Secondary IF

Introduction - Ivf failure and loss mentioned

Good morning everyone. I am having a really hard time dealing with my emotions and I'm also looking for advice. A little about me. My name is Nicole and I'm 29. My husband and I have been together for 9 years, married for 2 1/2. After a little over a year of trying, we got pregnant via unmedicated iui. -- the first time! Unfortunately it was a blighted ovum. I carried until I was 10 weeks and then had a d&c. The loss was so terrible. You start to believe in miracles and then your heart gets broken. Well, fast forward 8 months, 6 more iuis and still not even a hint of a bfp. This month we turned to Ivf. After being so scared to see how my eggs were, my fsh is high for my age (9-10.1 range). I had 30 follicles at my baseline apt. Well, my dr had me trigger after 7 days of stimming. I believe because my estrogen was high (3300). At retrieval I was shocked to get 22 eggs. I woke up ANC my husband was smiling away. Well, only 8 of those eggs were mature. All 8 fertilized and on the day if the 3dt, I had 4 @ 8a and the others were 8b, 6a and 2@5a. We transferred an 8a that was compacting. Well it was a BFN. now I'm lost, scared and have this fear that there's something wrong with me. Is this normal? We're pushing to do a FET this cycle with 2 day 3 embryos since we were Able to freeze all 7. Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated

******Siggy Warning**************

Me 29 - no known issues ( Highest FSH 10.1??) 
DH- 36 - quite the perfect man!
TTC since 1/2011
IUI #1 March 2012 
BETA #1  BFP
B/O at 6 weeks D&C @ 10 weeks 
IUI #2-7 (2012)= BFN
IVF  Jan 14 - Follistim, Ganirelix
22R, 8M, 8F
ET  (1-14-14) - 1 Grade A 8 cell = BFN
FET (2-18-14)  1 grade A 12 cell and one early morula!
BETA #1 (3-3-14) =1,389  p4 17.4
BETA #2  (3-5-14) = 4,553 u/s showed one small g sac
U/S #2      (3-17-14) Shows two little beans with heartbeats!!! TWINS!! 
                                   Heartbeats were 119 & 120 beans measured (6 weeks 1 day) (6 weeks 2 days)
found out at 20 weeks that baby B went to heaven
11/12/14 Baby girl arrived :)
FET (1-24-16) Grade A early morula 
BETA #1 300 p4. 11.1 
BETA#2 1300
u/s d 1 tiny babe :)
10/7/16 another sweet baby girl
4/18 SURPRISE + HPT 
Beta #1 6 weeks 16,202 p4. 13.2




Re: Introduction - Ivf failure and loss mentioned

  • Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to get it all out there!

    ******Siggy Warning**************

    Me 29 - no known issues ( Highest FSH 10.1??) 
    DH- 36 - quite the perfect man!
    TTC since 1/2011
    IUI #1 March 2012 
    BETA #1  BFP
    B/O at 6 weeks D&C @ 10 weeks 
    IUI #2-7 (2012)= BFN
    IVF  Jan 14 - Follistim, Ganirelix
    22R, 8M, 8F
    ET  (1-14-14) - 1 Grade A 8 cell = BFN
    FET (2-18-14)  1 grade A 12 cell and one early morula!
    BETA #1 (3-3-14) =1,389  p4 17.4
    BETA #2  (3-5-14) = 4,553 u/s showed one small g sac
    U/S #2      (3-17-14) Shows two little beans with heartbeats!!! TWINS!! 
                                       Heartbeats were 119 & 120 beans measured (6 weeks 1 day) (6 weeks 2 days)
    found out at 20 weeks that baby B went to heaven
    11/12/14 Baby girl arrived :)
    FET (1-24-16) Grade A early morula 
    BETA #1 300 p4. 11.1 
    BETA#2 1300
    u/s d 1 tiny babe :)
    10/7/16 another sweet baby girl
    4/18 SURPRISE + HPT 
    Beta #1 6 weeks 16,202 p4. 13.2




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  • Welcome! I am sorry for your losses and the difficulties you have had.
  • Hi, sorry for your loss. I'm on the heels of what is looking like my SECOND failed IVF cycle (kicking rocks) so I know exactly how you are feeling, and apparently it doesn't suck any less the second time around either. 


    Good luck with you FET. 


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • Momarazzi007Momarazzi007 member
    edited January 2014
    I get the shock of so many eggs and then dwindling down and down! We had 21 retrieved back in 2010, and only 7 made it to 5db. You can see the rest in my siggy- IVF is a long painful road, but the twins that took were an 8a and 8b- and I have no idea which one dd is, she's a 10 to me! Don't stress, you had an incredible survival rate! FET babies are our snowballs! Don't know if you ever saw this, but a neat article that helped me going into first FET:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2083040/IVF-babies-born-frozen-embryos-healthier-fresh-ones.html

    "They suggested only top quality embryos survive the freezing and thawing process."

    So I actually couldn't find article I originally found, but if they survive thaw, they were supposedly more likely to take given right conditions. (Try not to stress right? Yeh right)
    Anyway, I wish I could just jump straight to FET, so much easier. But we are gearing up for fresh. I am only surprised they did three day with you, I always hear 5 day lately, but everyone is different w different doctors! I'm sorry for your loss, my first BFP ever was an ectopic- that pain kills a lot of Miracle believing- lots of hugs there. Sorry also for bfn, all of us on here know that pain too.

    I'd be happy to offer any insight on FETs or answer any questions I know and we are all here for you!

    Edit- classic Allie typos on mobile
    January 2007- Stop BCP! Let's DO this!
    June 2010- MFI. BS. IVF! Ectopic. BS. image

    November 2010- FAILED FET! BS!
    January 2011- BFP FET! TWINS!
    February 2011- lost twin. BS. image

    SEPTEMBER 2011- DD Born! Most awesome girl in the world!

    November 2013- FAILED FET! BS! (screw you November FETs)
    April Fresh Cycle, FAILED. Frozen embryos frozen for future FETs.
    FROZEN CYCLE JUNE! BFP
    BABY BOY VINCENT!
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    We can't wait to meet you!
    Conception:image
    imageimage Potato Love!

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  • Hi and welcome. I'm so sorry for your loss and the bfn. This IF shit just plain old sucks. 

    I am not saying this to be rude at all, but I noticed you didn't mention a child, so I want to let you know that all of us on SIF have a child(ren). The Infertility board is full of women with tons of knowledge on IVF - fresh and FET (I lurk a lot to "steal" their advice) who are waiting for their first take home baby. You might be more comfortable over there because we do talk about our kids often here. Again, I apologize if that sounds rude, definitely not my intent! I wish you the best of luck with your FET!

    Two DDs 10/08 and 08/10, no primary IF
    TTC #3 since 10/2011 - dx unexplained/weak ovulation
     3 BFN clomid + TI cycles, 5 BFN clomid/gonal f IUIs, 1 mmc IUI
    2/19/2014 IVF #1 Unexpected low E2 (oversuppressed) -> increased to max doses = 3 or 4 follicles, converting to IUI
    BFFP Saw 1 beautiful heartbeat at 6w6d, follow up u/s at 9w showed mmc. Eff this.
    NTNP 5/2014-9/2014, OPKs and TI 10/2014 - 1/2015. 
    RPL testing all normal, AFC, AMH, and FSH all normal. 
    IVF 1.2 1/22/2014 natural cycle start, AFC 28, 300 gonal f/150menopur. 
    ER 2/3/15 14R 8M 3F w/ICSI Day 5 transfer on 2/8/15 of one "Grade A+" blast and have TWO frosties! 

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  • Thank you all for your kind thoughts. Momarazzi, I might take you up on that as I'm so clueless when it comes to FET. We're actually hoping to put in an 8a and 8b if a goes well with the thawing. I'm going to read that link now. Thank you for taking the time to share information.
    Jen, I did notice that but I figured since my diagnosis was secondary IF and because I've been pregnant, people might get upset if I posted on IF. But thank you, I will also post over there. Thanks for your kind words. And yes, it truly does suck!!

    ******Siggy Warning**************

    Me 29 - no known issues ( Highest FSH 10.1??) 
    DH- 36 - quite the perfect man!
    TTC since 1/2011
    IUI #1 March 2012 
    BETA #1  BFP
    B/O at 6 weeks D&C @ 10 weeks 
    IUI #2-7 (2012)= BFN
    IVF  Jan 14 - Follistim, Ganirelix
    22R, 8M, 8F
    ET  (1-14-14) - 1 Grade A 8 cell = BFN
    FET (2-18-14)  1 grade A 12 cell and one early morula!
    BETA #1 (3-3-14) =1,389  p4 17.4
    BETA #2  (3-5-14) = 4,553 u/s showed one small g sac
    U/S #2      (3-17-14) Shows two little beans with heartbeats!!! TWINS!! 
                                       Heartbeats were 119 & 120 beans measured (6 weeks 1 day) (6 weeks 2 days)
    found out at 20 weeks that baby B went to heaven
    11/12/14 Baby girl arrived :)
    FET (1-24-16) Grade A early morula 
    BETA #1 300 p4. 11.1 
    BETA#2 1300
    u/s d 1 tiny babe :)
    10/7/16 another sweet baby girl
    4/18 SURPRISE + HPT 
    Beta #1 6 weeks 16,202 p4. 13.2




  • Welcome! So sorry for your loss. I don't have any experience with IVF but wanted to wish you good luck!
  • Thank you!

    ******Siggy Warning**************

    Me 29 - no known issues ( Highest FSH 10.1??) 
    DH- 36 - quite the perfect man!
    TTC since 1/2011
    IUI #1 March 2012 
    BETA #1  BFP
    B/O at 6 weeks D&C @ 10 weeks 
    IUI #2-7 (2012)= BFN
    IVF  Jan 14 - Follistim, Ganirelix
    22R, 8M, 8F
    ET  (1-14-14) - 1 Grade A 8 cell = BFN
    FET (2-18-14)  1 grade A 12 cell and one early morula!
    BETA #1 (3-3-14) =1,389  p4 17.4
    BETA #2  (3-5-14) = 4,553 u/s showed one small g sac
    U/S #2      (3-17-14) Shows two little beans with heartbeats!!! TWINS!! 
                                       Heartbeats were 119 & 120 beans measured (6 weeks 1 day) (6 weeks 2 days)
    found out at 20 weeks that baby B went to heaven
    11/12/14 Baby girl arrived :)
    FET (1-24-16) Grade A early morula 
    BETA #1 300 p4. 11.1 
    BETA#2 1300
    u/s d 1 tiny babe :)
    10/7/16 another sweet baby girl
    4/18 SURPRISE + HPT 
    Beta #1 6 weeks 16,202 p4. 13.2




  • Sorry about your loss. I have had experience with a fresh cycle, but not yet a FET. That will probably be our next cycle.

    TTC for 1.5 years with a crappy RE. 12 cycles with clomid (11 too many)
    New RE, 3 failed IUI's moving to IVF with ICSI
    IVF#1 BFP EDD 1/10/13
    Beta#1 51  Beta #2 148
    A/S 8/20/13 Team Pink
    Induced week 39 due to severe GD
    Baby girl born 1/4/13

           TTC #2 2 failed IUI's moving on to FET 3/2014
    ET 3/25 
    Beta #1 127
    Beta #2 845
    U/s 4/22 It's TWINS!!
    Team Purple!!

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  • Sorry to hear about your loss. Welcome. 



      


  • Thank you all for being so welcoming. Sometimes it's hard to relate to people that have no idea what you're going through. 

    ******Siggy Warning**************

    Me 29 - no known issues ( Highest FSH 10.1??) 
    DH- 36 - quite the perfect man!
    TTC since 1/2011
    IUI #1 March 2012 
    BETA #1  BFP
    B/O at 6 weeks D&C @ 10 weeks 
    IUI #2-7 (2012)= BFN
    IVF  Jan 14 - Follistim, Ganirelix
    22R, 8M, 8F
    ET  (1-14-14) - 1 Grade A 8 cell = BFN
    FET (2-18-14)  1 grade A 12 cell and one early morula!
    BETA #1 (3-3-14) =1,389  p4 17.4
    BETA #2  (3-5-14) = 4,553 u/s showed one small g sac
    U/S #2      (3-17-14) Shows two little beans with heartbeats!!! TWINS!! 
                                       Heartbeats were 119 & 120 beans measured (6 weeks 1 day) (6 weeks 2 days)
    found out at 20 weeks that baby B went to heaven
    11/12/14 Baby girl arrived :)
    FET (1-24-16) Grade A early morula 
    BETA #1 300 p4. 11.1 
    BETA#2 1300
    u/s d 1 tiny babe :)
    10/7/16 another sweet baby girl
    4/18 SURPRISE + HPT 
    Beta #1 6 weeks 16,202 p4. 13.2




  • Welcome.  Your results are great.  Don't lose heart.  

    I just had a failed IVF in December too, also with an 8a.  IVF isn't an efficient process.  The fact that all your mature eggs fertilized is incredible in and of itself.  We had 6 mature eggs and only 4 fertilized.  That means the embroyologist freaking injected a sperm into an egg and it still didn't fertilize.  That just tells you there is some other unexplainable force at play.  It isn't all biology.  

    Your egg retreival and frozen embryo numbers are awesome.  You have so many chances left on ice!  And FET are cheaper than fresh cycles.  

    Did your doc recommend implanting two next time to increase you chance for one to implant?  
    Trying for #2 with IVF after damage done in a D&C left me with one functioning (but too scarred) ovary and tube to get pregnant safely without assistance. It's a really, really long story, but that is the gist of it.  We have one daughter (whose c-section birth started this roller coaster) born in 2012 after a miscarriage in 2011. 
    Failed 1st attempt at IVF (Fresh ET day 3, 1 frozen embryo saved) in December 2013.  
    Failed 2nd attempt at IVF (Fresh ET day 5, 2 frozen embryos saved) in February 2014.
  • Lucky wife, 
    Thank you so much for taking the time to write.
    I do feel so lucky to have had them all fertilize and the remaining ones freeze. He left the decision to us to transfer 1 or 2 with our ivf. I chose one just because I was scared that if i was selfish, there was a chance that I could lose two. I just met with the nurses and I start estrace on friday. My transfer will likely be 2/19 and it will be with two embryos! 
    I am so sorry for your failed cycle. It's so hard when you think everything went right. Do you know when your FET will be?

    ******Siggy Warning**************

    Me 29 - no known issues ( Highest FSH 10.1??) 
    DH- 36 - quite the perfect man!
    TTC since 1/2011
    IUI #1 March 2012 
    BETA #1  BFP
    B/O at 6 weeks D&C @ 10 weeks 
    IUI #2-7 (2012)= BFN
    IVF  Jan 14 - Follistim, Ganirelix
    22R, 8M, 8F
    ET  (1-14-14) - 1 Grade A 8 cell = BFN
    FET (2-18-14)  1 grade A 12 cell and one early morula!
    BETA #1 (3-3-14) =1,389  p4 17.4
    BETA #2  (3-5-14) = 4,553 u/s showed one small g sac
    U/S #2      (3-17-14) Shows two little beans with heartbeats!!! TWINS!! 
                                       Heartbeats were 119 & 120 beans measured (6 weeks 1 day) (6 weeks 2 days)
    found out at 20 weeks that baby B went to heaven
    11/12/14 Baby girl arrived :)
    FET (1-24-16) Grade A early morula 
    BETA #1 300 p4. 11.1 
    BETA#2 1300
    u/s d 1 tiny babe :)
    10/7/16 another sweet baby girl
    4/18 SURPRISE + HPT 
    Beta #1 6 weeks 16,202 p4. 13.2




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