WTF apt.

mm29 · March 2014

WTF really didn’t provide me with any clarity. I wish it did, it just raises more questions for me. She really doesn’t know why it didn’t work. She feels we have MFI on top of DH’s BT, because our embryos usually look good up to day three, including the cycles with my eggs. It sucks that all our SA’s are perfect, DH’s sperm DNA fragmentation was only 1%, anything below 15% is considered normal. I guess there just isn’t a test for what is wrong with DH’s sperm.

I discussed my concerns of implantation dysfunction. **TMI warning** I told her about spotting before each period and having clots. I was thinking I may have blood clotting issues. I have told every doctor and RE I have seen about this. Up until today, every doctor I have talk to about this has not been concerned about this, well she is. She said this is symptomatic of endometriosis, which could explain my unexplained DOR and possibly our failures.

She is going to run a complete RPL panel, the one I had drawn at my old clinic was not complete. I have had NK cells lab work completed in the past—she is going to look at that more closely to make sure something wasn’t missed. I am going to schedule a Lap to rule out endometriosis. She has to coordinate this with her partner, because she is not a preferred provider for my insurance, but her partner is.

We also discussed our options if we decide to cycle again.

1. Cycle again with DE and DH’s sperm—as this may have just been a bad cycle, but everything suggests it wasn’t. However, she stated she would be thrilled if we tried again.

2. Cycle with my eggs and donor sperm.

3. DE/DS

4. Donor Embryo. The wait list is 6 months to a year at my clinic

5. Adoption

DH is open to trying DS in the future. Although he is not interested in cycling anytime soon. I’m not sure if this means we will cycle in 6 months, a year, or two.

I’m at the point that I’m not sure if it will ever happen for us. On top of DH wanting to take an extended break, money is a huge factor into when we will be able to cycle again. We are middle class, with no IF coverage. We have utilized all our financial resources. We have no equity in our house—we bought it right before the housing market crashed. We borrowed from our cars for our first three cycles. We took out a significant loan for this DE cycle. I am at a loss.

I’m open to any theories/suggestions to why we can’t get knocked up. After TTC for almost 6 years I’m getting tired, but I know that I am not one who will ever be able to move on and live a CF lifestyle.

sorrellam30 · March 2014

I'm in the same ship financially. We also don't know what our next move will be but I'm sure it will be expensive. I hope that whatever decision you decide on things will be able to move quicker than you think. It's so unfair it's ridiculous.

Mrs.McIrish · March 2014

Gigantic hugs. I hate that it has to be so hard and expensive.

chucktgirl · March 2014

I'm sorry your WTF didn't bring you any clarity or solace. Mine rarely did either. I wish things were easy, cut & dry. I think you sound like you're ready to move forward though, with a plan. Maybe these tests will narrow the issues. I understand the sucky financials of your situation, too. We took some time off our last IVF cycle and it did help us rebuild some money and our spirits. <<hugs>>

luvboston · March 2014

My friend who also goes to the beer center has the same thing with spotting they put her on Lovenox and she had immune treatment and now she has better periods and is cycling again.

Good luck with testing etc.

mm29 · March 2014

luvboston said:

My friend who also goes to the beer center has the same thing with spotting they put her on Lovenox and she had immune treatment and now she has better periods and is cycling again. Good luck with testing etc.

I would love to go to a RI. I'm not sure if financially I can make it work. I wish there was a RI within driving distance to Utah.

mm29 · March 2014

I’m also open to a reputable psychic. One that can look into their crystal ball and tell us what needs to be done for us to be parents.

hmz819 · March 2014

mm29 said:

luvboston said:

My friend who also goes to the beer center has the same thing with spotting they put her on Lovenox and she had immune treatment and now she has better periods and is cycling again. Good luck with testing etc.

I would love to go to a RI. I'm not sure if financially I can make it work. I wish there was a RI within driving distance to Utah.

I see Dr. KK. I did have to fly up to Chicago for my first visit but the rest has been done remotely. So far it has only cost me $300 plus travel costs. My insurance has covered the rest. (I have limited IF coverage and most of what she does gets coded to immunology codes). You could also work with Beer Center as they work remotely with all patients but will not bill insurance.

mm29 · March 2014

hmz819 said:

luvboston said:

My friend who also goes to the beer center has the same thing with spotting they put her on Lovenox and she had immune treatment and now she has better periods and is cycling again. Good luck with testing etc.

I would love to go to a RI. I'm not sure if financially I can make it work. I wish there was a RI within driving distance to Utah.
I see Dr. KK. I did have to fly up to Chicago for my first visit but the rest has been done remotely. So far it has only cost me $300 plus travel costs. My insurance has covered the rest. (I have limited IF coverage and most of what she does gets coded to immunology codes). You could also work with Beer Center as they work remotely with all patients but will not bill insurance.

That's a thought. I have a cousin who lives in Chicago that I may be able to stay with. All I would have to do is talk DH into it, I think that will be the difficult part

hmz819 · March 2014

If it makes the convo easier my DH went with me and it was pointless for him to be there. He sat in the waiting room most of the day.

Km672 · March 2014

I'm so sorry your appt didnt give you some much needed clarity.

I am glad that your DH is receptive towards cycling again. I really hope time helps to make this decision a bit easier.

so very sorry-

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