When does it freaking end?!?

Re: When does it freaking end?!?

• tamarar5 member

  March 2014

  Your boss is a douche cannoe. Simply put. I'm so sorry he's a jerk!
  
  But yay you're "out" at work! And you have another year of mat leave coming. After how rotten they are, I would totally take your entitled leave, come back and work for a week or three, then conveniently find a "better" job. Does that make me evil?

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• jesuisfatiguee member

  March 2014

  TamaraR4 said:

  Your boss is a douche cannoe. Simply put. I'm so sorry he's a jerk! But yay you're "out" at work! And you have another year of mat leave coming. After how rotten they are, I would totally take your entitled leave, come back and work for a week or three, then conveniently find a "better" job. Does that make me evil?

  No, this is what I would do, too. They can't treat their employees like shit and expect loyalty in return. Your boss is a dick, and I'm sorry  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

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• Rosebean member

  March 2014

  @peanutr1 this really is just the cherry in the shit show that I have dealt with my employment over the last year. I never asked to be traded (yes, while on my "extended" mat leave... God bless Canada), to a company with a boss who hates pregnant women. And I never asked to return back to my job where they promised me, back when I first got traded, that I would be returning to my accounts all intact to, guess what? No accounts at all. Have fun with the open list, sweetheart. And I can guarantee you, if I didn't have a working uterus during the trade, I would have never been traded to begin with, and I never would have been given zero billing accounts should I have moved into that building from day one instead of being on my "extended" mat leave. Did I mention I had to fight for my earnings? They wanted to pay me less when I came back. Because with no billing clients, there are no bonuses.... Get were this is going?

  
  

  So now they have created a position for me, not because it is a good fit for me within the company, but simply because I am pregnant. Yes, I get the logistics of business. But I am sincerely pissed for them punishing me because my family is *gasp* growing. How dare I have another child and "waste his time" by building relationships on behalf of my company by going out in public where people will see my stomach, swollen with child after so short a period since my last birthing.

  
  

   We're not in the 50's anymore. People don't want to be sold by telemarketers. They want real people who will help them with their business challenges who understand their needs. And for me to waste my time telemarketing to clients who will never be followed up with again is just a strike on my reputation and my company's. If they truly needed this position in the company (which I can tell you never did before yesterday), it would have been there before I told them that my egg had been fertilized again. 

  
  

  I could do way more for that company by doing what I do best and handing over established new business that the other reps could actually grow and reap the rewards from. Better than I ever could sitting on a phone hoping to sell maybe 10% of my potential to "out of town" clients. So I am not sure if this perspective breaks it down for you a little more, but before you go cheering on huge corporations who are the reason why women are still stuck under glass ceilings, maybe have a wee bit of sympathy for your working sisters who actually value their dignity while trying to be WAHMs to help support their families. I don't care if I am making the same money. I don't care if all my work benefits someone else when I am done. I just want to feel like I am actually helping people, not interrupting their day with the latest wheels and deals. That's not my drive. And you can bet your buns I will be in HR department (okay, the general manager's office) to ask them to reconsider and convince them that I am better asset to them on the street. Not hidden away in some corner. 

  

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• tamarar5 member

  March 2014

  Woohoo Rosebean! You take that fire and spit in his face!!! Love you, Mama!

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• Gftf7 member

  March 2014

  I'm not in sales; totally not my personality. But I admire those who are, because the skill set is so different than mine. I just wanted to comment on your idea of selling 'you' and your strengths and skills to your boss. Clever! Go get 'em mama!

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• Rosebean member

  March 2014

  Peanutr1 I could not completely disagree more with your vision in your paragraph about the glass ceiling. Women who choose to focus on their careers and have no children as a result would definitely deserve what they earn in a position in a company, just as much as the mother of several children who had the same skills. Taking time off to raise your child shouldn't be punished because you couldn't invest the same amount of time into your job like a childless woman or a man. Especially when your performance should be graded on what you do IN the office, not out of it. In my experience, there are many successful women in my industry who have taken off several years to raise their children, only to come back and grow in their success. In Canada it certainly is a blessing it have that year off, but I don't need to take the whole year off. My husband could choose to take off a selected portion of that time should our family choose to do so. Heck, I could be gone for only 12 weeks and back to work again, just like you. But they haven't asked me my intent of leave. They've just decided to take steps to make their lives easier. And yep. I got traded. Not sure how else you want me to explain that. I had one company give me to another one. I kept my seniority and they assumed the rights to my employment. Just like the other girl on maternity leave at the time. And they traded us during the sale of the company because we were a cost. We were two bodies that were not working in the building at the time who could potentially have more children. So I am not over exaggerating here, I have taken several knocks lately that have everything to do with my family situation within my career and I am getting pretty sick of it. I think I am entitled to feel like I am at the end of my rope, especially considering that I have taken everything else that they have thrown at me in stride. This post was meant to be a vent that had me thinking if I could just get my emotions out of the way, then I could walk in there Monday morning pretending like everything was okay and accept my lot in life. But I am in sales. If I can't even fight for myself, how would I ever fight for my clients or my company. So I am going to ask for a reconsideration and try to sell my side of the story and see if they change their minds. And at least I attempted it without taking it laying down like I have with EVERYTHING else they have thrown at me. It is unacceptable for me to see the discrimination taking place and not do something about it. That's an injustice to myself and any other future mothers who walk into that building. And sorry about the lack of paragraphs... Good ole iPad.

  

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• ally2011 member

  March 2014 edited March 2014

  I think having it all at the same time is very difficult. I left my career to be home with dd for the time being. I was in development and it is also very relationship driven. I understand your disappointment, but tend to agree with Peanut here. 2 years off in a relationship business is a lot. I would be grateful you have a job with that kind of leave and accept that if you want to advance your career it will need to wait. Maybe this is the season to focus on your family more and not worry as much about you work?

  We are so thankful that our second daughter, Lillian Elizabeth "Lily", was born healthy and happy on February 11, 2013.  We love her to pieces.  

  We lost our first daughter, Hannah Grace on May 4, 2011.  She was buried on May 14 during a beautiful service at my home church. We are grateful that if she could not be here with us, that she is healed and whole with the Lord. We look forward to the day when we will get to meet her. We love her so much.

  
  

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