October 2014 Moms

SAHM, working hubby, night schedule????

I'm currently an RN and will be cutting back to working a few shifts per month on weekends after baby is here. Hubby works long hours during the week. This weekend I brought up the baby sleeping in a bassinet in the bedroom for several months and he acted completely clueless of this and freaked out. He said he would have to sleep upstairs in another bedroom if this was the plan because he "can't afford" to be exhausted all day at work. I asked if he planned on helping with nighttime routine at all and he said since he would be the one working I would have to take over and he could give me a break on weekends.

This seriously hurt my feelings and I don't know how to react. I realize we're lucky for me to cut back working so much and stay at home without daycare costs... But sleep in totally separate bedrooms for 4-6 months??? Didn't expect that reaction. I don't want to feel like I'm in this raising a baby thing all on my own because I'll be a SAHM. I expected dads to naturally expect for the first few months to be rough on us BOTH at times. He is a very light sleeper as am I ... I just don't want to feel alone and unsupported.

Other SAHM's: what is your night time routine with dad??

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  • I would have been super upset too if my husband reacted that way.

    Were in a similar situation - I'll be working from home but he'll be the one meeting with clients, going to court, etc. I expect to take on the majority of the late night stuff so he can function somewhat well rested, but he's definitely not off the hook. Especially he first few weeks.

    We are limiting the time baby is in our room to help... But the nursery is literally 2 steps away so I'm ok with that.
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  • DH and I have agreed that he would get up with me. He is going to lose some sleep but he is willing to do that. I plan on having a bassinet in our room and then after a while start the transfer to the nursery. H gave me a hard time about that and I got upset. I plan on both pumping and bf so that H can help me out at night.
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  • Well at first DH would pretty much always sleep through the baby waking up. Also if you are nursing you will have to wake up and feed the baby which can take up to 40 minutes and there really isn't much your DH will be able to do. If DD was just crying and I was feeling overwhelmed I would wake DH up. We did have DD in our room and it was never a problem for DH but he is a pretty heavy sleeper. Now if DD wakes up and when she was waking up a couple times a night I was pretty much always the one who got up with her. I could sleep during the day when she slept. Idk if it will be different this time since I will have DD up all day. But in general if you're nursing you will be getting up with the baby every time at least at first. Sometime however if I am feeling super tired and DD just needed her paci stuck back in I will send DH and he does it without a complaint. 
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  • I am part-time with flexible hours. Baby will stay in our room for a few weeks because we will have family visiting and sleeping in the nursery. After that, baby will sleep in a crib in its room. I'm not sure yet if I'll crash on the bed in there or sleep in our room.

    Remember it's a joint decision who sleeps where and you have plenty of time to discuss options. And even if you take more of the night shift, that doesn't mean he should be completely off the hook. My H is more of a night owl than me so I always would go to bed early and have him take the first shift with our babies. That way, I get a few uninterrupted hours at the beginning of the night then he gets about six hours.


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  • DH and I have agreed that he would get up with me. He is going to lose some sleep but he is willing to do that. I plan on having a bassinet in our room and then after a while start the transfer to the nursery. H gave me a hard time about that and I got upset. I plan on both pumping and bf so that H can help me out at night.
    You do realize that in the first few weeks, well months really, if your DH gets up and feeds the baby a bottle that means you have to get up and do a full pumping or else your body will think it missed a feeding and your supply will take a hit which can be really hard to come back from and you end up spending way more time pumping trying to increase your supply. BF in the middle of the night is way better then having DH give a bottle and you pumping IMO. 
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  • My husband also works 3rd shift from 8pm to 8am 4 nights a week.  In the beginning my husband was worried about being a light sleeper but never did he say he would sleep in another room.  I might have nut punched him if he had.  I would just tell him "You helped make this baby you get to help raise it. Just because I stay at home does not mean that you get off scot free. Sorry uh uh."

    Babies are a lot of hard work. The best way to meet all of their needs are with team work. Now is the best time to get it worked out.

    For us in the newborn stage this is what we did. I BF so we kept the baby in room with us. If the baby woke up I would BF then DH would change his diaper, reswaddle and put him back to bed.  If our son was having trouble going right back to sleep we would switch off.   Sometimes if it was a particularly hard night we would try to work out a time for one of us to get a nap in that day. 

    I will say that even now, it feels as if many times I am parenting alone. My husband is very helpful, but he does sleep during the day so there is no down time for me. My husband wakes up a few hours early and helps me do bath/dinner/lets me get a shower ect. But it is certainly a juggling act. We have to constantly talk about what we each need that day. 
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  • aander6 said:
    DH and I have agreed that he would get up with me. He is going to lose some sleep but he is willing to do that. I plan on having a bassinet in our room and then after a while start the transfer to the nursery. H gave me a hard time about that and I got upset. I plan on both pumping and bf so that H can help me out at night.
    You do realize that in the first few weeks, well months really, if your DH gets up and feeds the baby a bottle that means you have to get up and do a full pumping or else your body will think it missed a feeding and your supply will take a hit which can be really hard to come back from and you end up spending way more time pumping trying to increase your supply. BF in the middle of the night is way better then having DH give a bottle and you pumping IMO. 
    But it isn't crazy to think that DH can go get the baby and bring it to the bed, chair, whatever for feedings.  DH did this for me, when DD would wake up he would go get her and bring her into the room where I nursed (until we we on formula) then go back to bed.  It gave me a minute to get situated and he was helping.  Once we went to bottles (formula) we split the overnight feedings.
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    DH and I have agreed that he would get up with me. He is going to lose some sleep but he is willing to do that. I plan on having a bassinet in our room and then after a while start the transfer to the nursery. H gave me a hard time about that and I got upset. I plan on both pumping and bf so that H can help me out at night.

    You do realize that in the first few weeks, well months really, if your DH gets up and feeds the baby a bottle that means you have to get up and do a full pumping or else your body will think it missed a feeding and your supply will take a hit which can be really hard to come back from and you end up spending way more time pumping trying to increase your supply. BF in the middle of the night is way better then having DH give a bottle and you pumping IMO. 

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  • Our plan, which I'm aware could drastically change when shit hits the fan, is that I'll be the one getting up during the night. Baby will sleep in our room, in a bassinet, for 8ish weeks. DH might be disturbed, but can roll over and goo back to sleep. Since he'll be the only one working and I can nap when baby naps during the day, I don't think it's fair too expect him to get up in the middle of the night. I want him fully functional and performing well at work! Weekends are another story though.

    I do think it's reasonable for your H to get up and help when you might have a shift/on his darts off and I don't know about the whole sleeping in another room thing. When the baby wakes, you could take it to another room and cause minimal disturbance to H's sleep.

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  • aander6 said:
    DH and I have agreed that he would get up with me. He is going to lose some sleep but he is willing to do that. I plan on having a bassinet in our room and then after a while start the transfer to the nursery. H gave me a hard time about that and I got upset. I plan on both pumping and bf so that H can help me out at night.
    You do realize that in the first few weeks, well months really, if your DH gets up and feeds the baby a bottle that means you have to get up and do a full pumping or else your body will think it missed a feeding and your supply will take a hit which can be really hard to come back from and you end up spending way more time pumping trying to increase your supply. BF in the middle of the night is way better then having DH give a bottle and you pumping IMO. 
    But it isn't crazy to think that DH can go get the baby and bring it to the bed, chair, whatever for feedings.  DH did this for me, when DD would wake up he would go get her and bring her into the room where I nursed (until we we on formula) then go back to bed.  It gave me a minute to get situated and he was helping.  Once we went to bottles (formula) we split the overnight feedings.
    No I completely agree with this and once we switched to formula DH would do some middle of the night feeds. I also said DH would get up if I woke him up because I was feeling overwhelmed but I had DD in our room right next to our bed so a lot of the time I would just lean over and pick her and nurse her change her really quick without waking up DH. I was just making sure she knew that just pumping during the day so DH could feed the baby a bottle one of the night feedings while she slept doesn't really work. 
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  • I fell I should also add to the original poster I do not think your husband should get to sleep in another room and if the baby doesn't fall back asleep nursing or quickly after that and you are feeling overwhelmed I think he should absolutely wake up help you or take a shift walking the baby around the living room. What I was more getting at is that if you nurse a lot of middle of the night feeding/wakings are easy for you to just do alone.  
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  • I'm really sorry he reacted that way. Being new parents is very hard...that AND recovering from birth would make nighttime parenting on your own very difficult and exhausting. I would be livid if my husband expected me to do everything from day 1.

    Yes, he drives to work and you don't have to as a SAHM, but you DO have a job that is demanding, and it doesn't end at 5pm. By refusing to help at all with nighttime parenting, your DH is saying that he doesn't consider SAH real work (which is a joke...it's tons of work), and that he essentially plans to commute and work his usual hours and then get a BREAK, whereas your new job will be 24/7, 365.

    That attitude would not fly in my house. DH goes to work and I SAH, but we both recognize that our jobs are tough, and we share nighttime parenting responsibilities.

    Also, I find that the easy way to convince a husband to let baby sleep in the parents' room is to say that DH has to be the one to go get baby from his/her room and bring baby to mama every time he/she wakes. It gets old really fast, and husbands tend to realize that they'll get MORE sleep when baby is within arms reach of mom.

    It is also SAFER to keep baby within sensory distance of the parents. Sleep cycles are more natural, etc., and the risk of SIDS is much lower. You can read more about that here, and it might be compelling info for your DH:

    https://cosleeping.nd.edu/articles-and-presentations/articles-and-essays/


    Also, this book may be great for your DH:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0912500964?pc_redir=1398573758&robot_redir=1

    There is a lot of time between now and October for your DH to get a realistic idea of what his expectations should be, and of how to properly support you. ((Hugs)) Wishing you the best!!!
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  • aander6 said:
    I fell I should also add to the original poster I do not think your husband should get to sleep in another room and if the baby doesn't fall back asleep nursing or quickly after that and you are feeling overwhelmed I think he should absolutely wake up help you or take a shift walking the baby around the living room. What I was more getting at is that if you nurse a lot of middle of the night feeding/wakings are easy for you to just do alone.  
    Yeah, this is a good point.  I feel like I should also add that if DD was ever up in the night and just screaming and not going back to sleep, even after nursing, DH would get up and help if I asked him to, despite the deal being that I would get up and he didn't have to because he had to work in the morning. 
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  • DS1 was in the nursery after the first week because I didn't get any sleep with him in our room.  He ended up being bottle fed after 6 weeks.  DH's schedule rotated, but generally I would go to bed early and DH would handle feedings until 11pm or so.  I would do the rest of the night feedings.   
    DH was going to school full time and working full time when DS2 was born, so I typically did it all.  
    DH is a fairly sounds sleeper and didn't have any issue with babies in our room.  He functions poorly on low sleep.  I'm much more pleasant than he is on low levels of sleep. 
    We still tend to be up with kids many nights between a newly night time trained little boy and colds, and other illnesses.  Now we alternate turns.  And we each get one weekend day to sleep in.  

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  • I'll also add that I expect H to take over when he gets home from work AND he will be woken up if I'm having trouble getting the baby back to sleep or feeling like I need support in any way. I think my original reply made it sound like H wouldn't share any of the baby responsibilities.

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    Our situation is a little different. I take ALL night wake ups. My DH works on call 24/7. He's given a 10hr rest period after each time he works, but other than that he can be called at ANY time. With his job he needs sleep when he can get it. Him dozing off at work could have very extreme, dangerous consequences. Yeah, I'm tired after being up with a kid all night but I SAH and I'm more worried about his safety than him getting up with us. If he gets some decent sleep, he'll take the baby in the morning and I'll get a little extra rest. Sometimes he's not even home at night and needs to sleep during the day. Plus he goes OOT fairly often (1-2x a week) for 1-2 nights at a time. So yeah, I got pretty used to doing nights on my own.

    Even if he did get up with LO I still wake up too. A few times DH has got up with the baby, but I just can't sleep if I hear them crying. So, there's really no point for him to get up with LO if I'm going to be up any way and honestly I'm able to get LO fed, changed, back to sleep faster than he can so I kind of prefer to just do it myself. Plus when I'm BFing there's not much he can do anyway. If we have a blowout or something he'll help me out, then goes back to sleep. It works for us.

    Edit: add. LO sleeps in our room, in a bassinet on my side of the bed. DH has never suggested sleeping in another room.  I wouldn't have a problem with it if LO was extra fussy one night and it was keeping him up too, but DH just deciding he'd sleep in another room for a few months would upset me too.
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  • We seriously lucked out in this area because I SAH and DH WFH 3 days per week. On the nights before his two days in the office (because he has a 4 hour round trip to make solo and I don't want him to do it sleepy) I take full night duty. When he's WFH, we take turns getting up with LO. And, obviously, some days require more coffee than others do. I think it's especially rough for him to expect you to do 100% of night duty and still be alert enough to care for a new baby all day on your own while he's sitting at work, alert and well-rested. (Especially if you have a little one who refuses to sleep when it's dark out).

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  • Every family must figure out what arrangement will work best for them. I didn't mean to come across quite so harshly...I suppose my issue would be with a dad's unwillingness to assist in nighttime parenting, and to use the excuse of mom SAH...

    I EBF, and I think I got the much better deal because DH would get up whenever baby woke and change his diaper while I got ready to nurse. Once DS didn't need changing at every waking, DH would just sleep and I would wake to feed him, but DH was always right there to help and support me if I needed it.
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  • While I am on maternity leave and especially while nursing in the middle of the night, I plan to take the bulk of the night time interruptions. On weekends, I do expect my H to help, though. And he can take the baby when he gets home so I can have a little me time.

    As far as him sleeping in another room...while every night would irk me, every once in a while wouldn't. I actually have been sleeping in a different room than my husband for a couple of weeks because I have been sleeping so poorly, he would wake me up with his snoring. Now that I am sleeping better, I am going to start sleeping with him again.
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  • Most moms are home for a few
    Months even if they aren't planning to be SAHM. I was home for three months. My husband helped a ton and went to work on little sleep. We did sleep in separate rooms just so each of us could get some rest.
  • We tried keeping DS in a bassinet in our room but that lasted about 3 nights and then we realized that neither one of us was getting any sleep so baby had to leave our room. It was either that or DH leaving the room and I wasn't willing to do that. 

    I took weeknights by myself completely and even with that, DH was still pretty tired. He did give me breaks here and there during the weekend but because I BF'd, he couldn't really do much without me.  

    I agree with PP that while you are on "maternity leave" you should try to give your husband as much of a break as possible and have him maybe take baby on the weekends either during the day while you nap or during the night. 
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  • Ds roomed in with us for the first 8ish weeks. Dh worked I sah. I also was BF so I did all the night time duties. Didn't see a need for dh to wake up and be exhausted for his job when I was the one feeding the baby anyway figured I might as well also change the diaper. Of course if there was a time I was overwhelmed or something like that I would wake dh up and he would help care for the baby
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  • Not SAH, but when I was still on leave we agreed if the baby needed care before 1am DH would take care of him, after 1am he was my responsibility since I could nap during the day.

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  • I'm actually scared at how this is going to work out for me come October. DH works evenings/nights and I work days. Most days the most I see him between the time I get home from work and the time he has to leave for work is about 30 minutes. DD was a horrible sleeper and I am praying this one is better. I know he will give me breaks on Friday/Saturday nights since he stays up later than I do.

    I hope we can get a routine down quickly. Luckily DD is a good sleeper now so I shouldn't have to worry about her in the middle of the night. But she still bed shares.
     


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  • I let DH sleep. Even when I do work. I breast fed and there's no point in us both being sleep deprived and cranky. And PPs are right, even if he's giving a bottle you'll have to pump. I hate pumping so much I'd rather just drag my butt out of bed and nurse. And I was never able to pump as much as my kids ate anyway. I would never have burned through my small stash for sleep, but breast feeding was (and is) incredibly important to me.

    I just don't get needing him to get up with you just to feel like he's supporting you. There are other ways he can be supportive.
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  • I don't think this has been said.  But I would just wait until your child arrives.  You may want him/her in the room or you may not.  In our case, both my husband and I slept better with our daughter in our room so she was there for about the first 6 months.  I have know people though that the noises the baby makes keeps them awake so the baby sleeps in their own room almost from the start.  

    I SAH and my husband works.  In the beginning, like another poster said, when I got to the end of my rope I'd wake my husband up and he would deal with her so I could have 5 (or whatever) minutes of not having to deal with baby time.  Yes, he got tired, however, he didn't wake up everytime she was up only if I couldn't deal anymore.  I understood that he had to work and I am blessed to stay home with our daughter.  However, one day at work he went to talk to a coworker and ended up in the wrong cubicle.  OOPS!  But he also wanted to be a Dad too and in the newborn stage when Mom hits the end of her rope, it means Dad has to take over....  It's part of the fun.
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  • First off, I agree with all the PPs, it sucks he reacted that way. It's sad, but true, a lot of people don't consider being a caregiver a job. I offered to sleep in the nursery if there is something important that DH has going on the next day, but I would be horribly upset if he assumed that because he works he'll get the only full nights sleep. We both work, but I'll be taking 6 months leave. After I go back to work, however, I anticipate the night responsibilities being more evenly spread out. 

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  • My husband travels a lot for work, so I am by myself at least half of the week. When he is home, he is definitely there to help with night feedings or early wake ups. I bottle feed though, so he is easily able to take over.

    I think every family is different in this respect, and y'all have to do what works for you. Sleeping in another room is over the top-I would not be okay with that at all. But, some babies sttn early and only wake up once or twice at most. Some are horrible sleepers-that shouldn't only be on the non working parent.

  • Try not to stress about this too much now. You will figure it out and get in a routine that's good for LO, Mom, and Dad. A lot of it is so dependent on your LO, how much they sleep, if they are breastfeeding, etc. 

    This is what worked perfectly for us: LO slept in a bassinet on my side of the bed. When she woke up, I would nurse her, then pass her off to DH who would change her diaper. I found if I had to get up and deal with that I couldn't fall back asleep very easily whereas DH sleeps like a rock. 
    After diaper change, DH would hand her back and I would rock her to sleep. 

    It worked well because DD was an awesome sleeper and didn't cry much at night. 
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  • I know a lot of people say you can get naps during the day. This wasn't true for us. DS nursed on a two hour schedule around the clock. He would nurse for 20mins one side, 15-20 mins on the other side then have to be held upright for 20 mins due to reflux. There was no way to pump because of his eating. Add in diaper changes and by the time we were able to lay him down you had maybe 45 mins before he wanted to eat again.  This went on for 8 months.

    My point is, you never know how your baby will sleep or eat until they are here. Every baby is different. It is better to get your husband to agree to be flexible in helping you now instead of him putting it all on you because you SAH. 


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    I know a lot of people say you can get naps during the day. This wasn't true for us. DS nursed on a two hour schedule around the clock. He would nurse for 20mins one side, 15-20 mins on the other side then have to be held upright for 20 mins due to reflux. There was no way to pump because of his eating. Add in diaper changes and by the time we were able to lay him down you had maybe 45 mins before he wanted to eat again.  This went on for 8 months.

    My point is, you never know how your baby will sleep or eat until they are here. Every baby is different. It is better to get your husband to agree to be flexible in helping you now instead of him putting it all on you because you SAH. 


    All of this. My son was the same way. Every two hours around the clock. And the first few weeks or so it was every 1.5 hours and it would take him about an hour to get through a feeding. (you do the math...uggh) He was breastfed and as others have mentioned, pumping was way harder than breastfeeding so all the feedings were on me. My DH got out of bed with me for every feeding the first few months. He couldn't "help" but misery loves company.

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  • Im kind of on my own at night.. i breastfeed and dont really see the point in my husband getting up when he works 12 hours 2 days a week and 8 hours the other 3 and works in a threatening job.. even when I go back to work I still do the full night time gamet because im breastfeeding.. It just works for us... baby sleeps in our room and will for the first 6-8 months. .
  • I'm in the minority here. DH and I often sleep in separate rooms, and definitely slept in different rooms for the first 3-4 months of DS's life.

    However, this was a MUTUAL DECISION. In the beginning, I was on leave, I was EBFing, and it was easier for DH to give me a break whenever he got home from work, rather than int he middle of the night. I tried moving back into bed after a few weeks, but it stressed ME out to worry about DS waking him up a ton (I'm crazy, I know, DH could have cared less).

    DH and I still will sleep apart a lot because he snores like a bear and I get little sleep because of my crazy work schedule and every ounce of sleep is precious.

    After that novel, the moral of my story is to discuss it now, but wait to see how it unfolds. I was always a staunch, "he's going to get up with me", believer. Then DS came, and it didn't work for us. You'll find what works for you both if you speak up and are honest with each other!
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  • I'm an RN too. With our first LO, I put him in his crib the day we got home from the hospital. It was right across the hall and I felt comfortable with that. However, we also had a full size bed in there as well. The first 2 weeks was tough as I had a really hard time getting DS to latch. DH helped because he had 2 weeks paternity leave.
    But honestly, once he went back to work, he would take over the baby from 8/9-11 pm so I could nap. Then from 11 til 6 am I was in charge then DH left for work around 730. My theory was it was better to have one sane adult than two crazy sleep deprived ones. Once I went back to work 2 days a week when DS was 4 months old, I expected DH to help at night ( bring the baby to me to nurse, them he changes diaper, etc). For 8 nights a month he happily helped. When DS was fussy some nights, I slept in the baby's room.
    See how things go when the baby is here. I tried to think logically about it , and for our family the above worked got us. I personally didn't feel right maling DH get up when I was the one who was home and I was the one nursing. Now, it would be different if he was going out to the bar 3 nights a week (he wasn't), but if he's going to work all day then is coming home to see you and the baby ? I would cut him a break. He's probably nervous joe he is going to manage the stress, and he'll be the major breadwinner now ( I'm assuming).
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