Juice diet

CinemaGoddess · March 2014

Has he spoken to a nutritionist?

Also, he needs to figure this all out on his own. You can nag and nag and nag, but until he's ready to get shit done, he's just going to continue on with these fad diets. I know where he's coming from there. Forreal.

Maebb · March 2014

@WhoCanItBeNow‌, he calls to order the pizza, and even when I ask for a smaller one, he orders the large. He buys a separate bottle of blue cheese dressing and keeps it in the fridge. I can't control my DH to the extent you are suggesting. If I only make a proper serving size of dinner and that's all I put on his plate, he will eat a second dinner of raw ramen noodles (which he also buys).

I don't know if he'll agree to see a nutritionist because he honestly knows the right, moderate, healthy choices like everyone is suggesting. And I know someone will say, "So why isn't he doing it," and I don't know the answer to that. He just wants to eat what he wants and then work out really hard and then do something drastic to drop weight quickly.

@YellowWallpaper12‌, I like your question of what kind of eating plan he has in mind after this juice thing, and I will add that to the list of things to discuss with DH.

Maebb · March 2014

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Maebb · March 2014

We've been married 9 years. I have tried some of these approaches, so I have an idea of what has worked in the past and what hasn't. I do appreciate the advice, and I will try many of the suggestions.

@WhoCanItBeNow‌, I want solutions that are practical for me to implement. Making restrictions about what H is allowed to buy and eat is not something I see being successful.

missyishere · March 2014

missyishere said:
I'd say it's a bad idea, but your DH is a grown man. If he wants to do a juice diet, well then, he will do a juice diet.

Reiterating

CinemaGoddess · March 2014

Maebb said:

We've been married 9 years. I have tried some of these approaches, so I have an idea of what has worked in the past and what hasn't. I do appreciate the advice, and I will try many of the suggestions. @WhoCanItBeNow‌, I want solutions that are practical for me to implement. Making restrictions about what H is allowed to buy and eat is not something I see being successful.

When you cook, make enough food for yourself. Keep a separate food budget.

Let him fend for himself food wise. If he tries to steal your food, stab him with a fork. It will be more difficult for you but at least you know you'll be healthy.

winecastle14 · March 2014

CinemaGoddess said:

Maebb said:

We've been married 9 years. I have tried some of these approaches, so I have an idea of what has worked in the past and what hasn't. I do appreciate the advice, and I will try many of the suggestions. @WhoCanItBeNow‌, I want solutions that are practical for me to implement. Making restrictions about what H is allowed to buy and eat is not something I see being successful.

When you cook, make enough food for yourself. Keep a separate food budget.

Let him fend for himself food wise. If he tries to steal your food, stab him with a fork. It will be more difficult for you but at least you know you'll be healthy.

LMAO at stab him with a fork.

jorkz821 · March 2014

This all seems very drastic for just 20lb. He'll probably lose a lot more than that in less than the month. And I don't mean that in a good way.

I mean, looking at his eating habits as PP said there are lots of small changes he could do that would help lose 20lb. It won't happen in a month but at least you won't be doing it over again in 2 months once all the weight is back.

missyishere · March 2014

She can borrow your flame thrower @WhoCanItBeNow‌ . Except that might create a large boom with the gas about to build from his new diet.

lildevil968 · March 2014

My DH has lost 40 Ibs in the past year, and I have lost almost 15 Ibs since January. We have been doing a Paleo diet for about 3 years now, and it has really helped us. We are not strict Paleo though, we still eat a few carb everyday, but nothing over 10g of carbs. We both exercise 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes. We either run, walk, or do Focus T25. Diet wise, here are some of substitutions we have made:

Almond milk insted of Dairy milk

Coconut milk yogurt instead of Dairy yogurt

We use honey or maple syrup in place of sugar

Instead of Dairy creamer, I use coconut milk creamer

Instead of veggie oil, we use olive oil, or coconut oil

We replaced regular white flour with coconut or almond flour

Also, one thing that has really helped is to make our lunch portions before we serve dinner. That way we don't go back for seconds, because the food is gone. We do the same thing when we go out to eat. We ask for to go containers to come out with the food. We half the food, and put it in the container.

lildevil968 · March 2014

Mackalien13 said:

lildevil968 said:

My DH has lost 40 Ibs in the past year, and I have lost almost 15 Ibs since January. We have been doing a Paleo diet for about 3 years now, and it has really helped us. We are not strict Paleo though, we still eat a few carb everyday, but nothing over 10g of carbs. We both exercise 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes. We either run, walk, or do Focus T25. Diet wise, here are some of substitutions we have made:
Almond milk insted of Dairy milk
Coconut milk yogurt instead of Dairy yogurt
We use honey or maple syrup in place of sugar
Instead of Dairy creamer, I use coconut milk creamer
Instead of veggie oil, we use olive oil, or coconut oil
We replaced regular white flour with coconut or almond flour
Also, one thing that has really helped is to make our lunch portions before we serve dinner. That way we don't go back for seconds, because the food is gone. We do the same thing when we go out to eat. We ask for to go containers to come out with the food. We half the food, and put it in the container.

I did paleo and Focus T25 too!

I love them both!

kcisthebombdotcom · March 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

lildevil968 said:

My DH has lost 40 Ibs in the past year, and I have lost almost 15 Ibs since January. We have been doing a Paleo diet for about 3 years now, and it has really helped us. We are not strict Paleo though, we still eat a few carb everyday, but nothing over 10g of carbs. We both exercise 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes. We either run, walk, or do Focus T25. Diet wise, here are some of substitutions we have made:
Almond milk insted of Dairy milk
Coconut milk yogurt instead of Dairy yogurt
We use honey or maple syrup in place of sugar
Instead of Dairy creamer, I use coconut milk creamer
Instead of veggie oil, we use olive oil, or coconut oil
We replaced regular white flour with coconut or almond flour
Also, one thing that has really helped is to make our lunch portions before we serve dinner. That way we don't go back for seconds, because the food is gone. We do the same thing when we go out to eat. We ask for to go containers to come out with the food. We half the food, and put it in the container.

Almond milk is a terrible sub more dairy. They are not remotely close to equal in nutritional value, almost always have added sugars, and considering commercially ready almond milks contain carrageenan, it's not the greatest sub you can make.

Same for the yogurts.

Trader joe brand almond milk has no added sugars and is carrageenan free. Silk is too.

[Deleted User] · March 2014

I'm on the Eat Everything Sweet diet.

Today I ate a red velvet egg, a small bag of mini eggs and I just ate a rice krispy treat.

ReeseFox · March 2014

Well, shit. Now that I know there is something called a red velvet egg, I'm going to have to hunt one down to try. You know, for research.

[Deleted User] · March 2014

ReeseFox said:

Well, shit. Now that I know there is something called a red velvet egg, I'm going to have to hunt one down to try. You know, for research.

It's by Russel Stover. The birthday cake one is better, but they were out of those.

ReeseFox · March 2014

Google tells me I can get them at Target. Fuck.

kcisthebombdotcom · March 2014

WhoCanItBeNow said:

KC_13 said:

WhoCanItBeNow said:

lildevil968 said:

My DH has lost 40 Ibs in the past year, and I have lost almost 15 Ibs since January. We have been doing a Paleo diet for about 3 years now, and it has really helped us. We are not strict Paleo though, we still eat a few carb everyday, but nothing over 10g of carbs. We both exercise 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes. We either run, walk, or do Focus T25. Diet wise, here are some of substitutions we have made:
Almond milk insted of Dairy milk
Coconut milk yogurt instead of Dairy yogurt
We use honey or maple syrup in place of sugar
Instead of Dairy creamer, I use coconut milk creamer
Instead of veggie oil, we use olive oil, or coconut oil
We replaced regular white flour with coconut or almond flour
Also, one thing that has really helped is to make our lunch portions before we serve dinner. That way we don't go back for seconds, because the food is gone. We do the same thing when we go out to eat. We ask for to go containers to come out with the food. We half the food, and put it in the container.

Almond milk is a terrible sub more dairy. They are not remotely close to equal in nutritional value, almost always have added sugars, and considering commercially ready almond milks contain carrageenan, it's not the greatest sub you can make.

Same for the yogurts.

Trader joe brand almond milk has no added sugars and is carrageenan free. Silk is too.

Good deal. Not really surprised by the TJ's one. That doesn't magically boost their protein levels though unless they are adding that in too, in which case you might as well buy protein shake mix. You can probably do cheaper than what those milks run.

If you are just looking for something other than water to drink though, you can do much worse than those things.

While you're right that it has little protein, dairy products should not be your sole calcium source as they're not easily digestible. It's pretty easy to meet your protein requirement without cows milk.

MamatoA2010 · March 2014

Any kind of "diet" is a recipe for failure. Cut calories, work out and eat healthy and you will keep weight off long term.

lildevil968 · March 2014

KC_13 said:

WhoCanItBeNow said:

lildevil968 said:

My DH has lost 40 Ibs in the past year, and I have lost almost 15 Ibs since January. We have been doing a Paleo diet for about 3 years now, and it has really helped us. We are not strict Paleo though, we still eat a few carb everyday, but nothing over 10g of carbs. We both exercise 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes. We either run, walk, or do Focus T25. Diet wise, here are some of substitutions we have made:
Almond milk insted of Dairy milk
Coconut milk yogurt instead of Dairy yogurt
We use honey or maple syrup in place of sugar
Instead of Dairy creamer, I use coconut milk creamer
Instead of veggie oil, we use olive oil, or coconut oil
We replaced regular white flour with coconut or almond flour
Also, one thing that has really helped is to make our lunch portions before we serve dinner. That way we don't go back for seconds, because the food is gone. We do the same thing when we go out to eat. We ask for to go containers to come out with the food. We half the food, and put it in the container.

Almond milk is a terrible sub more dairy. They are not remotely close to equal in nutritional value, almost always have added sugars, and considering commercially ready almond milks contain carrageenan, it's not the greatest sub you can make.

Same for the yogurts.

Trader joe brand almond milk has no added sugars and is carrageenan free. Silk is too.

I wish we had a TJ's close by. I either buy the Silk, or if I can find Almonds cheap enough, I buy them, and make my own Almond milk.

angelashly · March 2014

ReeseFox said:
Google tells me I can get them at Target. Fuck.

Of course Target as if I needed another reason to go there.

Op- have you looked at skinnytaste.com? I feel this website has worked wonders for our dinners. The food is healthy, but tastes so good that you can't tell. Plus if he eats more than one serving it wont be as bad as chips.

CinemaGoddess · March 2014

I'm pretty sure if a person thinks a 30 day juice diet is a good idea they're not going to be paying super close attention to the actual nutritional value of said juice.

I still don't think it's possible to do a 30 day juice diet and train for a 10k at the same time.

shakes · March 2014

It's basically living on micronutrients and incomplete proteins that bind together to make complete proteins.

This type of fast is amazing for resetting the autoimmune system and the gut. As a sole weight loss plan it's not a great long term method and most people do not follow the nutrient needs closely enough. There is a certain way to put fruits and veg together to achieve proper nutritional balance. However, it is a good way to eliminate all animal products from the body and start a veg lifestyle. 30 days is a long time, but it's not necessarily unhealthy IF it's being done properly. If the lack of complete protein is too much (as in when training for a 10K) you can add things such as spirulina, ground flax seeds, pea protien to the juices.

It's effective, but even in Fat Sick & Nearly Dead he was not doing it for weight loss but to cleanse him out of all animal fats, processed foods, medications etc, to cure his auto immune disease.

shakes · March 2014

Seriously? You assume I am a dipshit because I used the word gut as opposed to alimentary canal. OK.

shakes · March 2014

It can be very beneficial for things such as Lupus, Dermatomyostits, IBD, Cirrosis, obviously Celiac Disease, Chrons. When you suffer relentlessly you do what you can to help fix the issues. For some people in very extreme cases these extreme diet changes work. I can't imagine living off more pills than food. It's shitty way to have to live. If a hardcore juicing fast helps, giver.

CinemaGoddess · March 2014

This guy just wantsto lose weight. It's not because of a medical condition. I would assume people doing cleanses for medical reasons are being monitored by a doctor.

missyishere · March 2014

CinemaGoddess said:
This guy just wantsto lose weight. It's not because of a medical condition. I would assume people doing cleanses for medical reasons are being monitored by a doctor.

Now you're just silly with logic.

jorkz821 · March 2014

CinemaGoddess said:
This guy just wantsto lose weight. It's not because of a medical condition. I would assume people doing cleanses for medical reasons are being monitored by a doctor.

Even then, elimination diet =\= cleanse. I know exactly zero health professionals outside the naturopath world who would recommend a cleanse. Because unnecessary.

robinsokj · March 2014

This is fucking stupid.

Didn't read a single reply

DebateThis · March 2014

shakes said:

It can be very beneficial for things such as Lupus, Dermatomyostits, IBD, Cirrosis, obviously Celiac Disease, Chrons. When you suffer relentlessly you do what you can to help fix the issues. For some people in very extreme cases these extreme diet changes work. I can't imagine living off more pills than food. It's shitty way to have to live. If a hardcore juicing fast helps, giver.

Juice fasting/cleanses/detoxes can actually irreparably damage the liver of someone dealing with cirrhosis. And no, they don't "obviously" help with celiac either. There's no data to prove that a detox is going to help with any autoimmune disease because detoxes are bullshit.

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robinsokj · March 2014

MotherOfPearl85 said:

My damn husband has been drinking apple cider vinegar for some reason. Sometimes straight and sometimes he mixes it with his juice.

this has real documented health benefits, especially if it contains the mother

winecastle14 · March 2014

Apple cider vinegar is amazing for many reasons! It's a staple in our house.

But not for fasting purposes, obvi.

winecastle14 · March 2014

pobrecita said:
And I'm talking like teaspoons. Not chugging.

Thinking about chugging ACV just made me gag.

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Maebb · March 2014

robinsokj said:

MotherOfPearl85 said:

My damn husband has been drinking apple cider vinegar for some reason. Sometimes straight and sometimes he mixes it with his juice.

this has real documented health benefits, especially if it contains the mother

What do you mean, "if it contains the mother"?

I drank a tablespoon every now and then to help with indegestion when I was pregnant (that and aloe juice), but I don't know whether it helped or not.

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