I hate you because "your" a teacher who doesn't know the proper use of your/you're.
I hate you because I'm a teacher who does know the difference. It pains me to end a sentence in a preposition even though our spoken language does it all the time. And I teach music. Not grammar, not English/Language Arts, music. You should know these things no matter what you teach. You're airing your ignorance.
I hate you because having a second shower within 2 years is dumb and you don't know it.
And I hate you because you decided to get /didn't prevent getting pregnant and now expect everyone else to pay for it. Live within your means, like the rest of us.
And I hate you because you were mean to @camrynnsmommy . And I like her.
Ok so I'm going to keep my response simple and pretend you didn't call homegirl a bitch for giving an honest opinion.
1) you already made a registry. That's fine. Buy stuff yourself off of it and get your discount code. If anyone asks you I they can buy you a gift, (I would say no thanks we got it covered) I know some family members can be pushy and insist on buying something then tell them about your registry.
2) you absolutely don't need to have two of all those things that you mentioned. Maybe a double stroller. Can the stroller you have maybe include a kick board? Idk, maybe that's too unstable for a 2/2.5 yr old. But something to think about before you invest another $500 in a stroller. Move that changing table to the nursery. Walk to the other room when your 2 yr old has a diaper change.
3) your mom is absolutely right. People don't do that.
4) it's always bad when you throw your own shower. First or not. Calling it jack and Jill doesn't make it more acceptable.
My cousin had her second baby which was the same sex at 4 years apart. It was a sprinkle so we just basically brought diapers and wipes. Cheap clothes. I'll be honest, it was kinda sad. I think people who were there (which weren't many) felt awkward an obligated to be there. NOBODY bought anything from a registry or bought big ticket items.
You should've considered your finances before getting pregnant a second time if you cannot afford to buy basic essentials you baby #2. Many of the items you listed are not even basic essentials though. My DD will be just over 2 when DS arrives and we'll be reusing everything, including the pink car seat and pink pack-n-play, no matter how much I want to buy him new things. I cannot imagine throwing myself a shower and honestly thinking that's ok.
If you've stretched yourself beyond your means, it's time to shop consignment shops, garage sales, and craigslist for second hand items. Expecting family and friends to fund your "wish list" of items for baby #2 is absurd. This makes you sound like a spoiled, entitled brat. The way you reacted to everyone's honest feedback only reinforces that.
CJPowers said:
It's not a second shower for the same kid... I had my daughter 2 years ago and I had a shower. I got necessities (bottles, clothes, swing, bouncer seat, clothes, a single stroller, did I mention clothes)... I mean think about it I have to buy a million things! Car seats, strollers, carriers, furniture, another high chair... The list goes on and on. "Gift grabby" is an interesting term since that's the purpose of a shower. DH and I are teachers and we are broke! We have been on a pay freeze for 5 years. All of my friends had 2nd showers so I didn't think anything of it until my mom seemed hesitant... And now you guys do too.
I don't have the time to read through all the posts, so this may be redundant. You can't expect your family and friends to buy you all the baby stuff you claim you "need." And by the way, you don't NEED a second changing table, a Diaper Genie, fancy matching bedding, a second full-size high chair, new, never-been-worn clothes, a fancy new (not used) stroller... If you can't afford to buy the things that you want yourself, then pair down, only get the necessities, and buy used. Really nice second-hand baby stuff is plentiful and much more economical.
FWIW, this is our first baby, I might not have a shower at all, and I'm definitely not expecting our friends and family to buy us the baby stuff I want.
I hate you because "your" a teacher who doesn't know the proper use of your/you're.
I hate you because I'm a teacher who does know the difference. It pains me to end a sentence in a preposition even though our spoken language does it all the time. And I teach music. Not grammar, not English/Language Arts, music. You should know these things no matter what you teach. You're airing your ignorance.
I hate you because having a second shower within 2 years is dumb and you don't know it.
And I hate you because you decided to get /didn't prevent getting pregnant and now expect everyone else to pay for it. Live within your means, like the rest of us.
And I hate you because you were mean to @camrynnsmommy . And I like her.
Ok, I think I just found the time to read through all the posts. OP, you have no right to be mean to anyone here. You're (not your) the one being ridiculous!
@CJPowers, even though you seem to have peaced out (probably off to the hospital with some major burns after all of that flaming!), I'm going to say this anyway so that I can pretend I made a dent in your ignorance:
Showers are about welcoming NEW PARENTS into PARENTHOOD. They are not celebrations of the new baby. Since you're already a parent, you've been welcomed. No second showers, period. Celebrate your baby in another way and don't expect people to throw you an expensive party and lavish you with gifts.
OP- I think an informal gathering would be the best choice...some people are very turned off by second showers. Sorry some people were so rude to you...I know how it feels...we come here looking for support from fellow pregnant ladies. It's a shame some use it as an outlet to belittle and bully.
OP- I think an informal gathering would be the best choice...some people are very turned off by second showers. Sorry some people were so rude to you...I know how it feels...we come here looking for support from fellow pregnant ladies. It's a shame some use it as an outlet to belittle and bully.
seriously even though I don't agree with a second shower there's no need for everyone being so rude. this site is supposed to be helpful not to make people feel like shit.
I'm a teacher, and a first time mom, and I bought my own crib and stroller today. FWIW, I even make more money then my husband, who is not a teacher. And I live in SC, one of the lowest paid teachers salaries here. That is a horrible excuse. If I got invited to a 2nd shower for a friend who is throwing it for herself, I either wouldn't go, or I would buy a $5 walmart outfit. Get a freakin clue!
Omg this is me. To a T. Being a teacher with a low income and having hubby have an even lower income does NOT equal expecting people to buy me shit.
seriously even though I don't agree with a second shower there's no need for everyone being so rude. this site is supposed to be helpful not to make people feel like shit.
Did you even read her comments? She legit said she wants to have a second shower because she wants people to buy her things like a second changing table.
Listen, if I'd say it to my BFF IRL, then I have no problem saying it to an internet stranger.
There may have been a few snarky comments, but those doesn't equate to bullying. Re-read the original post. It's ridiculous! At least in my universe it is.
I have not read all the responses, but how much stuff can you possibly need with the kids ONLY being two years apart? Mine will be 20 months and I need almost nothing.
Edit: I also don't understand why you even asked this question if you already had your mind made up. It makes me wonder if this is mud.
pistolpackinmomma said:
Please do read her list if things she needs. Among them are another high chair, another changing table, a double stroller, another bjorn, another crib, another dresser, and I probably forgot something. OP is seriously clueless.
Bevo said: Oh, I missed that little gem.
Op- With respect to age of kids, we are in a similar boat. The only item off your list that I have gotten is a double stroller...which I got as a Christmas gift. If finances are tight, look on Craigslist, eBay or at a resale store. Heck, I even saw an umbrella - type, double stroller on sale at BRU new for $89 the other day. I think PPs have already touched on why you don't need another changing table, high chair, etc.
As for the crib, is that typically something people even give at showers??? Personally, I did not get big ticket items like furniture at my shower. DH and I purchased LO's nursery furniture ourselves. Regardless, I would think your first LO would be moving up to a toddler bed by the time LO #2 arrives. Get your older kid a toddler bed and re-use the crib. Again, check out sales, Craigslist, etc. if money is tight.
Edit: damn quotes on mobile.
IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54
2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4; BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
I didn't have time to read all the posts- I didn't need to...I don't care how much I disagree or think something is ridiculous some of the things said were very personal and hurtful. If you don't agree- voice that opinion and move on...no need for huge long personal bashes.
I didn't have time to read all the posts- I didn't need to...I don't care how much I disagree or think something is ridiculous some of the things said were very personal and hurtful. If you don't agree- voice that opinion and move on...no need for huge long personal bashes.
Please show me where anyone was disrespectful to the OP. I can show you where she called me a bitch, is that respectful?
No it isn't- as I said I didn't read all the posts...I find it absurd to name call anyone on a site that is designed for fellow moms to come for support.
I'm no saint but I do believe in respect and class.
And calling someone a bitch is classy and respectful?
IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54
2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4; BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
IF DX: DOR & Fragile X pre-mutation carrier
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54
2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4; BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
I'm no saint but I do believe in respect and class.
And calling someone a bitch is classy and respectful?
Also, throwing yourself a shower because you can't be bothered to hit up a consignment shop or craigslist, or *gasp* save things from Baby #1 is the epitome of class and respect for your loved ones.
No it isn't- as I said I didn't read all the posts...I find it absurd to name call anyone on a site that is designed for fellow moms to come for support.
I think had you read all the responses, you'd be singing a different tune.
No it isn't- as I said I didn't read all the posts...I find it absurd to name call anyone on a site that is designed for fellow moms to come for support.
I think had you read all the responses, you'd be singing a different tune.
seriously even though I don't agree with a second shower there's no need for everyone being so rude. this site is supposed to be helpful not to make people feel like shit.
Dude, she called a poster a bitch-she is the ignorant bully. She was given opinions she did not like.
No it isn't- as I said I didn't read all the posts...I find it absurd to name call anyone on a site that is designed for fellow moms to come for support.
This is an online forum not a support group. We do not owe anyone unconditional support.
It's also a community. Generally, if you want support, you contribute to the community and provide it for others. Then it is gladly returned.
Before you lecture us on what is/isn't appropriate on this board, take that into consideration and actually read the thread you're commenting on. People were civil (with a bit of snark, which is how The Bump is in general). It was the OP who lashed out and called someone a bitch when it was totally unnecessary.
Thanks but no thanks on the Bump civility lesson. I think we've got it.
She was pretty much attacked by some other members before she called anybody a bitch....honestly she called the wrong person a bitch IMO... I am not saying unconditional support- I will be the first to disagree...but some of the comments were totally hateful and out of line. It wasn't a lecture either...just voicing my opinion.
OP- I think an informal gathering would be the best choice...some people are very turned off by second showers. Sorry some people were so rude to you...I know how it feels...we come here looking for support from fellow pregnant ladies. It's a shame some use it as an outlet to belittle and bully.
WTF? She asked for an opinion, it was given. Not one person was rude. Not one person on here belittled or bullied. I guess you would know how we all are since you are so active on this board, right? I think it's funny when 30+ people have the same exact opinion, and 3 people have the opposite opinion, and think the 30+ is rude and wrong.
and she called one of my fav's a bitch....but, hey, why don't you throw her a 2nd shower and buy all of her unnecessary big ticket items. You seem to want to be a white knight!
Two more things then I'm really done with this. @sarahjanisse
1. This board is not for support. No where on TB does it say "come be supported by other moms." It says "come chat with other moms." This is a community. As such, you have to participate to be considered part of that community. You don't get to come in and in your first interaction with the group act like a spoiled child. Imagine how that would go over in real life? A bunch of friends are chatting, you go up to them and start a conversation. You ask them a question and you get a unanimous answer. Then, you decide to get argumentative and whiney, and you call them names. What do you think would happen? Read this thread to find out. She decided to bully a member of our little M14 community so we mobilized. And really, this wasn't that bad. Good luck on TB if you think these flames were hot.
2. Now this is slightly flammable. I'm not really against second showers. If a friend offered to throw one for me, I'd jump on that shit. I'm all about the cash and prizes. Gift graby? Hells to the yes. Give me all the presents. But me all the things. I love it. Do it for my second baby, do it for my tenth. I'd want it to stay small and I'd HOPE for things like diapers and clothes. Here's what I wouldn't do- bitch if no one offered, throw my own, or EXPECT or DEMAND anything from anyone. If no one brings me a single gift for this baby, no big deal. I'll buy my own crap (of which I truly need very little). And I'd have told OP this very thing if is gotten to this post before she got nasty.
Also, read the rules. No random white knights allowed.
and she called one of my fav's a bitch....but, hey, why don't you throw her a 2nd shower and buy all of her unnecessary big ticket items. You seem to want to be a white knight!
Re: Is it okay to have a shower for baby #2?
I hate you because "your" a teacher who doesn't know the proper use of your/you're.
I hate you because I'm a teacher who does know the difference. It pains me to end a sentence in a preposition even though our spoken language does it all the time. And I teach music. Not grammar, not English/Language Arts, music. You should know these things no matter what you teach. You're airing your ignorance.
I hate you because having a second shower within 2 years is dumb and you don't know it.
And I hate you because you decided to get /didn't prevent getting pregnant and now expect everyone else to pay for it. Live within your means, like the rest of us.
And I hate you because you were mean to @camrynnsmommy . And I like her.
1) you already made a registry. That's fine. Buy stuff yourself off of it and get your discount code. If anyone asks you I they can buy you a gift, (I would say no thanks we got it covered) I know some family members can be pushy and insist on buying something then tell them about your registry.
2) you absolutely don't need to have two of all those things that you mentioned. Maybe a double stroller. Can the stroller you have maybe include a kick board? Idk, maybe that's too unstable for a 2/2.5 yr old. But something to think about before you invest another $500 in a stroller. Move that changing table to the nursery. Walk to the other room when your 2 yr old has a diaper change.
3) your mom is absolutely right. People don't do that.
4) it's always bad when you throw your own shower. First or not. Calling it jack and Jill doesn't make it more acceptable.
My cousin had her second baby which was the same sex at 4 years apart. It was a sprinkle so we just basically brought diapers and wipes. Cheap clothes. I'll be honest, it was kinda sad. I think people who were there (which weren't many) felt awkward an obligated to be there. NOBODY bought anything from a registry or bought big ticket items.
If you've stretched yourself beyond your means, it's time to shop consignment shops, garage sales, and craigslist for second hand items. Expecting family and friends to fund your "wish list" of items for baby #2 is absurd. This makes you sound like a spoiled, entitled brat. The way you reacted to everyone's honest feedback only reinforces that.
I don't have the time to read through all the posts, so this may be redundant. You can't expect your family and friends to buy you all the baby stuff you claim you "need." And by the way, you don't NEED a second changing table, a Diaper Genie, fancy matching bedding, a second full-size high chair, new, never-been-worn clothes, a fancy new (not used) stroller... If you can't afford to buy the things that you want yourself, then pair down, only get the necessities, and buy used. Really nice second-hand baby stuff is plentiful and much more economical.
Omg this is me. To a T. Being a teacher with a low income and having hubby have an even lower income does NOT equal expecting people to buy me shit.
Listen, if I'd say it to my BFF IRL, then I have no problem saying it to an internet stranger.
Oh, I missed that little gem.
Op-
With respect to age of kids, we are in a similar boat. The only item off your list that I have gotten is a double stroller...which I got as a Christmas gift. If finances are tight, look on Craigslist, eBay or at a resale store. Heck, I even saw an umbrella - type, double stroller on sale at BRU new for $89 the other day. I think PPs have already touched on why you don't need another changing table, high chair, etc.
As for the crib, is that typically something people even give at showers??? Personally, I did not get big ticket items like furniture at my shower. DH and I purchased LO's nursery furniture ourselves. Regardless, I would think your first LO would be moving up to a toddler bed by the time LO #2 arrives. Get your older kid a toddler bed and re-use the crib. Again, check out sales, Craigslist, etc. if money is tight.
Edit: damn quotes on mobile.
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
T 2.12 | W 5.14
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
@camrynnsmommy - Great minds think alike!
2011: FSH 13.3 & E 99; AMH 0.54 2nd FSH 6.2 E 40's AFC: 8
BFP from Clomid/IUI ~ Pre-e and IUGR during pregnancy ~ DS born 9/4/12
Feb./March 2013: AMH less than 0.16 (undectable) and AFC = 4;
BFP from supps ~ DS#2 due May 2014
May 2014 January Siggy Challenge:
Perhaps.
It's also a community. Generally, if you want support, you contribute to the community and provide it for others. Then it is gladly returned.
Before you lecture us on what is/isn't appropriate on this board, take that into consideration and actually read the thread you're commenting on. People were civil (with a bit of snark, which is how The Bump is in general). It was the OP who lashed out and called someone a bitch when it was totally unnecessary.
Thanks but no thanks on the Bump civility lesson. I think we've got it.
1. This board is not for support. No where on TB does it say "come be supported by other moms." It says "come chat with other moms." This is a community. As such, you have to participate to be considered part of that community. You don't get to come in and in your first interaction with the group act like a spoiled child. Imagine how that would go over in real life? A bunch of friends are chatting, you go up to them and start a conversation. You ask them a question and you get a unanimous answer. Then, you decide to get argumentative and whiney, and you call them names. What do you think would happen? Read this thread to find out. She decided to bully a member of our little M14 community so we mobilized. And really, this wasn't that bad. Good luck on TB if you think these flames were hot.
2. Now this is slightly flammable. I'm not really against second showers. If a friend offered to throw one for me, I'd jump on that shit. I'm all about the cash and prizes. Gift graby? Hells to the yes. Give me all the presents. But me all the things. I love it. Do it for my second baby, do it for my tenth. I'd want it to stay small and I'd HOPE for things like diapers and clothes. Here's what I wouldn't do- bitch if no one offered, throw my own, or EXPECT or DEMAND anything from anyone. If no one brings me a single gift for this baby, no big deal. I'll buy my own crap (of which I truly need very little). And I'd have told OP this very thing if is gotten to this post before she got nasty.
Also, read the rules. No random white knights allowed.
Said no one ever.