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June 2013 Moms
UO
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Re: UO
BFP #1: 6.26.12 EDD: 2.11.13 missed m/c: 7.31.12 @ 12 weeks
BFP #2: 10.1.12 EDD: 6.11.13 Born 6.13.13
True. So can food, so don't feed your kids! Some things are far more addictive than others and cigarettes are top of the list. Even for people that don't have the "addict gene" (which my sister does and has been able to conquer everything but cigs).
I think the rule "Everything in Moderation" should be constantly present. That's with extreme stuff like pot, booze, and fatty foods. I also think it applies to TV time and stuff like that. I feel the world today is too bandwagonish and everything is bad. Well, "bad" things can be okay if not done in the extreme like Americans like to take things. (I am American. We have an extreme culture known for over doing.)
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Yeah, I guess my parents should stop using them because they look ridiculous.
Better they get lung cancer, smell like cigarettes, have their cars smell like cigarettes, have their house smell like cigarettes, have to leave wherever they are (work, movies, restaurant, etc) to go have a smoke, not get to spend nearly as much time with their grandchildren because of smoking/smelling like smoke/house smelling like smoke, etc, etc, etc than to ever look ridiculous.
You know what looks ridiculous? Someone smoking a cigarette.
ETA: Obviously very unpopular with me because I have to worry about losing a lot of people I love to smoking. I'm thrilled my mom and step-dad started smoking e-cigarettes. I lost my step-mom to lung cancer...unfortunately, my dad still smokes real cigarettes and if I could get him to switch to e-cigs that would be freaking awesome even though a lot of damage has already been done. I also lost my aunt to lung cancer. I'll take people looking ridiculous over early death any day.
Yeah, I guess my parents should stop using them because they look ridiculous.
Better they get lung cancer, smell like cigarettes, have their cars smell like cigarettes, have their house smell like cigarettes, have to leave wherever they are (work, movies, restaurant, etc) to go have a smoke, not get to spend nearly as much time with their grandchildren because of smoking/smelling like smoke/house smelling like smoke, etc, etc, etc than to ever look ridiculous.
You know what looks ridiculous? Someone smoking a cigarette.
ETA: Obviously very unpopular with me because I have to worry about losing a lot of people I love to smoking. I'm thrilled my mom and step-dad started smoking e-cigarettes. I lost my step-mom to lung cancer...unfortunately, my dad still smokes real cigarettes and if I could get him to switch to e-cigs that would be freaking awesome even though a lot of damage has already been done. I also lost my aunt to lung cancer. I'll take people looking ridiculous over early death any day.
They don't have to smoke. I personally don't buy into whole addicted to cigarettes excuse. I smoked for several years and quit cold turkey. My dad smoked until he was 53 and discovered he had major heart disease and needed 7 bypasses. He quit cold turkey then too.
I agree that people are predisposed to addictive personalities. My husband practices chemical dependency and psychiatric medicine so I hear a lot about addiction. I think addiction to heroin and other drugs is a real thing but I think anybody can have the will power to quit smoking.
About E-Cigs-I'd rather my SO smoke one than smoke cigarettes. He's going to smoke whether I like it or not. E-Cigs please me because they don't stink like cigarettes and are cheaper after the initial set up. We just went and bought my SO a new one yesterday.
If e-cigs didn't exist, my parents would still be smoking. It's that simple. So I'm just not sure why you judge people who have taken steps to be healthier and, even more importantly, are eliminating second-hand smoke, which in turn allows you and everyone else to live healthier lives.
BFP #1: 6.26.12 EDD: 2.11.13 missed m/c: 7.31.12 @ 12 weeks
BFP #2: 10.1.12 EDD: 6.11.13 Born 6.13.13
I'm not new. I just hate The Bump.
Coming from a family with addicts and having my own bout of issues, I'd rather my child be a cig smoker than a pot smoker. Pot IS a gateway drug to much worse substances. Not only that, but the drug itself is horribly addictive and can cause tons of issues physically and mentally. (it's not as highly addictive immediately, like heroin, but it can become highly addictive after years of use... this fact is debatable, but ask any drug and alcohol counselor and they will tell you how awful it is to withdraw off of marijuana).
Sure, those of us who have tried it were lucky that we didn't continue to try it, but have you ever met an avid smoker? They act like it's an olympic sport. I have a relative who smokes every day and it's such a shame. He's paranoid about everything in his life, he lacks motivation and desire to change, and the amount of money he wastes is ridiculous. I don't blame his issues solely on pot, but I know it's a major factor in how he lives his life.
SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15
We made plans and God laughed
DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13
Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13
Bedsharing: Awesome. Also, the science says it's not more dangerous than sleeping in a crib. In fact, some of the science says it might even be safer. We don't do it on a regular basis, but I have been known to feed baby girl at 5 am and leave her in bed with us for a couple of hours after that.
Scented products: Gross. I know what "CLEAN" smells like, and you can't fake it or mask a dirty smell. Also why I don't send conventional Pampers-type diapers to daycare with baby girl. Only 7th Generation or BabyGanics.
Cigarettes: Gross, vile, horrible. I've already watched people I love die from this terrible addiction. Not allowed in my house, my car, or anywhere my children are.
E-Cigs: A great alternative if you're quitting, but the people who never smoked but took up E-Cigs just because? Dumbasses. Honestly, WHY?
Pot: I have no problems with pot. It should be legal everywhere. I don't smoke it. A friend of mine who is a well known pastry chef gives us baked goods with pot, but I just give them away to a relative because neither DH nor I really enjoy pot enough to eat them.
Also, we've had some big health scares and people in the ER because of all of the chemicals and pesticides used to grow pot. Organic if you're gonna smoke it, folks.
My original OU: I haven't read enough on this board to form an opinion here, but in real life, I see so many lazy parents when it comes to food. You have this amazing opportunity when your child is a baby/toddler to develop their palate. Expose them to tons of fresh fruits and vegetables, help steer them toward more savory than sweet, etc. But people don't, and give up the minute they think their child doesn't like something. "My kid hates anything green." Really? They were born hating all things green? No, that kind of finickiness is not inherent. When we introduced eggplant to my son, he thought it was the absolute grossest thing ever. A while later, he had some baba ganoush on pita. He thought that was the best thing ever. Kid? That's eggplant. Sometimes you have to just keep providing opportunities.
SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15
We made plans and God laughed
DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13
Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13
I don't think people minimize the impact of pot in the abstract. Most of us know smokers. I know dozens of them. The vast majority are respected contributing members of society. This may be anecdotal, but the percentage of pot smokers I now know who are total slackers isn't really greater than the percentage of slackers I know in the general population.
Also, we have data about the use of pot and its impact. It's not entirely correct to call it the gateway drug. While people who smoke pot are more likely than their non-smoking peers to try, say, cocaine, correlation isn't causation. In fact, it's not the access to marijuana that results in the secondary activity like moving on to a new drug. It's other personality characteristics of the user. You can look at something like the Rand Institute report about what happened after the Dutch coffee shops started offering it.
VERY true.. and I shouldn't have stereotyped. I just know SO many that ARE the stereotypical pothead. Maybe it's the area that I was raised.... Just seems like most get hooked and go on to harder things.
SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15
We made plans and God laughed
DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13
Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13
I'm interested to know the ages of the people who find pot to be NBD and the ones who find it to be a BD (which apparently is only me). I wonder if it's a generational viewpoint or a personal viewpoint. I'm just thinking outloud (out-type?) right now.. It's a question that crossed my mind when I was browsing this thread; I wonder how many people are in their 20's who are okay with it, compared to their 30's.
And hey, I have no issues if people want to smoke. It's just not for me (used to love it til it gave me panic attacks) and I pray to God it's not for my children either.
SURPRISE! BFP: 12/2014 - EDD: 8/13/15
We made plans and God laughed
DS: BFP: 9/30/12 - EDD: 6/9/13
Radley Quinn was fashionably late via induction on 6/17/13
I also think if you are always (I'm talking beyond transitioning into solids) giving your kid something different than what you have, they will grow to expect that. If you snack on crap all the time, they will follow suit. We're big veggie lovers, so I hope A sees that and follows along!
Our lil' diva: late like her Momma: 40 weeks 5 days!
FTR, I suck at UO. It took me all day and that's the best I could come up with. Watch, tomorrow I'll think of something great.
Yeah my dad is almost 70 and I'm 90% sure he still smokes a joint every once in a while. He's also a millionaire self made business owner and fantastic father to us so he definitely doesn't fit the pot smoker stereotype. Or I should say, the pot smoker stereotype for those who are usually adamantly against it!