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shannoncorrin
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Kellymom is WRONG
shannoncorrin
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I'm irate. I was told by the lactation department at my hospital to refer to certain articles on kellymom.com. I figured this was a reputable site. When I went back to work 10 weeks ago, I figured that LO was going to need 4-5oz per bottle according to this website. The LC said that was correct. I figured since supposedly BM intake doesn't really change between 1 and 6 months, this was adequate. He was always happy after finishing a bottle and he STTN so we figured all was well.
We had our 4mo check up. LO only gained 1lb 1oz in 2 months. He's gone from 35% for weight to 6%. Ped said he needed at least 6oz per feed. She said the # of times I feed him is fine. She recom introing formula by adding a few oz to his bottles and feeding him a few oz after I fed him. I was with him all day yesterday so I fed him. I gave him formula afterward and he took 4 more oz!
I'm feeling so many emotions right now. I feel like a failure as a mother because I'm not able to produce enough food for my little guy, and I didn't even know it. Yesterday was the first time that he's had anything other than BM, and that makes me sad. I'm FURIOUS with the lac dep and Kelly mom. I thought others moms should be aware of this.
We had our 4mo check up. LO only gained 1lb 1oz in 2 months. He's gone from 35% for weight to 6%. Ped said he needed at least 6oz per feed. She said the # of times I feed him is fine. She recom introing formula by adding a few oz to his bottles and feeding him a few oz after I fed him. I was with him all day yesterday so I fed him. I gave him formula afterward and he took 4 more oz!
I'm feeling so many emotions right now. I feel like a failure as a mother because I'm not able to produce enough food for my little guy, and I didn't even know it. Yesterday was the first time that he's had anything other than BM, and that makes me sad. I'm FURIOUS with the lac dep and Kelly mom. I thought others moms should be aware of this.
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Re: Kellymom is WRONG
No, he didn't seem to still be hungry when I was done feeding him so I was completely unaware that there was an issue. He would gulp a bottle up but was happy when it was finished so we never thought he could still be hungry. He is an angel baby is very laid back and easy going. He sttn but is not a napper. He wakes up 20-30 min into a nap and is generally happy and not acting hungry. I'm wondering if this food increase will help with naps too.
Did your baby start STTN on his own naturally or did you use CIO or similar sleep training methods? I'm not saying those are wrong, but I'm surprised that he wasn't waking to nurse if he truly wasn't getting enough milk during the day. I have read about children that refuse bottles during the day, but then want to nurse all night to make up for it.
Either way I hope that you don't have much trouble building up your supply to meet your baby's needs.
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All right, I've read enough of your condescending posts and now you start making awesome generalizations so I finally feel the need to call you out on your sh*t.
What makes you think Pedis get 1 days of training about BF and 1 week about formula? Who told you this? I got EXTENSIVE training about BF during my training process becoming a Pedi. We had a lactation nurse come to my clinic twice a week and I sat in on EVERY single one of these 1-hour appointments for 3 years!!!! Hmm, I think that's a little more than 1 day of BF training in my 3-year residency. This may not be the norm, but you shouldn't automatically assume none of them get any training.
So instead of bashing the Pedi for "not knowing what they're talking about", offer the OP HELPFUL advice.
OP, listen to @amyG. She's awesome and knows what she's talking about.
And what exactly is "your experience"? How many discussions have you sat in on between a parent and a Pediatrician to know exactly what they are telling BF mothers? Hmm, I'm guessing not that many.
Did you hear the conversation that took place between OP and her Pedi? No one but those 2 people know what was said and what was recommended at that appointment.
So the internet makes you an expert?
Sigh...never mind...you don't get it.
ETA: With the know-it-all way you talk to people, I would have assumed you were an LC, but I guess I was wrong. Like I said before, OP should stick to @amyG's advice.
@amyG I did say I realize it may not be the norm to get as much training as I did, but the ASSUMPTION that ALL Pedis know nothing about BF is what irks me.
We don't know what else the doc recommended to OP - that's why I said only her and her Pedi know the conversation that took place. Maybe he/she did recommended that stuff too, who knows!
And I recommended your advice because it's not condescending and doesn't automatically bash or blame other people, not because I thought you were a LC (I honestly didn't know one way or the other if you were!)
Thank you to everyone that responded, but I was slightly offended by the poster who said my pedi was uneducated about breast feeding. She is mother who breast fed herself and who has a busy career like I do. I trust her. She has been through this herself. She is an intelligent, educated person. So no insults please.
Can someone explain the why it would be better to feed more frequently rather than increase the oz? I understand that BM gets digested faster and therefore baby might be hungry quicker, but if they aren't acting hungry, why would it mater? They are getting the same caloric intake either way.
Poor baby.
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I agree that your LO sounds like a very laid back baby and you might have to take the intiative to offer him food more often, even if he's not acting hungry. My nephew was sleeping 5 or 6 hour stretches at just a few weeks old and his mama had to wake him up in the MOTN to nurse him. She did this at the advice of their pedi because he wasn't gaining weight quite fast enough.
Hmmm...
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OP, I am really sorry you are so frustrated and worried about your LO. It is apparent that you care about him very much and are trying your best. I'm afraid maybe your approach to parenting just isn't working out as you had hoped. I know how that goes. A lot of what I thought I'd do as a mom did not work out at all as I had planned.
You've received lots of good advice from everyone in this thread, even though you may have not liked the tone of it. We are all just trying to help.
It seems to me like you came to this board for support and most of the support I've seen on this board for the past 27 months has been helpful and kind. However, there are a few frequent posters on this board whose posts IMO are downright mean. I don't understand why they would try to give advice advice seemingly to help, but give it in a mean way that can discourage those who come on here. I don't understand why they kick women when they are down.
So, shannoncorrin my advice would be to see an LC who will support you and in a kind way and listen to your gut if you trust her. If I listened to the first LC I went to, I would have given up in the first month. Instead I found one that was so much better both with advice and in bedside manner and here I am bfing my toddler. GL!
This is the last time I'm ever posting anything on the bump because I'm sick of negative nasty people. The BF board has always offered useful info , but even this board has proven to get nasty.
I have never let my LO CIO. I love him too much . I feed him, we play, he naps. He wakes up , I feed him, we play, he naps. There is nothing wrong with this sequence of events. It did not cause him not to gain weight. I choose not to nurse him to sleep. He is HAPPY. That is his personality. I did not make him this way. I know I'm blessed. He is an angel . But he gives me very few hunger cues. He used to have a hunger cry, and he will do it now and then but not very often.
I am writing this not because I care what you think because I don't . You are internet strangers. I'm glad I don't know any of you because honestly many of you are just plain mean ( not all!). I'm writing this because I have to have the last word.
Thank you to those who said I was nota bad mom and a failure because I have to supplement . Thank you to any former PGALers here for any advice you gave me during that stage of my life. Thanks to any of the nice ladies on here. And to those of you who called me a bad mom because the sequence of events that comprise my day , thank you for making me realize that I'm not a bad mom because I love my little guy too much to listen to your craziness.
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