Completely upset to tears :((

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Just noticed I have varicose veins forming in my right inner thigh. I know it's from pregnancy, but it's completely frustrating because I am a healthy weight and I still excersise. I'm even still running!! Finally got comfortable in shorts again after my son and now this

(( having a hormonal meltdown...don't mind me. Has anyone gotten them and they went away after baby? I'm not sure how exactly they work. I know my mom has them she has also been pretty over weight most of her life so I'm not sure if its gentic or not.

spinsoffresonance · February 2014

I had them before I was pregnant, then they got a lot worse during pregnancy. They never changed back post pregnancy. I don't think it has anything to do with being overweight. I've been at a healthy weight my whole life, my sister too and we both have them.

MissLadyTay · February 2014

I think being overweight can make them worse but the women in my family are all normal weight and we all have vericose veins.

I've had them since college. They are heinous, but there's not much to do about them.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

I've never had them

even with my first son they never popped up

. I'm just super upset because my stomachs already deformed to the point ill need plastic surgery to even get it remotely normal. FINALLY get down to a weight and toned up to the point I was comfortable in shorts etc and now this

(. I have always be super subconscious about my body, in particular my legs

(

lauralou3x3 · February 2014

I don't have those but I had my emotional breakdown today from my horrible stretch marks so I feel your pain! I know there are laser treatments for them. Just remember. It's worth it

Divine0chaos · February 2014

I know there are treatments, but tricare won't cover for anything cosmetic. Even though my stomach is a hernia waiting to happen. They won't even do anything for that until the hernia forms

(.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

As to how woman get away with getting boobs ill never know

(

Divine0chaos · February 2014

A lot of woman on tricare have gotten away with getting breast implants "due to physiological reasons" not being comfortable with smaller boobs/sagging boobs. -.-

daizijayne · February 2014

I'm right there with you. I've always been a healthy weight, but I've had some spider veins since high school. A few more small ones cropped up during my first pregnancy, but this time--wow. The inside of my left ankle is just one giant starburst of dark veins, and there are others in many other places. I'm trying to be hopeful that they will at least fade a bit once I give birth (I've heard they can!), but I don't know. My mom has always had lots of spider and varicose veins, so I won't be terribly surprised if they stick around for the long haul. Boo.

RedInLove · February 2014

ISeeYouRN said:

Huh, interesting. Tricare is an Insurance company I'm assuming? I had laser therapy for some spider veins on my legs a couple years ago and it cost about $500. They are completely gone and totally worth the money. Also, the veins may not be permanent once your blood volume decreases after baby is born. Get a set of good compression stockings in the meantime. I have the ones that go up to my thighs and love them.

TriCare is the coverage provided to military service members and their dependents.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Correct tricare is military insurance, I have to get permission to even go to the er unless its life limb or eyesight. To be seen by an ob I have to prove I'm pregnant and be referred too by a general practitioner. While pregnant with my son in my third trimester it took me almost 4 weeks to be seen because I had to take blood work to be on file I was pregnant. Even though you could totally tell!! Wait to see a dr...wait for the referral to get approved THEN see the ob. Most places this ob included wont even get you on the books until you have this referral.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Oh they are talking about finally approving breast pumps as well....finally lol but it won't be in time for this one :-/. At least it will be there for other moms down the road maybe 2+ years from now >.<

Mimaloo · February 2014

My mom and her sister both have them and they are stick thin. I think they're genetic and praying I don't get them. Kudos to you for still running btw! I'm out of breath just walking out to get the mail.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Thanks it's not eas, but I'm trying haha. I feel great on run days and the rest of the week compared to my first son when I did little to no excersise. So I want to continue for as long as possible.

Junebug060609 · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:
Correct tricare is military insurance, I have to get permission to even go to the er unless its life limb or eyesight. To be seen by an ob I have to prove I'm pregnant and be referred too by a general practitioner. While pregnant with my son in my third trimester it took me almost 4 weeks to be seen because I had to take blood work to be on file I was pregnant. Even though you could totally tell!! Wait to see a dr...wait for the referral to get approved THEN see the ob. Most places this ob included wont even get you on the books until you have this referral.

I am on Tricare and haven't had these experiences.

If I have to go to the ER, I just go. Try to go to a hospital on a base if I can, but if not, so be it. Tricare likes to be notified within 24 hrs.

Why would you have such a lapse in appts? Even PCSing clear across the country during this pregnancy my care was seamless. I brought a copy of my OB records with me during the move and TriNorth confirmed things with TriWest.

Honestly, even though there are hoops to jump through that are sometimes a PITA, our coverage is pretty good for comparatively little money.

manderdoll · February 2014

I have them in the same spot, I find by the end of the day my legs are achy and I get a burning sensation, I had them a bit with DS2, and they just seem to be getting worse.
A friend of mine is a NICU nurse, said the main artery that supplies blood to the legs runs behind the uterus, so they are likely to get worse toward the end.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

You're very lucky then. I've had all these issues as well as having to pay out of pocket for prenatal care with my son due to never getting a referral. I tried to appeal it and they still wouldn't cover it. I've almost had to pay for taking my son for a very high fever when he was a baby. I notified within 24 hours etc I had to appeal it after having to pay for it. I know I've never had issue with tricare west, but north and south had been horrible for us. I completely agree the coverage is good, but the system needs to be improved.

kat8805 · February 2014

So... We're crying over the things we have no control over? My husband, who is slightly colorblind, thinks my hair is black, when it's just really dark Brown. Boo hoo.

I mean there are ladies making trips to L&D now, scared for the lives of their unborn children.

But Vanity Fair is totes worth a cry.

Perspective.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Guess you skipped the part about the hormonal melt down, but thank you for understanding....

Like I said its just frustrating when I work my butt off everyday prior to pregnancy and during with diet an excersise and now this. Sorry for offending you.

dogsombrero · February 2014

ISeeYouRN said:

Huh, interesting. Tricare is an Insurance company I'm assuming? I had laser therapy for some spider veins on my legs a couple years ago and it cost about $500. They are completely gone and totally worth the money. Also, the veins may not be permanent once your blood volume decreases after baby is born. Get a set of good compression stockings in the meantime. I have the ones that go up to my thighs and love them.

My mom got the laser treatment done too. She said it was painful but for her it was worth it. I also have them (thanks genetics!) but I'm not overly bothered by them because they are tiny.

mrsbtobe20122 · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:
A lot of woman on tricare have gotten away with getting breast implants "due to physiological reasons" not being comfortable with smaller boobs/sagging boobs. -.-

Unless its some form of reconstruction from cancer or injury, this is enraging.

kat8805 · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:
Guess you skipped the part about the hormonal melt down, but thank you for understanding....

Like I said its just frustrating when I work my butt off everyday prior to pregnancy and during with diet an excersise and now this. Sorry for offending you.

Usually, irrational mental breaks aren't something I air on the interwebs. Cause really, you just look Cray. Could have been your FFFC, but instead you felt this needed a whole post so you could get some "omg I know, I'm totes ruined too" responses.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

I agree 100%

Divine0chaos · February 2014

That's not the point I'm making....I'm sure I'm not. It's just frustrating is all to work so hard at something anything, and a bump in the road appears. Sorry for venting I guess? *raises eyebrows*

sammy.k · February 2014

I have 'em. I'm not crying. If you saw my mom and grandmother you'd cringe for me knowing what's to come... We all want to look like we're still 23, but it's not happening. Getting old sucks. Nobody said pregnancy was pretty.

kat8805 · February 2014

A bump in the road... Called creating another human, and its the end of the world? What do you think your body issues are going to teach your kids? Your son especially. That an imperfect body is junk? What your missing is that I'm 99% sure you've got a bangin body, that still shows all the work you've done, along side all the battles you've survived. Stop focusing on single flaw, and be proud of all the other gifts your body has.

cbrust · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:

That's not the point I'm making....I'm sure I'm not. It's just frustrating is all to work so hard at something anything, and a bump in the road appears. Sorry for venting I guess? *raises eyebrows*

I think the point is that your "bump in the road" consists of a vanity problem. Othermembers on the BMB are worried about pre-term labor and couldn't care less about cosmetic issues at this point. I'm sure many of us would trade stretch marks and varicose veins for a healthy full term baby.

Christinaruth74 · February 2014

FTR: I support insurance coverage for boobs. I have a few friends who have needed reductions... But they didn't just approve them because they batted their eyelashes. They had to work at it first. They needed to prove that their cup size wouldn't change substantially through weight loss, and that the size was causing them serious back, neck, and shoulder pain. Soooooo I'm pretty sure the "boob jobs" your insurance company are covering are not strictly cosmetic.

ETA: my aunt has battled breast cancer and if she wants a boob job, you better believe her insurance should cover it.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Well one my son is too young to even care so it's w/e there. I'm already dealing with a deformed stomach to the point a hernia is just waiting to happen, water can't even touch it in the shower. So I'm a little insecure when I have another issue pop up. Like I said sorry to offend everyone, didn't think venting would get everyone's panties in a bunch. Guess people have nothing better to do, but troll on people who felt the need to vent. I've never thought an imperfect body is junk I've always had imperfections my entire life stretch marks for puberty, stretch marks from my son, deformed divet on my stomach, a scar on my face. Soooooo EXCUSEEEEE me for venting. I won't say I'm sorry for doing it. Sorry to those who it offends etc. not trying to belittle anyone else's situation just venting on mine, but if people feel the need to be all high and mighty go for it. The bump in the road is working my ass off for over a year to loose weight to not over indulge to get my lazy pregnant ass up in the morning continue working out, and something that CAN be prevented with excersise I got anyway. I understand it is what it is....won't vent ever again. This board is suppose to be a support is it not, and an issue of body image is serious for some people. You shouldn't be little someone ones personal issue, I can handle it it's w/e just hope a person that is mentally unable never has to deal with this hate storm.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

The divet is a fisher (think of a little belly button and then a huge one above it), I received it after my first son from over active scar tissue. My abs separating again is forming a space for the hernia to form. The skin being soooo thinned out,and becoming even thinner is making the opportunity even easier. My ob says ill have to get seen right after the baby to make sure one does not form.

I'm an emotional venter always have been. I was a very emotional girl when I was younger would cry while doing my own hair. So I guess I'm being punished for the way I'm venting...roger that.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

Here so you can get a visual and people don't think I'm talking out of my ass

Divine0chaos · February 2014

I have never said anything like that infront of my son that is why I say he is too young. I HIGHLY doubt he will go around saying I have varicose veins. I had supported ld posts I just haven't comment on the post themselves...sorry. Lol I have been here long enough and I have support small and large. I was raised that everyone has their own issues and never should belittle anyone's issue. That is why I said that. Yes I knew getting pregnant again would mean weight gain, it would mean more stretch marks, and it would mean working from the bottom with my fitness. I'm not naive varicose veins were something I was unaware of. Never received them from my son.

hfooter · February 2014

ErBear1010 said:
There are several people here who are recovering from eating disorders. Me included.. Several of us have body issues. The fact that our bodies change during pregnancy sucks. But that's what happens and we knew it when we started this journey. I knew that I would gain weight. Did I know I'd be up 30lbs at this point-fuck no! Am I bummed? Yeah-kinda. But now I have an excuse to go for walks with my LO in gorgeous spring weather.
And the fact that your son is 3 makes no difference. I have heard a 5 year old refuse to get on the scale "because she is fat". Kids learn very early on.
AND FFS! You've been here long enough-do NOT pull the "we're all here for support" bs. Support some of the ladies who have made trips to L&D if that is what you're here for...because you haven't yet.

The bolded is exactly what I was thinking!

My friends daughter at 5 refused to wear her puffy jacket to school because it made her look "fat." Kids catch on to this stuff way earlier then people think. It's extremely sad.

dragossoul84 · February 2014

Vericose veins are nothing to cry over. They suck but if thats as bad as it gets I'd count yourself lucky. There are a lot of women had more than a year to get pregnant and many here who are dealing with complications. I know I was recently in LD for preterm labor scared me at only 27 wks.

Junebug060609 · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:
You're very lucky then. I've had all these issues as well as having to pay out of pocket for prenatal care with my son due to never getting a referral. I tried to appeal it and they still wouldn't cover it. I've almost had to pay for taking my son for a very high fever when he was a baby. I notified within 24 hours etc I had to appeal it after having to pay for it. I know I've never had issue with tricare west, but north and south had been horrible for us. I completely agree the coverage is good, but the system needs to be improved.

. I take it you are Tricare Prime? The MTF or your civilian doctor shouldve had you take à pg test. When it came up + then they would contact Tricare to get you under global so you can get pg coverage and for you to see an OB/MW. I was Prime at the start of my sons pg and that was how it worked. I am standard now so I can go where i want, it just is on me to make sure they are in-network.

I get the headaches with referrals, my DS is Prime and I have spent part of the morning on the phone with TriNorth dealing with that, but I have found that once you learn what hoops are there to be jumped through it isnt bad insurance.

Andplusalso, I agree with the other ladies on a whole thread about a normal pregnancy ailment to be a bit much. An EDD buddy of mine on PgAL had her water break and is on hospital bedrest. She is only 28 weeks. Perspective.

JessElam · February 2014

What I see in those pics are a few scars over 6 pack abs, which you should be very proud of. But seriously...varicose veins are nothing at all to get upset about. I got my first when I was in the 5th grade and the only person who ever noticed was me. I can't even tell you how many I have now and my grandma's legs were like a road map so i definitely know what's in store down the road. If you take care of yourself and are healthy, which it sounds like you are, then that is what you should be worried about. Be proud of you battle scars because you earned them though carrying a child!

Again...definitely not something to be upset crying about. Especially when there are ladies on this board who wish that a few varicose veins where all they had to worry about with their pregnancies.

Divine0chaos · February 2014

I'm sorry for your scare. Hope you and baby are doing much better. Honesty at this point it's like talking to a brick wall. I've repeated an repeated, if people don't understand so be it. The ones who do understand thank you.

awc1986 · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:

Well one my son is too young to even care so it's w/e there. I'm already dealing with a deformed stomach to the point a hernia is just waiting to happen, water can't even touch it in the shower. So I'm a little insecure when I have another issue pop up. Like I said sorry to offend everyone, didn't think venting would get everyone's panties in a bunch. Guess people have nothing better to do, but troll on people who felt the need to vent. I've never thought an imperfect body is junk I've always had imperfections my entire life stretch marks for puberty, stretch marks from my son, deformed divet on my stomach, a scar on my face. Soooooo EXCUSEEEEE me for venting. I won't say I'm sorry for doing it. Sorry to those who it offends etc. not trying to belittle anyone else's situation just venting on mine, but if people feel the need to be all high and mighty go for it. The bump in the road is working my ass off for over a year to loose weight to not over indulge to get my lazy pregnant ass up in the morning continue working out, and something that CAN be prevented with excersise I got anyway. I understand it is what it is....won't vent ever again. This board is suppose to be a support is it not, and an issue of body image is serious for some people. You shouldn't be little someone ones personal issue, I can handle it it's w/e just hope a person that is mentally unable never has to deal with this hate storm.

Too far.

People were kindly telling you to get a grip. We all have body image issues here, especially at the moment. My G cup tits are around my knees and I haven't started BFing yet. Yes it makes me mad when i see them in the mirror, but then i think about the job they're doing at the moment and it makes me happy.

You don't need to bad mouth people just because they've told you to chill out over something so trivial. So you have a varicose vein? You're probably the only person who will notice and you can get it removed when you've had the baby. I'd be more worried about passing my melodramatic tendencies on to my child.

CamrynnsMommy · February 2014

Is your H military or are you? Either way you are "entitled" to one free plastic surgery while your H (or you) are on active duty. Thanks, US Armed Forces for all the sacrifices you make to support our freedom and plastic surgery.

FTR, I think that it's ridiculous that you're nearly in tears because of a vein, but hey we all have our "things" that we get upset about.

Take it easy on yourself, don't stress about this now, deal with it after the baby comes.

kat8805 · February 2014

Divine0chaos said:

I'm sorry for your scare. Hope you and baby are doing much better. Honesty at this point it's like talking to a brick wall. I've repeated an repeated, if people don't understand so be it. The ones who do understand thank you.

No honey, you're the brick wall. You're too dense to realize that if we can read your body issues from your words, than your son, who is the same age as my DD, can most definitely pick it up in your demeanor. They absorb everything. So what's going to happen when your kids ask "mommy, why does your belly look different?" Are you going to flip out like you have over this tiny vein?

I have a flap of skin, we normal ladies call it a Mother's Apron, it's about the size of your tiny, flat belly. And I have no body issues what so ever. Good lord, if I were to cry over every blemish on my body... I'd literally drown in my own tears. I lost nearly 80lbs before this pregnancy, and here I sit today peaking out at my highest point in my life, at 300lbs. And I still love myself than you seem to. Because life is bigger than my body. So much bigger. And I have enjoyment and happiness in my life that I could never contain inside a size 0. And I am proud of every single stretch mark, varicose vein, scar, pit, pimple, and wrinkle I have.

I love me. You should do the same for your own sake.

pandadair · February 2014

savannah_girl said:

Venting is 'ugh, I got a stretch mark/scar...whatever'. Not 'omg, I am in TEARS!'. Big difference. And what issue does your stomach have that is a hernia waiting to happen. I have been trying to figure that out.

Oh please, like she wouldn't have gotten the same reaction if she'd done that. I find it interesting that the body issues seem to be the main ones that cause a thread to burst into flames. People, including regulars, bitch about their husbands/SOs all the time, and no one goes out of their way to point out that we've had multiple posters discuss their marriages being on the brink of ending and that the OP needs to shut the fuck up because whatever is bothering them doesn't meet some arbitrary qualification of "mattering enough".

As far as this thread... I really have nothing. I don't think a varicose vein is that big of a deal, but there's probably something that I really struggle with that others on here would determine me to be a stupid asshole for being bothered by. *shrug* Did I just make myself into a white knight? *bigger shrug*

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