UO

Rocknroll64 · April 2014

kramja01 said:

I hate "forced" charity. I belong to a community organization that does very little actual volunteering/community service. I belong because all the other local attorneys/politicians/business people do. (The President Judge in our County actually called me on my second day of work and told me I needed to join) What do we do? Sell tickets (or, in my case, buy the entire pack because I HATE selling things) to stupid spaghetti dinners or pig roasts or basket raffles to support community events. Good in theory, but in practice it just milks the same people over and over. Nobody really wants to go eat crappy spaghetti in a fire hall. I wish they would just ask for a standard donation and get it over with.

Now actual volunteering, for a cause/organization I believe in, I'm totally on board with.

ahh I totally agree. When I was at a big firm they had this volunteer work push and how much you volunteered actually held weight during your performance reviews. I did it just to get a better performance rating and hated it.

mileswithmyles · April 2014

Re: People commenting on your appearance while pregnant:

I just wish they would ask themselves if they are being helpful. Most of my comments have come from people I know or work with. Being told you look like you are going to pop when you still have 7 weeks to go makes me want to cry. Or having someone make fun of the way you walk by "imitating" you, which makes you look like the Michelin Man/Frankenstein.

Being told you look huge is not a compliment in any case. If you wouldn't say it to someone when they aren't pregnant, you shouldn't say it while they are.

Helmink0804 · April 2014

I didn't like the HIMYM series finale.

fatbarbie0226 · April 2014

This is definitely a UO.
I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet.
You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me.
I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

andoll8 · April 2014

fatbarbie0226 said:

This is definitely a UO. I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet. You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me. I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

i'm confused: how is this different than having a baby?

N0nSequitur · April 2014

hfooter · April 2014

IBackBevo said:
I wish they would ban smoking at my place of employment. I hate smoking even though I am a former smoker. I hate walking outside of my building and being hit with a wall of smoke as soon as I step outside. I hate getting on the elevator and the smoke being so heavy that I feel like I still smell like smoke ten minutes later sitting in my office. And I really hate getting on the elevator with smell of smoke plus body odor. That makes me want to vomit.

Ditto. But I wish it was illegal to smoke in public anywhere. In the comfort of your own home/back and front yard, fine. But why should I be subjected to your second hand smoke while walking into a store or down a street. Doesn't make any sense.

N0nSequitur · April 2014

Bootsie327 · April 2014

RachelCA29 said:

lindseylu10 said:

Ok brah (since I'm a dude you can be a brah) all I was saying is that a total stranger saying "you're so big" may very well not be the incredible insult so many take it to be. That's all, as I said earlier, if it is someone you know that is saying the rude, ignorant things that is another story but that one little phrase from someone you have literally never met is probably not meant to take your self-esteem down.

I guess the point is, when is it EVER okay to make a comment like "you're so big" to ANYONE. It's unnecessary. I understand a total stranger might not mean offense by saying it, but it still kind of stings to hear that, when 8 months pregnant or if you feel even 2 pounds overweight when not pregnant.

I think when people on TB comment about stuff like that, it's less "this asshole called me fat" kind of statement and more "can you believe how socially inappropriate this person is making a comment like that."

I agree that in general, many people take offense to things that they would be happier if they let slide. People think that feeling offended is some sort of infringement on their basic rights (it's not, sometimes not everything in life makes you feel like farting rainbows). But I do think that being pregnant is not the most comfortable state to be in sometimes, so your skin thins a bit regarding people's need to comment on your weight, progress, skin texture. etc. It also seems to coincide with the fact that being pregnant seems to make people think these are actually appropriate topics for public conversation with basic strangers. Like a pregnant woman/belly is somehow public property.

All of this. Well said. I have absolutely no problem with people making small talk like "when are you due?" etc, and in fact, I generally really appreciate it. With that said, I don't think "people being awkward about pregnancy" is a good enough excuse for straight-up rude comments about someone's appearance.

ebox322 · April 2014

ABColeslaw said:

kitchencolors said:

lindseylu10 said:

lindseylu10 said:

I'm seriously annoyed by all the pregnant women getting SOOO butt hurt over perfect strangers comments. I know it's hard to believe but not everyone is out to get you and hurt your feelings... People say "you're so big" because you are 8 months pregnant and have a HUMAN in your belly and you probably are SOOO big (I know I am). I get if it's your MIL making the comment or something but from a perfect stranger, just get over yourself and realize it's really probably not about you... People are just awkward around pregnant women.

People are awkward around people with disabilities too. And it's probably not about the person with the disability, it's about the person making the comment and their ignorance. That doesn't mean they should say whatever comes into their head. I guess I'm just not sure where to draw the line about when comments or stares are okay if this is the way it's framed.
Are we really comparing pregnancy and a disability right now??? Not even remotely the same. For the record no, I do not think it is ok for people to make ignorant comments to the disabled...

FFS, you don't need to get all worked up about it. I said in my comment that I didn't know where the line was between what you said and applying the same logic to a different situation.

I think Kitchen knows this given that she is close to someone with a disability, as are all the other moms on here who have children that people stare at and make rude comments about. The point is, people are friggan awkward and socially unintelligent, that doesn't make it okay to let stupid shit and ignorance fly out of your face on the regular.
And I second the FFS. Calm down dude.

I agree totally, whatever happened to "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"

lindseylu10 · April 2014

That's the thing though, for a lot of people, especially older generations, saying a pregnant woman is big is meant as a compliment and not meant to be rude. I guess I am of the school of thought that we should give some people the benefit of the doubt. This was never about actual rude comments but more about making a big deal out of something that was meant to be a compliment. My grandma told me I looked so "big and healthy" the other day and absolutely meant it in a great way. If a stranger calls you a "fatso" as someone mentioned earlier you should be able to punch that person in the face. This whole thing was never about those comments.

MunchkinMoon · April 2014

lindseylu10 said:
I'm seriously annoyed by all the pregnant women getting SOOO butt hurt over perfect strangers comments. I know it's hard to believe but not everyone is out to get you and hurt your feelings... People say "you're so big" because you are 8 months pregnant and have a HUMAN in your belly and you probably are SOOO big (I know I am). I get if it's your MIL making the comment or something but from a perfect stranger, just get over yourself and realize it's really probably not about you... People are just awkward around pregnant women.

So it's totally acceptable to have a stranger come up to me and say "congratulations! Do you know who the father is?", "oh! Was it planned?", and flat-out bending down towards my belly and talking to my vagina, and me not be offended by it? I'm sorry, I know people have no tact or filter, and yes, I've learned to brush off these insensitive and ignorant comments. But not everyone has a thick skin, and sometimes a pregnant woman might be having an extra emotional day, or have her own shit going on... To then have some asshat stranger add their own unappreciated and unwarranted .02.

I know most of the time it's not out of malice, but my pregnancy and their awkwardnes with the subject is no excuse to say whatever is on their minds. Is that acceptable anywhere else? To say whatever tactless and tasteless comment they want in front of people they feel uncomfortable with? My best friend is gay and holds hands with his BF in public. Sure, they get odd looks, but I don't see these awkward strangers making rude and unacceptable comments.

Oh, and the conversation went like this:

Imbecile: congratulations! Do you know who the father is?
Me: yeah. My husband.
Imbecile: oh- sorry! I didn't see a wedding ring.
Me: yeah. Because I'm pregnant and my fingers are bloated.
Imbecile: wow. You should probably drink more water and not be eating here (I was in line at Cosi at Georgetown between classes).

Sorry, long vent. But it pisses me off. I laugh it off but I could see how people could get butthurt. Especially while dealing with eating disorders/body image issues/all the other stuff we already have to worry about.

/end

lindseylu10 · April 2014

OMG this was about strangers saying you're so big, not any other conversation anyone is having! All these conversations everyone keeps posting are awful but not even remotely what I was talking about. If you need to vent about the stuff people say to you there is a whole big long thread about it called "Shit people say"...

fatbarbie0226 · April 2014

hhegyesi said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

This is definitely a UO.
I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet.
You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me.
I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

i'm confused: how is this different than having a baby?

Seriously? You just compared a dog scooting his wormy, itchy ass across the carpet to a precious child learning how to be mobile? Biiiiiig difference.

MunchkinMoon · April 2014

OMG! Your original comment was "I'm seriously annoyed by all the pregnant women getting SOOO butt hurt over perfect strangers comments. I know it's hard to believe but not everyone is out to get you and hurt your feelings..." And then you provided the "big" comment as an example.

And yes, I'm fully aware of all of the different posts we have on this board. I've been here since the beginning. But I was replying to your UO.

IBackBevo · April 2014

I agree and disagree on the pregnancy/size comments.

I agree that there isn't really any reason to get butthurt, but I disagree on the fact that that doesn't make it any less rude. Unfortunately, people are stupid and are going to make comments. It just is what it is. I don't think any of us should take it too personally even though it sometimes feels that way. For whatever unknown reason, people think that when you are pregnant that gives them free reign to make comments on your size (or otherwise) that they never would make if you weren't pregnant. I also agree that most of these comments are not meant by the speaker to offend. I say this partially because I was probably guilty of telling a women she was big prior to being pregnant myself. Nonetheless, they usually are offensive.

I just wish I could come up with the perfect "come back" to these comments that would show they are being insensitive without being outright rude or preachy to them...something comical.

pistolpackinmomma · April 2014

lindseylu10 said:

OMG this was about strangers saying you're so big, not any other conversation anyone is having! All these conversations everyone keeps posting are awful but not even remotely what I was talking about. If you need to vent about the stuff people say to you there is a whole big long thread about it called "Shit people say"...

Sorry but even saying you're so big is never a compliment. Sorry but it's just rude. I agree with PP that if you wouldn't say it to a non pregnant person then why is it ok to say it to me just because I have a little human inside of me? I hate that because I am pregnant my weight is topic for conversation, even small talk with strangers. I don't understand being awkward around pregnant women. We are the same person we were before it's just that we are in the process of creating a kid. The end. Ask me when I'm due. Ask me how I'm feeling. And as annoying as it is tell me at least I don't have to deal with the super hot summer heat. Those are all acceptable. I don't know when it is ever acceptable to tell a woman how big she is. Or anyone for that matter.

pandadair · April 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:

lindseylu10 said:

OMG this was about strangers saying you're so big, not any other conversation anyone is having! All these conversations everyone keeps posting are awful but not even remotely what I was talking about. If you need to vent about the stuff people say to you there is a whole big long thread about it called "Shit people say"...

Sorry but even saying you're so big is never a compliment. Sorry but it's just rude. I agree with PP that if you wouldn't say it to a non pregnant person then why is it ok to say it to me just because I have a little human inside of me? I hate that because I am pregnant my weight everything is topic for conversation, even small talk with strangers. I don't understand being awkward around pregnant women. We are the same person we were before it's just that we are in the process of creating a kid. The end. Ask me when I'm due. Ask me how I'm feeling. And as annoying as it is tell me at least I don't have to deal with the super hot summer heat. Those are all acceptable. I don't know when it is ever acceptable to tell a woman how big she is. Or anyone for that matter.

Sorry, had to amend. In the last week, I've had two different co-workers (both guys, no less) basically tell me how shitty it is to not breast feed. Just because I have a fetus in me does NOT mean that I want to discuss anything having to do with my vagina, nipples or breasts with random people. Not your damn business. The funny part is, I do plan to BF (or at least try), but I get so defensive in these conversations. Do they just assume I'm stupid and don't know how to decide these things for myself? Like, I know better than her, so let me educate her on her own body and her own child?

pistolpackinmomma · April 2014

@pandadair‌ so true. I was only addressing the weight because that was what her whole issue was about, people complaining about comments on weight. Evidently we can only vent about the other things in the shit people say thread. 8-|

MunchkinMoon · April 2014

@pistolpackinmomma‌ OBVIOUSLY.

pistolpackinmomma · April 2014

fatbarbie0226 said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

This is definitely a UO. I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet. You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me. I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

i'm confused: how is this different than having a baby?
Seriously? You just compared a dog scooting his wormy, itchy ass across the carpet to a precious child learning how to be mobile? Biiiiiig difference.

Maybe my dog is weird but in the 6 years we've had her she has never scooted on the carpet/any floor or had worms. I don't think it's quite so common for dogs to have these issues. None of the dogs I've ever had have scooted.

pistolpackinmomma · April 2014

Oh and I've seen way more toddler poop smeared on the wall (luckily not my walls, yet) than I have dogs scooting on carpet. Just sayin.....

MunchkinMoon · April 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:
Oh and I've seen way more toddler poop smeared on the wall (luckily not my walls, yet) than I have dogs scooting on carpet. Just sayin.....

Haha that is awesome yet terrifying. Reminds me of the placenta paintings.

IBackBevo · April 2014

pandadair said:

Sorry, had to amend. In the last week, I've had two different co-workers (both guys, no less) basically tell me how shitty it is to not breast feed. Just because I have a fetus in me does NOT mean that I want to discuss anything having to do with my vagina, nipples or breasts with random people. Not your damn business. The funny part is, I do plan to BF (or at least try), but I get so defensive in these conversations. Do they just assume I'm stupid and don't know how to decide these things for myself? Like, I know better than her, so let me educate her on her own body and her own child?

I find this to be so true of so many people. I get this a lot from the over 50 crowd. The funny thing is, most of the time what they say is wrong or outdated. I get so tired of both my own parents and my in-laws "educating" me on things like I am some sort of moron only to know what they are telling me is complete hogwash. This annoys me to no end. Especially when done in a very judgmental manner.

cbrust · April 2014

Helmink0804 said:

I didn't like the HIMYM series finale.

I don't think that's a UO! I think it would be more unpopular if you DID like it..

pandadair · April 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:

Oh and I've seen way more toddler poop smeared on the wall (luckily not my walls, yet) than I have dogs scooting on carpet. Just sayin.....

Yeah, but have you ever had your kid eat their own poop and then barf it up on the floor? My dog loved to do that.

ykristos · April 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

hhegyesi said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

This is definitely a UO.
I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet.
You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me.
I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

i'm confused: how is this different than having a baby?
Seriously? You just compared a dog scooting his wormy, itchy ass across the carpet to a precious child learning how to be mobile? Biiiiiig difference.

Maybe my dog is weird but in the 6 years we've had her she has never scooted on the carpet/any floor or had worms. I don't think it's quite so common for dogs to have these issues. None of the dogs I've ever had have scooted.

Same. My dog also doesn't pee or poop in the house because I trained him not to? So that settles that.

UO: I cringe when people refer to their kids as "precious children" and the like in instances such as these. Come on, let go of the pearls.

hfooter · April 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

This is definitely a UO. I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet. You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me. I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

i'm confused: how is this different than having a baby?
Seriously? You just compared a dog scooting his wormy, itchy ass across the carpet to a precious child learning how to be mobile? Biiiiiig difference.

Maybe my dog is weird but in the 6 years we've had her she has never scooted on the carpet/any floor or had worms. I don't think it's quite so common for dogs to have these issues. None of the dogs I've ever had have scooted.

My dog has never scooted. He did get worms once, but there were no side effects (no accidents in the house etc) and we just gave him antibiotics or whatever they gave me to give to him.

My cat is old and is not grooming himself as well as he used too. But I foresee this happing to me in the future and hope my kids don't keep me in the garage or outside in fear I will mess up their sparkly clean home (which if they take after me wont happen anyway).

I think there is something weird with people who get pets and don't incorporate them into their family. Sure, if it's a working dog on a farm I can see why maybe you wouldn't. But just getting a pet for your family and then making it hang out in the garage and outside is just weird. I say get a lizard if you want to confine your "pet" to a specific area in fear it will mess with your home. Or, don't get a pet at all.

Rocknroll64 · April 2014

@fatbarbie0226 There's a lot of nasty shit that kids drag into the house, as do you and your husband. I think people dirtiness is just as gross as dog dirtiness. I've caught my husband shaving over the bathroom floor and leaving it. Not kidding.

Most people clean their dogs off before they let them in the house if they are that dirty. I've also never seen my dog drag his butt across our floor. Ever. I know some dogs do this, but I have yet to see it.

I don't really understand what the point of getting a dog is if you're just going to leave him outside the entire time. Maybe get a hamster, they're caged so you don't have to worry about getting your house dirty.

pistolpackinmomma · April 2014

pandadair said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Oh and I've seen way more toddler poop smeared on the wall (luckily not my walls, yet) than I have dogs scooting on carpet. Just sayin.....

Yeah, but have you ever had your kid eat their own poop and then barf it up on the floor? My dog loved to do that.

My dog is gross. She used to eat it but never barfed it back up. She also enjoys cow shit but that just gives her the shits later on. Which is why she's not allowed to go to the farm unless DH will be home the next day, I don't do runny dog poop. My kid did however smear his pacifier through the poop as I was changing him and I stopped him just short of putting it in his mouth! So gross.

awc1986 · April 2014

pandadair said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

lindseylu10 said:

OMG this was about strangers saying you're so big, not any other conversation anyone is having! All these conversations everyone keeps posting are awful but not even remotely what I was talking about. If you need to vent about the stuff people say to you there is a whole big long thread about it called "Shit people say"...

Sorry but even saying you're so big is never a compliment. Sorry but it's just rude. I agree with PP that if you wouldn't say it to a non pregnant person then why is it ok to say it to me just because I have a little human inside of me? I hate that because I am pregnant my weight everything is topic for conversation, even small talk with strangers. I don't understand being awkward around pregnant women. We are the same person we were before it's just that we are in the process of creating a kid. The end. Ask me when I'm due. Ask me how I'm feeling. And as annoying as it is tell me at least I don't have to deal with the super hot summer heat. Those are all acceptable. I don't know when it is ever acceptable to tell a woman how big she is. Or anyone for that matter.

Sorry, had to amend. In the last week, I've had two different co-workers (both guys, no less) basically tell me how shitty it is to not breast feed. Just because I have a fetus in me does NOT mean that I want to discuss anything having to do with my vagina, nipples or breasts with random people. Not your damn business. The funny part is, I do plan to BF (or at least try), but I get so defensive in these conversations. Do they just assume I'm stupid and don't know how to decide these things for myself? Like, I know better than her, so let me educate her on her own body and her own child?

easiest way to get out of that conversation….

lindseylu10 · April 2014

Vent away but please know that I wasn't even remotely talking about obviously rude questions. I apologize if I inadvertently made it seem that I think all asshole comments made to pregnant women are acceptable, not my intention. Really really wishing I would have kept my UO to my big self! $:\$ ">

MunchkinMoon · April 2014

@lindseylu10‌, no biggie.

(HAHAHAHA)

IBackBevo · April 2014

Another UO: I don't necessarily buy into "if my doctor isn't concerned, I should not be concerned." If I had followed this advice with my first pregnancy (had severe pree and iugr that went undiagnosed way too long), I don't know if either my son or I would be here today. I find doctors range dramatically from being way too laid back to overly contentious.

As for the dog/kid discussion: My dog is way grosser than my kid. I now have pieces of a raccoon corpse all over my backyard. This morning, the tail and a jaw bone appeared on our porch. My son does not play with dead corpses. Also, he doesn't eat shit either. Any dog I have ever had has thought the cat's litter box = crunchy snack that was soft and warm in the middle. No amount of reprimanding can keep them away. The deliciousness is too tempting. Even my 19 month old son has been taught and now knows not to play in the litter box.

delatl · April 2014

I completely respect people not wanting pets in their homes. I had to give my cats to my parents because my DH's allergies were too bad from them. But I don't understand getting pets and not letting them be part of your family (i.e. in the house). That would make me really sad for the pets. Most (not all) pets are really social creatures and want to be a part of things. I do think there are some pets that live on farms and in barns and are kind of half wild/half domesticated, but the garage doesn't seem fair to me as a place for pets. I agree that if you don't want the mess in your house, a fish or hamster in a cage or something makes more sense.

hfooter · April 2014

delatl said:

I completely respect people not wanting pets in their homes. I had to give my cats to my parents because my DH's allergies were too bad from them. But I don't understand getting pets and not letting them be part of your family (i.e. in the house). That would make me really sad for the pets. Most (not all) pets are really social creatures and want to be a part of things. I do think there are some pets that live on farms and in barns and are kind of half wild/half domesticated, but the garage doesn't seem fair to me as a place for pets. I agree that if you don't want the mess in your house, a fish or hamster in a cage or something makes more sense.

Exactly.

Empireceo · April 2014

Dogs are gross. Kids are gross. You should probably take that into consideration before bringing either into your house. Also, I have a thick skin. I'll still tell a stranger to fuck off if they say something ignorant or offensive, especially unsolicited.

andoll8 · April 2014

ykristos said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

fatbarbie0226 said:

This is definitely a UO. I love animals. All kinds. But I can't stand them in the house. The fur and dander everywhere, the butt scooting across the carpet, the pee and poop and puke... I just can't. Don't even get me started on letting the dogs and cats have the bed or lick the baby's face. Yuck! Yeah, I know kids are messy, sometimes more than the pets. They have pee and poop and puke too. But there's a big difference in cleaning up my kid's junk and just keeping the pet outside where he can be a pet. You can always tell that there are animals in a home, no matter how much the homeowner cleans. It's just not for me. I can't wait to get my kids a dog and a cat. When we have a nice yard and a garage where the pets can live happily and stay off my couches, carpet, bed...

i'm confused: how is this different than having a baby?
Seriously? You just compared a dog scooting his wormy, itchy ass across the carpet to a precious child learning how to be mobile? Biiiiiig difference.

Maybe my dog is weird but in the 6 years we've had her she has never scooted on the carpet/any floor or had worms. I don't think it's quite so common for dogs to have these issues. None of the dogs I've ever had have scooted.
Same. My dog also doesn't pee or poop in the house because I trained him not to? So that settles that. UO: I cringe when people refer to their kids as "precious children" and the like in instances such as these. Come on, let go of the pearls.

if anything, i think people nastiness is nastier than pet nastiness. According to my vet, animals are instinctively fastidious, whereas it's a learned (or not) trait in humans. dogs that do the the poop scoot are often (not always) suffering some some sort of anxiety issue. Dogs that consume feces are often missing some nutrient and are instinctively trying to incorporate it into their diet.

Fact: kids are gross. snotty noses, barfy tummies, shitty arses...the litany could take up an entire thread. maybe we should just confine them to an outside pen until they're housebroken?

handle your pets as you see fit, but let's not try to argue that humans, tiny or otherwise, are perfect specimens of hygene.

tjkdlhb · April 2014

IBackBevo said:

Another UO: I don't necessarily buy into "if my doctor isn't concerned, I should not be concerned." If I had followed this advice with my first pregnancy (had severe pree and iugr that went undiagnosed way too long), I don't know if either my son or I would be here today. I find doctors range dramatically from being way too laid back to overly contentious.

As for the dog/kid discussion: My dog is way grosser than my kid. I now have pieces of a raccoon corpse all over my backyard. This morning, the tail and a jaw bone appeared on our porch. My son does not play with dead corpses. Also, he doesn't eat shit either. Any dog I have ever had has thought the cat's litter box = crunchy snack that was soft and warm in the middle. No amount of reprimanding can keep them away. The deliciousness is too tempting. Even my 19 month old son has been taught and now knows not to play in the litter box.

This! I went to outpatients at the hospital in my town because I was feeling 'off' and had bad swelling. The nurse checked my BP (high) and found protein in my urine. The dr. told me to wait for my next OB appt. Nurse pulled me aside and whispered to me that I should go to the next town over and get a second opinion. By the time I got there my BP was 199/103. They started me on Labetalol and started inducing me the next day. I shiver to think of what would have happened if I had waited several days for the appt. as the dr wanted me to do.

sisterjanet · April 2014

Rocknroll64 said:

I think that the public school system needs to do a better job teaching real world skills. After graduating high school, a person should know what a tax return is, what a mortgage is, how interest rates work, and how to budget their finances. Not to mention teach kids a broader spectrum of what kinds of careers are out there. It's embarrassing how long I thought an engineer drove a train.

Also, I had a guy ask me what an investment was the other day. Seriously?

It is pretty sad how lacking in useful knowledge a lot of people are these days. That said, why does this need to be the school's problem? I get the impression it's tough to fit in all the requirements as it is. The only part I totally agree with you is with respect to job opportunities. The schools need to do better at helping students know what their post-high-school options are. I think businesses could actually work with schools on that, so for example if you're the kind of kid who loves shop class but hates everything else about school, a carpenter's union or something could take you on part time and you could get a definite idea about what woodworking is all about and whether you want to do that while earning high school credit for it.

With the other kinds of life skills, maybe parents could sign their kids up for cooking and money knowledge and whatever other similar extracurriculars that they invent and take turns hosting. (A girl can dream.)

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