Fred Phelps Has Died

willy_gert · March 2014

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/20/fred-phelps-dead_n_5000577.html

Interesting.

willy_gert · March 2014

I am hoping that people will realize celebrating and rejoicing in his death is just as hateful and mean spirited as what he taught his family and "church" to be.

Bookelly · March 2014

I hope he rots in hell. And I don't care if that makes me mean spirited or hateful.

MississippiCatfish · March 2014

I didn't read the full article, but I wonder what it means exactly that he was ex-communicated for calling members to be "kinder" to other church members. Other Christians in general? And what does "kinder" actually mean? I know, not the main point of the article, but that peaked my interest. (Just not enough to actually google.)

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

willy_gert said:

I am hoping that people will realize celebrating and rejoicing in his death is just as hateful and mean spirited as what he taught his family and "church" to be.

Interesting. It's hateful, for sure. I do not think it is anywhere close to the same plane of hateful/mean of his organization's actions and/or beliefs.

willy_gert · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

willy_gert said:

I am hoping that people will realize celebrating and rejoicing in his death is just as hateful and mean spirited as what he taught his family and "church" to be.

Interesting. It's hateful, for sure. I do not think it is anywhere close to the same plane of hateful/mean of his organization's actions and/or beliefs.

It's not close in terms of amount or whatever, but don't you think it comes from the same place? Rejoicing in someone's death, condemning them to hell, isn't that exactly what he and his family preach? I just think it is sad that people are mirroring their hate. I don't think he deserves love and an outpouring of positive emotion, but I do think that it is the same kind of hate.

But that is just me. I hope that this signals a turn for the family, or that more are able to leave and be liberated. I just feel sorry because a family lost their father, grandfather, great grandfather.

Hyaline · March 2014

I find our culture's willingness to say spiteful things about the recently departed (regardless of how despicable those people may have been in life) an interesting commentary on social decorum and etiquette surrounding death and mourning.

I don't think it says anything positive about our culture, either.

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

I think it's stooping low. Unbecoming Gross. Hypocrisy.

I was just being a butthead on semantics..... I think I agree with your general opinion.

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

The difference to me is the degree of the hate and inhumanity of the actions. He and his organization intentionally and negatively affect numerous people, often at unconscionable times. They trespass into an intimate and vulnerable spaces and violate basic human rights, in my opinion.

Someone putting a facebook status about his death is not good, but they are not in his family's bubble impacting their grieving process. It's just not the same to me. But I do not believe all hate is equal.

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

BillyMollyEmmy · March 2014

Meh.

willy_gert · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

I'm sorry about your ferret THT.

I think you are right about the scope, but I still think it comes from the same place.

I am overly stressed and stretched at work today, so I apparently feel the need to sabotage my self by being on here.

MRoxy0628 · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

I'm sorry.

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

thanks @willy_gert sorry I barfed that out in here :-p Both of my grandparents died a year ago today, too. It's such a bizarre coincidence that Ernie's health took an obvious dive today. I'm ready, because he has been breaking my heart but the vet has assured me he is not suffering. Now I feel like I know he is, which is what I was waiting for.

I like to sabotage myself sometimes. I've always been a procrastinator. I royally fuck myself sometimes, and I'm not sure why. I guess being overwhelmed?

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

@willy_gert have you made a list yet? That can sometimes get me moving.

willy_gert · March 2014

Aw THT, don't be sorry! I knew it was close but I didn't realize it was today! I hope everything goes all right and that you are okay. You have my thoughts and so does Ernie! I know today is probably a hard day for you! >:D<

willy_gert · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

@willy_gert have you made a list yet? That can sometimes get me moving.

No, I know everything I need to do. I am just overwhelmed because I am in between all of these VP's and it makes me nervous because I am low man on the totem pole and they suddenly NEED me to do these things that my boss told me to stop doing.

I am also kind of pissed about it all so I don't feel like doing it now in a hurry and they don't realize how difficult and time consuming the things are they are asking for.

It doesn't help that I still don't feel well.

PenelopePond · March 2014

I'm so sorry, THT

( >:D<

PenelopePond · March 2014

I'm not going to be nasty about this guy dying. I'm sure his family is sad, and I'm sad for them. As far as he goes, though, I just think Adios.

AKB090609 · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

I'm sorry, I hope W gives you huge hugs today. Saying goodbye to a pet is so hard.

melody921 · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

Aww, I'm sorry @tinyhumantoe. It always sucks to lose a pet.

Pokedot · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

Oh I'm so sorry THT.

tinyhumantoe · March 2014

Thanks, all. Sorry I hijacked this thread. I guess it's time for me to get a little box ready for him and shower. Blahhhhh. I don't really feel like talking to anyone IRL about this, so I really appreciate the support here. It's the best thing for him.

hmp1 · March 2014

tinyhumantoe said:

I wonder if I'm being argumentative today.

I took the day off so I could sit here and hold my ferret. He's sleeping in my sweatshirt pocket. I have a 5pm appointment at the vet to probably have him put to sleep.

Big hugs

BeebopandBuddy · March 2014

Hugs THT. Sorry Ernie's having a rough time.

BPer · March 2014

Aw I'm sorry THT. Hugs.

Cheenomae · March 2014

THT, so sorry!! You're in my thoughts.

danabsd · March 2014

Not going to celebrate his death because at the end of the day, he had family and friends that loved him and will miss him. But I really hope his legacy of hate dies with him.

I'm so sorry THT.