you can.  Everything one day at a time.

    Great advice.
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  • This happened to a dear friend of mine.  The texting affair did escalate to making out at one point, but definitely a betrayal.  Here's what they did:

    1)  They went to their pastor (who happens to also be my friend's FIL), and his advice was, you need to separate immediately for a period of time.  I think he crashed at a friend's house for a few weeks.  They have 2 kids, so they still spent time with their kids each day.

    2) The pastor/FIL said, they must get into counseling ASAP.  She put that on him.  He was incredibly apologetic and begged for forgiveness, but she said, you want to fix this marriage, then you have to put forth the effort.  He found them a counselor and scheduled an appointment for 2 days later.  Literally this all blew up on a Saturday evening, they saw their pastor on Sunday, and were in counseling on Tuesday evening.  She also wanted him to pick the counselor, so he didn't feel like he needed to be on the defensive like he may have if he felt she picked the counselor because she thought they would "side" with her. 

    3) She met the "other woman."  I don't know how she did it because I'm pretty sure I'd have an assault charge on my record if I was in her shoes, but she sat down and talked to her.  She wasn't bitchy or vindictive, but did say, you need to stay away from my husband because we're working on things, and you need to respect my family right now.  You do not call him, you do not text him, and he will not be coming by your place of employment.

    4) After a few weeks, he was back home, quit going to bars (the other woman was a bartender), and they've both changed their family dynamic.  After counseling, they also got a personal trainer and joined a triathlon club.  They're marriage is stronger than ever, and they're also physically a much healthier family.

    I don't know if you have a pastor, but I'd suggest seeking emergency counseling ASAP to come up with a game plan.  Small (and this is not small by any means) issues can become huge blow ups once LO arrives, and you're dealing with sleep deprivation, hormones, diapers, and feedings, and this is only if everything goes according to plan. 

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  • Was this his first meeting with her? Why did he go look at the property without you if it was supposed to be "your" investment property?

    There is a slim (very slim) chance she doesn't know he's married. She's still completely unprofessional even if she didn't know. After reading all the posts I remembered a time when I was 15 that a guy asked me for my number and wanted to "hang out" at his apartment. Being 15 I gave him my number but was smart enough to not go anywhere with him. Two days later I got a call from his wife who was pregnant with their third child. She saw my number in his phone. I had no idea he was married and probably worse was that he was 30 and had told me he was much younger. I told his wife everything. She about died when I told her I was 15 and that he knew I was 15 and that he invited me back to his apartment.
  • I am still floored by his actions and I am so happy that you could come here to see how many people do care even if we really are "strangers".  I can't imagine the hurt you are feeling and I think everyone one here gave great advice and some btdt stories.

    I normally wait a few days until I am calm to discuss the issue that made me upset but in this situation I don't know if you should go to bed before he gets home.  Even if it is not to confront the issue but to remind him that this has not magically become better and that it is over.  Maybe telling him that he should sleep somewhere else (whether another room in your home or a friend's house) and that you will need to talk about it when you are ready.

    I do hope you find a professional to aid you in this time because honestly it is a high-risk game and you do not need to endure any more additional stress.

    and I am with some others, I wish we could all be there irl to kick his ass.

  • I am so so so sorry you are going through this. I would be beyond hurt and angry. :::hugs::: PP gave you some great advice, and I don't have much to add. Just wanted to say I'm sorry and keep us updated, we're here for you. 
  • What he did is not ok and your feelings are completely valid. I would have a hard time staying level headed myself so I don't have any suggestions on how you could. Do you have a good friend you could talk to or spend some time with this evening to cool off? I would need some space before I could have a meaningful conversation. Also, agree with others that a counselor or other neutral party could really help you approach it in a less emotional way.

    I'm so sorry you are going through this and hope he puts his guard down and talks to you in an adult way about what is going on.

    Hugs!
  • I think you've gotten a ton of great advice. I just want to say that I wish you the best in all of this and you are not overreacting!

    Has he tried to contact you at all today? That might help you decide how to handle tonight as far as staying up? Or locking his ass outside of the house and leaving his clothes in the yard? I kid, I kid. Kind of. ;) Good luck and in glad you've found support here.
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  • Im so sorry hun.. im so glad youve gotten so much great advice from all the ladies here today and hope that you can move forward with some clarity..
  • You've gotten some great advice, but I wanted to just chime in on something for looking forward.  If you two talk and decide to work through things and work on things, part of it is going to be putting the past in the past.  And that means not throwing it in his face in the future, not demanding he have no privacy because of what he's done, etc.  When I was in a similar situation as you, I found that step to be the hardest because I couldn't help but be brought back to that place (and it doesn't help that unlike you, I am very confrontational).  If you think that will end up being a problem for you too, I would strongly encourage individual counseling as well.

    Best of luck to you.  I hope your husband gets his crap together.
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  • Others have provided some excellent advice. I just want to say that I am truly sorry that you are going through this. It is completely unfair and you are in no way responsible for his actions. Don't put any of it on yourself. Hugs to you!
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  • You are not overreacting. I'm very sorry you are going through this. I agree with PP that suggested finding someone IRL to talk to. I also think it's appropriate to report this to the real estate agency assuming the woman doesn't have her own business. She may not know he's married, and I don't tend to blame the women in this situation, but that's not a professional way to interact with clients and her employer should know.

    Sending tons of hugs your way.

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  • Wow OP, I am so very sorry you are going through this! You are not overreacting at all! I agree with most of the advise you've received so far! You definitely need to speak with your DH & counseling is a great way to work through things! I hope you can find some peace & come to a resolution soon! ((Big Hugs))
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    I'm very sorry. I hope your husband stops acting like a jerk and gets his shit together. I don't have much advice to add, but I think putting some space between the two of you for a few days is a good idea so that you can have some time to sort out your feelings and he can have some time to reflect on how serious you are about how much he hurt you.
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  • Wow, I am so sorry. You did not do anything wrong and you have every right to be sad/devastated/angry - whatever you're feeling. I really hope he comes around and apologizes sincerely. He is obviously blaming you because he doesn't want to face his own guilt. I agree with PP's who have recommended counseling, for yourself and hopefully marriage counseling. He needs to take this seriously. I am so so sorry - I hope this situation gets better soon!

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  • Nothing to add that hasn't been said already, just lending further support. Sorry you're going through this sucky situation
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  • I don't have anything to add that PP havent already said. I just wanted to say I am so sorry you are going through this. Please don't blame yourself. You are not unloveable. Please take care of yourself and hopefully you can find a counselor or someone to talk to.

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