My mom was abused as a child and it caused her some life long issues that she still hasn't addressed. Then I was abused as a child. I have struggled with understanding why she didn't do more to protect me, given that my circumstances were almost identical to hers. But, when I went to her about it, she stayed very hush hush about it and it did not have the effect I expected it to have on my situation. She really didn't address it at all.
This has shaped much of my attitude toward parenting and what I'll do to protect my girls. The cycle stops here with me. No more. It has also shaped my thoughts and decisions on how many kids I want and the space between the kids I have. I want to make sure I have the capacity to fully protect and attend to the kids I have and with the way my brain works, I couldn't handle lots of kids close together and feel like I was doing that.
I also was molested by my uncle from when I can remember (2-3 yrs old?) till I was 12-13. I had major depression in middle school, suicidal thoughts, and almost went through it one summer between middle school. I was told to not tell anyone because I would get in trouble. The abnormal became normal to me. I used to chase boys like crazy because I wanted attention, to be loved. My family couldn't love me enough. I didn't feel wanted or needed. It took me awhile to get over this.
CPS came to my school and pulled me out of class to talk to me about it. No clue on how they knew about it. I truly believe this was an act of God. I was able to get counseling which helped me tremendously.
I used to not speak about it because I was embarrassed and ashamed. I'm very open about it now to help make people aware of how sick people are, and to give hope and encouragement to the survivors.
My daughter will know at a very young age about what's appropriate and what's not. I will share with her my story when she's older.
@alylove11 I did similar things! It has always been my biggest goal as a parent to make sure my girls have no question how important they are and how much I love them. I don't ever want them to feel like they have to search for it somewhere else to feel validated. And the depression and suicidal thoughts, well, I still battle those to this day. Abuse is something that stays with the abused their whole lunge and shapes the way they see the world because it affects them so young. It is horrible and if anyone ever did this to my girls...well, I am scared what I might do to the abuser. It would be bad.
Thanks @Jenball717! I'm glad this was posted. It's great to have support from one anther. I still go through bouts of depression, but not as severe. I'm sorry you're battling suicidal thoughts. It is a hard journey to get past what we went through.
My breakthrough was when I finally decided to forgive my uncle completely. He doesn't know that, but in my heart I do. My uncle is disabled and lives with my grandma. I do not want to ever see him again, but was thinking of writing him a letter. Who knows if I will ever write it or even mail it to him.
Wanted to share a song that has helped me stay strong through the storms of depression. https://youtu.be/LhcnrJvwwPo
Thanks @Jenball717! I'm glad this was posted. It's great to have support from one anther. I still go through bouts of depression, but not as severe. I'm sorry you're battling suicidal thoughts. It is a hard journey to get past what we went through.
My breakthrough was when I finally decided to forgive my uncle completely. He doesn't know that, but in my heart I do. My uncle is disabled and lives with my grandma. I do not want to ever see him again, but was thinking of writing him a letter. Who knows if I will ever write it or even mail it to him.
Wanted to share a song that has helped me stay strong through the storms of depression.
https://youtu.be/LhcnrJvwwPo
Music helps me a lot too, thank you for sharing that song. As far as your forgiveness goes, you are very smart to give up that burden and also very brave. It is a difficult thing to do. I have made a lot of progress in forgiving the person who abused me but a much more difficult time forgiving my mother. Maybe it's misplaced anger. But, I have talked with her and I really don't think she can acknowledge that it went on, let alone her part in it. I think our relationship will always be strained.
@jgslr I find it interesting about the correlation between children who wet their pants at a later age that may have been previously abused. I remember wetting my pants constantly in kindergarten. What's the reasoning behind it?
I have an 18 year old (stepson) who lived with his dad and I since he was 5. He was molested by his stepdad (bio mom's husband) and told me one day before 2nd grade. As far as I know it was a two year time frame. I immediately took action and made sure he was safe. We went to the local authorities and made the report. It took several years for them to arrest the guy. DS's mom never helped with the prosecution and avoided the district attorney --so I'm pretty sure she knew what was going on. She is no longer (and has not been for a long time) in ds's life. The guy is still in prison--thankfully he took the plea deal and we didn't have to testify.
I'm shocked at the number of parents who don't believe their children. I had always stressed to my dh's parents that secret telling was a huge no-no for small children (they used to sit in the living room and whisper in each other's ears), but they thought I was nuts (and a young 20 something who didn't know anything).
When I worked for Planned Parenthood, we had a 14 year old who came in accompanied by A foster parent and a detective because she had been molested by her mom's boyfriend and his brother. She had told her mom and she didn't believe her. The mom thought it was a jealousy thing and the daughter just wanted her boyfriend. It took this young lady getting pregnant by one of them for her to be removed from the situation. For this reason, I am firmly pro choice.
This is what scares me about the "new family member". I don't want to get too specific cause my sn is easy to identify me. (Oddly enough) My H who normally thinks I'm insane about being paranoid, actually agrees with me that he is a bit shady. Because it's family I can't tell everyone he's a fucking creeper don't let my kids near him so I just have to be hyper aware of where they are at all times. I've heard stories about people being abused while all their family is in the next room. I'm not sure how to handle this so I what to drive the point home to ds1 touching is not ok ever! In an age appropriate manner of course.
I think you should definitely trust your gut and just make sure you or your Husband is always in the room when your child near this new family member. Of course you could be completely wrong about him but why take that chance.
This is what I have to do about a certain family member, too. I have no "proof" and haven't come out and said anything specific about it, but I am definitely NOT letting them be unsupervised with my children. Really sad and scary that this is how things are.
@jgslr What grades do you/have you taught and do they speak to the kids about it in school?
Oops a little late, I just saw this.
I've taught 4th grade and high school. Parents wouldn't be too happy about us talking to all the students about this, but they trained is to look for possible signs / red flags. It's easier to spot in elementary (domestic/relationship abuse is another issue i watch for in h.s.). Things like a child constantly wetting their pants (kinder&up), asking to see or showing their privates to other children, and hypersexualized behavior before or during puberty that isn't the norm for the the group. Also, for me, just a gut feeling, ALWAYS trust your gut. If something feels off, it probably is. I was good friends with a school counselor and we had a few students with some issues. It's heartbreaking for such innocence to be stolen.
Did they teach you what to look for if a student is possibly touching others inappropriatly?? I'm just curious because one of my friends kid is a few years olders than my DS1 and he has always made me uncomfortable with how he interacts with other kids younger than him. For that reason I never leave my kids alone with him and my friend just thinks I'm a helicopter parent.
To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids? Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids? Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
I would because the kids need to be safe and I don't hold back on anything.
It's a lot better, in my opinion, to be on alert than to have to go through the pain/emotions of molestation actually happening. Listen to your gut. I had no clue any of the stuff was happening while it was happening. After the fact, I realized there were a few clues that I didn't pick up on. I felt so guilty.
We also have a situation in our family and the parent didn't believe the child. It's one of the very few things I wish I would have known about (when I broke contact with my family for a while) because I would have taken the child to me in Pittsburgh from south Ohio. It is so sad how much this person STILL suffers and how so many people STILL call her a liar about so many things (and that's just crap!! crap!). Thankfully she is now getting some help as an adult.
And not only would I but I have told other parents who I won't let me children be alone with. No child should be out into that risk!
To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids?
Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
I know that I should, but I honestly haven't figured out how to, just yet. The problem is that it's a close family member, not some distant uncle that everyone already refers to as "creepy" or anything.
Unfortunately, if I don't approach things in just the right way with my family, they tend to freak out and blame the messenger.
To everyone who has the suspicious family member, would you ever tell anyone else in the family about your feelings if they had or have kids? Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
I know that I should, but I honestly haven't figured out how to, just yet. The problem is that it's a close family member, not some distant uncle that everyone already refers to as "creepy" or anything.
Unfortunately, if I don't approach things in just the right way with my family, they tend to freak out and blame the messenger.
This is my problem too. It's an immediate family member who is always at any of the family gathering or holidays. This side of the family is very close and if I put something like this out their I'm sure it will not be taken well. And god forbid in wrong I don't want to put that out there and him suffer when he is innocent. Ugh I dunno how I could even approach the subject with anyone.
@StefMurph@germanpickle I know I should say something if I suspect but I have no real evidence to prove it other than my creep radar and a few odd moments that threw up red flags. There was no actual touching or whatever cause if that was the case he would be exiled and everyone I know would know what happened.
Re: Good touch bad touch
My mom was abused as a child and it caused her some life long issues that she still hasn't addressed. Then I was abused as a child. I have struggled with understanding why she didn't do more to protect me, given that my circumstances were almost identical to hers. But, when I went to her about it, she stayed very hush hush about it and it did not have the effect I expected it to have on my situation. She really didn't address it at all.
This has shaped much of my attitude toward parenting and what I'll do to protect my girls. The cycle stops here with me. No more. It has also shaped my thoughts and decisions on how many kids I want and the space between the kids I have. I want to make sure I have the capacity to fully protect and attend to the kids I have and with the way my brain works, I couldn't handle lots of kids close together and feel like I was doing that.
CPS came to my school and pulled me out of class to talk to me about it. No clue on how they knew about it. I truly believe this was an act of God. I was able to get counseling which helped me tremendously.
I used to not speak about it because I was embarrassed and ashamed. I'm very open about it now to help make people aware of how sick people are, and to give hope and encouragement to the survivors.
My daughter will know at a very young age about what's appropriate and what's not. I will share with her my story when she's older.
Hugs to you!!!!
My breakthrough was when I finally decided to forgive my uncle completely. He doesn't know that, but in my heart I do. My uncle is disabled and lives with my grandma. I do not want to ever see him again, but was thinking of writing him a letter. Who knows if I will ever write it or even mail it to him.
Wanted to share a song that has helped me stay strong through the storms of depression.
Music helps me a lot too, thank you for sharing that song. As far as your forgiveness goes, you are very smart to give up that burden and also very brave. It is a difficult thing to do. I have made a lot of progress in forgiving the person who abused me but a much more difficult time forgiving my mother. Maybe it's misplaced anger. But, I have talked with her and I really don't think she can acknowledge that it went on, let alone her part in it. I think our relationship will always be strained.
I'm shocked at the number of parents who don't believe their children. I had always stressed to my dh's parents that secret telling was a huge no-no for small children (they used to sit in the living room and whisper in each other's ears), but they thought I was nuts (and a young 20 something who didn't know anything).
When I worked for Planned Parenthood, we had a 14 year old who came in accompanied by A foster parent and a detective because she had been molested by her mom's boyfriend and his brother. She had told her mom and she didn't believe her. The mom thought it was a jealousy thing and the daughter just wanted her boyfriend. It took this young lady getting pregnant by one of them for her to be removed from the situation. For this reason, I am firmly pro choice.
I Said No!
www.amazon.com/Said-guide-keeping-private-parts/dp/1878076493/
We have this, and it's good to use as a conversation-starter.
Very glad this thread came up. This is such an important issue to address, and to make sure kids know the warning signs at an early(ish) age.
This is what I have to do about a certain family member, too. I have no "proof" and haven't come out and said anything specific about it, but I am definitely NOT letting them be unsupervised with my children. Really sad and scary that this is how things are.
Luckily we are the only ones who have kids on this side of the family but that will probably change with in the next few years.
It's a lot better, in my opinion, to be on alert than to have to go through the pain/emotions of molestation actually happening. Listen to your gut. I had no clue any of the stuff was happening while it was happening. After the fact, I realized there were a few clues that I didn't pick up on. I felt so guilty.
And not only would I but I have told other parents who I won't let me children be alone with. No child should be out into that risk!
Unfortunately, if I don't approach things in just the right way with my family, they tend to freak out and blame the messenger.
Unfortunately, if I don't approach things in just the right way with my family, they tend to freak out and blame the messenger.
This is my problem too. It's an immediate family member who is always at any of the family gathering or holidays. This side of the family is very close and if I put something like this out their I'm sure it will not be taken well. And god forbid in wrong I don't want to put that out there and him suffer when he is innocent. Ugh I dunno how I could even approach the subject with anyone.
I know I should say something if I suspect but I have no real evidence to prove it other than my creep radar and a few odd moments that threw up red flags. There was no actual touching or whatever cause if that was the case he would be exiled and everyone I know would know what happened.