FFFC!

llybeck · April 2014

Also, on a COMPLETELY unrelated note, this post is up to 80 responses! Woot woot, keepin' this board alive bitches!

lilqt3929 · April 2014

I don't even remember what beer tastes like. Plus, DH and I have only polished off 2 bottles of wine since LO was born. Lame, I know :-/ .

This week I tried to do CIO for one of LOs naps (she sleeps fine at night in her crib, just won't nap there) and it failed miserably. I feel so terrible that I put her through that for no good to come of it. I mean it's days later and I still think about it .

ETA: posted too soon.

llybeck · April 2014

lindszachary said:

Burrberrymum said:

@lindszachary‌ I used to smoke marijuana and it DID affect how I drove. It was hard to perceive how fast or how slow I was going and I would have to keep looking at the speedometer. I guess maybe everyone's different though? I don't know.
I used to smoke too and if anything it made me drive slower and more cautiously then when I didnt. I was more

llybeck said:

@ilybeck There is nothing dangerous about marijuana. Most people who have the same feelings as you have not been around it. Marijuana doesn't cause people to be so enraged that they murder or beat their spouse. Marijuana doesn't cause traffic accidents (if you have ever smoked you would know this). Marijuana doesn't cause you to neglect your children for the "next fix" (even alcoholics do this). And sorry but marijuana is NOT addicting. You can also detect marijuana by doing an oral swab or a urine test. My mom is a CPS worker. When she needs to tell if somebody has smoked recently she does an oral swab. There is no reason a cop couldn't do this as well. If marijuana is illegal because it is dangerous, then YES alcohol should be as well. Alcohol is ten times more dangerous. If the government actually gave a shit about you, they would make alcohol illegal. The whole reason it was made illegal was for financial reasons. It would make other goods too cheap and destroy the lumber industry because hemp would have been cheap and in abundance.

Sources:
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/12/05/how-hemp-became-illegal-the-marijuana-link/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive
https://www.drugpolicy.org/drug-facts/10-facts-about-marijuana

ETA: I also believe that if marijuana was illegal, less people would go ape shit and murder everybody.

I've been around it a lot, A LOT. For basically my whole life and that's exactly where my feelings are coming from. Not everyone reacts the same way to it, I've been personally involved in situations that were very dangerous and harmful and the only factor involved was pot.

When I was a child I was around an alcoholic A LOT. Every time he got drunk he beat my mom and threatened to kill us all. Once he drove in oncoming traffic with all of us in the car and threatened to kill us if my mom didn't sleep with him that night. He caused my mom to go to the hospital and get stitches more than once. He bashed her in the face to the point that we thought she wouldn't be able to see out of that eye ever again.

So in MY experience alcohol should be illegal.

See what I did there?

EVERYBODY has negative experiences with different things. Your negative experience doesn't justify making something illegal for everybody.
But it's already illegal, why does it HAVE to be made legal? By that logic everything should be legal. Not everyone has bad experiences with meth, coke, or heroine so should those be legal too? Weed can be harmful, just like those harder drugs or alcohol or cigarettes. In my opinion I don't see a reason to make it legal and I'm not going to change my mind, it's just how I feel. The more we can make access to drugs (any drugs) more difficult, the better. I get what you're saying and I know I'm probably the minority but I just don't see a reason to legalize. Decriminalize I can understand, but that's a whole separate issue.
I think it's super silly to even compare marijuana to meth, coke or heroine. I get what you're trying to say that all things catagorized as drugs should be illegal. In my experience, I was raised around all of the above. My dad was a chronic weed smoker. My mom was a meth addict, coke addict, heroine, you name it. My dad raised me since day one, with my mom in and out sleeping with men for more money to score more crap. He's worked so unbelievably hard to provide for my sister and I. He was always there, every morning every night. All the food we could ever want or need in the fridge..one day when I was 13, the cops arrested my dad because he had enough weed to last him a little while (cheaper to buy it that way) my mom was the one that called them and so I went without my dad and a mom over weed? It wasn't for long but the concept is whyyyy spend time and money arresting and holding these so called "criminals". Even the BIGGEST pot heads can raise and create a loving family, work hard at their job and have fun in life. I know you've brought up how it's driving under the influence that bugs you but honestly I have to beg to differ. Drinking soda or a wrap while driving or texting is a hundred times scarier. Now from the point of view being in the life of a crack addict.. She drained MY savings account... Stole my fundraising money for school.. Sold my toys as a kid.. I know non of this is the point but just food for thought I suppose Sorry I had to rant and went off topic because I have so many thoughts and feelings about this subject it's too difficult to explain my point via mobile bumping!

QUOTE FAIL

My parents were very similar to your parents. My father was a chronic weed smoker and I hope H strives to be the father to LO that my father was to me. My mother has a very long harsh history that I do not want to get into; she is clean now but it took a lot to make her clean up.

We could almost be twins.

I know you both disagree with me but FTR, same family sitch here. Dad is still a weed smoker and mom finally got off what she was on. Not always a super fun life growing up but I still love them unconditionally and they're amazing with DD. I am sorry you both had to deal with some of the same things I did, I hope things are better for you and your family now.

lilqt3929 · April 2014

AbbyMMM said:
On a related note, DH and I still cuss like sailors around LO. Trying to phase it out - especially the emphasis on certain words. I will miss those words. "Holy shit" was my first phrase after birth.

This is us too. I didn't think it would be so hard to stop, I mean they're just words! I guess I should have started when I found out I was preggo.

AlejandraN2 · April 2014

@ilybeck was just thinking the same thing. Good to see us going on page 3 again! Also random question but just because I'm nosy, are people like revlaura and shanmarie active on the fb group you're in? Also another random question because you may know, but whatever happened to emmlyn?

My FFFC: I used to (and fine still do occasionally) read the trashiest of trashy novels. I'm talking things like "bound by ecstasy" and "the duke consumed me." I had a weird obsession with historical romances and dreamt about being married to a duke. Duchess Alexandra just has such a nice ring to it.

llybeck · April 2014

AlejandraN2 said:

@ilybeck was just thinking the same thing. Good to see us going on page 3 again! Also random question but just because I'm nosy, are people like revlaura and shanmarie active on the fb group you're in? Also another random question because you may know, but whatever happened to emmlyn?

My FFFC: I used to (and fine still do occasionally) read the trashiest of trashy novels. I'm talking things like "bound by ecstasy" and "the duke consumed me." I had a weird obsession with historical romances and dreamt about being married to a duke. Duchess Alexandra just has such a nice ring to it.

Rev and Shan are fairly active! Emmlyn, I don't know. I feel like she might be? I'd have to look but I kind of forgot about her on here. I miss her now that you brought her up...

Okay, another confession spinning off of yours... I could never read trashy novels. I mean, I want to but even just having the slightest sexual thoughts makes me insanely horny, it's ridiculous. I have no idea what my deal is but it takes next to nothing to get me going. I'm easy....

AlejandraN2 · April 2014

@ilybeck um I thought getting insanely horny was the whole point of those books..

Although with me it also doesn't take much.

JLMcWeeney · April 2014

I think recreational pot smoking is just fine. I would do it if it was legal. Not everyday like most pot smokers, but just every once in a while. The same way I drink alcohol.

hilalk · April 2014

Speaking f wine, I used to drink so much wine when I lived overseas. I loved it and knew a lot about it. Since we moved to US, I didn't buy a single bottle. In 5 years! I think it is because I am not familiar with the brands and I feel overwhelmed. Also, I like to drink wine with friends, which I don't have any here and my DH is a beer-drinker. This post made me miss it so much, I will by a bottle tomorrow and see the bottom of it!

Burrberrymum · April 2014

llybeck said:

lindszachary said:

Burrberrymum said:

allisonnn5 said:
@lindszachary‌ I used to smoke marijuana and it DID affect how I drove. It was hard to perceive how fast or how slow I was going and I would have to keep looking at the speedometer. I guess maybe everyone's different though? I don't know.
I used to smoke too and if anything it made me drive slower and more cautiously then when I didnt. I was more
llybeck said:

lindszachary said:

llybeck said:

lindszachary said:
@ilybeck There is nothing dangerous about marijuana. Most people who have the same feelings as you have not been around it. Marijuana doesn't cause people to be so enraged that they murder or beat their spouse. Marijuana doesn't cause traffic accidents (if you have ever smoked you would know this). Marijuana doesn't cause you to neglect your children for the "next fix" (even alcoholics do this). And sorry but marijuana is NOT addicting. You can also detect marijuana by doing an oral swab or a urine test. My mom is a CPS worker. When she needs to tell if somebody has smoked recently she does an oral swab. There is no reason a cop couldn't do this as well. If marijuana is illegal because it is dangerous, then YES alcohol should be as well. Alcohol is ten times more dangerous. If the government actually gave a shit about you, they would make alcohol illegal. The whole reason it was made illegal was for financial reasons. It would make other goods too cheap and destroy the lumber industry because hemp would have been cheap and in abundance.

Sources:
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/12/05/how-hemp-became-illegal-the-marijuana-link/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-teenage-mind/201012/is-marijuana-addictive
https://www.drugpolicy.org/drug-facts/10-facts-about-marijuana

ETA: I also believe that if marijuana was illegal, less people would go ape shit and murder everybody.

I've been around it a lot, A LOT. For basically my whole life and that's exactly where my feelings are coming from. Not everyone reacts the same way to it, I've been personally involved in situations that were very dangerous and harmful and the only factor involved was pot.

When I was a child I was around an alcoholic A LOT. Every time he got drunk he beat my mom and threatened to kill us all. Once he drove in oncoming traffic with all of us in the car and threatened to kill us if my mom didn't sleep with him that night. He caused my mom to go to the hospital and get stitches more than once. He bashed her in the face to the point that we thought she wouldn't be able to see out of that eye ever again.

So in MY experience alcohol should be illegal.

See what I did there?

EVERYBODY has negative experiences with different things. Your negative experience doesn't justify making something illegal for everybody.
But it's already illegal, why does it HAVE to be made legal? By that logic everything should be legal. Not everyone has bad experiences with meth, coke, or heroine so should those be legal too? Weed can be harmful, just like those harder drugs or alcohol or cigarettes. In my opinion I don't see a reason to make it legal and I'm not going to change my mind, it's just how I feel. The more we can make access to drugs (any drugs) more difficult, the better. I get what you're saying and I know I'm probably the minority but I just don't see a reason to legalize. Decriminalize I can understand, but that's a whole separate issue.

I think it's super silly to even compare marijuana to meth, coke or heroine. I get what you're trying to say that all things catagorized as drugs should be illegal.

In my experience, I was raised around all of the above. My dad was a chronic weed smoker. My mom was a meth addict, coke addict, heroine, you name it. My dad raised me since day one, with my mom in and out sleeping with men for more money to score more crap. He's worked so unbelievably hard to provide for my sister and I. He was always there, every morning every night. All the food we could ever want or need in the fridge..one day when I was 13, the cops arrested my dad because he had enough weed to last him a little while (cheaper to buy it that way) my mom was the one that called them and so I went without my dad and a mom over weed? It wasn't for long but the concept is whyyyy spend time and money arresting and holding these so called "criminals". Even the BIGGEST pot heads can raise and create a loving family, work hard at their job and have fun in life. I know you've brought up how it's driving under the influence that bugs you but honestly I have to beg to differ. Drinking soda or a wrap while driving or texting is a hundred times scarier. Now from the point of view being in the life of a crack addict.. She drained MY savings account... Stole my fundraising money for school.. Sold my toys as a kid.. I know non of this is the point but just food for thought I suppose

Sorry I had to rant and went off topic because I have so many thoughts and feelings about this subject it's too difficult to explain my point via mobile bumping!

QUOTE FAIL

My parents were very similar to your parents. My father was a chronic weed smoker and I hope H strives to be the father to LO that my father was to me. My mother has a very long harsh history that I do not want to get into; she is clean now but it took a lot to make her clean up.

We could almost be twins.

I know you both disagree with me but FTR, same family sitch here. Dad is still a weed smoker and mom finally got off what she was on. Not always a super fun life growing up but I still love them unconditionally and they're amazing with DD. I am sorry you both had to deal with some of the same things I did, I hope things are better for you and your family now.

I try to be as optimistic as I can and see my family falling apart as a learning experience to be the best mom that I can ever be! Tough times only make us stronger & much wiser

glad things got better for the both of you, it's not a fun life style to grow up in.

Burrberrymum · April 2014

I think this is a little tiny confession. I had wine ONCE since DD was born, and it was a kind my grandmother wanted me to try and it was sooooo bitter I wasted my entire glass. Yep.. Down the drain it went..

krose0713 · April 2014

I hugely judge/side eye parents of overweight young children. As a parent, you have almost exclusive control over your child's diet and activity level. Your child's health should be incentive enough to change your own bad habits if they are being passed on.

Burrberrymum · April 2014

allisonnn5 said:
I still watch Glee. X_X

S/O @llybeck‌ comment about getting horny easily, I wish that were me. I used to have a little sex drive but it has completely depleted to nothing. I want to want to have sexy time with DH, and the fact that I don't sucks. It's frustrating him too.

Have you thought about taking a Libido supplement? I was looking into it because I'm having the same issue and the reviews are great for femMED Libido. I'm pretty sure it's an all natural supplement too!

Burrberrymum · April 2014

allisonnn5 said:
@Burrberrymum‌ where could I get that? I had no idea those existed to be honest.

I seen it on Well.ca (my FAVE website) It has everything, from baby necessities to sexual wellness and all the natural/vegan products are labeled! But if you're outside of canada I'm not 100% sure if they ship.. maybe, maybe not? Worth taking a look though, I had no idea about the supplements either to be honest. I just came accross them not too long ago and got a little excited

TKtravels · April 2014

All this wine talk has me given me thirst. H is traveling and LO is finally asleep, so I think I'll have a glass or two of wine. The FFFC part? I'm drinking and pumping.

And in an attempt to rise to the juicy challenge, a bonus confession: some of the hottest sex I've ever had with H was inspired by a (university) student of mine. I still think about him while enjoying some quality time with myself too.

Burrberrymum · April 2014

allisonnn5 said:

Burrberrymum said:

allisonnn5 said:
@Burrberrymum‌ where could I get that? I had no idea those existed to be honest.
I seen it on Well.ca (my FAVE website) It has everything, from baby necessities to sexual wellness and all the natural/vegan products are labeled! But if you're outside of canada I'm not 100% sure if they ship.. maybe, maybe not? Worth taking a look though, I had no idea about the supplements either to be honest. I just came accross them not too long ago and got a little excited

I live in the US, but I'll check it out! I'm also not sure if I can take it while BFing though.

I was wondering the same thing.. If not at least it's an idea for the near future! Something to potentially look forward to trying.

munchkinsmama · April 2014

After LO went to sleep I drank a whole big bottle of wine between 7:30 and 11pm. I was so excited for sexy time I got into bed and striped down, unfortunately DH took to long cleaning up and brushing his teeth and I fell asleep. Flash forward to 2am LO decided to wake up I jumped out of bed slipped on my clothes and fell. I don't know the last time me and DH laughed so hard. Since we were all up anyway we had a 30 min snuggle fest before putting LO back to bed... then sexy time. My hang over this morning is not feeling so good (:|

AlejandraN2 · April 2014

munchkinsmama this is so something that would happen to me. You just cracked me up.

Salemkitty13 · April 2014

More Glee talk. @drey1028 @jnetx‌ @allisonnn5‌

I have this season on dvr and haven't watched much of it yet. I happened to see the episode last week(I think) with Gwyneth Paltrow. The Temple Grandin impersonation was tacky and offensive IMO Did you guys see that? What did you think? I usually approve of the way they portray persons with disabilities because they try to be "real" in their over the top way. But that skit seemed mean spirited. Maybe I'm hypersensitive?

krose0713 · April 2014

Temple Grandin is a very interesting woman, if you get a few free minutes give her a Google

Salemkitty13 · April 2014

allisonnn5 said:

More Glee talk. @drey1028 @jnetx‌ @allisonnn5‌
I have this season on dvr and haven't watched much of it yet. I happened to see the episode last week(I think) with Gwyneth Paltrow. The Temple Grandin impersonation was tacky and offensive IMO Did you guys see that? What did you think? I usually approve of the way they portray persons with disabilities because they try to be "real" in their over the top way. But that skit seemed mean spirited. Maybe I'm hypersensitive?
Honestly, I don't know who Temple Grandin is. I don't like Gwyneth paltrow's character at all either though. I think I just don't pay attention well enough because I can't remember them ending the Demi (or whatever her character's name was)/Santana romance, or them mentioning Finn.

Temple Grandin is a successful woman with autism. She works in animal science and is a professor at Colorado State University. Claire Danes portrayed her in a movie about her life.

That episode was all over the place and GPs character is annoying so you probably didn't notice. I work with children with special needs (mostly autism) so that sort of thing stands out to me. I'm glad people didn't seem to notice it.

VitaLuna · April 2014

lindszachary said:
Touché. By your reasoning everything should be illegal and by my reasoning everything should be legal.

I just find it bullshit that the government has brainwashed so many individuals into believing mariujana WILL cause you to do other drugs. They made mariujana illegal simply to make more money and keep the rate of inflation up. Mariujana needs to be legalized AT LEAST for the production of goods. This would decrease the amount of trees being cut down, the amount of animals becoming extinct, and reduce our carbon footprint significantly. This would also bring about cheaper goods, which means people would be able to buy things cheaper (even gas, they can use hemp oil to fuel cars). This means less people would live below poverty!!

Mariujana could do so much good! But because so many Americans have been brain washed to think it is dangerous, the big CEO are making tons of money from us.

There is a legit reason to make this legal. There was no legit reason to make alcohol legal. The prohibition of alcohol brought about a ton of black market deals. Well, the mariujana prohibition is doing the same thing.

Mariujana is the future of our country. Mariujana could reduce the rate of crime, reduce the amount of money we spend on crime, reduce the amount of pollutants in the air, and save our country's ass from some of our debt. Legalize it and tax it! Produce hemp related products!

*steps off soapbox"

Your attempts at persuasion are greatly hampered by your inability to spell marijuana.

mrsmoxie · April 2014

I can't stand glee either. I tried, I watched an episode awhile back. But seriously, all it is is them singing karaoke to famous songs originally sung better by other artists.

lilqt3929 · April 2014

I use LOs burp cloth as a napkin sometimes.

HisChamaoleGirl · April 2014

I judge my Facebook friends for posting pictures of their kids in car seats when I see the straps are loose or the buckle is on their tummy.

atcwag · April 2014

HisChamaoleGirl said:
I judge my Facebook friends for posting pictures of their kids in car seats when I see the straps are loose or the buckle is on their tummy.

Seriously, this drives me CRAZY!

Alright ladies, I've been gone for a few days. I see I was beckoned here back on page 2 from UO.

Keeping in mind my highly difficult BFing experience, I get highly annoyed with moms who don't even attempt BFing.

Burrberrymum · April 2014

HisChamaoleGirl said:
I judge my Facebook friends for posting pictures of their kids in car seats when I see the straps are loose or the buckle is on their tummy.

My SIL came over and when she was leaving, I noticed she doesn't even have the straps tight on her LO.. It wasn't even just like able to be pinched it was legitely so loose you could see the straps hanging down, and could probably fit a teddy bear in with her. I was waiting for her to pull the strap to tighten but nope... Nothing. She then just stuffed a bunch of fluffy blankets all over her and left.

I'm confessing that I didn't even say a word... I would have felt SOO guilty if something happened.

atcwag · April 2014

Burrberrymum said:

HisChamaoleGirl said:
I judge my Facebook friends for posting pictures of their kids in car seats when I see the straps are loose or the buckle is on their tummy.
My SIL came over and when she was leaving, I noticed she doesn't even have the straps tight on her LO.. It wasn't even just like able to be pinched it was legitely so loose you could see the straps hanging down, and could probably fit a teddy bear in with her. I was waiting for her to pull the strap to tighten but nope... Nothing. She then just stuffed a bunch of fluffy blankets all over her and left.

I'm confessing that I didn't even say a word... I would have felt SOO guilty if something happened.

I feel like it's such a double-edged sword. You don't want to attack their parenting skills, but you would obviously feel horrible if something happened. Sometimes I truly wonder though, is it laziness, lack of knowledge, or what?!?! I mean, it's called a CHEST clip for gosh sakes! I have an aquantaince who posted a picture of her 1 year old, forward facing in a bulky winter coat with chest clip in the belly and straps super loose. I mean, talk about the quadfecta....Her 4 year old is also in a no back booster. Ouch!

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