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WWYD - Strangers and IF

So I'm at that stage of pregnancy where everyone feels the need to tell me every pregnancy or baby related story they know.  Charming really.  I'm so happy to know that a random stranger in the parking garage's daughter had a baby.  This really affects my life.  :|
Anyhow... So I was at the gym yesterday after my prenatal yoga class (go me!) changing back into my work clothes, and this naked lady comes and sits down on the bench next to me and starts asking about the baby... do I know what I'm having, when am I due, etc.  Okay, fine, people are interested. (Maybe throw on some undies though, k?)  Then she starts telling me that her daughter has been trying and trying to get pregnant, but hasn't had any luck.  I respond "poor girl, I know that's rough."  Then she says "I keep telling her just to quit trying so hard, and then she'll get pregnant."  Ugh, that dreaded line! 
I just looked at her blankly, swallowed my rage, put on my earrings, and walked away.  (I did say to have a nice day after she said good luck to me.  I'm not a heartless B.)  But now I feel bad for her daughter.  This woman has no idea how hurtful and stupid advice it is to "quit trying so hard."  Would you have said something?  Or left it alone?
TTC with PCOS since November 2009
IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
beta #2 11/28 = 2055
Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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Re: WWYD - Strangers and IF

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  • That's a good response.  I wish I was better at thinking on my feet.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • @Bellalou32 At my job, there's no telling who the naked woman next to you on the bench might be.  So I try to keep my mouth shut when I can.  But now I wish I had said something.  I feel bad for her daughter.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • Well, hopefully it'll work out for her. Wonder how long she's been having issues.
    I know!  I also kinda wanted to be nosy, and always wish I could help others with IF.  But if her mom is clearly clueless, then even if she is pursuing treatments I doubt she shares much with her mom.  I know I wouldn't.  (And I didn't.  As much as she tried to be supportive, my mom was clueless as well.)
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • I would have said something and probably something like "yea, my mom used to tell me that too but relaxing doesn't really cure my husband's sperm issues."  I would have said it in a joking way to keep the conversation light but I'm sure using the word "sperm" would have gotten her attention ;-)

    Kelly, Mom to Christopher Shannon 9.27.06, Catherine Quinn 2.24.09, Trey Barton lost on 12.28.09, Therese Barton lost on 6.10.10, Joseph Sullivan 7.23.11, and our latest, Victoria Maren 11.15.12

    Secondary infertility success with IVF, then two losses, one at 14 weeks and one at 10 weeks, then success with IUI and then just pure, crazy luck.  Expecting our fifth in May as the result of a FET.

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  • Haha, very nice @itsmevkb
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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    If I worked up the nerve, my response would probably have been something like, "sometimes it's just not that easy".  There are a lot of situations that I look back on and wish I had the balls to say more.

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    Beta #1 9dp5dt = 116, P4 = 28 ~ Beta #2 13dp5dt = 700 ~ Beta #3 20dp5dt = 9500, P4 = 26

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  • TJ1979 said:
    That's a good response.  I wish I was better at thinking on my feet.
    I am not good at thinking on my feet either. I always think of something better to say after the fact. But now you can come up with options on how to respond and say it next time :)

    I feel that if she is being so open about it, why not be straight forward and honest right back, ya know? Plus she was sitting there naked. I can't imagine she would have been offended by anything you said LOL.
    Dx: Unexplained Infertility

    TTC #1 
    IUI's #1 - #3 Clomid = BFN's, IUI #4 Follistim = BFP
    Grayson arrived via emergency c-section on 7/28/12!

    TTC #2 
    IUI's #1 - #4 Follistim = BFN's
    IVF #1 w/ ICSI + PGS: Lupron/Follistim/Menopur
    ER 4/13 - 19R, 13F, 4 PGS tested embryos, 1 normal
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  • Good point @mdiblasi10!
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • I won't even chat with MH while I'm naked.  Let alone a stranger.  But I'm ridiculously self conscious.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • I can not even answer this post seriously because I cant get past the fact that a naked woman was talking to you. Lmbo!!! Wth?!
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  • @richzep That's the main reason I walked away.  I have a tendency to come off harsher than I intend.  And even though I would have liked to school her in a non-rude way, I was upset and it definitely would have come off as ugly.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • i'm not terrible at thinking on my feet, but i'm trying to filter so i probably would have just said something along the lines of "yep, unfortunately it's not that easy for everyone" but would love to say more. so many people, including family, said this to me when we were TTC #1 and i got to the point of walking away before i said something really nasty or throat punched them. also, i HATE talking to people naked. seriously woman, put some damn clothes on!
    Me: 34 Unexplained IF, DH: 31, no issues

    3 cycles of Clomid Jan-March 2012
    3x BFN
    IUI #1 Sept 2012 BFN
    IUI #1 Oct 2012 (10/11/12) BFP!
    Beta #1 10/26 313
    Beta #2 10/29 1450
    Beta #3 11/1 4202
    U/S #1 11/13
    Baby Girl born 7/3/13!!!

    And now we begin again...
    RE Consult 2/25
    Baseline Bloodwork and U/S 3/4
    Had a 22mm follicle on the R, getting ready to O on my own...BFN
    AF 4/6, CD11 testing done 4/16
    3 follies right (largest 18), 1 left (11.8). Lining 7.16
    starting Estrace 4/16, trigger 4/16 with IUI likely 4/18
  • imoverit said:
    I can not even answer this post seriously because I cant get past the fact that a naked woman was talking to you. Lmbo!!! Wth?!
    Same here. Did she fully wipe down the bench she sat on? I just cannot even process this without thinking about the sanitation issue. Cannot even deal. 
    TTC in 2009, Dx: Unexplained IF
    Three TI cycles (BFP...miscarriage), five IUI attempts and 2.5 IVF cycles later...BFP!!
    12dp5dt: 765; 15dp5dt: 1979; 17dp5dt: 3379...TWINS!!!!!
    Our perfect baby boys were born at 36w1d!! 








  • @MrsLee04‌ That is an excellent point. I wish I had thought of that

    @Ruthie04‌ she did set a towel on the bench before she sat down. So there's that at least.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • Well....apparently I am not so eloquent IRL. Yesterday a mom I know tangentially made some horrible statements about a woman she knows who is battling IF. The one that sent me over the edge was "she can't have kids because she is fat and doesn't do anything about it."

    Instead of using one of the statements listed above.....I told her she was a complete b****.

    Whoops.
    Me: 30, Dx Unexplained/hypothalamic amenorrhea
    DH: 31, normal!
    April/May 2011: Menopur + Ovidrel +TI = BFN
    Oct 2011: Menopur + Hcg +IUI = BFP!
    Beta #1 (13dpiui)= 129.7, Beta #2 (15 dpiui)= 305
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  • Hahahaha, oops @kzawisl.

    See, that's why I kept my mouth shut and walked away.  I cannot control myself.
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • See, I was torn between "honesty is the best policy", and "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." ;) clearly I went with the former.
    Me: 30, Dx Unexplained/hypothalamic amenorrhea
    DH: 31, normal!
    April/May 2011: Menopur + Ovidrel +TI = BFN
    Oct 2011: Menopur + Hcg +IUI = BFP!
    Beta #1 (13dpiui)= 129.7, Beta #2 (15 dpiui)= 305
    PAIF/SAIF always welcome!
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  • kzawisl said:
    See, I was torn between "honesty is the best policy", and "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." ;) clearly I went with the former.
    My mama always taught me "If you don't have anything nice to say... come sit by me."
    TTC with PCOS since November 2009
    IUI#1 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP, m/c
    IUI#2 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 5-9) = BFN
    IUI#3 Femara/Ovidrel (cd 3-7) = BFP!
    beta #1 11/23 = 270, P4 = 75
    beta #2 11/28 = 2055
    Our daughter E was born 7/29/2012!
    Surprise, our 2nd daughter P was born 5/22/14!
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  • Sometimes it depends on what kind of mood i'm in and also who the person is - if i feel like talking and they seem nice, i say "well, often times it's not that easy. I know from experience." however there are so many times i'm either in a rush or just generally annoyed (haha, yes i AM  a heartless B sometimes!) that i just give a look like "i think what you just said is generally really stupid" and walk away. good for you for just taking off, and saying have a nice day! i would have felt bad for the daughter too, but chances are she's a tad too ignorant to really listen to what you would have had to say anyway.
    TTC #1 Since January 2011 Dx: PCOS and Anovulatory April 2012 BFP! Beta 1 5/22 - 1,000+ Beta 2 5/24 - 3,009 1st u/s 6/5 - TWINS!!! A/S Reveals we are Team PURPLE!!! Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker image image image  12/27 - surprise BFP - due August 2014
  • I would have said something. Not because her perspective makes me furious (it doesn't because I just see it as blissful ignorance- lucky her!) but because if someone is clearly so eager to talk about it, then I'm eager to help them see a different perspective.

    In addition to realizing that fertility is not an issue of impatience, she would also benefit from a reminder that you never know who you are talking to. 

    For example, many years ago, I said out loud- "being a truck driver would be the worst job in the world!" and a guy in the car said "my dad is a truck driver." I felt so bad that from then on, I always consider that the person I'm talking to might be going through the very thing I'm speaking about. Naked lady may not realize that lots of women she's talking to about this "problem" may have faced/ be facing it too.

    Bottom line? It's never your "job" to educate people, but if they are eager to talk about it, you should feel free to mention whatever you want.
    DH and I are Americans living an adventure in Kenya since 2011
    DX: PCOS (annovulatory)
    Feb 2012: IUI #1 w/ only 1M sperm and a single follie = BFP! 
    Nov 2012: Little buddy born in Kenya
    Nov 2013: Trying for a second, still w PCOS
    Dec 2013: IUI cycle canceled for non-response
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  • I would usually say something. In this case the nakedness might have kept me from extending the conversation.
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