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ghostof5letters · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

And no my name is not misspelled its Abagail, thanks!

18, and a unique name...I'm painting a picture here.

EmeJay · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

Holy shit.

You think your SIL is spending all that time and money, plus doing crazy shit to her body only to "prove a point".

You're a keeper!

Raclla · January 2014

I met my H in a bar. He got my # around 3AM. The details are fuzzy.

6 1/2 years later we married. DD came a little more than a year later. There was alcohol involved in her conception. It was FUN! No shame. This one was conceived while worrying if DD would start crying before we were done.

I've broken a lot of 'rules', and it's awesome.

rockyrollgirl · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

Oh FFS.

jshrop · January 2014

adriennevazquez said:

Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have used the word 'bullshit' to describe the way people meet online. So I am sorry for my poor choice of wording and I will own up to that. However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'. I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them. It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic. Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.

hmm, lurker from June jumping in again. Sorry ladies, your FFFC is seriously got me hooked!!
@adriennevazquez I believe that you're jumping to just as many conclusions as that lady-what's-her-name twat. By saying that a couple's meeting on-line wasn't by "chance" kinda sounds like you're screwing with a butterfly effect theory. For example: even though boy has an on-line profile, what if he didn't check in for a few months. Then, girl he was destined to meet, marry, and then have a child who discovers a cure for cancer never happens. You see, as silly as it may sound, I believe that there is some pre-ordained notion that our lives are going to follow. So whether it was on-line or in the grocery store, it is serendipitous that each of us meet how we were supposed to. (Does any of that make sense?) who's to judge where you meet your SO? To each destiny their own. Happy Friday!!!!

mmb248 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

Is she trying to prove that anyone who wants to have a baby should get to have a baby? Because that sounds like an awesome point to prove.

FTR - it really sounds like YOU'RE trying to prove a point. You're the one that got knocked up while your SIL was going through IVF and then got mad about not getting enough attention.

adriennevazquez · January 2014

ninthgirl said:

adriennevazquez said:

Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have used the word 'bullshit' to describe the way people meet online. So I am sorry for my poor choice of wording and I will own up to that.

However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'.

I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them.

It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic.

Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.

I met my husband at church, so I don't have a personal dog in this fight. But after watching many friends marry via online dating, I would heartily disagree that the process doesn't have plenty of coincidences and organic elements.

Think about it this way - based on what you said, shouldn't you be joining an expecting moms group in your community and finding your comrades in pregnancy organically instead of spending time on TB?

Yes and As I was writing all of these posts I realized since I am posting this ONLINE that inevitably would be a losing this fight.

And the reason for me not looking for friends who are pregnant organically, I have chosen because of previous losses to hide my pregnancy for a while so I don't have to explain what happened again. But that's none of anyone's business.

Back to the online dating thing. There is nothing wrong with it, I am not saying it's WRONG. I am just saying in my opinion it would've been a very different journey for me and my husband had we had met online. And, like many if you said, I wouldn't change my experience with him for anything.

And like I said, in my 1st post, I chose poor wording to describe my thoughts about online dating and reading some of your points made me realize that so while I am NOT apologizing for my opinion, I do apologize for using nasty words to describe what I was trying to say.

mmb248 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

And no my name is not misspelled its Abagail, thanks!

Just because your mom misspelled it first doesn't make it right.

ElTrain5 · January 2014

KrystaJ said:

ElTrain5 said:

ladyabagail said:

Taking sperm from a cup and mixing it with an egg by a lab is not at all the same as a married couple creating a child by making love. Children will come into a marriage when the time is right, you shouldn't bring in stuff that is not supposed to happen like ivf. That is just how I feel nothing anyone says will change that. Children should be created in a marriage naturally .

My DH and I created our child by boning a lot....does that still count as a miracle? This is important.

Mine too. This is what happens when you're on bereavement leave for 2+ weeks and you forget you went off b/c because you were going to start trying but now is probably not a great time for your emotions to get more fucked up. Are natural and a miracle the same thing?

Also, I'm also confused about whether or not my marriage is okay at this point. I met my husband at a party/bar, but I SWEAR I was not trolling.

Your baby is obviously a product of the sins of alcohol and sadness. Sorry, no miracles.

ETA: @KristaJ

Poppy1985 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

TGager · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

So... because your SIL was unlucky with her first marriage and has found a new husband (hopefully for the better), you are superior to her? Not sure how "you are doing it the right way" compared to her...

It makes my heart hurt to hear all the hate and garbage that you are spewing about your future niece/nephew and their conception... As people have said, it takes a lot of love to go through IVF and hope that it works this time... EVERY CHILD IS A MIRACLE!

God gave that Dr. the knowledge and the calling to go into the field of infertility to help people like your SIL.

rockyrollgirl · January 2014

jshrop said:

adriennevazquez said:

Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have used the word 'bullshit' to describe the way people meet online. So I am sorry for my poor choice of wording and I will own up to that. However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'. I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them. It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic. Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.

hmm, lurker from June jumping in again. Sorry ladies, your FFFC is seriously got me hooked!!
@adriennevazquez I believe that you're jumping to just as many conclusions as that lady-what's-her-name twat. By saying that a couple's meeting on-line wasn't by "chance" kinda sounds like you're screwing with a butterfly effect theory. For example: even though boy has an on-line profile, what if he didn't check in for a few months. Then, girl he was destined to meet, marry, and then have a child who discovers a cure for cancer never happens. You see, as silly as it may sound, I believe that there is some pre-ordained notion that our lives are going to follow. So whether it was on-line or in the grocery store, it is serendipitous that each of us meet how we were supposed to. (Does any of that make sense?) who's to judge where you meet your SO? To each destiny their own. Happy Friday!!!!

.....and now I have a Bump crush.

EmeJay · January 2014

adriennevazquez said:

Yes and As I was writing all of these posts I realized since I am posting this ONLINE that inevitably would be a losing this fight. And the reason for me not looking for friends who are pregnant organically, I have chosen because of previous losses to hide my pregnancy for a while so I don't have to explain what happened again. But that's none of anyone's business. Back to the online dating thing. There is nothing wrong with it, I am not saying it's WRONG. I am just saying in my opinion it would've been a very different journey for me and my husband had we had met online. And, like many if you said, I wouldn't change my experience with him for anything. And like I said, in my 1st post, I chose poor wording to describe my thoughts about online dating and reading some of your points made me realize that so while I am NOT apologizing for my opinion, I do apologize for using nasty words to describe what I was trying to say.

You're not saying it's WRONG, you sai it's BULLSHIT

Dating is the process in which you spend time with someone and falls in love (or not with). Online site are only a way to find someone to date.

What would be different in your relationship if instead of any way you met him at first, it would have been online?

BlytheMac · January 2014

KrystaJ said:

Also, I'm also confused about whether or not my marriage is okay at this point. I met my husband at a party/bar, but I SWEAR I was not trolling.

Totally cool to meet at a party/bar... I was just referring to those girls who get all dolled up to go "man shopping" at bars and clubs looking for a legit relationship. My opinion is that no matter where you meet, be it at a club or bar or party, we all put in the hard work and decided to make that person our S/O. Who is to say that one was more hard work than the other?

adriennevazquez · January 2014

If you guys are just going to keep quoting my original statement and not read the thread then there is no point in continuing this conversation.

I know what I said originally, And I shouldn't have said it that way and I was wrong for that and I have NO problem saying that I am sorry for being nasty in my original post.

And before I get jumped on, I'm not sorry because that's what I meant and I shouldn't have said it. I apologize because I didn't mean it the way it came out initially.

KUGirl09 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

OMG! Seriously @ladyabagail ? Are you just a glutton for punishment child? Look. You are a newlywed, and 18 at that, so here is some advice. Marriage is not just marriage to your husband. It is to his family as well. Your SIL is now your family, and no matter what, you need to give her the respect that family deserves. You call yourself "traditional" and there is nothing more traditional than loving your own family. Do you HONESTLY think that your 18 year old husband is going to be able to back you up when you are attacking his sister? That is BLOOD. Seriously. My goodness. If you don't get some perspective on life and family, not only is your poor child gonna have some serious anger issues, but I am guessing you will end up in divorce just like your poor SIL. Get a grip. I'd love it if your husband saw the disgusting things you have written about his sister. I'm guessing you won't find much support from your own family if he did. Your SIL is a badass for finding love again and going through IVF. That is called unconditional love. That is how a family should behave, not judgmental, bitchy, evil, hateful, and jealous. For your baby's sake and your husband's and his family. GET A GRIP!

jshrop · January 2014

Holy shit, it keeps getting better!!! Quick, someone post a popcorn gif for me while I go make some!! Thank god hubs fell asleep after work, this shit is entertaining!!

liz4paws · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

I just can't get excited about artificial or ivf pregnancies. My sil did ivf and announced her pregnancy right after we announced. Now the whole family is acting like this is such a blessed miracle. Nope, not a miracle just an act of science. We created our baby thru love and noone seems to care now that sil has her science baby on the way.

What the hell is wrong with you? That's like saying no one paid attention to you stubbing your toe because your SIL just beat cancer. Cry me an effing river. Our baby took unbelievable amounts of love to create. He/she is made from love/science/GOD. It took the love and actions NINE PEOPLE across two continents over the course of a decade to create our amazing MIRACLE baby. AND YES he/she IS a miracle and so is your SILs. Thank god you don't know the pain of infertility, because if you did, you wouldn't say something so stupid and callous. I hope your child learns more about empathy and social tact from your SIL than he/she does you.

ghostof5letters · January 2014

LOLz at a married 18 year old judging someone for a second marriage.

God damn, I love karma.

EmleeSilva · January 2014

ladyabagail said:
Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

w00t. I too didn't use ovulation sticks. However I did get married half way through my first pregnancy... Damn, I was so close to the pedestal...

portentosa · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

WTF??

What point is SIL trying to prove? That she's a better person than you?

I can't even....

Cat&S · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

What point is that? The point that she really, really wants a child? What a horrible person she must be.

You need to grow up and pull your head out of your ass. You were luckily able to "achieve" getting pregnant without spending years trying and without spending $$$ on a hope and a dream of being a parent. Count your lucky stars and then put yourself in your SIL's place. Imagine trying for years, going to doctors monthly, giving yourself injections, taking pills, and having all of that not work. Perhaps this cost her her first marriage. Imagine that. Imagine yourself not conceiving in one year...in two years...in five years. How would you feel then?

If this is some religious thing, isn't there something in the bible about judgement and jealousy?

1982Babies · January 2014

jshrop said:

Holy shit, it keeps getting better!!! Quick, someone post a popcorn gif for me while I go make some!! Thank god hubs fell asleep after work, this shit is entertaining!!

janda426 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:
Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.

What the fuck? What do OPKs and IVF have to do with eachother? Good for you for being a horny little teenager who got pregnant without knowing shit about your body. Also what the hell does her divorce have to do with her current marriage and struggles TTC? My mom had children with three different men, all of whom she was involved with for many years. I guess the 8 children that came after me are all bastards who weren't conceived in love?

Also, LOL @ "the right way." I love this angle kids have nowadays- that getting married solves everything. Bills? Clothing? Health insurance? Rent/mortgage? Groceries? Patience, communication and understanding? All solved by marriage! You're in for a rude awakening sweetheart.

sarahg8r · January 2014

adriennevazquez said:

Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have used the word 'bullshit' to describe the way people meet online. So I am sorry for my poor choice of wording and I will own up to that. However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'. I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them. It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic. Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.

If you're so worried about being over involved in technology, WTF are you doing here?!

ghostof5letters · January 2014

I feel super mediocre that my FFFC was that there has been a dead bird lodged in the grill of my CRV for a week and I have no intentions of manually removing it.

mrscurlygurl · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point

Dammit...stuck in quote box hell! What the actual fuck little girl? SIL is trying to prove a point by spending thousands of dollars and I'm sure more in emotional turmoil by going through IVF? You are way too young to be so judgmental about life. Being on a second marriage and going through IVF does not make make your SIL a lesser person than you.

BlckRoses · January 2014

Thank you everyone for making today the most pointless day at work ever! I accomplished nothing today, and I loved every minute of it.

portentosa · January 2014

EmleeSilva said:

Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.
w00t. I too didn't use ovulation sticks. However I did get married half way through my first pregnancy... Damn, I was so close to the pedestal...

Same here! 8 months pregnant on my wedding day! I lived in sin for so long. And I am the child of divorce! I'm a horrible person.

ghostof5letters · January 2014

Why did my comment not post?

LOLz at a married and pregnant 18 year old judging a woman on her second marriage.

God damn, I love karma.

*yes, I realize there are exceptions to every scenario....blah blah blah...and your parents have been married since they were 15 and 12 and still in love....blah blah blah.

meggyski · January 2014

adriennevazquez said:

If you guys are just going to keep quoting my original statement and not read the thread then there is no point in continuing this conversation. I know what I said originally, And I shouldn't have said it that way and I was wrong for that and I have NO problem saying that I am sorry for being nasty in my original post. And before I get jumped on, I'm not sorry because that's what I meant and I shouldn't have said it. I apologize because I didn't mean it the way it came out initially.

Fair enough. At least you're willing to consider some alternate viewpoints and modify your position. That's more than I can say for @ladyabagail, unfortunately.

Bbaby0923 · January 2014

ladyabagail said:
We all are able to have are on values and beliefs mine happen to be more traditional. I'm not the only person that doesn't agree with artificial pregnancy methods. I may be only 18 but I'm handling this a lot more maturely than many of you who are calling me names and throwing insults. Who needs to grow up now?

Wait....you're 18?!? And you are sitting here giving your "view" on how you are better than someone who conceived through IVF? I'm assuming she is older, more mature and more successful than you. Why don't you finish high school before you start spreading your "values." You have no idea how stupid you sound and what these couples go through. 18...married...and pregnant. Congrats. Pssh.

Bbaby0923 · January 2014

Ps- thanks for keeping me entertained...

tealowl · January 2014

Spookster said:

tealowl said:

I would just like to thank OKCupid.com, for helping me find my S/O. He couldn't have come at a better time. He's the love of my life.
Myspace Marriage hurr

Hi Tealy Poo's!

Haiiiiiii!

OMG, MySpace. Miss it forever.

BlckRoses · January 2014

LindsRockies said:

I find it crazy that so many people in this thread find this Abagail shit entertaining. It's fucking HURTFUL to many, many women who've achieved a pregnancy via IUI or IVF. There's nothing entertaining about it. As a mother to an IUI baby, 2 years ago a post like this would have had me in tears.

I hope my comment wasn't hurtful about enjoying the thread! I was more enjoying the rallying together of everyone and how people from a bunch of other boards came over to support each other, even if they haven't gone through IF themselves. It's part of the community here that I love, when someone is out of line and being horrible, the women here are sure to let them know.

adriennevazquez · January 2014

And this is why I n

sarahg8r said:

adriennevazquez said:

Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have used the word 'bullshit' to describe the way people meet online. So I am sorry for my poor choice of wording and I will own up to that. However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'. I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them. It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic. Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.

If you're so worried about being over involved in technology, WTF are you doing here?!

Not that it's ANY of your business and I already explained this, I have chosen not to tell people in my life about my pregnancy because of previous losses so THAT is what I am doing here.

My last pregnancy I was not on any of these boards.

But I will say, other than this post, which I have learned my lesson, I do generally enjoy the support on this site.

That said, while I am not pro online dating because that is not how I met my husband, maybe if i tried it I would feel differently. Just like I feel about using these forums this time around in my pregnancy and not last time.

And unlike some people on this thread, I have no problem apologizing for the 10th time for my poor wording choice and I have no problem admitting what I said above.

rockyrollgirl · January 2014

LindsRockies said:

I find it crazy that so many people in this thread find this Abagail shit entertaining. It's fucking HURTFUL to many, many women who've achieved a pregnancy via IUI or IVF. There's nothing entertaining about it. As a mother to an IUI baby, 2 years ago a post like this would have had me in tears.

*hugs*

firesiren · January 2014

ladyabagail said:

I just can't get excited about artificial or ivf pregnancies. My sil did ivf and announced her pregnancy right after we announced. Now the whole family is acting like this is such a blessed miracle. Nope, not a miracle just an act of science. We created our baby thru love and noone seems to care now that sil has her science baby on the way.

You are despicable. I feel sorry that your SIL has someone like you around. You are an AW and you need to put your big girl panties on. The world doesn't revolve around you. AND FWIW.... Just because you got pregnant the "natural way" doesn't mean your baby came from more love. That's just ridiculous. I hope your husband has the capacity to teach your child compassion because you do not.

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jshrop · January 2014

BlckRoses said:

LindsRockies said:

I find it crazy that so many people in this thread find this Abagail shit entertaining. It's fucking HURTFUL to many, many women who've achieved a pregnancy via IUI or IVF. There's nothing entertaining about it. As a mother to an IUI baby, 2 years ago a post like this would have had me in tears.

I hope my comment wasn't hurtful about enjoying the thread! I was more enjoying the rallying together of everyone and how people from a bunch of other boards came over to support each other, even if they haven't gone through IF themselves. It's part of the community here that I love, when someone is out of line and being horrible, the women here are sure to let them know.

@LindsRockies I am very sorry. It's entertaining to see ladies rally against stupidity. It's also entertaining to see people try to dig themselves out of a hole.

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