Trouble TTC

Intro and help/opinions please (siggy warning, child & loss mentioned)

Mrs.EssMrs.Ess member
edited June 2014 in Trouble TTC
Hello,  

I have been trying to post this for awhile but have had issues with my computer/the bump.  I have updated my siggy multiple times but after I posted I still see the old picture/ticker, I apologize if I have offended anyone- does anyone know how I can successfully update this? I have been lurking for a LONG time but feel it's time to come out as long as you'll have me.    

I'll try to keep it short- DH and I tried for about 18 months with multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid + IUI before conceiving our daughter spontaneously in 2010.  RE said it was a total fluke.  I was dx with PCOS, him with low concentration/count.  We have essentially never prevented in the 3 years since she was born and have actively tried for the last 2 years.  I have been ovulating regularly and charting.  I got pregnant in February but miscarried right at 5 weeks.  I can't get in to the RE I want until the end of July, but after the mc I felt the need to try something, anything (IF is making me a desperate, crazy woman).  Went to my old RE's nurse practitioner whom I had seen in the past.  Insisted on HSG in May, tubes all clear. Tried Femara 5 mg CD 3-7, monitored, slow response but 2 follies nearing maturity, was going to do IUI but missed our window bc we went out of town so tried trigger and TI.  BFN, now on CD2. 

 I didn't want to skip another cycle while waiting to see the new RE, so I called today to see about doing another Femara cycle with IUI as at this time we have agreed that we can/will not pursue IVF.  Nurse said they would have me start Femara 7.5mg tomorrow for another round of CD3-7.  Increased dose so that I would hopefully respond quicker/better this time.  I asked about a baseline u/s and she (nurse) said to just take the meds, no u/s needed.  I said I was concerned about the possibility of residual follicles/cysts and didn't want to exacerbate this with more meds.  She said she would ask the NP and call me back if she wants to schedule the u/s, and if I don't hear from her to just take the meds tomorrow.  Also, my mid-cycle monitoring u/s would normally be CD13 which falls on July 4th (They are closed) so they would either have me come the day before and see someone else, or 2 days before if I wanted to see her.  

Insurance is a nightmare and of course covers NOTHING, so all of this is out of pocket.  While I hate paying for extra u/s etc. if I have my mid cycle too early and respond slowly again, I am having a hard time swallowing NO BASELINE with a hx of PCOS and an increased dosage.... my gut tells me I need to sit this one out if they won't do the baseline, which sucks because I am so over all of this.  I am quite honestly to the point of desperation and I don't want to do something I'll regret because IF is clouding my judgement.  I am sure they think I am "that" patient who always has something to say or ask about, but quite frankly I feel like I'm just another patient to them.  If I am going to pay them hundreds or potentially thousands of dollars for treatment, I absolutely want it done in the most appropriate and efficient way, even if that means it will cost me more.  I don't want to throw my money away and end up in worse shape than before :(  
Sorry if this was just a bunch of rambling but thank you for reading.   What would you do in this situation?? 

Edited for clarity
TTC #2 since 2011 (took 1.5 years to conceive spontaneously after multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid +IUI)
Me- PCOS, borderline hypothyroid
Him- low concentration/count

Feb 2014- started acupuncture
Feb 2014- BFP
March 2014- m/c @ 5 weeks
May 2014- HSG, all clear, started Synthroid, Femara 5mg CD 3-7 + trigger + TI= BFN
Waiting for new RE appointment end of July 2014

Re: Intro and help/opinions please (siggy warning, child & loss mentioned)

  • Thank you Naria, logically I know that's what I should do. I hope they will agree to just do an u/s. The thought of yet another month going by at this point just sucks. I am mobile now and the link isn't working but I will try it from home later.
    TTC #2 since 2011 (took 1.5 years to conceive spontaneously after multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid +IUI)
    Me- PCOS, borderline hypothyroid
    Him- low concentration/count

    Feb 2014- started acupuncture
    Feb 2014- BFP
    March 2014- m/c @ 5 weeks
    May 2014- HSG, all clear, started Synthroid, Femara 5mg CD 3-7 + trigger + TI= BFN
    Waiting for new RE appointment end of July 2014

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  • Thank you again for the siggy help!! Got it fixed up now :)
    TTC #2 since 2011 (took 1.5 years to conceive spontaneously after multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid +IUI)
    Me- PCOS, borderline hypothyroid
    Him- low concentration/count

    Feb 2014- started acupuncture
    Feb 2014- BFP
    March 2014- m/c @ 5 weeks
    May 2014- HSG, all clear, started Synthroid, Femara 5mg CD 3-7 + trigger + TI= BFN
    Waiting for new RE appointment end of July 2014

  • Welcome. I urge you to sit out this cycle because a baseline ultrasound is so important. People with PCOS are more likely to have cysts develop from what I have read. I think it's good you are switching REs soon because this current office does not seem to be too prudent with your care.

    Missed M/C natural cycle 10/2013

    DX PCOS 3/2014

    2 cycles Clomid 50 mg + Ovidrel + TI

    1 cycle Clomid 50 mg + TI - no response stair-stepped to Clomid 75 mg + Ovidrel + TI

    1 cycle Clomid 50 mg + Ovidrel + IUI

    1 cycle Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Follistim + Ovidrel + TI

    1 cycle Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Folistim + Ovidrel + IUI

    1 cycle Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Follistim  - no response, repeated Letrozole 7.5 mg + 150 mg Follistim + Ovidrel + IUI = success! 12/2014

    Beta 1 - 15 dpiui, 324, Beta 2 - 17 dpiui 750. Twins!!

    My Blog: pcosandpizza.blogspot.com


  • All I can say is, welcome and I am very sorry for your loss.
  • Welcome! I'm sorry for your loss.

    I agree with PPs that it makes more sense to wait on an RE who will take care of your health with monitoring, rather than risk not only health but waiting to clear up cysts if there is a problem. I think it's great that you are advocating for yourself! :)
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
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  • Thank you everyone for your replies!

    I just called the nurse and insisted on a baseline u/s and told her I'm not comfortable moving forward without it. She told me the NP is out of the office the rest of the week.. Apparently that's reason enough to just skip the ultrasound?? I find that crazy. I asked if there was someone else who could perform the u/s in her absence and she is supposed to call me back. If nobody can do it I guess I'm out another month. I can't wait to move on but if they would just do what I say for one more cycle at least I get a chance LOL
    TTC #2 since 2011 (took 1.5 years to conceive spontaneously after multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid +IUI)
    Me- PCOS, borderline hypothyroid
    Him- low concentration/count

    Feb 2014- started acupuncture
    Feb 2014- BFP
    March 2014- m/c @ 5 weeks
    May 2014- HSG, all clear, started Synthroid, Femara 5mg CD 3-7 + trigger + TI= BFN
    Waiting for new RE appointment end of July 2014

  • Glad to see you standing up for yourself. Good for you!

    Surely they have someone who could do the u/s...when I was working with an OB, they didn't require CD3 u/s but were always happy to do one when I requested it. I figure they should be happy to take your money!

    Me (29) DH (37)

    Married 7/11

    Actively TTC 3/12

    DX: PCOS

    Current treatment: Break from IUIs until after the holidays

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  • Thanks again everyone. I win for now, going for an u/s in the morning with another NP!
    TTC #2 since 2011 (took 1.5 years to conceive spontaneously after multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid +IUI)
    Me- PCOS, borderline hypothyroid
    Him- low concentration/count

    Feb 2014- started acupuncture
    Feb 2014- BFP
    March 2014- m/c @ 5 weeks
    May 2014- HSG, all clear, started Synthroid, Femara 5mg CD 3-7 + trigger + TI= BFN
    Waiting for new RE appointment end of July 2014

  • Welcome! Sorry that you're having a tough time with the situation this month, I can totally see where you're coming from. If you have any hesitations, I would sit this cycle out from meds and wait until you can talk to an RE. you don't want to be worrying the whole time and stressing out from it. As far as being "that patient" I wouldn't worry too much. You are paying your hard earned money, investing your time and emotions also so you deserve the very best! Ask as many questions and you need and try not to be afraid to push if necessary. You'd be surprised the stories I've read about girls who pushed and ended up getting the answers they needed despite the doctors "expert opinion" at the beginning. Lots of luck and I wish you the best! :)

    Trying to have baby #1 since April 2013

    DH SA March,May 2014 - Low motility and shape issues. On vitamins per RE to help

    Me testing April 3, 2014 - FSH and LH good, HSG showed blocked right tube

    April 29, 2014 - First RE appt., right tube needs to be removed and possibly left also if

    it's bad too. RE suggests going straight to IVF

    June 4, 2014 - LAP/HSC and unexpected endo. removed but tubes got to stay!

    June 13, 2014 - Post-Op appointment. We decide where to go next since main issue

    is MFI influenced. Trying naturally until decision... Repeat SA  in September. Aiming for IUI #1 November 2014.

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  • @iPutKetchupOnKetchup‌ and @nswain85‌ I know I shouldn't worry about being "that patient" but I'm an RN and I hate to admit I've dealt with patients before that drove me crazy always questioning everything etc. it's a different story when you're the patient LOL. Had the u/s this morning and everything looks good so I'll start the Femara tonight. I can't wait to see my new RE next month!!
    TTC #2 since 2011 (took 1.5 years to conceive spontaneously after multiple failed clomid cycles and 1 failed clomid +IUI)
    Me- PCOS, borderline hypothyroid
    Him- low concentration/count

    Feb 2014- started acupuncture
    Feb 2014- BFP
    March 2014- m/c @ 5 weeks
    May 2014- HSG, all clear, started Synthroid, Femara 5mg CD 3-7 + trigger + TI= BFN
    Waiting for new RE appointment end of July 2014

  • I see where you're coming from :) I just hate the thought of people being too afraid or nervous to really ask for what they want and then become even more frustrated. Sounds like you have a good grasp on things though and I hope that everything goes well! :) Happy the u/s went well and you can start the meds! Good luck!

    Trying to have baby #1 since April 2013

    DH SA March,May 2014 - Low motility and shape issues. On vitamins per RE to help

    Me testing April 3, 2014 - FSH and LH good, HSG showed blocked right tube

    April 29, 2014 - First RE appt., right tube needs to be removed and possibly left also if

    it's bad too. RE suggests going straight to IVF

    June 4, 2014 - LAP/HSC and unexpected endo. removed but tubes got to stay!

    June 13, 2014 - Post-Op appointment. We decide where to go next since main issue

    is MFI influenced. Trying naturally until decision... Repeat SA  in September. Aiming for IUI #1 November 2014.

    image

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