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TJ1979 · February 2014

Hi Stoney!

stoneycakes · February 2014

TJ1979 said:

Hi Stoney!

You are such a punk!

blondolphn · February 2014

Checking in with the lame one.

Robi1 · February 2014

NVandGZ said:

My principal hired an unqualified teacher to cover my maternity leave. The kids haven't had any homework or tests since I left @ Thanksgiving. They take 2 hour naps.
I had them reading two or more sources in science and social studies, outlining what they read, and using that info to study for tests. Sometimes kids were grouped so those gifted in an area worked together on things the others just weren't ready for while I remediated with others, or grouped by interest, or partnered so they complemented each others skills. I left all this set up, and the teacher who took my place did nothing. I left her a month of lesson plans she never used.

I also worked with non-certified teachers who taught the same lessons each year, never modifying anything to meet the needs of the kids, and a kindergarten teacher who never took the kids outside to play and spent most of the day lecturing (to kindergartners!!).

I'm feeling a bit jaded regarding formal education right now, and am very willing to educate my own child(ren) so I know he/they will get the quality deserved.
I just want to say wow. Also, the places 've either worked in, or been involved with, have all had excellent teachers as far as I know. Each place has their own issues, but none as bad as that. I'm slightly jaded on teaching in the public schools for other reasons.

But really, I don't know why there is somebody uncertified in charge of a class that long. I know I haven't seen that happen.... And it shouldn't.

Unfortunately there are much worse problems than this. If you've never experienced a school that did not have enough resources or simply was not up to par for some reason, you are incredibly lucky. In my senior year of high school, my AP English teacher got hit by a car in October, and we had a regular old substitute teacher with no training take over the class for the entire rest of the year. Needless to say, we did absolutely no AP level work and spent a lot of time doodling. The only teacher with an advanced degree in my high school was a gym teacher. My math classes involved the teacher posting the answer key to yesterday's homework on a projector screen, assigning homework for the next day, then having a cup of coffee or leaving the room while everyone copied the answers down.

I know there are some great public school teachers out there, and I know there are even some great schools, but I have seen far too much slipping through the cracks to trust my own children's education to them. I'm also a teacher with a master's in education and I am appalled at the classes I had to take at the graduate level, and how terrible and misinformed they were.

At least if I have my children at home with me, I know exactly what they're learning, and which areas might be a struggle, so I can get help if I need that. I can't imagine not knowing what my child is doing for 1/3 of the day.

I definitely think that homeschooling can be done well and badly, but I think it's also important to note that public and private schools can both go well but can also go very badly, and if they go do, it's a lot more than one family's children that suffer.

flummadiddle85 · February 2014

Robi1 said:

NVandGZ said:

My principal hired an unqualified teacher to cover my maternity leave. The kids haven't had any homework or tests since I left @ Thanksgiving. They take 2 hour naps.
I had them reading two or more sources in science and social studies, outlining what they read, and using that info to study for tests. Sometimes kids were grouped so those gifted in an area worked together on things the others just weren't ready for while I remediated with others, or grouped by interest, or partnered so they complemented each others skills. I left all this set up, and the teacher who took my place did nothing. I left her a month of lesson plans she never used.

I also worked with non-certified teachers who taught the same lessons each year, never modifying anything to meet the needs of the kids, and a kindergarten teacher who never took the kids outside to play and spent most of the day lecturing (to kindergartners!!).

I'm feeling a bit jaded regarding formal education right now, and am very willing to educate my own child(ren) so I know he/they will get the quality deserved.
I just want to say wow. Also, the places 've either worked in, or been involved with, have all had excellent teachers as far as I know. Each place has their own issues, but none as bad as that. I'm slightly jaded on teaching in the public schools for other reasons.

But really, I don't know why there is somebody uncertified in charge of a class that long. I know I haven't seen that happen.... And it shouldn't.

Unfortunately there are much worse problems than this. If you've never experienced a school that did not have enough resources or simply was not up to par for some reason, you are incredibly lucky. In my senior year of high school, my AP English teacher got hit by a car in October, and we had a regular old substitute teacher with no training take over the class for the entire rest of the year. Needless to say, we did absolutely no AP level work and spent a lot of time doodling. The only teacher with an advanced degree in my high school was a gym teacher. My math classes involved the teacher posting the answer key to yesterday's homework on a projector screen, assigning homework for the next day, then having a cup of coffee or leaving the room while everyone copied the answers down.

I know there are some great public school teachers out there, and I know there are even some great schools, but I have seen far too much slipping through the cracks to trust my own children's education to them. I'm also a teacher with a master's in education and I am appalled at the classes I had to take at the graduate level, and how terrible and misinformed they were.

At least if I have my children at home with me, I know exactly what they're learning, and which areas might be a struggle, so I can get help if I need that. I can't imagine not knowing what my child is doing for 1/3 of the day.

I definitely think that homeschooling can be done well and badly, but I think it's also important to note that public and private schools can both go well but can also go very badly, and if they go do, it's a lot more than one family's children that suffer.

Dang.... Maybe I was slightly oblivious to some things too.... Idk. I've always been a specialist.

But I've mostly worked in schools in the suburbs, everyone is certified, many have masters, etc. even long term sub positions are taken by certified teachers. Many times a recent grad, or someone who graduated after the fall semester.

I think perhaps the only questionable things I've seen were in the CPS schools, but that was very briefl. and I didn't work for CPS.

Everything you said is really sad. I would feel fairly comfortable with my children's education with the schools I worked in.

We are still a ways off from needing to decide anything. But I question full day K, just like I question prek and full day prek. Is it worth it in The long term? I haven't looked a ton into it.however, one study I looked at said it's totally worth it for disadvantaged kids. But what about the not so disadvantaged kids? Totally anecdotal, but I never went to prek, and I was doing calculus in HS. Of course now, itdoesn't matter so much. It helped get some credits out of the way in college, but that's about it.

I think some people get tired of the Finland comparisons, but I don't think they start formal schooling until 1st grade. They're schooldays are shorter. Yet they score higherthan us. They must be doing something right. It's not a matter of how many hours a student is in school, it's a matter of how the time is used. I know there are plenty of other differences though.

Also, the arts should not be sidelined so much for the core subjects.

KLXVI · February 2014

@mapleme Those hot sauces are awesome! We had them with a fritata tonight. DH wants to order more! However, we both put too much ghost pepper sauce on our plates. In other news, I can breath out of my nose now

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