FFFC

janda426 · June 2014

I'm raging that people leave their poor dogs outside in the storm. The dog is probably so petrified and trying to do anything to get back inside.

asoneill · June 2014

bibliothecary said:

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Ugh. I can't tell her to shelf read. Even though I'm full-time and she isn't, she thinks she's my superior because she's a wrinkled old bitch. My boss has told me not to pay any attention to her. It would be nice if the wrinkled bitch would return the favor and not run to our boss every fucking time I do something she doesn't approve of. Things she's complained about in the past: men hit on Biblio, Biblio's too helpful, "Is Biblio here for my job?!", Biblio has big boobs and I find that unseemly, there was one time that a guy was trying to look up Biblio's skirt as she went upstairs... I think that's her fault!

WHAT.

Wow... she sounds... special.

divinemsbee · June 2014

BBnut said:

FFFC I'm drinking and it's only 2pm

I looked really hard at a bottle of wine at 11am. The only reason I didn't is that I have to help with a fundraiser tonight.

Wine&Cupcakes · June 2014

Joy2611 said:

Wine&Cupcakes said:

Hahah! Not you either! But yea, I caught a random post and it mentioned something and when I investigated further, the stars aligned. Then, of course I spent an hour going through all of this persons posts to confirm my suspicions and as it turns out, I'm 10000% right. Crazy. But then again, I look back at my posts, and while a crazy stranger couldn't figure me out, someone I'm friends with on facebook or something could easily put the same pieces together with a hunch.

Again, I'm more afraid of the internet cray cray's versus real life peeps. The real life peeps already know how to find me, and would have already killed/stalked me. The internet peeps are wildcards in that regard.

I feel like you owe this person a PM now that you've made it so obvious that you know.

But, mostly because I'm paranoid that it's me.

I prooommmmiiissseeee that it's none of you ladies. It's someone new who doesn't really post, but through my bump sleuthing, I looked at the few things they had said and put the puzzle together.

I don't know know this person, so I'm not going to say anything...if I knew them on a more personal level I would for sure mention it. You can all breath a sigh of relief. I have no idea who you all are IRL any more than I know Oprah.

beepity · June 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

beepity said:

fuzzylogic said:

It's not exactly safe for them. They can eat things that can poison them, get injured (squirrels are real assholes), be stolen (I live in the city, though, and people actually do this, mainly for dog fighting baits), or be caught in inclement weather. Is there no shelter provided for him if he does get caught up in these frequent pop-up storms?

We crate our dog when we aren't home, unless the weather is going to be super-nice, which is all of five days of the year here, it seems. She's always a lot more stressed on those days when we leave her out, though, so leaving her in the crate is our best option. She just sleeps.

I do know plenty of people that leave their dogs out all day, every day, even when it's over 100 or under 30 and that I judge hardcore. Leaving them out when the weather is nice isn't as bad to me, but there is still a chance of something happening to them.

We had an old bassett hound named Sally when I was a kid. Our dogs were all outside dogs, but many were street rescues and we didn't have room in the house. Someone threw a poisoned/rancid piece of meat in our backyard, she ate it, and died. I will never leave a pet out all the time because of that.

All our dogs growing up were "outside only" dogs. They had fenced areas with a dog house and straw to stay warm in the winter (Western Michigan). Everyone in my extended family did the same. Yes, they got out. Yes, some were hit by cars and died. I consider myself a dog lover but to me they are "pets". Our dog now (my H and I together) is our first "inside" dog and I wouldn't leave him outside. I guess my FFFC is that although I love dogs I am not as "attached" as some people. I don't think there is anything wrong with having an outside dog as long as they have access to shelter/shade and fresh water. Even if they're "out" in a storm.

Edit: crappy iPad wall of text.

Yes, and back in the dark ages we used to put babies in the back windows of cars and figured it was safe.

Come join us in the present day and stop living in the past. In a town it is not safe and will get animal control called on you, as well it should. You are neglecting your pet. On a farm where they have free roam and can get into barns or sheds as needed, not a big deal. Those options are limited in a fenced in yard.

I agree with this for "in town" (or for us in the suburbs) pets. When we got our dog last year one of the first things I did was read the city laws on dogs. As I said, our dog is an "inside" dog. We crate him when we are away. On days we're both working we have a pet sitter come let him out, feed and walk him. I think that's pretty "present day".

There is nothing wrong with people who live in the country (without city codes) leaving their dog outside 100% of the time. Present day included. They have food, water and shelter. They are not being neglected.

Wine&Cupcakes · June 2014

CoozieInMyPurse said:

fuzzylogic said:

CoozieInMyPurse said:

I cannot wait until our oldest dog dies so that we can start fixing up up all the crap he's destroyed. We will have to replace the entire back door and frame, plus siding where he has chewed and scratched in his efforts to get inside when it storms. We can't sell our house until he is gone and all that damage is repaired, which means that I have to live in the house my H bought with his ex for the foreseeable future. The dog is 13 or so years old. DH FINALLY made a vet appointment for tomorrow after putting it off for YEARS because he doesn't want bad news about the dog.

ETA I will be sad when the dog goes; he's a sweetie. But I'd love to have a door knob on the back door again (he's eaten through two).

Why is your dog outside when it's storming?

Is it unusual to keep dogs outside when you aren't home? He is old and kind of incontinent, so he stays outside when we aren't home and sleeps out there too. There is plenty of cover, water, etc. We live in a part of the country with frequent pop-up afternoon thunderstorms during the summer (and other parts of the year). So we aren't always home when a storm comes up to let him in. If we are, he comes in, obviously.

ETA details.

I've heard of this being done in many a place. My little loverboy sleeps on beds and couches, has routine treats, several toys and has his own personal dog stairs to get to the bed. He also will go a mile out of his way to avoid any body of water, hell, even a wet patch of sidewalk. He is SO not that type of dog! I will go home and tell him how other dogs live to try and make him appreciate me more.

janda426 · June 2014

For people who leave their dogs roaming around outside on a farm: when it's 90 degrees outside does their "shelter" include air conditioning? Does no one care if their dog over heats or not? Even in the shade it can be hot. I just don't understand why people bother getting a dog if they can't be bothered.

Wine&Cupcakes · June 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

countrygrl5533 said:

CoozieInMyPurse said:

Is it unusual to keep dogs outside when you aren't home? He is old and kind of incontinent, so he stays outside when we aren't home and sleeps out there too. There is plenty of cover, water, etc. We live in a part of the country with frequent pop-up afternoon thunderstorms during the summer (and other parts of the year). So we aren't always home when a storm comes up to let him in. If we are, he comes in, obviously.

ETA details.

That's completely normal here and you see it all time. Most of my state is rural so outside and farm dogs are a common thing.

My parents' dog has to be outside when they aren't home. He has a bit of a destructive separation anxiety thing going on and is not a small dog. If they leave him in the house, he destroys everything, even breaks windows to get out and run. If they leave him out, he's super chill. He has a dog house that he goes in if it rains. Or on top of if he is feeling his inner Snoopy. lol

In a rural area- yes. In a city- horrible idea.

I called the cops on some asshat who left his 30lb dog outside in a blizzard on a small, city-sized porch. The dog was freezing and had no cover. I was thisclose to stealing the poor thing. The cops tracked down the owner and told him to get ass home ASAP. Luckily, he did.

ToryKate · June 2014

Trickyjedi said:

BillyHorrible said:

I don't think you need to be married to TTC or have kids, but I don't get TTC when you're engaged but not married. Why not just wait a couple months?

This is probably coming from the fact that I wouldn't want to worry about being sick on my wedding day, am too vain to want to be a giant pregnant lady in a wedding dress, and can't even begin to imagine planning and dealing with a wedding with a newborn.
Because maybe some of us realize that it might be more difficult to get pregnant and want to take every opportunity that we can get. I'm getting married in the near future and if my timing lines up I most definetly will be trying to get KTFU before the wedding.

Yah I started TTC 8 months before my wedding. And I am so glad I did. July is our year mark and I am glad we are "8 months ahead" for testing and saving money and whatever else the next step in our TTC journey entails. Plus my wedding was about marrying the love of my life, it wasn't some pretty princess dress up day. If I was pregnant with our child it would have only made the day even more amazing than it already was.

countrygrl5533 · June 2014

janda426 said:

For people who leave their dogs roaming around outside on a farm: when it's 90 degrees outside does their "shelter" include air conditioning? Does no one care if their dog over heats or not? Even in the shade it can be hot. I just don't understand why people bother getting a dog if they can't be bothered.

It's rarely 90 degrees here nor do most houses even have A/C. Frankly, it's cooler in his dog house in the shade than it is in the house. I'm a big jealous of that. lol. They aren't usually gone more than a few hours at a time so really, he isn't outside alone all that much anyway. He loves being a farm dog but he loves to go inside and sleep at night too.

PHNJenna · June 2014

@LinnyDan12 , I hear ya!

Early in mine & DH's relationship we had a serious conversation about the possibility of not having any children on purpose. This thought path lasted for about a year, it also coincided with the "honeymoon" phase of our relationship, we were younger, we were having a lot of fun, we were traveling and it just didn't seem to fit. Almost 5 years down the road, life is so different and with 30 creeping on me, I have a different perspective now…. which brings me to my FFFC… one of my co-workers (that I semi-like) whom is out on maternity leave came by with her baby and for some reason it just annoyed the fuck out of me and I was secretly happy that she's had a rough go of the first three months (first child too) because she was always putting down the mom's that we see as clients for not breastfeeding longer, or for complaining about lack of sleep- karma came back and slapped her in the face, for sure.

nannabee21 · June 2014

I thought of another. It annoys the crap out of me when my H constantly insists he has told me something and clearly he has not. He keeps giving me looks like I'm crazy for not remembering when in reality he hasn't told me the story. He is incessant and it pisses me off.

My FFFC, sometimes I worry he is right and I'm losing my memory.

PHNJenna · June 2014

LindsRockies said:

PHNJenna said:

@LinnyDan12 , I hear ya!

Early in mine & DH's relationship we had a serious conversation about the possibility of not having any children on purpose. This thought path lasted for about a year, it also coincided with the "honeymoon" phase of our relationship, we were younger, we were having a lot of fun, we were traveling and it just didn't seem to fit. Almost 5 years down the road, life is so different and with 30 creeping on me, I have a different perspective now…. which brings me to my FFFC… one of my co-workers (that I semi-like) whom is out on maternity leave came by with her baby and for some reason it just annoyed the fuck out of me and I was secretly happy that she's had a rough go of the first three months (first child too) because she was always putting down the mom's that we see as clients for not breastfeeding longer, or for complaining about lack of sleep- karma came back and slapped her in the face, for sure.

She talked with her clients about how long they breastfed? Alrighty then.

@LindsRockies - We work in maternal child health.

klax4 · June 2014

There is no reason for leaving a dog outside. Although we don't kennel her, our 80lb lab would never ever be left out while we aren't home. I would never forgive myself if something happened to her. (Gets loose, stolen, poisoned, heat stroke to name a few)

My FFFC: I frigging hate bridal and baby showers. Even my own. I find them awkward. I can appreciate the tradition but, let's face it, if it weren't for the fancy sandwiches and dainties, I'd be out.

beepity · June 2014

BillyHorrible said:

beepity said:

All our dogs growing up were "outside only" dogs. They had fenced areas with a dog house and straw to stay warm in the winter (Western Michigan). Everyone in my extended family did the same. Yes, they got out. Yes, some were hit by cars and died. I consider myself a dog lover but to me they are "pets". Our dog now (my H and I together) is our first "inside" dog and I wouldn't leave him outside. I guess my FFFC is that although I love dogs I am not as "attached" as some people. I don't think there is anything wrong with having an outside dog as long as they have access to shelter/shade and fresh water. Even if they're "out" in a storm.

Edit: crappy iPad wall of text.

Wait, SOME were hit by cars and died? Like more than one? And that didn't convince you that keeping them outside was a bad idea? I don't think you can call yourself a dog lover. And frankly, it's clear you don't view them as "pets" either. More like wildlife. Deers and rabbits get hit by cars. Pets rarely do when they have responsible owners.

Yes, one when I was a baby and one when I was 6 years old. The first ran off when my parents were on a walk (we had 12+ acres of timber and they were never on a leash) and the second I believe was left out of his pen. I'm sure you have a valid point that my parents were "irresponsible" when it came to dogs. I guess my family just views pets less-lovingly than most people who consider themselves to love dogs.

klax4 · June 2014

Trickyjedi said:

klax4 said:

There is no reason for leaving a dog outside. Although we don't kennel her, our 80lb lab would never ever be left out while we aren't home. I would never forgive myself if something happened to her. (Gets loose, stolen, poisoned, heat stroke to name a few) My FFFC: I frigging hate bridal and baby showers. Even my own. I find them awkward. I can appreciate the tradition but, let's face it, if it weren't for the fancy sandwiches and dainties, I'd be out.

Meh, my bridal shower is tomorrow and I thoroughly plan on enjoying the shit out of it! I know my friends have worked really hard on it and I have family coming that I don't see often so I'm just touched that they are doing this for me.

Enjoy it! My friends and family did a great job with mine. Like i said, it's a nice tradition but I'm kind of an introvert and felt weird about opening a bunch of gifts infront of people. I probably just assume that everyone is as socially awkward as I am.

janda426 · June 2014

LindsRockies said:
Oh yay. The doggy wars have begun.

Sorry, between the people wishing death on their dogs, openly admitting to leaving them in unfavorable environments and not giving a shit that they get hit by a car I can't keep my mouth shut. This isn't just arguing over what pet food you feed your dog, these poor dogs are not being taken care of or given love. It's disgusting.

asoneill · June 2014

Thought of one, since I was watching it the other night:

FFFC: I love the movie Burlesque. It's terrible and campy but I can't help it. "Show Me How You Burlesque" is even in my running mix.

(I can't with the dog stuff right now, so I'm going with bad movies I don't usually admit to watching.)

hydrangea1019 · June 2014

RedFirePhoenix25 said:

CoozieInMyPurse said:

I cannot wait until our oldest dog dies so that we can start fixing up up all the crap he's destroyed. We will have to replace the entire back door and frame, plus siding where he has chewed and scratched in his efforts to get inside when it storms. We can't sell our house until he is gone and all that damage is repaired, which means that I have to live in the house my H bought with his ex for the foreseeable future. The dog is 13 or so years old. DH FINALLY made a vet appointment for tomorrow after putting it off for YEARS because he doesn't want bad news about the dog.

ETA I will be sad when the dog goes; he's a sweetie. But I'd love to have a door knob on the back door again (he's eaten through two).

Can I just say I'm amazed anyone got past the bolded part to even address the rest? I'm sorry, I don't usually jump in on this, but this made me want to vomit my lunch. You can file me under the ridiculously attached to their pets clan, which I know not everyone agrees with, but as much as one of my dogs pisses me off on the regular, the worst I do is threaten to kick his butt back to the pound (which clearly I have no intention of doing, because he continues to get away with all the nonsense on a daily basis).

OK, you can go back to your regularly scheduled programming. I just couldn't with this one.

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THIS!! All of this! How can you possibly begin a post saying you can't wait for your oldest dog to die and then end it with you'll be sad when he dies...
I feel sorry for your dog. Poor thing is clearly frightened being outside during storms and you're more concerned about a door knob or two.

Cythe · June 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

janda426 said:

For people who leave their dogs roaming around outside on a farm: when it's 90 degrees outside does their "shelter" include air conditioning? Does no one care if their dog over heats or not? Even in the shade it can be hot. I just don't understand why people bother getting a dog if they can't be bothered.

No they don't. Neither do the cows, sheep, chickens, ME.

I grew up without air conditioning in the house. My room was on the second floor on the west side of the house.

Air conditioning is not a requirement for a dog. Access to appropriate shelter is. If we had the fans on in the barn, the dogs usually hung out in there. Or else they usually ended up in the machine shed on the dirt. It was surprisingly cooler in there.

Our dogs were also not pets. They served a purpose and part of that included them being able to roam outdoors. They had plenty of shelter options and access to multiple water sites.

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I'm so glad I read all the posts before saying what I was going to, because you said it wonderfully. In some very rural areas (and I mean rural - Western South Dakota) every animal on the ranch serves a purpose. They're not pets, they live and die and that's life.

I'm not saying be harmful or neglectful but not all animals are meant to be indoors.

[Deleted User] · June 2014

fuzzylogic said:

Last night H told me he was going to resent the new bed in the guest bedroom. He wants me to sleep in the master with him. Well, honey, if you snore as loudly as you do, and you're going to do nothing about it, then I'm going to take care of me.

My health and happiness has to come first once in awhile. So, I don't care if he "resents" the bed or not. He can just suck it up.

Omg, this 100%

I always relocate if there is a snoring issue. I hate waking M up to have him turn over, and it usually doesn't work that great anyway.

I asked if he'd go in the other room every once in awhile, and he said, "It's not my fault, why should I have to suffer?" Um.. excuse me?

He said he'd try nose strips, but he hasn't gone out to buy any.. and he said it is probably partially because of his weight. Yet all he does when he gets home is eat more than he should, and play video games.

I'm not expecting him to work out all the time, or to stop doing things that he enjoys.. but some effort would be nice.

CoozieInMyPurse · June 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

fuzzylogic said:

Why don't more people crate train their dogs? It's not hard, it provides them a safe place, and they just sleep. My 75lb lab does just fine with it. My sister's 90lb greyhound and 70lb GSD mix do just fine with it.

Maybe you could provide a doggy door, at the very least?

Because they feel it is cruel.

But leaving them out in a storm where they they are clawing at the door to get in because they clearly don't have good enough shelter is apparently kewl.

I typed a very long diatribe with the details of the safety of the dog outside, but erased it. Short story -- the dog is not unsafe during the storms. We have tried many options, including thunder shirts and medication. He has shelter, water, fans and a storage room he can go in. He is freaked out because he is freaked out. Keeping him outside during the day is the best option for my family. He would destroy the house if he were inside and we weren't there in a storm. Not to mention that he can't go more than about three hours without peeing and we are gone for up to nine hours at a time. We cannot do a doggy door because it would allow the cats outside. If we really didn't care about the dog, didn't love him, all the other things you have accused me of, don't you think we would have simply "put him down" already, something I do not advocate.

PenguinMG said:

janda426 said:

I'm raging that people leave their poor dogs outside in the storm. The dog is probably so petrified and trying to do anything to get back inside.

Right?!!! What compels people to get a dog only to keep it outside and away from the family? Dogs are pack animals that need social structure and living outside doesn't provide that to them. If keeping your house and yard in perfect condition are more important than the well being of an animal you've accepted responsibility for, you shouldn't be a dog owner.

He is in the house when we are home, except during meals and sleeptime. He has another dog out with him during the day (that dog is also inside when we are home). He has a pack.

So FFFC aren't even remotely flame free, huh?

lizzyp9112 · June 2014

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@Coozieinmypurse said
So FFFC aren't even remotely flame free, huh?

pudgybunny · June 2014

divinemsbee said:

I am the queen of distractions of having to have multiple sources of entertainment at once and I just got a smart phone. I've always been the person who has two TV stations/shows picked out so that when one goes to commercial I can pick up with the other one (can I tell you how much H enjoys this? Not at all would be the answer). I'll also do this while reading a book or magazine. And pay decent attention to all of them. I tend to have a book or magazine in the living room, a separate one in the downstairs bathroom, and another in the bedroom. It's one reason that we don't have a TV in our bedroom. I may have an issue.

As the worst SAHW in the world, I would love someone to come in and deep clean once a month. I keep the house okay (but H is the king of clutter, so I take no responsibility for the Legos on the dining table), but I hate deep cleaning with the fire of a thousand suns. Washing my blinds sounds like my idea of purgatory. And we have three shedding animals (4 if you count H) and a house built in 1919 that produces dust by itself. I'm lobbying for a cleaning person to come in and do things like scrub grout.

I am also a bad SAHW (I work for a direct sales company so I do work from home). I hate cleaning and DH says I have clutter, which I do, but he does as well. Do not want to clean! What am I doing right now? Bumping and I got sucked into Sister Wives (DARN you bumpies!!).

wishiwaspreggo · June 2014

ToryKate said:

wishiwaspreggo said:

I am one of those women who blames her foul temper on hormones X_X

To my credit, though, I usually recognize my flare ups and keep my thoughts to myself. I have severe progesterage since I'm back on suppositories and I was thisclose to going on a tirade on Facebook yesterday. My friend posted about getting a hermit crab from the beach for her kids but they killed it so she was going to go out and find a turtle. Like, a wild turtle.

I wrote this long comment shaming her for killing wildlife for her kid's entertainment and then when I reread it I decided I was overreacting and deleted before I posted.
I would have said something to her. It is sick to abduct and kill (intentionally or not) a wild animal just so your kid can be happy for 2.5 seconds. That makes me so ragey. I hate people like that. What message does that send to those kids? "your happiness, the same level of which could be attained by letting you watch an extra 5 minutes of TV, is more important the life of an animal"

Yeah, it's pretty sickening

I get letting your kids have a small pet (like a gerbil or lizard) to teach them responsibility. But to just grab an animal from the wild and stick it in a tank? That's really mean.

redheadscu1 · June 2014

My FFFC: DH and I have seperate bedrooms, and I effing love it.

He sleeps in the master bedroom with our dog. I sleep in my own bedroom across from DS's bedroom. If we are able to have another baby, we'll either have to suck it up and sleep in the same room (so we can all be on the second story), or one of us will have to move into the downstairs bedroom. Although for the first 6 months to a year I would have the baby's crib in my room.

We have never shared a room since moving in together. When we were dating and he would sleep at my place, I got pretty tired of waking up in the middle of the night with battle scenes from Lord of the Rings playing in the background. Also he's an insomniac and he also snores like a bear.

He doesn't want to share a room with me either, because he says I'd be the "masturbation overlord."

[Deleted User] · June 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

starbuck27 said:

NotElsie said:

fuzzylogic said:

Last night H told me he was going to resent the new bed in the guest bedroom. He wants me to sleep in the master with him. Well, honey, if you snore as loudly as you do, and you're going to do nothing about it, then I'm going to take care of me.

My health and happiness has to come first once in awhile. So, I don't care if he "resents" the bed or not. He can just suck it up.

Omg, this 100%

I always relocate if there is a snoring issue. I hate waking M up to have him turn over, and it usually doesn't work that great anyway.

I asked if he'd go in the other room every once in awhile, and he said, "It's not my fault, why should I have to suffer?" Um.. excuse me?

He said he'd try nose strips, but he hasn't gone out to buy any.. and he said it is probably partially because of his weight. Yet all he does when he gets home is eat more than he should, and play video games.

I'm not expecting him to work out all the time, or to stop doing things that he enjoys.. but some effort would be nice.

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When DH snores I shake the bed. It's stupid but sometimes he will roll over and stop long enough for me to fall back out. But when he gets too bad I kick his butt out! Why are you the ones having to move?

ETA: Quotes...why you no work right?

I was smacking the shout out of DH last night and nothing. Shaking the bed. LOL. I can't kick him out because he's not waking up, and if I do wake him up, he's going to be all pissy because I woke him up.

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Rofl, I admit that shaking the bed has worked in my favor on a few occasions. But then again, it's made it worse on equal occasions.

ETA. damn quote boxes

ollieinca · June 2014

fuzzylogic said:

WestCoastGirl05 said:

NellyBluth said:

DarcyHermione said:

I'm sad that the confessional hasn't been updated in 2 weeks. All that fuss for nothing.

Every time I check it and see nothing has been posted in two weeks, I chuckle.

Dumb noob confession - I have no idea how to FIND the confessional!! :-/

https://ttgpconfessional.tumblr.com/

holy fuckety fuck.... there is some crazy shit on there. The one about the husband hiring an attorney and the kid not being fed all day? that's fake right?

mommyre · June 2014

I am pretty sure that I am currently obsessed with sex. I think about it entirely too much. I even have a secret pinterest board dedicated to sex. I don't mean porn, I just mean sex with DH, and most of it isn't even TTC related. I mean I am on CD6 nowhere near O.

janda426 · June 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

janda426 said:

For people who leave their dogs roaming around outside on a farm: when it's 90 degrees outside does their "shelter" include air conditioning? Does no one care if their dog over heats or not? Even in the shade it can be hot. I just don't understand why people bother getting a dog if they can't be bothered.

No they don't. Neither do the cows, sheep, chickens, ME.

I grew up without air conditioning in the house. My room was on the second floor on the west side of the house.

Air conditioning is not a requirement for a dog. Access to appropriate shelter is. If we had the fans on in the barn, the dogs usually hung out in there. Or else they usually ended up in the machine shed on the dirt. It was surprisingly cooler in there.

Our dogs were also not pets. They served a purpose and part of that included them being able to roam outdoors. They had plenty of shelter options and access to multiple water sites.

---end quote--

Okay. I'm admittedly biased. If my 55 pound staffie/bulldog mix was left outside in all elements, even with shade, she'd die. It's hard for me to grasp that there are any dogs that can deal with terrible heat. I kind of thought that's what the huge push about keeping dogs out of the heat was about. People can deal with hot temps better than dogs can. This conflicting information is screwing with me.

Can I ask what your dogs did on the farm? I'm curious.

janda426 · June 2014

asoneill said:
Thought of one, since I was watching it the other night:

FFFC: I love the movie Burlesque. It's terrible and campy but I can't help it. "Show Me How You Burlesque" is even in my running mix.

(I can't with the dog stuff right now, so I'm going with bad movies I don't usually admit to watching.)

I am a die hard Cher fan and am obsessed with this movie, I watch it like twice a week. I lost my shit when Cher played Welcome to Burlesque, complete with wig, dancers and same set, at her concert in April. She's so fucking fabulous.

janda426 · June 2014

@CoozieInMyPurse‌ please elaborate on how you "don't advocate putting dogs down." Like you don't believe in it at all in any circumstance?

Cythe · June 2014

@janda426‌ for us it was sheep and cattle herding. They also served as a general protector from various things that came wandering up to the house. Rattlesnakes, skunks, and of course the harmless squirrel. They are also the best at letting you know when someone is coming up your driveway!

janda426 · June 2014

Cythe said:
@janda426‌ for us it was sheep and cattle herding. They also served as a general protector from various things that came wandering up to the house. Rattlesnakes, skunks, and of course the harmless squirrel. They are also the best at letting you know when someone is coming up your driveway!

God I'm so sheltered. I had no idea dogs had a purpose on farms. That makes sense though. I'm so obviously a suburb-ian.

CoozieInMyPurse · June 2014

janda426 said:

@CoozieInMyPurse‌ please elaborate on how you "don't advocate putting dogs down." Like you don't believe in it at all in any circumstance?

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In this case, putting down a healthy dog because of a nuisance issue. I'm fine with putting down an animal that is suffering.

Ladymouse · June 2014

I just cried like a baby over the My Little Pony season 4 finale. WTF is wrong with me?!? (Tirek! The rainbow of light! Everything about G4 that blows G1 away! Discord/Q!)

FitMom3510 · June 2014

janda426 said:

For people who leave their dogs roaming around outside on a farm: when it's 90 degrees outside does their "shelter" include air conditioning? Does no one care if their dog over heats or not? Even in the shade it can be hot. I just don't understand why people bother getting a dog if they can't be bothered.

I live in a place where it gets into the 110's and ppl leave their dogs in the backyard it drives me crazy but animal control doesn't seem to care

FitMom3510 · June 2014

LindsRockies said:

Just so you're all aware, I have lemon bar underneath my fingernails right now. Made them from scratch this morning and I've been scooping the still-hot filling out of the pan with my fingers.

Don't judge.

that sounds amazing! I have been craving a lemon bar for two weeks, just been too lazy to make/get some and I forget when I'm at the store : (

chaysefaith · June 2014

I work from home. We had nasty storms come through yesterday and they knocked out my business Internet. I went in to the office today but got sent home two hours early to "wait for Comcast." I am currently sitting on my patio, working on my tan, drinking a piña colada, and getting paid.

beepity · June 2014

janda426 said:

Oh yay. The doggy wars have begun.
Sorry, between the people wishing death on their dogs, openly admitting to leaving them in unfavorable environments and not giving a shit that they get hit by a car I can't keep my mouth shut. This isn't just arguing over what pet food you feed your dog, these poor dogs are not being taken care of or given love. It's disgusting.

Nobody said we didn't give a shit when they died this way. There were lots of tears. Could these instances have been prevented? Maybe; I wasn't old enough to have all the details. But when you live in the country you don't walk your dog on a leash (unless he's on a check cord when you're training them to hunt). There is no way our dogs would have been HAPPY walking on a leash.

I'm sorry if I have given the impression that I'm ok with dogs getting hit in the road, but it is something that happens and you move on.

Others have elaborated on country/farm dogs and their purpose but I just want to clear the air about this misconception.

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DX (me): Inborn error of metabolism - protein restriction, metabolic formula & weekly blood tests

DNA Results (7/1): DH is NOT a carrier for my genetic disorder!

7/3: Metabolic clinic gave the green light to TTC - holy crap!

DX (me): Inborn error of metabolism - protein restriction, metabolic formula & weekly blood tests

DNA Results (7/1): DH is NOT a carrier for my genetic disorder!

7/3: Metabolic clinic gave the green light to TTC - holy crap!

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