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anyone else?

SunshinehippymamaSunshinehippymama member
edited May 2014 in November 2014 Moms
JUST wanted to know if there is anyone else refusing western medicine and doing a home birth. I get called crazy for it when people ask about my birth plans, but people in my area are extremely uninformed about birthing options and homeopathic medicine as there aren't many options in my area.
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  • wildflower75wildflower75 member
    I wanted and planned for a natural birth at the hospital no drugs etc.. BUT  I found out at week 36 that I had Group B Strep. So that in addition to my GD made it so that when I went to the hospital when my water broke (I was only at 1 cm) they immediately gave me cervidil, that didn't work and my baby's heart rate was dropping and they later gave me pitocin. I never progressed passed 1 cm and so I am thankful that I wasn't at home because after 24 hours passing after my water breaking it was urgent to get the baby out by C-section. (I was 37 at the time).

    I say all that to say that I wish I could have had a home birth but I choose against being at home because of my age and I really wish I could have had a natural birth but it just didn't work out for me and in the end no matter what we plan for; the baby coming out healthy and your health is what is most important. Don't be upset if it doesn't go according to plan and if you are at home be sure that you can get to a hospital quickly if you need to! 
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  • SunshinehippymamaSunshinehippymama member
    FhSTAR81 said:

    I would say you are uniformed telling people who are suffering from extreme morning sickness to not take medicines to protect themselves and their growing child. It's fine to want a home birth and a med free pregnancy but being arrogant about it is no better than people telling you you're crazy for wanting those things.

    never said i was telling anyone to do anything, just said that i get called crazy for not taking drugs (despite extreme nausea, migraines, back pain, and a few other things) or wanting to give birth in a place where people feel its necessary to control your every move lol. Good way to make a fool of yourself by jumping to assumptions and getting your drama fix on someone looking for support when she had gotten nonee. Yuck.
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  • SunshinehippymamaSunshinehippymama member
    mb314 said:

    Check out the Natural Birth board on here for support.

    I'm hoping for natural birth (I delivered naturally with DS), and I see a certified nurse midwife , but home birth isn't for me.  I think it's great if you decide it is for you and have a great, well trained support system for your home birth. 

    I took Bradley classes and I really enjoyed them, and I thought it trained me super well for natural birth.  I didn't have a doula, and didn't feel like I needed one because my hospital was really natural birth friendly. 

     I found when pregnant with DS, that it was often best to say less to people about my birth choices.  It's not really their business and it was tiring to have to defend my choices. 

    Hospitals in my area are extremely controlling about how and where you birth, no water births, no positions other than laying on your back, pitocin is required for delivering the placenta, drugs are pushed from square one, breast feeding doesn't happen for at LEAST 10 minutes, and about 50 other things that i don't want to get into. And for my personal self i can't get over that, and anyone i tell i want a natural pregnancy and birth including in my family tells me I'm insane because its still really taboo here to have a midwife and to actually KNOW about birth and the fact that its a super natural process. Esp as a trained birth Doula, a master of my art, knowing how many options there are and choosing the one that scares me the most would be insane to me. But no. Nope I'm crazy for wanting to let my body tell me what i need. I'd never tell someone that they are making the wrong decision for how they choose to birth, even if i did disagree, its my JOB literally my life career to be completely neutral :/. I wish we had birthing centers and midwives around here! Nope, one hospital, 3 obs, a midwife that covers a 500 mile radius, and i am the only doula in at least 50 miles.
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    FhSTAR81 said:

    I don't look like a fool, I didn't even say you were wrong for wanting those things. I said calling people uniformed is just as rude as someone calling you crazy for wanting them. However after reading your other post where you call c-sections mutilating your body, I have no desire to talk with you. I wasn't even rude in my first post to you

    I thought it was quite rude. And most people around here ARE extremely uninformed as nobody knows any other birthing options, ESP in my age group. And i never said anyone was mutilating their body, i said obs rather mutilate your body when its unnecessary because a labor is lasting too long. Never said getting a c section is wrong lol. You and your misinterpretations and assumptions.
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  • SunshinehippymamaSunshinehippymama member
    Yes, i did say they were uninformed, because I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about people in MY TOWN who are infact uninformed that there are other options, because they literally DON'T KNOW and home births and homeopathic medicine is considered taboo. Good lord poeple.

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    Never said it was mutilated to save your child. but nvm, if you want to continue to assume and put my words in a contex that they were not used in and never meant to be then that is your problem and you can continue feeling personally attacked by why i talk about things. :) i forgot how sensitive pregnancy makes people. My bad.
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  • SunshinehippymamaSunshinehippymama member
    Face+palm lol this is definitely not the place for me. I forget that grown women love to argue about really stupid stuff. Good luck with your pregnancies. Happy birthing.
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    lol
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  • runningmama14runningmama14 member
    Anyone else notice the dirty edit in the op?
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  • SunshinehippymamaSunshinehippymama member
    The edit is how it was intended to be read because that's how it sounded in my head when i wrote the original. I forget that people that don't actually know me tend to assume I'm a just an asshole because i have an opinion on things like birth and putting synthetic drugs in my body. That and the way i type is a lot different from the way i talk and nobody ever reads things the way i talk -.- and its extremely annoying. That's why i don't talk to people via the internet.
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  • PineApple85PineApple85 member
    edited May 2014
    Sunshinehippymama said:
    The edit is how it was intended to be read because that's how it sounded in my head when i wrote the original. I forget that people that don't actually know me tend to assume I'm a just an asshole because i have an opinion on things like birth and putting synthetic drugs in my body. That and the way i type is a lot different from the way i talk and nobody ever reads things the way i talk -.- and its extremely annoying. That's why i don't talk to people via the internet.
    I suck at words in text, too; but, then why did you blame the reactions you are apparently used to (and therefore should expect) on pregnancy hormones?  You don't think that's insulting to other women who also have an opinion that might happen to be different than yours?
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    PineApple85 said:


    Sunshinehippymama said:

    The edit is how it was intended to be read because that's how it sounded in my head when i wrote the original. I forget that people that don't actually know me tend to assume I'm a just an asshole because i have an opinion on things like birth and putting synthetic drugs in my body. That and the way i type is a lot different from the way i talk and nobody ever reads things the way i talk -.- and its extremely annoying. That's why i don't talk to people via the internet.

    I suck at words in text, too; but, then why did you blame the reactions you are apparently used to (and therefore should expect) on pregnancy hormones?  You don't think that's insulting to other women who also have an opinion that might happen to be different than yours?

    Ahh yes, because hormones usually make people lash out, and when someone... Well a pregnant someone gets super defensive i automatically ASSume that its hormones making them grouchy or sensitive. Because of course (note sarcasm) how could anyone assume I'm.actually an asshole unless they are just overly sensitive and hormonal. the only person i actually talk to for the most part is my other half and goodness knows my hormones talk to him more than i do xD so of course i would make that assumption. And also, just because it said "they call me crazy and i call them uniformed" doesn't ACTUALLY mean that i directly called anyone uninformed lol typing in metaphor gets you in trouble so I'm noticing.

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    runningmama14 said:

    Sunshinehippymama said:

    PineApple85 said:


    Sunshinehippymama said:

    The edit is how it was intended to be read because that's how it sounded in my head when i wrote the original. I forget that people that don't actually know me tend to assume I'm a just an asshole because i have an opinion on things like birth and putting synthetic drugs in my body. That and the way i type is a lot different from the way i talk and nobody ever reads things the way i talk -.- and its extremely annoying. That's why i don't talk to people via the internet.

    I suck at words in text, too; but, then why did you blame the reactions you are apparently used to (and therefore should expect) on pregnancy hormones?  You don't think that's insulting to other women who also have an opinion that might happen to be different than yours?
    Ahh yes, because hormones usually make people lash out, and when someone... Well a pregnant someone gets super defensive i automatically ASSume that its hormones making them grouchy or sensitive. Because of course (note sarcasm) how could anyone assume I'm.actually an asshole unless they are just overly sensitive and hormonal. the only person i actually talk to for the most part is my other half and goodness knows my hormones talk to him more than i do xD so of course i would make that assumption. And also, just because it said "they call me crazy and i call them uniformed" doesn't ACTUALLY mean that i directly called anyone uninformed lol typing in metaphor gets you in trouble so I'm noticing.

    "Life it's like a box of chocolates" is a metaphor. "They call me crazy and I call them uninformed" is not.

    Actually according to the SPECIFIC definition of a metaphor yes, it is a metaphor lol

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  • runningmama14runningmama14 member
    Sunshinehippymama said:

    runningmama14 said:

    Sunshinehippymama said:

    PineApple85 said:


    Sunshinehippymama said:

    The edit is how it was intended to be read because that's how it sounded in my head when i wrote the original. I forget that people that don't actually know me tend to assume I'm a just an asshole because i have an opinion on things like birth and putting synthetic drugs in my body. That and the way i type is a lot different from the way i talk and nobody ever reads things the way i talk -.- and its extremely annoying. That's why i don't talk to people via the internet.

    I suck at words in text, too; but, then why did you blame the reactions you are apparently used to (and therefore should expect) on pregnancy hormones?  You don't think that's insulting to other women who also have an opinion that might happen to be different than yours?
    Ahh yes, because hormones usually make people lash out, and when someone... Well a pregnant someone gets super defensive i automatically ASSume that its hormones making them grouchy or sensitive. Because of course (note sarcasm) how could anyone assume I'm.actually an asshole unless they are just overly sensitive and hormonal. the only person i actually talk to for the most part is my other half and goodness knows my hormones talk to him more than i do xD so of course i would make that assumption. And also, just because it said "they call me crazy and i call them uniformed" doesn't ACTUALLY mean that i directly called anyone uninformed lol typing in metaphor gets you in trouble so I'm noticing.

    "Life it's like a box of chocolates" is a metaphor. "They call me crazy and I call them uninformed" is not.
    Actually according to the SPECIFIC definition of a metaphor yes, it is a metaphor lol



    What SPECIFIC definition would that be?
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    A word or a phrase that is applied to an action out an object that is not intended to be literally applicable
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  • KTgatorKTgator member
    @runningmama14‌ it's actually a simile ;) says the literature teacher in me

    To the op: I think your tone is what threw people off-- I get the crazy looks too when I mention my birth plans, but the word "uninformed" just doesn't come off as kind/ understanding of the choices that others make.
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    KTgator said:

    @runningmama14‌ it's actually a simile ;) says the literature teacher in me

    To the op: I think your tone is what threw people off-- I get the crazy looks too when I mention my birth plans, but the word "uninformed" just doesn't come off as kind/ understanding of the choices that others make.


    Oooo that's also my bad :) forgive me, its been done years since i was in an English class lol. My tone when i type is a lot different to other people than it is in my head lol my SO has mentioned that a few times, but knows me well enough to know that i never intend to lol. and its truly a misunderstanding, they actually ARE uninformed, out of all the birds I've attended as a doula, when asked they all were unaware that There were any other options, and most of the mamas also said if they would have known.at the beginning of their pregnancy and had studdied up on it more they would have done it differently. But that is also the type of clientele i draw in. Believe me when i say, its not a matter of lack of compassion or understanding.
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  • KTgatorKTgator member
    I didn't know anything about birth in general much less natural birth until the end of my pregnancy with my daughter (I was grossly uninformed), and I chose not to seek out that option. I ended up with an unnecessary csec (dr pretty much lied and said that I had a narrow pubic arch and that baby would never drop resulting in most likely a difficult labor and emergency csec-- really he just knew he was heading out of town the next week. I had a scheduled csec at 39 weeks 4 days! After my recovery is when I began to research birth to prepare for the next time. I had horrible PPA/ ppd after the birth of my daughter and wanted a more drug free approach to childbirth for the subsequent births.
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    runningmama14 said:

    @Kristy774‌, it was not a metaphor. That's apparently an acceptable retraction of any statement, so I just wanted to be clear.

    @KTgator, good point. Life is a box of chocolates is a metaphor :-)

    Maybe I should go back and dirty delete so that what I meant to say is there...

    @runningmama14‌ I'm confused, I didn't say it was a metaphor.
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    And I am by NO means against csec and am totally okay with having one again if it is medically necessary. I just felted tricked by my ob bc I didn't really have a birth plan and was too scared to question the dr. I found out later that he does this to just about all his patients-- one of the highest section rates in our very large city, and his hospital does have the highest section rate. They were even joking during delivery about how fast it would be bc "he's the fastest csec dr at the hospital and you'll be in recovery in under 40 min."
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    Kristy774 said:

    runningmama14 said:

    @Kristy774‌, it was not a metaphor. That's apparently an acceptable retraction of any statement, so I just wanted to be clear.

    @KTgator, good point. Life is a box of chocolates is a metaphor :-)

    Maybe I should go back and dirty delete so that what I meant to say is there...

    @runningmama14‌ I'm confused, I didn't say it was a metaphor.
    @Kristy774‌, sorry! I was just being a smartass :-)

    Eta would have been clearer if I had said "don't worry, I won't come back later and claim it was a metaphor if someone gets all butthurt about what I said"
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    KTgator said:

    I didn't know anything about birth in general much less natural birth until the end of my pregnancy with my daughter (I was grossly uninformed), and I chose not to seek out that option. I ended up with an unnecessary csec (dr pretty much lied and said that I had a narrow pubic arch and that baby would never drop resulting in most likely a difficult labor and emergency csec-- really he just knew he was heading out of town the next week. I had a scheduled csec at 39 weeks 4 days! After my recovery is when I began to research birth to prepare for the next time. I had horrible PPA/ ppd after the birth of my daughter and wanted a more drug free approach to childbirth for the subsequent births.

    This sound very similar to what happened to me. I was told my hips were to narrow, and it would be almost impossible for me to deliver my baby vaginally. I was 39w 3d and was not dilated and she induced me. Mind you she had scheduled it 3 weeks before. I ended up getting that c section that she wanted me to get. Definitely going to talk to this new doctor about different options.
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  • KTgatorKTgator member
    @sweety_angel94‌ :( I hate that you had that experience, too-- makes me so angry to know this is commonly done! I felt so violated when I learned that I really should not have consented. I was 25 and healthy with zero medical issues. Now I'm fighting an uphill battle to try to have a VBAC. I hope your new dr is understanding of your concerns! Thoughts and prayers :)
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  • Kristy774Kristy774 member
    runningmama14 said:

    Kristy774 said:

    runningmama14 said:

    @Kristy774‌, it was not a metaphor. That's apparently an acceptable retraction of any statement, so I just wanted to be clear.

    @KTgator, good point. Life is a box of chocolates is a metaphor :-)

    Maybe I should go back and dirty delete so that what I meant to say is there...

    @runningmama14‌ I'm confused, I didn't say it was a metaphor.
    @Kristy774‌, sorry! I was just being a smartass :-)

    Eta would have been clearer if I had said "don't worry, I won't come back later and claim it was a metaphor if someone gets all butthurt about what I said"
    Ooooook lol now I get it! I'm running on no sleep the past 3 days so I'm a little slow tonight!
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  • sweety_angel94sweety_angel94 member
    @KTgator I am right there with you :( My first appointment the MW told me that I had less than 50% chance of be able to deliver this baby because I had gotten a c section. At least she told me if I wanted to try again that it would be very different this time around, and more options. I hope that you have a better time this time as well thoughts and prayers with you also.
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