Circumcision?

Xath · March 2014

pandadair said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Not necessarily saying this is one of them but there are certain procedures that really are worse recovery wise for an adult than a child. It's not that they can't tell you how much it hurts just that it really is worse. One example is a tonsilectomy. D
My cousin was 7 when he had his and was only out of school for a few days and was back to his normal self. I had mine done at 23 and was out of work for 3 weeks. At 2 weeks I was finally able to eat more than Popsicles and jello. I can believe that a circumcision is an easier recover for an infant than an adult. DS was gone for 5 minutes and came back sleeping. He never flinched during diaper changes to indicate any pain. There would also be studies/stories of say children (who can talk) and adults that have had it done that they could be basing it off of as well.

But by that logic, wouldn't it make sense to just do tonsillectomies on all children at a young age, just in case they would have ended up needing them out when they got older? Why wouldn't you do that to save them the pain if they happen to require the procedure later? Most boys who are not circumcised as babies are not going to require a circumcision later. Some may develop medical reasons that call for it, sure, but that is a pretty small percentage.

Tonsillectomies require the use of general anesthesia, which comes with a separate set of risks. Circa use a local. And even though they're lower risk for children, there is still a higher risk of complications than would justify preemptive removal. My sister had her tonsils and adenoids out when she was 3. It was safer to do it then rather than wait, but I still remember my parents planning the most elaborate 3rd birthday party for her right before, just in case something terrible happened.

Back to circ, what @pistolpackinmomma‌ said makes sense to me. Newborns definitely heal much faster than adults. My son was cut deeply enough during the cesarean that he needed 2 sutures to close it. Both the cut and his circ were healed completely within 10 days after birth, and he never showed any signs of discomfort from either.

pistolpackinmomma · March 2014

pandadair said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Not necessarily saying this is one of them but there are certain procedures that really are worse recovery wise for an adult than a child. It's not that they can't tell you how much it hurts just that it really is worse. One example is a tonsilectomy. D
My cousin was 7 when he had his and was only out of school for a few days and was back to his normal self. I had mine done at 23 and was out of work for 3 weeks. At 2 weeks I was finally able to eat more than Popsicles and jello. I can believe that a circumcision is an easier recover for an infant than an adult. DS was gone for 5 minutes and came back sleeping. He never flinched during diaper changes to indicate any pain. There would also be studies/stories of say children (who can talk) and adults that have had it done that they could be basing it off of as well.

But by that logic, wouldn't it make sense to just do tonsillectomies on all children at a young age, just in case they would have ended up needing them out when they got older? Why wouldn't you do that to save them the pain if they happen to require the procedure later? Most boys who are not circumcised as babies are not going to require a circumcision later. Some may develop medical reasons that call for it, sure, but that is a pretty small percentage.

I'm not using that as an argument for circumsizing. I was just pointing out to the poster who suggested that the only reason it seems easier on infants is because they can't say ouch I hurt that there are cases of procedures being easier on someone at a younger age. And they used to take the tonsils out the first chance they got way back when. And to be honest the first sign of our kids having any sort of trouble with theirs I will push to have them removed for the sake of preventing them from dealing with it later in life.

Bootsie327 · March 2014

gertiebarden said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Not necessarily saying this is one of them but there are certain procedures that really are worse recovery wise for an adult than a child. It's not that they can't tell you how much it hurts just that it really is worse. One example is a tonsilectomy. D My cousin was 7 when he had his and was only out of school for a few days and was back to his normal self. I had mine done at 23 and was out of work for 3 weeks. At 2 weeks I was finally able to eat more than Popsicles and jello. I can believe that a circumcision is an easier recover for an infant than an adult. DS was gone for 5 minutes and came back sleeping. He never flinched during diaper changes to indicate any pain. There would also be studies/stories of say children (who can talk) and adults that have had it done that they could be basing it off of as well.

But by that logic, wouldn't it make sense to just do tonsillectomies on all children at a young age, just in case they would have ended up needing them out when they got older? Why wouldn't you do that to save them the pain if they happen to require the procedure later? Most boys who are not circumcised as babies are not going to require a circumcision later. Some may develop medical reasons that call for it, sure, but that is a pretty small percentage.
Tonsillectomies require the use of general anesthesia, which comes with a separate set of risks. Circa use a local. And even though they're lower risk for children, there is still a higher risk of complications than would justify preemptive removal. My sister had her tonsils and adenoids out when she was 3. It was safer to do it then rather than wait, but I still remember my parents planning the most elaborate 3rd birthday party for her right before, just in case something terrible happened. Back to circ, what @pistolpackinmomma‌ said makes sense to me. Newborns definitely heal much faster than adults. My son was cut deeply enough during the cesarean that he needed 2 sutures to close it. Both the cut and his circ were healed completely within 10 days after birth, and he never showed any signs of discomfort from either.

This. Baby skin heals much faster than adult skin.

pandadair · March 2014

pistolpackinmomma said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Not necessarily saying this is one of them but there are certain procedures that really are worse recovery wise for an adult than a child. It's not that they can't tell you how much it hurts just that it really is worse. One example is a tonsilectomy. D My cousin was 7 when he had his and was only out of school for a few days and was back to his normal self. I had mine done at 23 and was out of work for 3 weeks. At 2 weeks I was finally able to eat more than Popsicles and jello. I can believe that a circumcision is an easier recover for an infant than an adult. DS was gone for 5 minutes and came back sleeping. He never flinched during diaper changes to indicate any pain. There would also be studies/stories of say children (who can talk) and adults that have had it done that they could be basing it off of as well.

But by that logic, wouldn't it make sense to just do tonsillectomies on all children at a young age, just in case they would have ended up needing them out when they got older? Why wouldn't you do that to save them the pain if they happen to require the procedure later? Most boys who are not circumcised as babies are not going to require a circumcision later. Some may develop medical reasons that call for it, sure, but that is a pretty small percentage.
I'm not using that as an argument for circumsizing. I was just pointing out to the poster who suggested that the only reason it seems easier on infants is because they can't say ouch I hurt that there are cases of procedures being easier on someone at a younger age. And they used to take the tonsils out the first chance they got way back when. And to be honest the first sign of our kids having any sort of trouble with theirs I will push to have them removed for the sake of preventing them from dealing with it later in life.

Gotcha. Definitely won't argue on the healing time. On the need for doing it, though, we will just have to agree to disagree

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pandadair · March 2014

gertiebarden said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Not necessarily saying this is one of them but there are certain procedures that really are worse recovery wise for an adult than a child. It's not that they can't tell you how much it hurts just that it really is worse. One example is a tonsilectomy. D My cousin was 7 when he had his and was only out of school for a few days and was back to his normal self. I had mine done at 23 and was out of work for 3 weeks. At 2 weeks I was finally able to eat more than Popsicles and jello. I can believe that a circumcision is an easier recover for an infant than an adult. DS was gone for 5 minutes and came back sleeping. He never flinched during diaper changes to indicate any pain. There would also be studies/stories of say children (who can talk) and adults that have had it done that they could be basing it off of as well.

But by that logic, wouldn't it make sense to just do tonsillectomies on all children at a young age, just in case they would have ended up needing them out when they got older? Why wouldn't you do that to save them the pain if they happen to require the procedure later? Most boys who are not circumcised as babies are not going to require a circumcision later. Some may develop medical reasons that call for it, sure, but that is a pretty small percentage.
Tonsillectomies require the use of general anesthesia, which comes with a separate set of risks. Circa use a local. And even though they're lower risk for children, there is still a higher risk of complications than would justify preemptive removal. My sister had her tonsils and adenoids out when she was 3. It was safer to do it then rather than wait, but I still remember my parents planning the most elaborate 3rd birthday party for her right before, just in case something terrible happened. Back to circ, what @pistolpackinmomma‌ said makes sense to me. Newborns definitely heal much faster than adults. My son was cut deeply enough during the cesarean that he needed 2 sutures to close it. Both the cut and his circ were healed completely within 10 days after birth, and he never showed any signs of discomfort from either.

I guess my point is that, regardless of local or general anesthesia, I don't think that a potentially more painful recovery down the road is grounds for preemptive removal of something that most likely will not cause problems. The likelihood of my son developing an actual, medical necessity to have his foreskin removed is fairly small and something we will address should it arise. Removal for any other reason (i.e. cosmetic) is not a decision I'm comfortable making for another human being.

pistolpackinmomma · March 2014

pandadair said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

pandadair said:

pistolpackinmomma said:

Not necessarily saying this is one of them but there are certain procedures that really are worse recovery wise for an adult than a child. It's not that they can't tell you how much it hurts just that it really is worse. One example is a tonsilectomy. D
My cousin was 7 when he had his and was only out of school for a few days and was back to his normal self. I had mine done at 23 and was out of work for 3 weeks. At 2 weeks I was finally able to eat more than Popsicles and jello. I can believe that a circumcision is an easier recover for an infant than an adult. DS was gone for 5 minutes and came back sleeping. He never flinched during diaper changes to indicate any pain. There would also be studies/stories of say children (who can talk) and adults that have had it done that they could be basing it off of as well.

But by that logic, wouldn't it make sense to just do tonsillectomies on all children at a young age, just in case they would have ended up needing them out when they got older? Why wouldn't you do that to save them the pain if they happen to require the procedure later? Most boys who are not circumcised as babies are not going to require a circumcision later. Some may develop medical reasons that call for it, sure, but that is a pretty small percentage.
I'm not using that as an argument for circumsizing. I was just pointing out to the poster who suggested that the only reason it seems easier on infants is because they can't say ouch I hurt that there are cases of procedures being easier on someone at a younger age. And they used to take the tonsils out the first chance they got way back when. And to be honest the first sign of our kids having any sort of trouble with theirs I will push to have them removed for the sake of preventing them from dealing with it later in life.

Gotcha. Definitely won't argue on the healing time. On the need for doing it, though, we will just have to agree to disagree

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I can do that.

pandadair · March 2014

kitchencolors said:

@pandadair Thank you for articulating what I get way too worked up to articulate. You say it better anyway.

I feel so validated today! That is what I think to myself pretty much every time I read a response from you. Like, damn @kitchencolors has this shit on lock. My heart is aflutter.

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