~FFFC~

azmama20 · April 2014

Caitlinh27 said:

jkrauss627 said:

3. FFFC- I bought several new pairs of undies at VS and I really wanted to wear some today, so I just pulled the tags off and put them on without washing.

I always worry that someone with a dirty vag tried them on.
Ewww, I never really thought about that. I almost never wash new things before I wear them. I'm way too lazy.

I always wash new things. I feel like new clothes are itchy.

juliagulia38 · April 2014

I have a 2nd one.. I love Thursdays and Fridays. The first thing I do when I wake up is hop on the bump and look for the UO or FFFC thread. It's the highlight of my week.

notkateanymore · April 2014

mrsashleyk said:

I never answer the door when people knock/ring the doorbell. If I'm not expecting you, I don't answer.

I will go into stealth mode and tip toe to the other end of my house and peek out a window to see who is there. Chances are my house is a messa and I'm not dressed. Go away.
. Somebody knocked yesterday and I almost stopped breathing until they went away. So weird.

I'm always afraid people are testing to see if anybody is home and if I don't answer they'll break in. That happened around here a couple of years ago.

northport6 · April 2014

FFFC: My life is empty since @TheSloppySwish, @superspecialsnowflake, @Soozerella, @dontstopbelievin and assorted others went back to work. WHY DID WE GO BACK TO WORK WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY GIFs LEFT TO POST?

My real FFFC: My car's in the shop. I don't love my car. It has a pretty high resale/trade-in value. Today begins the full-court press on DH to convince him that I should replace my current car. It's paid off, decently low mileage and I just want something slightly heavier duty for the winter. And also maybe a sunroof. I don't know. I'm rambling.

Additional FFFC: COLBERT FTW I DON'T CARE WHO'S UPSET BY HIS SELECTION WOOO!

MissyC979 · April 2014

I just went to Panera for takeout. We're running out of straws at home, so I grabbed four extra straws when I got my drink. We won't go shopping until Sunday and I can't deal without my straws at home.

So where does this "stealing" fit compared to the discussion a few weeks ago about finding an item in your cart that you didn't pay for and not returning it to the store? Does the $10 I paid for a soup, half salad, and soda entitle me to extra straws or am I going to hell?

azmama20 · April 2014

MissyC979 said:

I just went to Panera for takeout. We're running out of straws at home, so I grabbed four extra straws when I got my drink. We won't go shopping until Sunday and I can't deal without my straws at home.

So where does this "stealing" fit compared to the discussion a few weeks ago about finding an item in your cart that you didn't pay for and not returning it to the store? Does the $10 I paid for a soup, half salad, and soda entitle me to extra straws or am I going to hell?

I think you should have taken MOAR straws.

juliagulia38 · April 2014

@MamaCBear‌ lol yeah I remember that! I promise I'm not your sister

azmama20 · April 2014

FFFC: I wish my supply hadn't tanked so I could still be pumping for LO. That way at work I could get more breaks.

azmama20 · April 2014

Loolaide said:

My FFFC is that every week I hope for drama in this thread and the UO. My life is pretty tame between working and taking care of babies that I'd love to read something interesting. I leave these posts disappointed that no one is doing anything particularly flameful.

Yesterday I hear that someone said something about 8 year olds asking for it ...

You're taking what I stated out of context. The context was basically I see no need to an 8 year old to dress like she's selling her body. And I said I don't want to say she's asking for it, but it's difficult not to think that way. (There was also a disclaimer about how I would never say victims of a sexual assault were "asking for it".)

ETA: Here's the context from yesterday

KateMW said:
I agree that kid's clothes are too "old" a lot of the time.

Drives me crazy when I see an 8-10 year old dressed like she could be working a corner downtown or something. I'm like I don't believe that victims of rapes/sexual violence are asking for it in any way shape or form, but the way she's dressed looks like she intends to sell herself like seriously. I don't want to say that she looks like she's "asking for it", but sometimes they do. I'm sorry but I don't get why parents let their kids out of the house looking like that. Especially at such a young age. Your eight year old does not need to be wearing a miniskit that barely covers her downstairs area, a low cut shirt that almost shews off her chest and platform heels. NO. JUST NO.

MissyC979 · April 2014

MissyC979 said:
My FFFC is that every week I hope for drama in this thread and the UO. My life is pretty tame between working and taking care of babies that I'd love to read something interesting. I leave these posts disappointed that no one is doing anything particularly flameful.

Yesterday I hear that someone said something about 8 year olds asking for it

I missed that! ETA: Wrong lool quote--she's too quotable.

azmama20 · April 2014

mrsashleyk said:

Another FFC: we went to a barbecue last weekend and I left the house without remembering to put deodorant on. It was hot as shit in their home (no air conditioning in most houses in Monterey) so I used the deodorant in their medicine cabinet. ETA: I wiped off the top after if that helps with the gross factor, but my husband says it doesn't.

Gross, but I think they would appreciate the lack of BO. Pits are stanky!

azmama20 · April 2014

Heaven802002 said:

Last week I was at the gym and some attractive girl was changing in the locker room. I totally checked her out (in the most non creepy way possible of course).

Nudity in the locker room is acceptable. In public? Probably not the way to go. Also I tihnk when people dress like i described some of the 8 year olds I've seen as I did above, they are clearly trying to draw attention to themselves by making themselves seem "sexy". I feel like that objectifies women more than anything. Not saying you need to dress like the Duggar household, but I feel like there are better ways to feel "attractive" or "sexy" without showing off all the "goods" if you will.

FFFC?

margaerytyrell · April 2014

My FFFC: I'm a teacher and gave my students a worksheet to complete. I had no intention of taking it for a grade until I saw one of my troublemaker kids not doing it. Then, I started skimming over the work and a lot of people did a half ass job. So you better believe I am going to grade that shit now.

Eta: replace words

azmama20 · April 2014

Loolaide said:

Loolaide said:

My FFFC is that every week I hope for drama in this thread and the UO. My life is pretty tame between working and taking care of babies that I'd love to read something interesting. I leave these posts disappointed that no one is doing anything particularly flameful.

Yesterday I hear that someone said something about 8 year olds asking for it ...

You're taking what I stated out of context. The context was basically I see no need to an 8 year old to dress like she's selling her body. And I said I don't want to say she's asking for it, but it's difficult not to think that way. (There was also a disclaimer about how I would never say victims of a sexual assault were "asking for it".)

ETA: Here's the context from yesterday

KateMW said:
I agree that kid's clothes are too "old" a lot of the time.
Drives me crazy when I see an 8-10 year old dressed like she could be working a corner downtown or something. I'm like I don't believe that victims of rapes/sexual violence are asking for it in any way shape or form, but the way she's dressed looks like she intends to sell herself like seriously. I don't want to say that she looks like she's "asking for it", but sometimes they do.I'm sorry but I don't get why parents let their kids out of the house looking like that. Especially at such a young age. Your eight year old does not need to be wearing a miniskit that barely covers her downstairs area, a low cut shirt that almost shews off her chest and platform heels. NO. JUST NO.
--- Despite all the backpedaling even in that post, you said the bolded. That you don't want to say it but they do look like it. ETA - you can talk trash about an outfit without saying someone looks like she's asking for it.

I don't feel like it was backpedaling, I was clarifying what I meant. Also I further clarified when I quoted Heaven's post.

MissyC979 · April 2014

rfred20 said:

Heaven802002 said:

Last week I was at the gym and some attractive girl was changing in the locker room. I totally checked her out (in the most non creepy way possible of course).

Nudity in the locker room is acceptable. In public? Probably not the way to go. Also I tihnk when people dress like i described some of the 8 year olds I've seen as I did above, they are clearly trying to draw attention to themselves by making themselves seem "sexy". I feel like that objectifies women more than anything. Not saying you need to dress like the Duggar household, but I feel like there are better ways to feel "attractive" or "sexy" without showing off all the "goods" if you will.

FFFC?

I'm going to post this one more time...

snorticusprime · April 2014

mrsashleyk said:
Another FFC: we went to a barbecue last weekend and I left the house without remembering to put deodorant on. It was hot as shit in their home (no air conditioning in most houses in Monterey) so I used the deodorant in their medicine cabinet.

ETA: I wiped off the top after if that helps with the gross factor, but my husband says it doesn't.

No, just no! I am super weird about things though. I get pissed when H uses mine bc he ran out.

azmama20 · April 2014

gwinnygirl said:

@rfred20 - You and people like you are helping to perpetuate the sexualization of children when you read into what they are wearing and use phrases like "asking for it." And don't even get me started on how that whole post reeks of victim blaming.

I am disgusted by this. Fuck this shit, seriously.

I'm completely against the sexualization of children. I feel like to prevent this there are a few things that need to happen.

1. Parenting needs to become commonplace again. You can't be your kids' friend. You need to be able to tell them when something that they are doing is wrong or unacceptable.

2. Clothing companies need to stop making outfits for children that are provocative.

3. I feel like the media needs to stop glorifying sex. Children wouldn't feel so pressured to look sexy if this were not the case.

notkateanymore · April 2014

So what counts as a call out? Can I ask a question of somebody that some people will think is bitchy?

azmama20 · April 2014

cepayseur said:

Cashingn2 said:

@rfred20 - You and people like you are helping to perpetuate the sexualization of children when you read into what they are wearing and use phrases like "asking for it." And don't even get me started on how that whole post reeks of victim blaming.

I am disgusted by this. Fuck this shit, seriously.
I must have missed the post. Can you direct me to it? Eta: just saw it. I agree with Gwinny here. Victim blaming is never ok. I'm not going to get started on this because I'm super passionate but it has nothing to do with what the person is wearing. The perpetrators are sick fucks.

@Cashing2n is about to flip... I can feel it.

In case you were wondering ... I have been a victim of a sexual assault before. I don't feel that I or anyone who has ever been assaulted was at fault. I a merely explaining that there are other ways for both children and adults to feel attractive or sexy without turning their bodies into objects by nearly walking around naked.

azmama20 · April 2014

gwinnygirl said:

But it's perpetuating the mindset!

The conversation should be shifted from the shaming & blaming to teaching people that they don't have a right to anyone's body. You don't get to say what is & isn't appropriate, you are part of the problem if you sexualizing what a person wears, not them.

JFC - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

I'm sorry, but I really do not see how anyone can wear an outfit that leaves nothing to the imagination and claim that "it's not their fault if you think the outfit is drawing attention to me". That's the whole reason you are wearing an outfit like that. Come on now.

azmama20 · April 2014

hercules03 said:

rfred20 said:

gwinnygirl said:

But it's perpetuating the mindset!

The conversation should be shifted from the shaming & blaming to teaching people that they don't have a right to anyone's body. You don't get to say what is & isn't appropriate, you are part of the problem if you sexualizing what a person wears, not them.

JFC - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

I'm sorry, but I really do not see how anyone can wear an outfit that leaves nothing to the imagination and claim that "it's not their fault if you think the outfit is drawing attention to me". That's the whole reason you are wearing an outfit like that. Come on now.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.... Girl. Come, on. It is one thing for an outfit to draw attention to a woman - positive attention. But negative attention - that's not a woman's fault. Ever. That's a sick persons fault. Only. You understand that, right?

I'm not saying it is the victims fault at all. I'm saying that there are some sick people in this world and you can't go out dressed like a whore without people thinking you look like you intend to sell yourself. That's negative attention. You can't possibly not realize the way you dress looks like that. Surely someone is not that naive.

azmama20 · April 2014

hercules03 said:

rfred20 said:

hercules03 said:

rfred20 said:

gwinnygirl said:

But it's perpetuating the mindset!

The conversation should be shifted from the shaming & blaming to teaching people that they don't have a right to anyone's body. You don't get to say what is & isn't appropriate, you are part of the problem if you sexualizing what a person wears, not them.

JFC - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

I'm sorry, but I really do not see how anyone can wear an outfit that leaves nothing to the imagination and claim that "it's not their fault if you think the outfit is drawing attention to me". That's the whole reason you are wearing an outfit like that. Come on now.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.... Girl. Come, on. It is one thing for an outfit to draw attention to a woman - positive attention. But negative attention - that's not a woman's fault. Ever. That's a sick persons fault. Only. You understand that, right?

I'm not saying it is the victims fault at all. I'm saying that there are some sick people in this world and you can't go out dressed like a whore without people thinking you look like you intend to sell yourself. That's negative attention. You can't possibly not realize the way you dress looks like that. Surely someone is not that naive.

But the thing is, it is my and your right as a human being to walk down the street butt ass naked holding a for sale sign - (albeit as long as we aren't breaking any public decency laws) and that does not give any other human being the right to touch us. They can stare. They can go hike and jack off. But they cannot touch. There is nothing unnatural about showing off the beauty of the human body but there is something extraordinarily unnatural about the need to dominate and rape a man or woman or child because of the way they are dressed. Doctors see people in the nude all the time. They control their urges.

I'm not saying that because they are dressed that way, they are deserving of being touched without their consent. I'm saying that the way they are choosing to dress objectifies them, and they should seriously reconsider it, seeing the connotations that go along with said clothing.

azmama20 · April 2014

hercules03 said:

rfred20 said:

Loolaide said:

Loolaide said:

My FFFC is that every week I hope for drama in this thread and the UO. My life is pretty tame between working and taking care of babies that I'd love to read something interesting. I leave these posts disappointed that no one is doing anything particularly flameful.

Yesterday I hear that someone said something about 8 year olds asking for it ...

You're taking what I stated out of context. The context was basically I see no need to an 8 year old to dress like she's selling her body. And I said I don't want to say she's asking for it, but it's difficult not to think that way. (There was also a disclaimer about how I would never say victims of a sexual assault were "asking for it".)

ETA: Here's the context from yesterday

KateMW said:
I agree that kid's clothes are too "old" a lot of the time.
Drives me crazy when I see an 8-10 year old dressed like she could be working a corner downtown or something. I'm like I don't believe that victims of rapes/sexual violence are asking for it in any way shape or form, but the way she's dressed looks like she intends to sell herself like seriously. I don't want to say that she looks like she's "asking for it", but sometimes they do.I'm sorry but I don't get why parents let their kids out of the house looking like that. Especially at such a young age. Your eight year old does not need to be wearing a miniskit that barely covers her downstairs area, a low cut shirt that almost shews off her chest and platform heels. NO. JUST NO.
--- Despite all the backpedaling even in that post, you said the bolded. That you don't want to say it but they do look like it. ETA - you can talk trash about an outfit without saying someone looks like she's asking for it.

I don't feel like it was backpedaling, I was clarifying what I meant. Also I further clarified when I quoted Heaven's post.

Twatty poster alert... What I think she was saying is not that they are asking for it but that is what is perceived. Even in law, many people are behind bars because they were perceived to have done something wrong even if they have had no intention. The blame does not lie with the children but with the parents 100%. Of course nobody asks to be sexually assaulted. It is absurd to even assume that's what rfred what saying. She is quite clearly saying that by their parents allowing them to be dressed in a sexual manner, they are being perceived in a way that they should not be. Not as a child, not as an adult, not ever. No person is ever asking for it. But a twisted sexual predator is quicker to perceive them that way when they are not dressed appropriately.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET ACROSS. I AM JUST TERRIBLE WITH WORDS.

golfingdarwinfish · April 2014

gwinnygirl said:
But it's perpetuating the mindset!

The conversation should be shifted from the shaming & blaming to teaching people that they don't have a right to anyone's body. You don't get to say what is & isn't appropriate, you are part of the problem if you sexualizing what a person wears, not them.

JFC - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Do you read Jezebel or Groupthink? I feel like you'd like both communities. Perhaps not the Jez authors, but the commenters, and def the Groupthink community.

northport6 · April 2014

@hercules03said:

rfred20 said:

hercules03 said:

rfred20 said:

gwinnygirl said:

But it's perpetuating the mindset!

The conversation should be shifted from the shaming & blaming to teaching people that they don't have a right to anyone's body. You don't get to say what is & isn't appropriate, you are part of the problem if you sexualizing what a person wears, not them.

JFC - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

I'm sorry, but I really do not see how anyone can wear an outfit that leaves nothing to the imagination and claim that "it's not their fault if you think the outfit is drawing attention to me". That's the whole reason you are wearing an outfit like that. Come on now.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.... Girl. Come, on. It is one thing for an outfit to draw attention to a woman - positive attention. But negative attention - that's not a woman's fault. Ever. That's a sick persons fault. Only. You understand that, right?

I'm not saying it is the victims fault at all. I'm saying that there are some sick people in this world and you can't go out dressed like a whore without people thinking you look like you intend to sell yourself. That's negative attention. You can't possibly not realize the way you dress looks like that. Surely someone is not that naive.

But the thing is, it is my and your right as a human being to walk down the street butt ass naked holding a for sale sign - (albeit as long as we aren't breaking any public decency laws) and that does not give any other human being the right to touch us. They can stare. They can go home and jack off. But they cannot touch. There is nothing unnatural about showing off the beauty of the human body but there is something extraordinarily unnatural about the need to dominate and rape a man or woman or child because of the way they are dressed. Doctors see people in the nude all the time. They control their urges.

DAMMIT HERC. I CAN'T CONTROL MY URGE TO GIVE YOU A HIGH FIVE FOR THIS.

So here's like seven high-fives simultaneously.

azmama20 · April 2014

TShea721 said:

So what counts as a call out? Can I ask a question of somebody that some people will think is bitchy?
@KateMW‌ do it
Yes please do it. However...if it's me, don't hahaha.

Pretty sure it's me. Since most everyone seems to be piling on today.

azmama20 · April 2014

Cashingn2 said:

@rfred20‌, being a victim does not make it okay to say those things. It's comments like those that cause victims to blame themselves. I was drunk off my ass when the second attack that I've been through occurred but I surely wasn't asking for it. In fact, I said no repeatedly.

That's very similar to what happened to me. Super drunk and taken advantage of, despite attempts to fight him off. I really didn't mean to offend anyone, truly. And I am sorry if I did. I was merely trying to say pretty much what Herc said when she first posted on this thread. I am just shitty with words.

northport6 · April 2014

@gwinnygirl said:

VCGolfNYC said:

But it's perpetuating the mindset!

The conversation should be shifted from the shaming & blaming to teaching people that they don't have a right to anyone's body. You don't get to say what is & isn't appropriate, you are part of the problem if you sexualizing what a person wears, not them.

JFC - I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Do you read Jezebel or Groupthink? I feel like you'd like both communities. Perhaps not the Jez authors, but the commenters, and def the Groupthink community.

Yes to Jezebel. And my sister just turned me on to Feminist Wire.

I am by no means perfect with my language and actions - but I am open to changing. And more than anything I want my children to be a part of that change. I wish more people felt that way.

Also Bitch Magazine (and its online community) is a little more feminist wonk and policy related and less pop culture than Jez, but it's pretty excellent too. Autostraddle has great feminist theory although it's predominantly for a queer-identifying audience. I'm having deja vu like maybe we talked about this once before, but anyway, I recommend those two places, too.

azmama20 · April 2014

gwinnygirl said:

rfred20 said:

TShea721 said:

So what counts as a call out? Can I ask a question of somebody that some people will think is bitchy?
@KateMW‌ do it
Yes please do it. However...if it's me, don't hahaha.

Pretty sure it's me. Since most everyone seems to be piling on today.

Oh please, there's like 4 people that are "piling on." Also, have you even considered reflecting on some of our words, at all? Because it doesn't seem like it.

I have reflected. I'm sticking to what I truly meant. Which is pretty much what Herc posted when she said this:

What I think she was saying is not that they are asking for it but that is what is perceived. Even in law, many people are behind bars because they were perceived to have done something wrong even if they have had no intention. The blame does not lie with the children but with the parents 100%. Of course nobody asks to be sexually assaulted. It is absurd to even assume that's what rfred what saying. She is quite clearly saying that by their parents allowing them to be dressed in a sexual manner, they are being perceived in a way that they should not be. Not as a child, not as an adult, not ever. No person is ever asking for it. But a twisted sexual predator is quicker to perceive them that way when they are not dressed appropriately.

northport6 · April 2014

Yezbick9 said:

Rfred, if your point was that it's stupid to let your daughter look like she's working a corner, I'm totally with you. That does not give a man an excuse to do one single thing to her, but why on earth would you dress her that way? I don't want my daughter to look like that. Whether guys should be able to control themselves or not (and they SHOULD control themselves), there are really bad people out there. I don't even want to tempt them. I liken it to locking my doors. It's stupid not to just because people shouldn't break in. And I don't think you were all that unclear but maybe didn't articulate yourself all that well. I think you're just not a cool kid on here, so you're fair game to be misinterpreted. That's my FFFC.

I think this is fanning the flames and isn't true. And sentiments like this being expressed by multiple people today shows that perhaps nobody knows who these supposed "cool kids" are.

northport6 · April 2014

FFFC: I'm on the verge of GBCBing and none of this was even directed at me. What's happening, Dec13? Wherefore art thou?

blainethetrain · April 2014

Cashingn2 said:
@Yezbick9‌, I'm going to need a list of the cool kids since it's only ok to argue with them.

Thing is, the people who are the "cool kids" are pretty cool

If you say assholish things too many times, people don't wanna be around you. Isn't that generally the way that any society works?

azmama20 · April 2014

Yezbick9 said:

Rfred, if your point was that it's stupid to let your daughter look like she's working a corner, I'm totally with you. That does not give a man an excuse to do one single thing to her, but why on earth would you dress her that way? I don't want my daughter to look like that. Whether guys should be able to control themselves or not (and they SHOULD control themselves), there are really bad people out there. I don't even want to tempt them. I liken it to locking my doors. It's stupid not to just because people shouldn't break in. And I don't think you were all that unclear but maybe didn't articulate yourself all that well. I think you're just not a cool kid on here, so you're fair game to be misinterpreted. That's my FFFC.

This is basically what I was trying to say as well. It's exactly like locking your doors. Or keeping a fire extinguisher in your home type of a thing. I'm not expecting a fire, but I would rather be able to combat the firs with the appropriate tools, rather then add fuel to the flames.

azmama20 · April 2014

Loolaide said:

OH THANK GOD - we're going to shame sex workers now!!!

Yeah, um, why is it that the prostitutes get arrested but not the Johns? And rfred, I didn't see people piling on. People just disagreed with you saying that a child or that child's parents were to blame for the way that child dresses, as if the way she dresses is wrong. Dressing is for form and function. You dress to protect yourself from the elements, but also so that your looks please you. That's it. No sanctimommy or potential rapist should have any say in what you wear. ETA I'm not fixing my grammar.

I think that the johns should be arrested just as much, if not even more so the the girls. Most of the girls in the sex trade are basically enslaved. the johns go there by their own free will.

lp0 · April 2014

ClaireFraser said:
Mine:

I don't like this board lately. It has drastically changed in the last couple months. I find myself barely even coming to check on anything over here.

Also, for those still posting in the damn Super Baby thread. You're excluding a lot of people because no one wants to sift through all those replies and pages. And several posters have asked for it to die already.

This! I feel like the board has changed so much and that SB post is finishing it off. I get that it's not excluding anyone but it's turning away posters who want to comment on topics that interest them. I don't want to browse through 20+ pages to see if there's a topic I'm interested in or if it has been discussed.

blainethetrain · April 2014

Yezbick9 said:

Heaven802002 said:
I must agree there is a handful of "cool kids" here and that's fine. That's the way it is with everything. There will always be the popular kids and everyone else.
This. I really like so many regulars around here, and even the ones I tend to disagree with are fine, too. There's a reason reach and every one of them are popular. They're funny, or sarcastic, or opinionated, or all the above (hi cash!). But at times it does remind me of Jr high around here. A good example is every chiamy post. I missed how she offended people, but posters come out of the woodwork when she puts something up, and quite often the comments are derogatory.

I'm not a fan of a pile on usually, but ChiAmy was very hurtful to a whole board. Repeatedly.

azmama20 · April 2014

hckygrl909 said:

I must agree there is a handful of "cool kids" here and that's fine. That's the way it is with everything. There will always be the popular kids and everyone else.
This. I really like so many regulars around here, and even the ones I tend to disagree with are fine, too. There's a reason reach and every one of them are popular. They're funny, or sarcastic, or opinionated, or all the above (hi cash!). But at times it does remind me of Jr high around here. A good example is every chiamy post. I missed how she offended people, but posters come out of the woodwork when she puts something up, and quite often the comments are derogatory.
I'm not a fan of a pile on usually, but ChiAmy was very hurtful to a whole board. Repeatedly.

I understand that some posters have been EXTREMELY hurtful to others. But I feel like if what they are currently saying is not hurtful and they are being flamed due to a difference of opinions because people do not like them for what they have said previously, then that's where the problem starts, I think.

northport6 · April 2014

OMG I'm going to use KOKO all the time now since I actually say that in real lyfe.

blainethetrain · April 2014

Cashingn2 said:
I do not participate in ChiAmy pile ons when they're not warranted. Most of the regs don't. It's been a while since anyone has though I think some people were childish on the rug thread. You know who you are (I can't remember who it was).

Yeah man, she was just asking about a rug FFS.

esf60 · April 2014

@rfred20 said:

@Loolaide said:

My FFFC is that every week I hope for drama in this thread and the UO. My life is pretty tame between working and taking care of babies that I'd love to read something interesting. I leave these posts disappointed that no one is doing anything particularly flameful.

Yesterday I hear that someone said something about 8 year olds asking for it ...

You're taking what I stated out of context. The context was basically I see no need to an 8 year old to dress like she's selling her body. And I said I don't want to say she's asking for it, but it's difficult not to think that way. (There was also a disclaimer about how I would never say victims of a sexual assault were "asking for it".)

ETA: Here's the context from yesterday

@KateMW said:
I agree that kid's clothes are too "old" a lot of the time.
Drives me crazy when I see an 8-10 year old dressed like she could be working a corner downtown or something. I'm like I don't believe that victims of rapes/sexual violence are asking for it in any way shape or form, but the way she's dressed looks like she intends to sell herself like seriously. I don't want to say that she looks like she's "asking for it", but sometimes they do. I'm sorry but I don't get why parents let their kids out of the house looking like that. Especially at such a young age. Your eight year old does not need to be wearing a miniskit that barely covers her downstairs area, a low cut shirt that almost shews off her chest and platform heels. NO. JUST NO.

Your context adds nothing. This is what I have to say to you "asking for it" comment.

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