October 2013 Moms

Good touch bad touch

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  • @alylove11‌ I did similar things! It has always been my biggest goal as a parent to make sure my girls have no question how important they are and how much I love them. I don't ever want them to feel like they have to search for it somewhere else to feel validated. And the depression and suicidal thoughts, well, I still battle those to this day. Abuse is something that stays with the abused their whole lunge and shapes the way they see the world because it affects them so young. It is horrible and if anyone ever did this to my girls...well, I am scared what I might do to the abuser. It would be bad.

    Hugs to you!!!!
  • Thanks @Jenball717‌! I'm glad this was posted. It's great to have support from one anther. I still go through bouts of depression, but not as severe. I'm sorry you're battling suicidal thoughts. It is a hard journey to get past what we went through.

    My breakthrough was when I finally decided to forgive my uncle completely. He doesn't know that, but in my heart I do. My uncle is disabled and lives with my grandma. I do not want to ever see him again, but was thinking of writing him a letter. Who knows if I will ever write it or even mail it to him.

    Wanted to share a song that has helped me stay strong through the storms of depression.
    https://youtu.be/LhcnrJvwwPo

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  • alylove11 said:
    Thanks @Jenball717‌! I'm glad this was posted. It's great to have support from one anther. I still go through bouts of depression, but not as severe. I'm sorry you're battling suicidal thoughts. It is a hard journey to get past what we went through. My breakthrough was when I finally decided to forgive my uncle completely. He doesn't know that, but in my heart I do. My uncle is disabled and lives with my grandma. I do not want to ever see him again, but was thinking of writing him a letter. Who knows if I will ever write it or even mail it to him. Wanted to share a song that has helped me stay strong through the storms of depression. https://youtu.be/LhcnrJvwwPo

    Music helps me a lot too, thank you for sharing that song. As far as your forgiveness goes, you are very smart to give up that burden and also very brave. It is a difficult thing to do. I have made a lot of progress in forgiving the person who abused me but a much more difficult time forgiving my mother. Maybe it's misplaced anger. But, I have talked with her and I really don't think she can acknowledge that it went on, let alone her part in it. I think our relationship will always be strained.
  • @jgslr‌ I find it interesting about the correlation between children who wet their pants at a later age that may have been previously abused. I remember wetting my pants constantly in kindergarten. What's the reasoning behind it?

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  • A friend told me about a good book that tries to explain this to little kids without being scary or confusing.

    I Said No!
    www.amazon.com/Said-guide-keeping-private-parts/dp/1878076493/


    We have this, and it's good to use as a conversation-starter.

    Very glad this thread came up. This is such an important issue to address, and to make sure kids know the warning signs at an early(ish) age.
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  • This is what scares me about the "new family member". I don't want to get too specific cause my sn is easy to identify me. (Oddly enough) My H who normally thinks I'm insane about being paranoid, actually agrees with me that he is a bit shady. Because it's family I can't tell everyone he's a fucking creeper don't let my kids near him so I just have to be hyper aware of where they are at all times. I've heard stories about people being abused while all their family is in the next room. I'm not sure how to handle this so I what to drive the point home to ds1 touching is not ok ever! In an age appropriate manner of course.
    I think you should definitely trust your gut and just make sure you or your Husband is always in the room when your child near this new family member. Of course you could be completely wrong about him but why take that chance.
    This is what I have to do about a certain family member, too. I have no "proof" and haven't come out and said anything specific about it, but I am definitely NOT letting them be unsupervised with my children. Really sad and scary that this is how things are.
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  • jgslr said:

    @jgslr‌ What grades do you/have you taught and do they speak to the kids about it in school?

    Oops a little late, I just saw this.

    I've taught 4th grade and high school. Parents wouldn't be too happy about us talking to all the students about this, but they trained is to look for possible signs / red flags. It's easier to spot in elementary (domestic/relationship abuse is another issue i watch for in h.s.). Things like a child constantly wetting their pants (kinder&up), asking to see or showing their privates to other children, and hypersexualized behavior before or during puberty that isn't the norm for the the group. Also, for me, just a gut feeling, ALWAYS trust your gut. If something feels off, it probably is. I was good friends with a school counselor and we had a few students with some issues. It's heartbreaking for such innocence to be stolen.
    Did they teach you what to look for if a student is possibly touching others inappropriatly?? I'm just curious because one of my friends kid is a few years olders than my DS1 and he has always made me uncomfortable with how he interacts with other kids younger than him. For that reason I never leave my kids alone with him and my friend just thinks I'm a helicopter parent.
  • To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids?
    Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
  • To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids?
    Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.

    I would because the kids need to be safe and I don't hold back on anything.

    It's a lot better, in my opinion, to be on alert than to have to go through the pain/emotions of molestation actually happening. Listen to your gut. I had no clue any of the stuff was happening while it was happening. After the fact, I realized there were a few clues that I didn't pick up on. I felt so guilty.
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  • We also have a situation in our family and the parent didn't believe the child. It's one of the very few things I wish I would have known about (when I broke contact with my family for a while) because I would have taken the child to me in Pittsburgh from south Ohio. It is so sad how much this person STILL suffers and how so many people STILL call her a liar about so many things (and that's just crap!! crap!). Thankfully she is now getting some help as an adult.

    And not only would I but I have told other parents who I won't let me children be alone with. No child should be out into that risk!

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  • To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids? Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
    I know that I should, but I honestly haven't figured out how to, just yet. The problem is that it's a close family member, not some distant uncle that everyone already refers to as "creepy" or anything.

    Unfortunately, if I don't approach things in just the right way with my family, they tend to freak out and blame the messenger.
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  • To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids?
    Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.

    I know that I should, but I honestly haven't figured out how to, just yet. The problem is that it's a close family member, not some distant uncle that everyone already refers to as "creepy" or anything.

    Unfortunately, if I don't approach things in just the right way with my family, they tend to freak out and blame the messenger.


    This is my problem too. It's an immediate family member who is always at any of the family gathering or holidays. This side of the family is very close and if I put something like this out their I'm sure it will not be taken well. And god forbid in wrong I don't want to put that out there and him suffer when he is innocent. Ugh I dunno how I could even approach the subject with anyone.
  • @StefMurph‌ @germanpickle‌
    I know I should say something if I suspect but I have no real evidence to prove it other than my creep radar and a few odd moments that threw up red flags. There was no actual touching or whatever cause if that was the case he would be exiled and everyone I know would know what happened.
  • @Herefishy87‌ I would probably removed myself and my child from the situation if not comfortable saying something.
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  • StefMurph said:

    @Herefishy87‌ I would probably removed myself and my child from the situation if not comfortable saying something.

    Yea I think we are going to try and avoid contact and if we can't,y kids will be with me or DH every second.
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