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May 2014 Moms
fyafighterwife86
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TDAP Drama
fyafighterwife86
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Well, this certainly wasn't something I was expecting.
DH and I both had our TDAP vaccines today.
I didn't feel as though we were out of line asking the grandparents to also be vaccinated seeing at they will likely be around LO often- especially in the beginning. When I called my mom this morning, she flat out said no. She has Multiple Sclerosis and used that as her reasoning and also stated that she won't do it because I didn't ask anyone to do it for DS 6.5 years ago and how unfair it is to ask people to do it now. I kept my calm but my inner bitch REALLY wants to tell her not to expect to hold baby unless she's vaccinated.
Frustrated, I called SIL to see if she asked family to receive the vaccine when she gave birth a year ago and I listened to her say how painful the shot was for her and how she would never ask someone to go through 2 weeks of discomfort for personal satisfaction..blah, fucking, blah.
PLEASE tell me I'm not out of line. Whooping Cough is some serious shit and maybe I freaked myself out by reading the side effects but I just feel like I would absolutely HATE myself if something happened and I didn't at least attempt to prevent it.
My kid. My decision. But rather than being grade-A bitch, how does one properly ask?
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Re: TDAP Drama
We no longer have a relationship over other things, but you can't reason with some people. All you can do is stick to your guns.
My doctor and midwife have pretty much told me that I was the only one who needed to get the TDAP right now, and that everyone else is fine unless they haven't had it in the usual recommended 10 year span. My DH had his a few years ago (3 i think) and they told me he didn't need it again. Don't most people get their TDAP every 10 years as part of routine medical care? if so then why so much pressure to tell everyone around you to get the shot? do most people walk around with expired TDAPs?
i feel like things i've read and the things my doc and nurse have told me totally contradict themselves...
I also wouldn't put TDaP in the "unnecessary" category.
I have no advice but I do hope you're able to work things out with her.
well then WTF. cause that is pretty much exactly what i thought the case was from what i'd read, but my doctor and midwife both assured me otherwise. my doc said the only reason i should get it even though i wasn't due for it is to pass the immunity on to the baby, but that everyone else was fine if they'd had theirs as usual.
when my husband asked for his at his physical a few weeks ago they told him he didn't need it (and he goes to a totally different practice than i do).
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
well then WTF. cause that is pretty much exactly what i thought the case was from what i'd read, but my doctor and midwife both assured me otherwise. my doc said the only reason i should get it even though i wasn't due for it is to pass the immunity on to the baby, but that everyone else was fine if they'd had theirs as usual.
when my husband asked for his at his physical a few weeks ago they told him he didn't need it (and he goes to a totally different practice than i do)
The CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice (ACIP) voted at its October meeting to recommend that all pregnant women receive the Tdap vaccine, which protects against pertussis. The recommendation calls for the vaccination of all pregnant women regardless of whether they have received Tdap in the past. The ACIP also recommends that any women who are not immunized during pregnancy be given the vaccine immediately postpartum, before they leave the hospital or birthing center.
The website also recommends it for those in close contact w baby. You can go to the AAP website and ACOG website for more info. Sad that you might need to show your OB the recommendations from their own professional organization..
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My family may not be staying too long once the baby arrives and they will not be primary caregivers, but I still wasnt going to be taking any chances. My sister is typically anti-vax on some of what she deems "optional" vaccines, but everyone got their vaccines up to date. They know that I will stand my ground if they dont get their vaccines.
BFP #1 - 3/23/13 // EDD - 11/27/13 // M/MC - 5/3/13 // D&C - 5/4/13
BFP #2 - 8/26/13 // EDD - 5/10/14 // Born 5/18/14
We asked all of our parents and siblings if they were planning to be around the babies within the first two months (before they get their own vaccination) to please get the shot. If they didn't want to, we said that was fine, but they wouldn't be around the babies. The main issue with whooping cough (pertussis) is that as an adult it doesn't affect you the same way it would an infant or child. You may feel like you just have the flu or a bad cold and not realize you have whooping cough at all. Then you could transmit it to the baby which is really bad. And I don't think this is a fear mongering issue. There is a reason we have standard vaccinations. Because the things we're being vaccinated for have serious repercussions, like lifetime complications and death.
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My understanding is that if the mother has the shot during weeks 27-36 of pregnancy, that she passes the immunity along to the baby for the first couple of months of life leading up to the baby's 1st vaccination. I had the shot last week, and I know most of the people who will be in contact with DD are already vaccinated (and up to date), so I'm not going to try forcing people to get it if they don't have it or want to get it.
Additionally, as far as the MS thing... My sister has MS and had her twins in January and received the shot between weeks 27-36 without issue, so I'm fairly certain that having MS isn't a valid reason why she can't have the shot...
I'll ask at my next appointment, but I cannot force my family to do this as well.
I feel very strongly about this topic. And again, it's probably bc I have completely psyched myself out about the probability and the known issues dealing with the sickness and it's just heart wrenching. I could never imagine seeing a baby in so much pain and discomfort knowing a vaccine could've prevented the whole ordeal.
I would never deny a close family member seeing LO due to not being vaccinated but I absolutely will limit physical contact. And as a mother, I feel as though I have a right to make that decision and to protect from any unnecessary illnesses I can.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
I'm all over hand-washing before baby holding (which I get laughed at about) but most all the people in the hospital visiting (you or others) and most all the people you'll have your baby around in the first 6 months won't have had this shot...
We also live with my inlaws while I attend college full time and asked them to get it since they will be around the baby constantly. They kind of played it off at the time as nbd.
Tonight we were watching a show and a mom was telling her story about how her son died of whooping cough just weeks after birth and I think it finally hot home to MIL how serious it could be, so she is going to go get the shot.
And as far as pain, I had my shot last week. It didn't hurt at all getting the shot, and the only after effect was a little tenderness a couple of days later that just felt like a small bruise on my arm.
I'm not downplaying that it's awful, and I don't wish it on anyone or their baby, but this thread isn't about whether it's serious or not, it's about whether it's realistic to expect everyone around you to get vaccinated. In my opinion, which I am allowed to have, I think that suggesting it's important to you and perhaps some explanation why (in the form of pretty much anything other than a video of a baby dying from it) is well within our rights. Restricting access solely because someone doesn't get the vaccine seems extreme to me personally, but to each their own.
Each of our babies is more likely to die in a car accident than by pertussis, so how many here are never driving? There are easy preventions to that, don't drive, you won't get in an accident. I could show you clips of dead babies in crashes too and it would probably make you sad but would you stop driving completely to avoid it? My point is that yes it's serious, and yes there is risk with everything in life, it's up to the parents to decide how far to take things. Some here WILL stand behind the no vaccine=no seeing baby, others will want to but not have the guts to do so, and others, such as myself, will take as many safety precautions they can but still allow unvaccinated visitors and it's to each their own. Some here will think that makes me a bad Mom, eh, okay.
And as for the pain lasting two weeks--I had my last shot in 2009. I will not be getting another until 2019. Why? Because I experienced an arthus/arthus-type reaction where my arm swelled up for 3+ weeks, had intense itching/pain to the point where I had a hard time dressing/sleeping, and what felt like a golf-ball sized knot. Although uncommon, it is not unheard of. Still, it, along with a couple other reasons, are only precautions and reasons to *delay* vaccination--not contraindications.
I think for a lot of people, they just don't feel it is necessary. This is actually one of the biggest reasons people don't het their shots. Convincing them in a non-threatening, low-pressure environment may be the way to go. I know that my first response to someone who tells me I have to do something makes me want to dig my heels in and say no. But by giveing it time and casual conversation, I normally come around.
Good luck.
T 2.12 | W 5.14
THIS!!! If you had the shot during weeks 27-36 weeks of pregnancy your baby is covered!
BFP#1 - 11/27/09 EDD 8/5/10, DS1 arrived 7/24/10 via emergency c-section.
BFP#2 - 6/18/12 EDD 2/23/13, sweet baby girl born sleeping on 10/4/12 at 19 weeks, 3 days.
BFP #3 - 1/18/13 EDD 10/1/13, natural mc on 2/2/13 at 5 weeks, 4 days.
BFP #4 - 8/29/13 EDD 5/12/14, our sweet rainbow, DS2 born 4/29/14 via c-section