Unpopular Opinion Thursday!

alyssa719 · February 2014

zarkarella said:

ghostof5letters said:

I really don't understand why people are so strongly against c-sections (unless they've never had surgery before and are scared). It's not like we're slicing women open in the basement of the local pub. There are risks, I totally get that, but the overall experiences I've seen reported have been overwhelmingly positive. People treat and avoid them like it's potentially infecting them with a case of syphilis or something.

In my experience, it was a pretty awesome way to give birth.

I'd rather not have my abdomine sliced open. I'd rather be able to walk, talk, laugh and sneeze with hardly any pain then to be afraid to do those things. Besides when I had my gallbladder out I was sick and had really bad recovery for a month not the typical 3 days, and that was lathroscopically. Also, I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting.
I held my baby immediately after my c-section. I had a good experience and haven't entertained the idea of a VBAC at all.
In the OR while they still had the blue sheet up? When I had mine, the baby was taken to be checked out and cleaned up and my husband went with him. I still had to have the placenta taken out, my insides put back in, be stapled up, and then taken to my room. It wasn't until after babies first bath that I got to see him. If it weren't for my husband recording the first bath, I would have missed everything, including my family seeing him for the first time through the windows. I did get to see the baby before they took him. The brought him to my head and I got to kiss him. I had some serious narcotics going on (mine was an emergency c-section) so I was so loopy, I barely remember any of it. And after my husband left, I felt rather alone but my anesthesiologist was so nice and comforting. I'll have a repeat and I hope I get the pleasant experience Ghost speaks of. But, an emergency c-section is far different from a planned one, I think. And a hell of a lot scarier.

Well, in all fairness, I had the experience of almost having an emergency c-section, and them not doing it and instead having vaginal birth. So DS was basically asleep from all the medications I had been pumped with to induce as well as the pain medications. I didn't feel contractions at all, and in the end, I wasn't able to hold him before he was carted off to the NICU because his APGAR score was low. I didn't get to see the first bath, etc.

Honestly, if my options were to repeat the same experience or have a c-section, I would gladly take a c-section. Then again, I have had (laparoscopic) major abdominal surgery and was off pain meds within 24 hours, off tylenol within 4 days... so I'm not fearful of surgeries as much as I am a repeat of the same deliver as before.

We all have horror stories of either side of the debate.. Like @Ghostof5letters said, it should just be available for all to decide.

runrinserepeat · February 2014

I think I've read that the infant mortality rates are much higher for planned c-sections (I think that was FTMs, not STMs who may not have wanted to try VBAC) than for planned vaginal births (which would also include emergency c-sections, since the mom originally planned to give birth vaginally). That's my only real beef with planning c-sections - it's not as safe. I guess it's no skin off my back if other people are ok assuming that risk, though. It's just not something I would ever elect to do. But then, I had a very uncomplicated vaginal delivery last time and I thought it was great, and I know that colors my opinion.

netsirk2013 · February 2014

I can't stand all these PSA for sales. I know we all want to save money but could we just. Make one for everyone to add new sales onto?

ksuRN09 · February 2014

SarahVol131 said:

BPaws said:

I hate when people say douchey things like "I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting".

I give them a giant middle finger in my head. How awesome for you that it was a option. I don't know anyone who would chose not to hold their child immediately. Unfortunately, while a lot of people would probably "like" that, it's not always an option. Some people don't get to hold their babies for a while, some for a long while. I guarantee I would have "liked" to hold DS before he was a fucking week old.

Makes me stabby too. NICU moms have a perspective like none other.

Like when people tell me they hope I have a girl or a boy. Fuuuuuuuck you. I hope I have kid who doesn't end up hooked up to every wire, tube and monitor in the tri-state area.

Not trying to start a fight but I think every mom probably hopes their baby doesn't end up in the NICU. The NICU isn't a fun place to be. Judging someone bc they want a boy or girl vs a healthy baby is not fair. We wanted a boy but we're having a girl and are thrilled! Having a healthy baby is obviously important to us, as I would hope it is to every parent. Insinuating a mom doesn't want to hold their baby immediately bc they prefer a c section, that's a different story and totally uncalled for.

nola 1017 · February 2014

netsirk2013 said:

I can't stand all these PSA for sales. I know we all want to save money but could we just. Make one for everyone to add new sales onto?

^Agreed!

Ylvelill · February 2014

Excessive quoting is annoying. Quote one thing, edit if you have to quote someone again IMO.

Weed smoking during pregnancy is associated with lower birth weight, alcohol with mild to severe brain defects.... You pick

Rach7170 · February 2014

SarahVol131 said:

BPaws said:

I hate when people say douchey things like "I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting". I give them a giant middle finger in my head. How awesome for you that it was a option. I don't know anyone who would chose not to hold their child immediately. Unfortunately, while a lot of people would probably "like" that, it's not always an option. Some people don't get to hold their babies for a while, some for a long while. I guarantee I would have "liked" to hold DS before he was a fucking week old.

Makes me stabby too. NICU moms have a perspective like none other.
Like when people tell me they hope I have a girl or a boy. Fuuuuuuuck you. I hope I have kid who doesn't end up hooked up to every wire, tube and monitor in the tri-state area.

Ollie was a NICU baby and that shit ripped me apart. Not being able to hold your baby is rough. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be douchey but, it was.

katnipeverclean · February 2014

ksuRN09 said:

BPaws said:

I hate when people say douchey things like "I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting". I give them a giant middle finger in my head. How awesome for you that it was a option. I don't know anyone who would chose not to hold their child immediately. Unfortunately, while a lot of people would probably "like" that, it's not always an option. Some people don't get to hold their babies for a while, some for a long while. I guarantee I would have "liked" to hold DS before he was a fucking week old.

Makes me stabby too. NICU moms have a perspective like none other.
Like when people tell me they hope I have a girl or a boy. Fuuuuuuuck you. I hope I have kid who doesn't end up hooked up to every wire, tube and monitor in the tri-state area.
Not trying to start a fight but I think every mom probably hopes their baby doesn't end up in the NICU. The NICU isn't a fun place to be. Judging someone bc they want a boy or girl vs a healthy baby is not fair. We wanted a boy but we're having a girl and are thrilled! Having a healthy baby is obviously important to us, as I would hope it is to every parent. Insinuating a mom doesn't want to hold their baby immediately bc they prefer a c section, that's a different story and totally uncalled for.

What does a c section have to do with the price of tea in china, here? I never said I judge anyone who wants a certain sex of baby. NEVER. I never even insinuated it. I said I give a giant fuck you to the people who say they hope I (as in ME, not you or anyone else) have a boy or a girl. My FU (which was NOT directed at you) is colored by the fact that my daughter was in NICU thankyouverymuch. It's terrifying and honestly after that I not longer have the luxury of hoping for boy vs girl. I hope only for a healthy baby. It ends there.

iris427 · February 2014

I think the clear takeaway here is that someone needs to invent childbirth by osmosis.

bchildrn · February 2014

kleMcK said:
I think I've read that the infant mortality rates are much higher for planned c-sections (I think that was FTMs, not STMs who may not have wanted to try VBAC) than for planned vaginal births (which would also include emergency c-sections, since the mom originally planned to give birth vaginally). That's my only real beef with planning c-sections - it's not as safe. I guess it's no skin off my back if other people are ok assuming that risk, though. It's just not something I would ever elect to do. But then, I had a very uncomplicated vaginal delivery last time and I thought it was great, and I know that colors my opinion.

The problem with planned c/s especially for FTMs is that most are performed at 38 weeks which really means the baby is truly only 36 weeks old. This is to prevent the onset of labor spontaneously. I read an article about a hospital who refused to c\s until 40 weeks and they had a drastic decrease in maternal and fetal morbidity. I am absolutely fine with c/s but I think that the timing isn't always appropriate. Unfortunately doctors do rush to do them because the cost of malpractice insurance and law suits is so high they don't want to risk it even if the risk isn't 100% there. Its sad

alyssa719 · February 2014

I don't want marijuana to be legalized freely.. according to my fb newsfeed, this is super unpopular.

I do support medical uses, and continuing clinical trials to determine how it could (maybe) help other diseases, I just wish that they would work toward a strain that doesn't give the "high" while giving the benefits instead of using it as is.

Here is my thought (and yes, I know it's different for everyone): I am not really as smart as normal when I'm stoned. I have played "frogger" crossing a street in Holland with friends, I have pretended to be in outer space while in a car (not driving) during a snow storm, etc. I don't feel like I should be allowed to drive while experiencing this and since there's no "safe amount" determined yet (as with BAC), where is the line drawn?

I'm getting ready to bring a child into the world, and I cannot fathom the wrath that I would bring to an individual who crashed into my car because they were high. It's one thing to sit at home, surrounded by cheetos, and smoke a bong... it's quite another to go out into the real world while stoned.

Jbosarge85 · February 2014

SarahVol131 said:

Jbosarge85 said:

ghostof5letters said:

I really don't understand why people are so strongly against c-sections (unless they've never had surgery before and are scared). It's not like we're slicing women open in the basement of the local pub. There are risks, I totally get that, but the overall experiences I've seen reported have been overwhelmingly positive. People treat and avoid them like it's potentially infecting them with a case of syphilis or something.

In my experience, it was a pretty awesome way to give birth.

I'd rather not have my abdomine sliced open. I'd rather be able to walk, talk, laugh and sneeze with hardly any pain then to be afraid to do those things. Besides when I had my gallbladder out I was sick and had really bad recovery for a month not the typical 3 days, and that was lathroscopically. Also, I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting.

Woah. That's fine if you want to be against them for you, but to be against them for everybody for those reasons is a little bit silly.

I never said I'm against the for everyone. Those are my reasons why I don't want one.

katnipeverclean · February 2014

iris427 said:

I think the clear takeaway here is that someone needs to invent childbirth by osmosis.

Jesus, yes.

Jbosarge85 · February 2014

BPaws said
******stuck in quote hell*************** Is it douchey to say it out loud as a wish list? No, not at all. I think it's one of those things that kind of goes without saying that everyone wants. Is that what I think the OP was stating? Not even remotely. Your wording and the OP's wording are worlds apart. Your post didn't come across douchey at all. The wording came across very smug to me, reading it implied to me that people who are in support of a csection would not like to hold their child immediately. Whether that implication was intentional or not, It came across that way as I read it.

Stuck in the quote box.

I was in no way saying it smugly and I'm sorry it came across that way. I'm not saying that women that had to have a csection for safety reasons or has a child with health issues that needs to go to NICU right away have mothers that don't want to hold the or are loved less than those that are able to be held right away. It's just one of the reasons why if I'm given a choice I would rather not have a c-section. I just know that usually it's just a quick look at baby and then they have to wait till you are no longer "loopy" from the medication they give you and they have to stitch you up. Again, I'm sorry if it came across as douchy I did not mean it to.

LuluPMW · February 2014

tundrabunny said:
I think it's bizarre that we're hoping for some drama and for someone to go BSC. Over the last couple months the women on the board have done a pretty good job letting AWs and SS know that they need to give support to get support and that there are particular threads for particular things. We let people know loud and clear when they've said something horribly offensive and told them very directly that they need to leave. Our efforts seem to be working. But now we're complaining because we're bored because nobody is doing anything too rude or too stupid. I think it's weird to smack down any drama that starts and then complain that no drama is starting.

I think it's bizarre that someone not interested in drama is posting on an UO thread.

Drama doesn't have to be stupid or rude, it can be controversial, humorous and stimulate discussion as demonstrated by most PPs on this particular thread.

katnipeverclean · February 2014

I think every single one of these baby shower cakes is totally legit.

Jbosarge85 · February 2014

BPaws said:

@Jbosarge85 I knew you weren't a douche. My knee jerk reaction is always "duuuuude, really?" And to be honest, I missed your name in the original post- I just caught the quote. Had I seen it, I would have totally given you the benefit of the doubt- "knowing" you, I get your tone.

I still wanted to apologize cause I can see how it could be taken wrong. I didn't want to come across as "that girl"

acciovino · February 2014

Jbosarge85 said:

It pisses me off when people say that breastfeeding will "ruin your breasts" I'm still breastfeeding DD and my breast are fine thank you very much.

Breastfeeding did ruin my breasts, actually. I had cute perky boobs with average nips and now...not so much. I'm still going to do it again anyway. I am already planning on a mommy makeover later so I'm not too upset about it.

hgtvmom · February 2014

Luckynumbers81 said:

jensavicci said:

This is mostly commentary but, will someone just go BSC already? I could use a good laugh. I really really could.

Now watch it happen when I have to be offline most of the day for work -_-

To add to that commentary, if there is someone that goes BSC PLEASE don't DD, we want everyone to enjoy it!

And if BSC does happen, quote the original post when you whip the snark out! They always DD and I always miss out :-(

acciovino · February 2014

Jbosarge85 said:

ghostof5letters said:

I really don't understand why people are so strongly against c-sections (unless they've never had surgery before and are scared). It's not like we're slicing women open in the basement of the local pub. There are risks, I totally get that, but the overall experiences I've seen reported have been overwhelmingly positive. People treat and avoid them like it's potentially infecting them with a case of syphilis or something.

In my experience, it was a pretty awesome way to give birth.

I'd rather not have my abdomine sliced open. I'd rather be able to walk, talk, laugh and sneeze with hardly any pain then to be afraid to do those things. Besides when I had my gallbladder out I was sick and had really bad recovery for a month not the typical 3 days, and that was lathroscopically. Also, I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting.

I got to hold DD immediatly....It just depends on the type/reason for the C/S.

I agree with Ghost though. I'm looking forward to my RCS.

Jbosarge85 · February 2014

Caitlinrj said:

Jbosarge85 said:

It pisses me off when people say that breastfeeding will "ruin your breasts" I'm still breastfeeding DD and my breast are fine thank you very much.

Breastfeeding did ruin my breasts, actually. I had cute perky boobs with average nips and now...not so much. I'm still going to do it again anyway. I am already planning on a mommy makeover later so I'm not too upset about it.

Aww I'm sorry, that sucks. Maybe it's because I've never had perky breasts. Puberty ruined my boobs if we're going for perky (I've been large chested my whole life in 5th grade girls were telling me not to stuff my bra, if only it was tp). But DH loves them (hope not tmi) so it's all good.

AutumnBonfire · February 2014

catarntina said:

Danipg said:

I am also not a fan of HCTB, but I have been to plenty of Catholic weddings that have this song played...so maybe only some churches don't allow it?

The Catholic church I got married in allowed it. News to me that it wasn't allowed.

I got married in a Catholic church and I wasn't allowed to use that song.

Lhalliburton · February 2014

Caitlinrj said:

Jbosarge85 said:

It pisses me off when people say that breastfeeding will "ruin your breasts" I'm still breastfeeding DD and my breast are fine thank you very much.

Breastfeeding did ruin my breasts, actually. I had cute perky boobs with average nips and now...not so much. I'm still going to do it again anyway. I am already planning on a mommy makeover later so I'm not too upset about it.

Me too. I think mine was more because of rapid engorgement than breastfeeding though. My boobs didn't get any bigger during pregnancy, but about 5 days after DD was born, my milk came in and they went from A/Bs to double Ds. It stretched out the skin so much that now my once perky, but small boobs now look like deflated balloons. Sad day.

ksuRN09 · February 2014

SarahVol131 said:

ksuRN09 said:

SarahVol131 said:

BPaws said:

I hate when people say douchey things like "I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting".

I give them a giant middle finger in my head. How awesome for you that it was a option. I don't know anyone who would chose not to hold their child immediately. Unfortunately, while a lot of people would probably "like" that, it's not always an option. Some people don't get to hold their babies for a while, some for a long while. I guarantee I would have "liked" to hold DS before he was a fucking week old.

Makes me stabby too. NICU moms have a perspective like none other.
Like when people tell me they hope I have a girl or a boy. Fuuuuuuuck you. I hope I have kid who doesn't end up hooked up to every wire, tube and monitor in the tri-state area.
Not trying to start a fight but I think every mom probably hopes their baby doesn't end up in the NICU. The NICU isn't a fun place to be. Judging someone bc they want a boy or girl vs a healthy baby is not fair. We wanted a boy but we're having a girl and are thrilled! Having a healthy baby is obviously important to us, as I would hope it is to every parent. Insinuating a mom doesn't want to hold their baby immediately bc they prefer a c section, that's a different story and totally uncalled for.

What does a c section have to do with the price of tea in china, here? I never said I judge anyone who wants a certain sex of baby. NEVER. I never even insinuated it. I said I give a giant fuck you to the people who say they hope I (as in ME, not you or anyone else) have a boy or a girl. My FU (which was NOT directed at you) is colored by the fact that my daughter was in NICU thankyouverymuch. It's terrifying and honestly after that I not longer have the luxury of hoping for boy vs girl. I hope only for a healthy baby. It ends there.

******Damn quote boxes******

The c section conversation is what started this conversation. The comment wss made that someone prefers to hold their kid immediately after birth instead of possibly having to wait if you have a c section. That's what BPaws was referring to and so was I.

I misread what you said and took it that you were saying FU to anyone hoping for a specific sex. My apologies. It definitely sucks having a kid in the NICU. I worked there and I can't imagine how scary it is to be the parent. I'm sorry you had to experience that.

AMcLaws · February 2014

ghostof5letters said:
I really don't understand why people are so strongly against c-sections (unless they've never had surgery before and are scared). It's not like we're slicing women open in the basement of the local pub. There are risks, I totally get that, but the overall experiences I've seen reported have been overwhelmingly positive. People treat and avoid them like it's potentially infecting them with a case of syphilis or something.

In my experience, it was a pretty awesome way to give birth.

THIS!!!!!! I'm sick and tired of the "sympathy" I keep getting when people learn I'll have a csection. Seriously?? They're not giving me cancer. They're assisting me in birthing my CHILD

AMcLaws · February 2014

zarkarella said:

2ag said:

Jbosarge85 said:

ghostof5letters said:

I really don't understand why people are so strongly against c-sections (unless they've never had surgery before and are scared). It's not like we're slicing women open in the basement of the local pub. There are risks, I totally get that, but the overall experiences I've seen reported have been overwhelmingly positive. People treat and avoid them like it's potentially infecting them with a case of syphilis or something.

In my experience, it was a pretty awesome way to give birth.

I'd rather not have my abdomine sliced open. I'd rather be able to walk, talk, laugh and sneeze with hardly any pain then to be afraid to do those things. Besides when I had my gallbladder out I was sick and had really bad recovery for a month not the typical 3 days, and that was lathroscopically. Also, I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting.
I held my baby immediately after my c-section. I had a good experience and haven't entertained the idea of a VBAC at all.

In the OR while they still had the blue sheet up? When I had mine, the baby was taken to be checked out and cleaned up and my husband went with him. I still had to have the placenta taken out, my insides put back in, be stapled up, and then taken to my room. It wasn't until after babies first bath that I got to see him. If it weren't for my husband recording the first bath, I would have missed everything, including my family seeing him for the first time through the windows. I did get to see the baby before they took him. The brought him to my head and I got to kiss him. I had some serious narcotics going on (mine was an emergency c-section) so I was so loopy, I barely remember any of it. And after my husband left, I felt rather alone but my anesthesiologist was so nice and comforting.

I'll have a repeat and I hope I get the pleasant experience Ghost speaks of. But, an emergency c-section is far different from a planned one, I think. And a hell of a lot scarier.

You can talk to your doc about skin to skin contact immediately. Most docs are all for it. Maybe not in an emergency CS...maybe they want to ensure the health and safety of the baby first? Idk for sure.

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helloblueeyes · February 2014

suzelizabeth said:

It seems that the more unpopular opinion is that I love eating meat off the bone. It's messy and fun and so much tastier.

Also, this thread has made me want wings! Haha.

I totally want some ribs now, lol.

cuntasaurusrex · February 2014

Ylvelill said:

Excessive quoting is annoying. Quote one thing, edit if you have to quote someone again IMO. Weed smoking during pregnancy is associated with lower birth weight, alcohol with mild to severe brain defects.... You pick

Actually, all of the studies I've read on it lump weed in with heroin, cocaine, crack, alcohol, etc. They make no distinction between one and another and don't measure usage or take moderation into account. Clearly you're going to get some results from that and I don't know if I even buy the lower birth weight.. have you ever seen a stoner eat?

ETA: I obviously totally misread what you were saying there, derp.

jnnfrrose6 · February 2014

SarahVol131 said:

Jbosarge85 said:

ghostof5letters said:

I really don't understand why people are so strongly against c-sections (unless they've never had surgery before and are scared). It's not like we're slicing women open in the basement of the local pub. There are risks, I totally get that, but the overall experiences I've seen reported have been overwhelmingly positive. People treat and avoid them like it's potentially infecting them with a case of syphilis or something.

In my experience, it was a pretty awesome way to give birth.

I'd rather not have my abdomine sliced open. I'd rather be able to walk, talk, laugh and sneeze with hardly any pain then to be afraid to do those things. Besides when I had my gallbladder out I was sick and had really bad recovery for a month not the typical 3 days, and that was lathroscopically. Also, I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting.

Woah. That's fine if you want to be against them for you, but to be against them for everybody for those reasons is a little bit silly.

Yeah, I had a c-section and was up walking with hardly any pain within 12 hours. Granted, I had drugs in me, but I also was down to nothing within 5 days and no issues walking, talking, laughing, or sneezing. Worst thing about it was not sleeping on my stomach for a few more weeks.

katnipeverclean · February 2014

ksuRN09 said:

ksuRN09 said:

BPaws said:

I hate when people say douchey things like "I like being able to hold my baby immediately instead of waiting". I give them a giant middle finger in my head. How awesome for you that it was a option. I don't know anyone who would chose not to hold their child immediately. Unfortunately, while a lot of people would probably "like" that, it's not always an option. Some people don't get to hold their babies for a while, some for a long while. I guarantee I would have "liked" to hold DS before he was a fucking week old.

Makes me stabby too. NICU moms have a perspective like none other.
Like when people tell me they hope I have a girl or a boy. Fuuuuuuuck you. I hope I have kid who doesn't end up hooked up to every wire, tube and monitor in the tri-state area.
Not trying to start a fight but I think every mom probably hopes their baby doesn't end up in the NICU. The NICU isn't a fun place to be. Judging someone bc they want a boy or girl vs a healthy baby is not fair. We wanted a boy but we're having a girl and are thrilled! Having a healthy baby is obviously important to us, as I would hope it is to every parent. Insinuating a mom doesn't want to hold their baby immediately bc they prefer a c section, that's a different story and totally uncalled for.

What does a c section have to do with the price of tea in china, here? I never said I judge anyone who wants a certain sex of baby. NEVER. I never even insinuated it. I said I give a giant fuck you to the people who say they hope I (as in ME, not you or anyone else) have a boy or a girl. My FU (which was NOT directed at you) is colored by the fact that my daughter was in NICU thankyouverymuch. It's terrifying and honestly after that I not longer have the luxury of hoping for boy vs girl. I hope only for a healthy baby. It ends there.
******Damn quote boxes****** The c section conversation is what started this conversation. The comment wss made that someone prefers to hold their kid immediately after birth instead of possibly having to wait if you have a c section. That's what BPaws was referring to and so was I. I misread what you said and took it that you were saying FU to anyone hoping for a specific sex. My apologies. It definitely sucks having a kid in the NICU. I worked there and I can't imagine how scary it is to be the parent. I'm sorry you had to experience that.

Gotcha. I see the c section connection now. It's all good in the hood.

Sorry if I came off a little, umm, what's the word... bitchy. It's been a shitty day and I really apologize if I came off that way when responding to you.

bullybutt · February 2014

milestrellas said:

I think Leonardo DiCaprio is quite unattractive and overrated as an actor.

"GIIIIILLLLBERRRT" Dude, What's Eating Gilbert Grape was amazing!!!

alyssa719 · February 2014

aliletz said:

Ylvelill said:

Excessive quoting is annoying. Quote one thing, edit if you have to quote someone again IMO. Weed smoking during pregnancy is associated with lower birth weight, alcohol with mild to severe brain defects.... You pick

Actually, all of the studies I've read on it lump weed in with heroin, cocaine, crack, alcohol, etc. They make no distinction between one and another and don't measure usage or take moderation into account. Clearly you're going to get some results from that and I don't know if I even buy the lower birth weight.. have you ever seen a stoner eat?

ETA: I obviously totally misread what you were saying there, derp.

@aliletz, are you lumping excessive quoting in with heroin, cocaine and crack?? That seems like a little bit much! ;P

cuntasaurusrex · February 2014

alyssa719 said:

aliletz said:

Ylvelill said:

Excessive quoting is annoying. Quote one thing, edit if you have to quote someone again IMO. Weed smoking during pregnancy is associated with lower birth weight, alcohol with mild to severe brain defects.... You pick

Actually, all of the studies I've read on it lump weed in with heroin, cocaine, crack, alcohol, etc. They make no distinction between one and another and don't measure usage or take moderation into account. Clearly you're going to get some results from that and I don't know if I even buy the lower birth weight.. have you ever seen a stoner eat?

ETA: I obviously totally misread what you were saying there, derp.

@aliletz, are you lumping excessive quoting in with heroin, cocaine and crack?? That seems like a little bit much! ;P

It is JUST as addictive and dangerous *twitch*

Big+Lil · February 2014

@alyssa719 I just read an article about the "Charlotte's Web" variant that provides benefits but not the high.

According to the USA Today article, parents are giving it to sick kids and moving to CO where it is grown.

alyssa719 · February 2014

Big+Lil said:

@alyssa719 I just read an article about the "Charlotte's Web" variant that provides benefits but not the high. According to the USA Today article, parents are giving it to sick kids and moving to CO where it is grown.

See, and this I'm not opposed to, but instead I see people saying that weed (in general) is less dangerous than cigarettes, alcohol, etc. It depends on the situation since that's not always the case (IMO).

Even since (PP said) it's as easily testable as a breathalyzer, I know there are folks pushing for there being no limits on driving while high. Seriously?! That seems insane to me... yes, we all handle things differently (also with alcohol).

cuntasaurusrex · February 2014

@literachick basically just said everything I could even hope to rebut @alyssa719's argument with, so... well done

Jbosarge85 · February 2014

alyssa719 said:
See, and this I'm not opposed to, but instead I see people saying that weed (in general) is less dangerous than cigarettes, alcohol, etc. It depends on the situation since that's not always the case (IMO).

Even since (PP said) it's as easily testable as a breathalyzer, I know there are folks pushing for there being no limits on driving while high. Seriously?! That seems insane to me... yes, we all handle things differently (also with alcohol).

I had someone seriously tell me that there is no such thing as being too high to drive. I said "well, why then can you get a ticket for driving under the influence while even taking prescription medicine that impairs your driving? Why would drugs not have the possibility of impairing you?"

Honestly, though I'm just against pot from a moral standpoint, And because my ex husband smoked it all the time, I've said before he spent $500 a month on it. He was horrible, but I guess maybe it's like alcohol and it effects everyone differently.

Edit:First part made no sense

acciovino · February 2014

milestrellas said:

I think Leonardo DiCaprio is quite unattractive and overrated as an actor.

I think he's one of the best!

DeannaGL · February 2014

I want ribs.

I will go to any length possible to avoid sending my kids to daycare. I absolutely see why it is an important service, but we have made many personal adjustments to avoid that option.

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