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  • BbyCarter13BbyCarter13 member
    Dang it. I had one on Tuesday and it was really good.
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    Pitchslap said:

    I don't get why people become die hard fans of college teams they have absolutely no affiliation with.

    Going there, a close friend/loved one going there, living close so you attend games is one thing but I mean like "oh 'Bama has been good at football for a while... maroon and white and elephants everywhere! Roll tide for life!!"

    Yesssssss!!! 150% agree! My hubby likes to root for LSU because a guy from his hometown (who he didn't even personally know) played for them years ago. Drives me nuts.

    However, I will say if you live in/are from the state where the school is located I get it.

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  • chelsmclchelsmcl member
    @Sympkin‌ I'm not saying they should be fully covered but having anything, even the first RE consultation covered or really great tax breaks would be nice. Although wait times are the biggest issue right now.
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  • Monkeybutt80Monkeybutt80 member
    on the topic of college sports...  I just don't get it; it's amateur hour/ bush league football/ basketball.... I like the tournament gambling aspect of march madness but I never understand why people choose to watch sub-par level sports.  NFL and NBA for lyfe. 

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  • WasNotWasWasNotWas member
    Cricket81 said:
    This. All of this. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5062838?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

    I disagree a little. When we were kids our parents didn't have to compete with the technology our children are/will be exposed to. The distractions kids are faced with today is so much more than we ever did, so while "not playing with your kids" may be what our parents did, doing that now might result in your kid getting into something you don't want them in (which, I know, could lead to an important life lesson, but I'd rather that lesson not be that naked selfies last forever).

    The details of a birthday party and such are very competitive and overboard, especially at this age, but I don't think you can phone it in like the author describes her parents doing. I really think you have to engage your kids if you want to impact them...

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    WasNotWas said:
    Monkeybutt80 said:
    on the topic of college sports...  I just don't get it; it's amateur hour/ bush league football/ basketball.... I like the tournament gambling aspect of march madness but I never understand why people choose to watch sub-par level sports.  NFL and NBA for lyfe. 

    Non-professional athletes play with a lot more heart than the pros. And when it comes to basketball, college wins for one reason: defense
    Yep. I have heard that argument. But I don't watch sports for the "heart" I watch sports for the entertainment. For example, I watch movies because the movie itself is fun and exciting not because the actors and behind the scene people poured their heart and soul into it. 
    Also, defense heavy games are boring because it's not high scoring which is another reason why I don't watch college basketball.  
    But I know college basketball and college football are ridiculously popular everywhere; but honestly I laugh at people who spend their saturdays watching amateur college football; sundays are for football not saturdays, silly. 

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    Edit: Apparently I'm signed in under my theknot profile.. reposting under my TB name to avoid confusion.  
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    Steamboat1679 said:

    Oh and I hate Disney. I do not get how a vacation there is fun. I understand this may change, but currently the idea makes me cringe.


    Agree. If it weren't for my parents owning a winter home 45 minutes away from disney world I wouldn't go unless the kids asked. Ds1 (3) loves mickey and all of those characters so we bring him there for one day whenever we go visit my parents.
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  • Monkeybutt80Monkeybutt80 member
    kread8 said:
    on the topic of college sports...  I just don't get it; it's amateur hour/ bush league football/ basketball.... I like the tournament gambling aspect of march madness but I never understand why people choose to watch sub-par level sports.  NFL and NBA for lyfe. 

    This is a wildly unpopular opinion in my house. I don't know how anyone can say watching nba games is more entertaining than college ones. To me it's clear that nba players are mostly there for the fame and the big salary and don't really play to win/with heart (I said most, not all - I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule). College bball has WAY more last second shot games. Andplusalso, the tournament one and done set up makes it far more likely that there will be upsets (case in point - duke this year). However, I will agree with your statement in regards to nfl vs college football.
    It is probably the most unpopular opinion that I have. My friends think I am crazy too (some are UVA fans, some are longhorns, some are Vtech fans and my In laws are Penn State fans - BIL went to Penn State). My husband and I, who both went to non-football or basketball college (we were all about hockey and lax at our college) get mocked all the time for voicing our opinions on college sports!

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  • numbersgirl08numbersgirl08 member
    Hmmm.  

    As an actuary who works in insurance, but NOT in health insurance, I have opinions on what are truly insurable causes of loss.  But health insurance has long since ceased to be true insurance, so it probably doesn't matter whether it is an insurable cause of loss or not.  So while I think that TRUE insurance wouldn't cover things like birth control or infertility treatments - health insurance isn't true insurance anymore and there are clearly things it is trying to achieve beyond just providing insurance.

    Regarding college teams - I'm of the opinion that fans who jump on the bandwagon are lame.  Maybe because I grew up in the south and went to a school that didn't have people who jumped on our bandwagon but EVERYone cheers for like one of 4 schools and about 5% of the people I know that are fans actually went to that school.  It's annoying to me.  I get what it's like to go to a school and be very tied to that school and have school spirit.  I just don't get why people care if they don't have ties to the school.  I can understand it if family members went there or whatnot, but just because you live in the state still doesn't make sense to me.

    Also, I don't get being a fan of a whole conference.  Be a fan of a school and cheer for that school.  Why cheer for a whole conference?

    Oh and I don't like Disney either.  We'll probably take our kids there once but it just seems like a big headache to me.  I went about a year and a half ago for a work conference thing and the whole time we were there, both hubby and I were like "how is this fun?"  haha.

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  • chelsmclchelsmcl member
    @Sympkin does your province cover fertility? Mine does not, that's why I don't get your UO. If your province doesn't and you're saying it shouldn't then it's kind of a moo point
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    @monkeybutt80 You would not like me then, because I don't watch football on Sundays anymore only on Saturdays. It is my opinion that college games are more exciting due to the fans, chants, and heart compared to NFL fans.  And I used to watch football on Sundays, but my team the Buccaneers had blackouts for the area for the past several years. :( 
    Andplusalso, I would much rather watch a soccer game, and they are very low scoring, with lots of defense. Probably my UO since I'm pretty sure most Americans hate soccer.
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    Sympkin said:
    @ChelsRy1‌ Again that's why I'm pro tax credits because it is "something" without getting bogged down in the details. It can also be implemented without having to be constantly updated, as nothing mucks up the system more than new methods or technologies that have to wait to be approved for coverage. @flerlgirl‌ Covering IVF is certainly more 'fair' for those who have a chance to get pregnant through IVF but what about those who know they can't carry a child? Quebec covers IVF but you are out of luck, and thousands of dollars, if you pursue international adoption. The overriding problem is one of not having a child and it is often not one solved by medical intervention. For ChelsRy again. The reason I'm mentioning it is because I have some people crusading for it on my FB but I don't think it actually solves the issue. And why I mentioned in my OP that tax credits is probably the way to go. Sadly most of the people I know who have been open about their fertility problems would not actually be helped by the Quebec program.
    So...again... they should cover nothing instead? People who can conceive through IVF get punished? I know the system isn't perfect. No system is. But I just don't get the logic here. Medicaid doesn't cover a lot of J's medical expenses because they consider us too well-off (LOL) to qualify for some programs. So should we take away all of those programs just because some of us can't take advantage of them? I think it's wrong that I am not covered. But I have several friends whose kids are covered. Why should they now suffer because of how much money I make? 

    I agree with you that the current solution isn't great. But yours is equally bad. 

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    TheTamedShrew said:
    I'm started to dislike all the threads/polls lately about "is your LO doing [blank] yet?" because they make me obsess about E being behind. When I saw the walking thread I was all image
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    itsStackie said:
    @monkeybutt80 You would not like me then, because I don't watch football on Sundays anymore only on Saturdays. It is my opinion that college games are more exciting due to the fans, chants, and heart compared to NFL fans.  And I used to watch football on Sundays, but my team the Buccaneers had blackouts for the area for the past several years. :( 
    Andplusalso, I would much rather watch a soccer game, and they are very low scoring, with lots of defense. Probably my UO since I'm pretty sure most Americans hate soccer.
    that's exactly why I cannot watch soccer!!!  During World Cup, the entire nation where I grew up goes nuts.  I mean, like people party in the streets after every win.  Stores, restaurants close because no one wants to work during the games.  But I still can't watch it... I get so bored...  
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  • momofcatanmomofcatan member
    I think I see where @Sympkin‌ is coming from in that IVF is not a medically necessary treatment. Maybe there are exceptions, but in general our (Canadian) insurance doesn't cover anything considered optional/not medically necessary. In the end a tax credit or insurance converge all come from the government, so I don't think is actually makes a difference (except that it is a lot easier to cap a tax credit at a dollar amount). My understanding is that you do get some sort of tax credits for almost anything medical related that you pay for out of pocket (prescriptions, chiropractor etc.) so my guess is there is some sort of credit for IVF. I should ask my dad (tax accountant).

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    Sympkin said:
    @ChelsRy1‌ Again that's why I'm pro tax credits because it is "something" without getting bogged down in the details. It can also be implemented without having to be constantly updated, as nothing mucks up the system more than new methods or technologies that have to wait to be approved for coverage. @flerlgirl‌ Covering IVF is certainly more 'fair' for those who have a chance to get pregnant through IVF but what about those who know they can't carry a child? Quebec covers IVF but you are out of luck, and thousands of dollars, if you pursue international adoption. The overriding problem is one of not having a child and it is often not one solved by medical intervention. For ChelsRy again. The reason I'm mentioning it is because I have some people crusading for it on my FB but I don't think it actually solves the issue. And why I mentioned in my OP that tax credits is probably the way to go. Sadly most of the people I know who have been open about their fertility problems would not actually be helped by the Quebec program.
    Wait! Can't you adopt a child from Canada? Is that covered? Because that makes sense- not that we shouldn't help kids around the world, but I know at least in the US system, if the kids we DO have "in the system" were each adopted (say one to every family with infertility issues) we likely wouldn't have kids "in the system". If you're adopting "out of country" then why should you have that covered? You're not lowering the burden on "the state", you're increasing it/keeping it level. 

    I guess my UO is that I'm sad that people adopt out of their own countries when we have so many kids here that deserve families too. Yes, I get that many may come with baggage, but I still get sad about it.
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    Damn box... @justplaneloved I understand that domestic adoption has its drawbacks, but my point was from a governmental funding point of view, it doesn't make financial sense to credit or fund international adoption. I'm not saying that every family who wants a child doesn't deserve a newborn. I am saying it's sad how many kids who have lost their families through no fault of their own are never given another chance. If we had the resources to adopt an older child, I absolutely would. 
    My wish is for ALL kids to have homes and families. My dad was born in Puerto Rico, and his "aunt" is not blood related to us at all- her parents passed away when she was a young child, and my great-grandmother took her in and raised her as a member of the family. That's how things were done then, and there. 
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    araziza said:

    I think I see where @Sympkin‌ is coming from in that IVF is not a medically necessary treatment. Maybe there are exceptions, but in general our (Canadian) insurance doesn't cover anything considered optional/not medically necessary. In the end a tax credit or insurance converge all come from the government, so I don't think is actually makes a difference (except that it is a lot easier to cap a tax credit at a dollar amount). My understanding is that you do get some sort of tax credits for almost anything medical related that you pay for out of pocket (prescriptions, chiropractor etc.) so my guess is there is some sort of credit for IVF. I should ask my dad (tax accountant).

    Our insurance covers so many non necessary treatments and surgeries it's ridiculous, if you look at all the things that her covered the fact that will cover no part of fertility expenses is crazy.

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