May 2014 Moms

Help? Rant/vent/whine/whatever you want to call it

So I've wanted to have a natural birth for as long as I can remember. I've said that from day one, but since I've been pregnant it seems like everyone is just now hearing me. And judging me. Loudly and repeatedly. My mother, father, sister, grandparents, inlaws, you name it. For the past 3 months I hear from someone on a daily basis about how I'm an idiot and won't be able to do it, so why try? Even my DH is being completely unsupportive. I've sat down and explained the medical reasons and my personal reasons for why I want to deliver naturally, and it hasn't helped anything. I've even finally just blown up at them and told them they get a say when they push out their kid. My kid, my body, my choice. I don't want to be alone when I have this little boy, but if everyone is going to be so openly rude about it I don't think I want them in there either. What would you ladies do? I've sat down with DH and told him that I understand he doesn't agree with me, but I need his support. He told me I was being an idiot and to just take the drugs. I was hoping as my EDD got closer we'd have this worked out, but now I've figured out it's not gonna get any better.
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Re: Help? Rant/vent/whine/whatever you want to call it

  • mommar13mommar13 member
    edited February 2014
    Just realized how long I made that. My bad guys.
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  • I would love to. I really wish we could afford one.
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  • Agree with @Kimbus22! Obviously I wouldn't push DH out of the delivery room b/c of his unsupportive behavior, being the dad and all, but everyone else could kiss my arse if I were you.  They wouldn't be welcome in the delivery room, or at the hospital, either.


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  • I didn't even think about that! I'm going to have to look around. Hopefully I can find someone training. Thank you! Also, yeah I'm only allowing DH in right now and I really do want him there. I'm just afraid I'm going to be in labor and in pain and he's going to start being mean and pushing me to change my mind and I'm going to end up either giving in and taking meds and resenting him for it after the fact or i'm going to get so mad at him I say something I regret.
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  • Pregnancy and Childbirth really brings out the douchiest in people.  People should keep their opinions like this to themselves.  I think you are a rock star to even try and I personally wanted the drugs the second that I could get them....I would NEVER judge a mommy for whatever they wanted to do....
  • I would let their words become even more encouragement for you! I give you props for wanting to do it this way. Many women (including myself) know they could never do it this way. I would just focus primarily on DH. He needs to support you in whatever decision YOU make! Good luck :)
  • Agree with @Kimbus22! Obviously I wouldn't push DH out of the delivery room b/c of his unsupportive behavior, being the dad and all, but everyone else could kiss my arse if I were you.  They wouldn't be welcome in the delivery room, or at the hospital, either.


    Oh, I'd have my DH removed if he wasn't supporting me. He might be Dad, but at that moment I'm doing all the hard work. If he's not supporting me, he can take a hike!

    I haven't had any negative feedback from anyone saying I shouldn't do such and such, but I also haven't shared much because it's nobody's business. I mostly say that we'll make decisions during labor as they are necessary. If I did get any crap from anyone, I'd bluntly tell them that I don't care what they think, and that since I'm the one birthing the child I am pleased to say that I'll also be making the decisions. I'd shut them down every time they tried to tell me otherwise.




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  • EmilyGolden1EmilyGolden1 member
    edited February 2014
    You can look at doulamatch.net to search for doulas by price- if you want you can even message one and ask if they know any low cost or new doulas. Some cities also have volunteer doula organizations! You really need to stop talking to anyone aside from your hubby about your birth- you will just let them instill fear and negativity in you. I also encourage you to read some of Ina May Gaskin's books such as Spiritual Midwifery or Guide to Natural Childbirth--if $$$ is a factor go to the library and check them out. They share only powerful and positive birth experiences. And why isn't DH supportive? Does he want you to go to the hospital and get hooked up to an epidural?
  • JAM85JAM85 member
    edited February 2014
    I also support the doula as you sound like you are in a Similar situation as me- look for one in training as some have mentioned. Some also have a sliding scale as well. While my DH is supportive of my choices he doesn't understand the why so much and is anxious about seeing me in pain. Plus the doula is there to help him support me so it will help us both feel more grounded in my birth plan. My in law family is very vocal about their love for pain meds or c-section while my parents, being both doctors, aren't against it at all and I would say sort of are torn between their traditional training and being open to my more natural methods for induction and pain management- they are also used to me being assertive, informed, and in control. My decision was that I only want my DH and doula in the room with me- even in early labor- because I don't need any distractions especially negative ones when I'm trying to push a baby out my vag. I would make your own list of Wants and needs to be successful and make sure you surround yourselves on with those that support you. I would also have a hard talk with DH about this non supportive BS- if it is similar to my DHs worry then talking through itcan help a lot as will having a doula if you can get one in training or with a sliding scale.
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  • It's not even so much that i'm still discussing it with people besides DH, it's more where I stupidly told them my views on it when they first asked and now they have to comment on it every time they see me. @EmilyGolden1 thank you for the website and the book recommendations, I'm going to have to look at them. I've already had to cave some just because our insurance wouldn't cover a midwife and home birth, so I'm doing a hospital birth. My OB has been amazing though. She's sat down and talked with us about what I want as far as induction, medication, everything. We're on the same page and she fully supports whatever I want as long as there is no risk to the baby. I've discussed my reasons, medical and personal, for why I want to do natural with DH and I've shown him numerous articles and documentaries to help illustrate what I'm saying. His view is simply that the technology exists to make it painless and easy, so why in the hell would I do it any other way? He has counter arguments to everything. But then again, the only birth he's ever actually been at was our nephew's back in October. His sister had the easiest labor I've ever seen and it seems to be that because of that he thinks all induced, medicated births turn out like hers. The moaning, screaming, crazy women are the ones who try natural. So I obviously haven't thought this through, or ya know, I'm just batshit insane. Right?
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  • I say your body, your choice!! And they're not the ones who have to worry about it. You're a grown woman who knows her capabilities. If you get there and decide you want the drugs you can always get them. I don't see what the problem is for your fam.. All you're saying is you want to try!! So frustrating!! I know how you feel, for whatever reason when I tell people I want to breast feed they feel compelled to respond with "Don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work". Ummmmmm.. fuck off! It worked for cavewomen without the luxury of breast pumps and nipple cream, I'm sure I can manage. Do what you want.. And if you do make it without the drugs I'd be sure to brag about that for the next decade. 
  • Oh yeah, breast feeding is a whole different rant. Not even going there.
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  • I would tell my husband when he pees out a grape, he can decide if/when he needs pain meds. I personally don't understand why men even have an opinion on the subject, they have no idea
  • I'm sorry you are not getting any support in this decision. It is your body and your birth experience so you should have the freedom to make the decision that is best for you and your baby. I was induced with pre-e & hypertension then I had an emergency c-section so the drugs didn't make it any easier for me. I think the main thing is to remind your family that you are getting great medical care. You are planning for a natural birth but you & your baby will be well taken care of if you need medication. I applaud you for your decision.
  • I am in the same boat as you. Every time I have mentioned it to anyone in conversation I just get "take the drugs that's what they are there for" or "trust me, you're going to want them". Even DH has said he doesn't think I can do it. I found a great doula but again we have the finances issue, I ma look into some students and see if I can find a better rate, it just stinks because I really liked the one we interviewed. All I can say is stick to your choices and try to talk to DH about it. I still need to have a sit down with mine.
  • LoveIsAll25LoveIsAll25 member
    edited February 2014
    That sound's horrible. I think you should continue talking to your DH about what your wan'ts and needs are during L&D. Tell him he needs to support your decision even though he might not agree with them. Maybe he is telling you to take the pain medication because he  doesn't want you to be in pain.

    Good luck! 


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  • I'm sorry you're getting so much backlash from your decision. The worst is that your husband doesn't support you in this, but I'm glad your OB's on board.

    Maybe try a different angle with him - that there will be pain (before you go to the hospital, assuming you want to labor at home for awhile, and before they could give you drugs if you wanted them), and you'd like him to learn how to help you work through the pain. There's a Bradley Method book you can buy without taking the classes that specifically addresses your birth partner & what they can do for you in labor. It's pretty dated & you have to take some of the medical advice with a grain of salt, but it might be something you could go through together. They have exercises you practice together, etc. It might empower him some to have ways to help you in labor. He might just be nervous about it himself.
  • mmks said:
    I found a doula in training for FREE! She hasn't attended many births so this is a learning experience for her, but she is amazing!!! If I were you, I'd see if you could find one in training bc then you'd at least have someone on your side and maybe she could help your husband come around to the natural side!
    I was just gonna say something similar! A lot of times you can find one in training that just needs the experience. At the very least, it would be a person who will be there supporting you and believing in your choice throughout the process, even if they don't have the experience.

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  • As others have said, I would look into a doula. If you can't afford an experience one, look for one in training or who is relatively new.

    I would also join some supportive natural birth boards or groups.  I know "ican" is great for vbacs...it really isn't as much for your situation, but a lot of people are pro-natural birth.  Maybe take a natural birth class - bradley or hypnobabies, etc. You might meet some people there.

    And I would just quit talking about it to everyone else.  If they aren't going to be supportive, just don't talk to them about it.  If they start in, just calmly say, "This is not open for discussion and your opinion isn't going to change my mind so there really isn't any point in discussing the matter further."  Honestly, I would not worry about "convincing" anyone or even what they thought other than maybe your DH.  I would sit down with him and explain how much you need his support and how you feel abandoned, but I really would just not worry about anyone else.

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  • Sweetheart, do what your heart is set on. And I think we all wish you the best of luck. Nothing is passing through this va-jay-jay besides man meat, but I am in total awe of ladies who have the will power and determination to give birth naturally, or even with medication. Just remember, you're the one who lives with this for the rest of your life, not them. Giving in may seem like the easy route, but I can't even imagine the resentment that could grow int he garden. If you are ready, and willing, and your Dr is on board, that is all the matters.
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  • You have every right to the birth you want for you and your LO. I'm sure your husband is just worried about you and doesn't want to see you in any pain. I agree with finding a doula in training, if he can not be supportive of you. I am also planning a natural birth but I like to keep in mind that things don't always go as planned. It's good to keep to your plan, if you can and have someone on your side! Good luck!
  • I am a FTM and my family and a majority of my friends all say the same thing or give me the side eye when I tell them I'm going natural.  If hundreds of thousands of women all over the world can do it, so can we.  Don't let your family or friends discourage you.  As long as you prepare for the labor and the pain that comes with you (how to deal with the pain and stay focus) I truly believe that any women can go medicated free.  In the end its a choice and every woman has a choice and it should be respected. 

    As for your DH, hopefully with some more information and explanation he can come around to supporting your decision.  I have come to realize that our families influence our views on life.  My MIL is all about natural birth, she's a doula and a midwife in training and so my DH was raised with the views that women can and should give birth naturally outside a hospital.  It may take some time but if your DH doesn't come around, perhaps a Doula in training or a close friend who can support you will be your best ally in the delivery room. 
  • Ignore them,do what you want.remind dh women have been having babies for thousands of years naturally and if you want to,so can you.you
  • OP-can you tell me where you are located? I may be able to find you a low cost doula/or free doula. Feel free to private message me.

     

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  • Oh man, I feel you.

    I get the same reaction from a lot of people when they find out I'm going natural.  I never have offered up my plans but have been asked flat out and so I answer honestly. Maybe there is my first mistake. Sometimes I wish I would answer (and I do now) with a vague "We'll see ...".

    I don't understand how any woman's choice for labor and birth is anybody's business whether you want to go natural, get an epidural, use analgesics, or whatever. I certainly don't start hammering women (which is all of my friends and a lot of my family) with negative thoughts and questions who opted for an epidural because not only is it not my business, their decision is theirs alone and it has zero effect on my life.

    That would be hard to have a DH who isn't supportive. Mine is really on board and, for me, I really need that. Can you talk to him again and let him know that any negative speak is really effecting you and that if he continues it, he can't be in the room? Maybe that will illustrate how serious you are about it.

    Definitely look into hiring a doula and I wouldn't have anybody who is not supportive of you in that room. The last thing you'll want when you're going through labor is someone telling you to get the drugs. You need someone being positive to tell you you can do it! Your mind needs to be in the right place and negativity isn't going to help.

    Good luck!


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