October 2013 Moms

IUD - DH is worried about it

So my DH is pretty useless with care of D. He absolutely refused to take her our of the car seat yesterday. He claims that he is afraid he is going to hurt her. He is a big guy but he needs to get over it.

I was initially thinking of trying for baby #2 at the end of summer. However, with DH being such a child, 2 under 2 would be crazy.

I told him that D will have to be old enough for him to care of, before we start trying again. He was cool with this. Then I mentioned I wanted to get an IUD, and he voiced a fear that it may not be reversable.

Has anyone else's DH voiced a similar fear. I can't do conventional medicated birth control, because of my blood clotting disorder. So my options are basically either condoms or a IUD.

If I remember right I think there is a small risk right?

FWIW, I know DH is a supreme douche canoe. I am very disappointed in him. I understand his fear, but she almost 8 months old now...smh

I wouldn't be surprised to have a CV sighting...lol

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Re: IUD - DH is worried about it

  • His fear is that WHAT may not be reversible? The ability to take the IUD out? If you are concerned with any hormones, look at the Paraguard IUD vs. the Mirena.
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  • megs1409 said:

    His fear is that WHAT may not be reversible? The ability to take the IUD out? If you are concerned with any hormones, look at the Paraguard IUD vs. the Mirena.

    The ability to conceive.
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  • My DH is the same about some stuff with dd. He won't bathe her still, but has stepped up in other areas. The car seat, clothing and changing of non poopy diapers are his good areas. It'll get better, but I did have to tell him he HAD to help. I had no intention of leaving, but told him I could do it by myself, by myself to get his attention.

    On the IUD- paraguard (non-medicated/copper) has been around a long time. I have heard of someone getting pregnant with it inserted, but have not heard of infertility happening with any of our patients. I worked in women's healthcare for 8 years.
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  • This has been a really emotional week for me. Lots of family drama. So maybe I'm jumping the gun delaying TTCing. With my health issues I really wanted to pop out 2 kids quick and be done. However, the lack of help is making me question things.

    @‌stefmurph glad to hear that you never ran across any problems.
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  • I'll tell you my personal experience, if that helps.
    Got an IUD 6 weeks after dd1. Had it in for 5 1/2 years. Had it removed and used condoms until we were ready to try again. Conceived dd2 the first month we tried. No problems here!
  • Just to chime in -- you really have to MAKE your DH help.  He's never going to learn or become less fearful if he's never given the opportunity.  

    I tried to make him do it. He threatened to get back in the car and drive home, instead of shopping at Lowe's. He is VERY stubborn. I should just said let's go home then, but we needed to get a damn ceiling fan. I caved.
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  • I'm sorry, but he sounds completely ridiculous. There is absolutely no excuse for him to not step up and take care of his daughter. You can't be doing this all on your own, he helped make this child he needs to help take care of her.


    ETA: I know that wasn't your question, but you added it. I've seen a ton of comments lately about dad's not doing their share of child raising and it makes no sense to me.
    It is totes redic. I am making no excuses...lol anytime I try to talk about it, or ask him to do something. He just absolutely will not do it. He literally has done nothing but feed a bottle once and hold her. That is it. Every tells me to not give him an option. I never gave him an option to do nothing. I've tried hard to push the subject, but aside from leaving (which won't happen) I got nothing. He is also now afraid of her soft spot.
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  • @KuhaBaby‌

    I didn't grow up with a father. So I was totally abandoned as a young kid. He is still not in my life. I've told him that he needs to spend time with her. So every day when he comes home from work he holds her and plays with her.

    The down side to this is that if she fries instead of figuring out a way to soothe her himself. He hands her back to me. The way he hold her doesn't seem natural. He doesn't try to change things to keep her happy. I want to help him get better, but I don't want to criticize the ONLY thing he does.
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  • @huntjul‌

    He really isn't home that often. I do hope that he will be better once she is older. However, I do fear that there will always be a new excuse.

    I'm not sure how to "force" him to do anything. Do I refuse to change my daughters diapers. What if he just doesn't change her.

    I could just leave the house. Stay away all day, but he is only home during the day on Sundays. I fear it will just turn into an argument. It may be my only option though.
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  • I have said that if he doesn't help me with stuff. We won't be having a 2nd child. He just says whatever. I know he wants another kid though. I think he just says whatever to get under my skin.
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  • If I'm way off base here, please tell me, but it sounds like you're afraid to get into an argument with your H. If there is something that's bothering me in my relationship, especially if it was something as big as him not helping raise DS, I would not hesitate to say something. It may cause some strain in your marriage to bring it up, but I would think that would be better than you two resenting each other and your DD not having a good relationship with her father.

    I've been very vocal about my issues with him. I don't want to get into a heated argument, because I have bad anxiety and I get to upset way to quick. I'm fine with a discussion. What I was saying is if I up and left him with the baby for a day. It would be an argument when I got back home.
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  • Jalee, I like you and you're smart.  If you were an outsider reading this conversation what would you think?


    A marriage is a partnership.  Your child is equal part him and you.  How can he not know how to console her or to be a dad to Delaney?  You and your daughter deserve better.  You from your partner and Delaney from her daddy.  She didn't ask to be brought into this world.  Please do not bring another child into this world if your husband cannot stand up and be a man and take care of the child you already have.  There really is no excuse.
    I agree, we have no plans at this moment of bringing a child into this world. The very few times we have had sex. It was protected.

    I was just wondering if anyone else's spouses were concerned about using an IUD.

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  • edited June 2014
    I have a merina, and the dr told me after removal I would very likely be able to get pregnant again right away. And it's your body! My husband was worried, but came to the dr and got some information and then was cool beans about it all. And I am in the same boat, he works away from home and I do 98% of the work with dd. Nope octopus on having another right away!
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  • @Jalee85‌
    I'm going to ask because I haven't seen it addressed. Is there some sort of history with your husband as to why he's uncomfortable with Delaney? DH and I went through stages with Callie. At first he didn't want to feed her because she wouldn't latch on the the bottle right away for him, then once I showed him, his new excuse was he was worried about her choking. Now he will feed her a bottle, but is uncomfortable when she gags when she eats food pieces. But I'm slowly teaching him and reassuring his actions. He doesn't change poopy diapers, but he has to clean up chunky vomit because I don't do vomit very well. It's slowly getting better, but he had a breakdown of he was afraid he was going to hurt her, drop her, etc. I told him she's going to get hurt, she's not a china doll and I needed his help. I hope you can talk with him or encourage him to help you more.

    As far as the IUD, I wouldn't be too concerned about he infertility aspect. It is a small risk, but has been a safe, effective bcm for years.
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  • @StefMurph‌
    DH is a big boy with a ton of muscles. He literally wrestles cows all year round. I think that he has a fear of being to strong. A good example is he won't have sex with him on top. He is afraid he is going to hurt me. So as ridiculous as it all sounds. I do think he has a legitimate fear of hurting D and myself. He has also never gotten into an altercation in fear of losing his cool and forgetting to hold back. So I feel there is an issue. I wish there was a way to address it. To help solve these issues.
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  • I know you really don't want to hear about your husband being a douche canoe, but I can't help my self. I am also married to a cowboy, who works his ass off and is really strong. Holding a baby and wrestling a calf have nothing to do with each other..... I don't see his problem. Is he scared he is just going to get the urge to flank her and tie her down? Some of the most gentle men I have ever met are cowboys, that's a shit excuse out of him. On the other hand, it sounds like he has a terrible temper and should maybe get some help for that.
  • I know you really don't want to hear about your husband being a douche canoe, but I can't help my self. I am also married to a cowboy, who works his ass off and is really strong. Holding a baby and wrestling a calf have nothing to do with each other..... I don't see his problem. Is he scared he is just going to get the urge to flank her and tie her down? Some of the most gentle men I have ever met are cowboys, that's a shit excuse out of him. On the other hand, it sounds like he has a terrible temper and should maybe get some help for that.

    Well that's my point. He could learn to be gentle, but it's like he doesn't think he can. It's an irrational fear. Not denying that. He isn't just strong he is a BIG guy. Most cowboys I know are strong, but a size comparison to DH look like shrimps. He can't wear cowboy boots because his calf muscles are too large. He dwarfs everyone around him. Also, he is a pretty easy going guy. His friends call him Care Bear. He is a lovable oaf..lol He doesn't have a temper he is just extremely head-strong.

    Once again none of these are good excuses I was just answering @StefMurph‌ 's question. He has always been fearful of being to strong and hurting somebody.
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  • Oh geez, i got nothing then. Hopefully the bigger she gets the more comfortable he is? Sorry to hear he feels that's way. @Jalee85‌
  • Oh geez, i got nothing then. Hopefully the bigger she gets the more comfortable he is? Sorry to hear he feels that's way. @Jalee85‌

    Thanks, I hope he gets better too. I know this whole posts makes DH look bad. He NEEDS to step up. However, he does work a lot. He has regular full-time job Monday - Saturday, the family ranch. We just got done with calving. He didn't see Delaney for more than 30 minutes a day during the 2 months he calved. We live in town. That was when she was going to bed at midnight. He also works as a black jack dealer. Every other Friday and Saturday. So in his defense he isn't around as often as others. However, I know there are other bumpies who DH's still share in the responsibilities even though they work crazy hours. So it's not a great excuse, but I wonder if he was home more often. Maybe he would be more comfortable handling her.
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  • It's reversible… but of course there are things that can happen- like if it implants into your uterus. Rare but it can happen. That being said- take a short girls weekend and he will get over his fear of baby…. it needs to happen for everyones sake. I wouldn't be putting up with that shiz. Id be like "take your daughter out of the car, thank you"
  • Yeah, it sounds like your dh might need some counselling. Thats not a normal fear.

    If leaving her with him for a few hours is an option, try it. Maybe an hour first, then two then four, etc until he gets more comfortable. Esp now that crying for more than 3 minutes isnt akin to torture for the LO's. He has to be able to care for her, she has to know she can count on him and that starts early.

    I am on my second mirena. Risks are minimal and from everything I've read/heard/experienced the reproductive system bounces back quickly. We believe it took about 5 months between accidental falling out (outside influences helped, its rare.) And getting pregnant with A.
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  • huntjul said:


    Jalee85 said:

    @huntjul‌

    He really isn't home that often. I do hope that he will be better once she is older. However, I do fear that there will always be a new excuse.

    I'm not sure how to "force" him to do anything. Do I refuse to change my daughters diapers. What if he just doesn't change her.

    I could just leave the house. Stay away all day, but he is only home during the day on Sundays. I fear it will just turn into an argument. It may be my only option though.

    The Lowe's incident shows you that you can't force him to do something while you're around.  And it sounds like you may be concerned about leaving them alone together while you're away?  Of course I'm not suggesting that you allow your child to go uncared for as a means of forcing DH to do it.  But I would definitely leave him to care for DD while you "run errands" or whatever for a few hours on Sunday (start small, build up).

    If your DH will truly let your child sit in a dirty diaper, unfed, and screaming while you are away from home, and continues to behave in such a way even after being confronted him about it, he should be in baby care classes and therapy.  There is something wrong with a man who refuses to care for his own child to the point of neglect.

    Note there is nothing (besides laziness) wrong with a man who refuses to care for his own child because he knows someone else will
    do it.


    I would sure hope that he would step up if I was gone. I don't think he would completely neglect her. Although, if she popped and he thought "well she will be home soon" I'm guessing he would wait.

    Maybe I should suggest counseling. I know that he will think it's ridiculous, but perhaps it will make him realize that I'm serious.

    I'm a SAHM and I love to take care of my daughter. However, I still shouldn't have to do it all.
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  • Jalee85 said:
    Jalee85 said:
    @huntjul‌ He really isn't home that often. I do hope that he will be better once she is older. However, I do fear that there will always be a new excuse. I'm not sure how to "force" him to do anything. Do I refuse to change my daughters diapers. What if he just doesn't change her. I could just leave the house. Stay away all day, but he is only home during the day on Sundays. I fear it will just turn into an argument. It may be my only option though.
    The Lowe's incident shows you that you can't force him to do something while you're around.  And it sounds like you may be concerned about leaving them alone together while you're away?  Of course I'm not suggesting that you allow your child to go uncared for as a means of forcing DH to do it.  But I would definitely leave him to care for DD while you "run errands" or whatever for a few hours on Sunday (start small, build up).

    If your DH will truly let your child sit in a dirty diaper, unfed, and screaming while you are away from home, and continues to behave in such a way even after being confronted him about it, he should be in baby care classes and therapy.  There is something wrong with a man who refuses to care for his own child to the point of neglect.

    Note there is nothing (besides laziness) wrong with a man who refuses to care for his own child because he knows someone else will do it.
    I would sure hope that he would step up if I was gone. I don't think he would completely neglect her. Although, if she popped and he thought "well she will be home soon" I'm guessing he would wait. Maybe I should suggest counseling. I know that he will think it's ridiculous, but perhaps it will make him realize that I'm serious. I'm a SAHM and I love to take care of my daughter. However, I still shouldn't have to do it all.
    You're right that you shouldn't have to do it all, SAHM or no.  My DH is a SAHD but you bet I do my share of caring for my child--out of want and yes, sometimes out of the obligation to give my DH a break after he's been caring for her without a moment to himself.

    And I don't think counseling is a suggestion out of line here.  There is an issue, and anything you can think of that might help I think you have an obligation to do, if not for your own sake, then for DD's.  I hope that you're able to help him get to know his daughter.  And yeah, in the meantime, I think an IUD is a great BC option.
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  • I meant to add earlier that I had the Mirena IUD before I was pregnant with DS. It took us about 2 months of TTC before I was pregnant. One could argue the first month was sorting out my cycle, so really a month of actual trying. I have nothing but positive things to say about the overall IUD experience. Hugs to you. You're dealing with a lot by yourself.
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  • Jalee85 said:
    I'm sorry, but he sounds completely ridiculous. There is absolutely no excuse for him to not step up and take care of his daughter. You can't be doing this all on your own, he helped make this child he needs to help take care of her.

    ETA: I know that wasn't your question, but you added it. I've seen a ton of comments lately about dad's not doing their share of child raising and it makes no sense to me.
    It is totes redic. I am making no excuses...lol anytime I try to talk about it, or ask him to do something. He just absolutely will not do it. He literally has done nothing but feed a bottle once and hold her. That is it. Every tells me to not give him an option. I never gave him an option to do nothing. I've tried hard to push the subject, but aside from leaving (which won't happen) I got nothing. He is also now afraid of her soft spot.
    1) Yes, but you ARE making excuses for him later in the thread, saying he is a big dude and he works too much. I do hope you see that these things do not excuse him from being a father to your little girl. 

    2) So... he hasn't changed a single diaper in 7+ months? That is quite shocking. I like pp suggestion of baby classes and/or counseling. 

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    Jalee85 said:

    I'm sorry, but he sounds completely ridiculous. There is absolutely no excuse for him to not step up and take care of his daughter. You can't be doing this all on your own, he helped make this child he needs to help take care of her.

    ETA: I know that wasn't your question, but you added it. I've seen a ton of comments lately about dad's not doing their share of child raising and it makes no sense to me.
    It is totes redic. I am making no excuses...lol anytime I try to talk about it, or ask him to do something. He just absolutely will not do it. He literally has done nothing but feed a bottle once and hold her. That is it. Every tells me to not give him an option. I never gave him an option to do nothing. I've tried hard to push the subject, but aside from leaving (which won't happen) I got nothing. He is also now afraid of her soft spot.

    1) Yes, but you ARE making excuses for him later in the thread, saying he is a big dude and he works too much. I do hope you see that these things do not excuse him from being a father to your little girl. 

    2) So... he hasn't changed a single diaper in 7+ months? That is quite shocking. I like pp suggestion of baby classes and/or counseling. 


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    I was specifically asked what I thought the issue was. I answered the question that was asked of me. These are his reasonings not mine. His excuses not mine.

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  • @‌wedding06

    1. My definition of neglect would not be the same as DCFS would consider neglect. He's never taken care of her therefore I have no clue what he would do.

    2. I didn't know guys could get PPA. Something to consider.

    3. He enjoys what he knows of Fatherhood.

    4. I'm not sure what to say on that one. We do not split child duties. Does that equal unhealthy? I said I didn't want to get into a heated argument because I get to emotional to quick. We do have discussions.
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  • You are allowing it, therefore excusing it. I'm a SAHM too. I NEED a break. I just told DH he is going to help with the bedtime routine, ie, put her to bed since she's so clingy to me right now. I understand he works hard, hasn't seen her, all that jazz, but surely spending 30 minutes with her each day and gradually moving up from there would be beneficial for him and Delaney (and you).
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  • StefMurph said:

    You are allowing it, therefore excusing it. I'm a SAHM too. I NEED a break. I just told DH he is going to help with the bedtime routine, ie, put her to bed since she's so clingy to me right now. I understand he works hard, hasn't seen her, all that jazz, but surely spending 30 minutes with her each day and gradually moving up from there would be beneficial for him and Delaney (and you).

    He is a grown man. I can't force him to take D out of her car seat. I stood outside of the car for 5 minutes telling him he needed to try taking her out. Not sure what the hell else I can do.
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  • Jalee85 said:
    Well I asked him to put D to bed tonight. Something easy that can't really be messed up, and he did it. Maybe he realizes that he was being ridiculous yesterday. One can hope.

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