Lurking from June14, word does travel fast on TB. I agree with a previous poster. Maybe @ladyabigail should find another board to call home. Come on over sweetie, I'm pretty sure my other BM ladies would LOVE to speak with you. Give me a heads up before hand so I can grab some snacks ahead of time. (I can only shake my head, sigh and remain dumbfounded at your attitude)
I didn't realize people get married once they find someone online. If that was true I wouldn't have dated my husband for 7.5 years before we got married. I would have just read his college basketball bio.
I'm pretty sure all the "hard work" starts once they meet and decide to date. Just like everyone else.
That's my "logical sense" part. Her post makes it sound like an arranged marriage / mail order bride scenario. Read bio, order wife. Viola MARRIED
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Part of having your own beliefs is defending those beliefs... You've said nothing to defend yourself so how are people even supposed to take you seriously? You just look mean and spiteful. You have also showed no remorse for hurting people so you obviously can't stay here. People won't forget. Join a different community and learn how to filter yourself.
I just can't get excited about artificial or ivf pregnancies. My sil did ivf and announced her pregnancy right after we announced. Now the whole family is acting like this is such a blessed miracle. Nope, not a miracle just an act of science. We created our baby thru love and noone seems to care now that sil has her science baby on the way.
My very good friend called me TODAY to tell me that she lost her twins after seeing the heartbeats already. She did IVF because her husband has low sperm count. And couldn't get pregnant on her own. She put two embryos in and only one took but it split and she had identical twins in there. Which happened naturally on its own. And now they are gone and she has to do a D&C Monday. If you cannot get pregnant on your own shouldn't you still have a chance at motherhood?? No matter how she got pregnant she still had babies with heart beats in there and now they are gone and that's sad.
Ok, just got through all of that. Here is @ladyabagail's intro... "Hi Everyone! I'm super excited to be here. My husband and I are newlywed
high school sweethearts. We've been married for 6 months and are beyond
thrilled to be expecting our first baby due 8/26/14. I look forward to
getting to know everyone."
@ladyabagail, you are truly blessed to have met a wonderful man so early in life and to have gotten KU before the ink on your marriage license has even dried. Your SIL has undoubtedly been trying to create her miracle baby for longer than you've been legal, SOOOOO sad that all her pain, hope, and love has finally given her what she most wants just when you are pregnant too, total bummer.
You need to just leave here because you will not find any friends.
Taking sperm from a cup and mixing it with an egg by a lab is not at all the same as a married couple creating a child by making love. Children will come into a marriage when the time is right, you shouldn't bring in stuff that is not supposed to happen like ivf. That is just how I feel nothing anyone says will change that. Children should be created in a marriage naturally .
My DH and I created our child by boning a lot....does that still count as a miracle? This is important.
I think online dating us BULLSHIT. Go out and struggle to get to know someone the hard way instead of reading a Bio and having people do the hard work for you. I am aware that this is an ever growing trend and I just think it's silly.
Marriage is hard work and dedication. Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication.
WTAF? Do you think people go on one date after meeting someone online and then get married? What the hell does the hard work of marriage have to do with how you met? How does it not require dedication? You know what? You get this gif too.
I said it before and I will say it again. Online dating is the new trend and perhaps is why regular people are having trouble finding good people the old fashioned way.
There is nothing wrong with online dating. I, personally, just would rather things be simpler. People meeting organically. That's all.
No need for the fuck yous.
If that's how you found your husband. Good for you!
It makes me laugh that people want honest opinions on here and confessions but get their panties in a bunch when you give them your HONEST opinion!
I think online dating us BULLSHIT. Go out and struggle to get to know someone the hard way instead of reading a Bio and having people do the hard work for you. I am aware that this is an ever growing trend and I just think it's silly.
Marriage is hard work and dedication. Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication.
Oh, my. Just no, get out along with @ladyabagail. You have no idea how hard it is to meet people and online dating is just another way to do it. Stop being so close-minded.
Personally, I think she did struggle and did find it hard to meet someone which is why she's so bitter. If she had given online dating a chance, she may have met someone before she decayed into this bitter betty.
Who knows though, I had "help" -- I met my husband on a blind date set up by a mutual friend.
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I just can't believe this abagail chick keeps saying "making love." Only teenagers and old ladies who read romance novels say "making love" in real life.
I'm pretty sure if I asked H to make love to me, he would look at me like I was crazy.
I think online dating us BULLSHIT. Go out and struggle to get to know someone the hard way instead of reading a Bio and having people do the hard work for you. I am aware that this is an ever growing trend and I just think it's silly.
Marriage is hard work and dedication. Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication.
Can you explain a bit more, please? As others pointed out, one doesn't read bio --> order wife/husband --> get married. Finding someone through an online dating site really isn't much different (as far as I understand it) from having a friend introduce you to someone they think would be a good fit for you. The two individuals still have to get to know each other beyond that first introduction...
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DH met a friend of mine online who then hooked us up and we've been together 10+ years now. Does that count as online dating? I just want to know if my marriage is legit.
I hate how posters like ladyabigail have hijacked the word "traditional" so now when anybody describes themselves as having "traditional" values I automatically think they're a bunch of ignorant, close-minded homophobes. Back when I was a kid having "traditional" values meant that you loved and accepted others and tried really, really hard not to be too judgmental.
I agree. I would describe myself as being traditional. I would describe miss Abigail as being radical... (and not the cool 80s term.)
EDITED: and I still can't figure out this quote crap...
I think online dating us BULLSHIT. Go out and struggle to get to know someone the hard way instead of reading a Bio and having people do the hard work for you. I am aware that this is an ever growing trend and I just think it's silly.
Marriage is hard work and dedication. Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication.
Can you explain a bit more, please? As others pointed out, one doesn't read bio --> order wife/husband --> get married. Finding someone through an online dating site really isn't much different (as far as I understand it) from having a friend introduce you to someone they think would be a good fit for you. The two individuals still have to get to know each other beyond that first introduction...
Right but it is different. Not completely different but it is different.
@ladyabagail clearly, your position on IVF is offensive and hurful to the fast majority of people on this board. While you're obviously entitled to your own opinion, you're certainly not entitled to any sort of protection from the consequences of sharing that opinion. The consequences of sharing your opinion here are that your credibility has been ruined and you are no longer welcome here. I hope this has been a learning experience for you, and I hope that in the future, you'll think twice before sharing your hurtful views with your SIL (or with anyone else, for that matter).
I said it before and I will say it again. Online dating is the new trend and perhaps is why regular people are having trouble finding good people the old fashioned way.
There is nothing wrong with online dating. I, personally, just would rather things be simpler. People meeting organically. That's all.
No need for the fuck yous.
If that's how you found your husband. Good for you!
It makes me laugh that people want honest opinions on here and confessions but get their panties in a bunch when you give them your HONEST opinion!
It's all in the way you say it. You called it BULLSHIT. I think you're confusing the point of FFFCs. If you share a judgy-mcjudgeson opinion, you will get flamed for it. You basically said you think there is someone wrong with people who date online. Apparently we aren't "regular" people. Times have changed sweetie. Technology advances. As technology grows, so does our access to the world and thus the way we meet people....hello, online forum, where I've made tons of friends.
I said it before and I will say it again. Online dating is the new trend and perhaps is why regular people are having trouble finding good people the old fashioned way.
There is nothing wrong with online dating. I, personally, just would rather things be simpler. People meeting organically. That's all.
No need for the fuck yous.
If that's how you found your husband. Good for you!
It makes me laugh that people want honest opinions on here and confessions but get their panties in a bunch when you give them your HONEST opinion!
What exactly is the old fashioned way? Because I dated guys I met at work, the bank, the grocery store, church, through friends, at bars, at local sporting events, by joining local groups, etc.
You just said that the way I met my husband was bullshit (or BULLSHIT as you stated) and stated that there was no work put into it. Don't backtrack and act like you're okay with it now.
Congratulations to you that you were able to meet your husband without jumping through the online hoops. Be thankful for that.
It's called FFFC, but the whole point is really to wait for some moron
to vocalize a stupid opinion/confession so that it creates entertainment
for the group. Well done.
I think online dating us BULLSHIT. Go out and struggle to get to know someone the hard way instead of reading a Bio and having people do the hard work for you. I am aware that this is an ever growing trend and I just think it's silly.
Marriage is hard work and dedication. Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication.
Oh, my. Just no, get out along with @ladyabagail. You have no idea how hard it is to meet people and online dating is just another way to do it. Stop being so close-minded.
OMG! I wanted to write the same thing. How on earth my nerdy, shy, Engineering husband and I would have ever met without Match.com I have no idea. Dating when you are out of college 29+ is a Biatch! Instead of trolling clubs where drunk dudes hit on me all the time, (and were obviously not even remotely "good guys") I found someone that shared the same values as me in a very large city. Thats like searching for a needle in a haystack unless you have some help. @adriennevazquez glad you met someone the "Hard way" but as for me, I wouldn't have had it any other way.
I think online dating us BULLSHIT. Go out and struggle to get to know someone the hard way instead of reading a Bio and having people do the hard work for you. I am aware that this is an ever growing trend and I just think it's silly.
Marriage is hard work and dedication. Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication.
I came over here from July to see the IVF drama, and just saw this as well. WTF?!! I met my husband online. At the time we were both working 60+ hrs/week in a big city. Was I supposed to meet someone at midnight? How? How was I supposed to "go out and struggle to meet someone the hard way"? All the dating site helped me do is get introduced to a really nice guy that I would never have met otherwise. I was so LUCKY to have this opportunity. My husband and I DID work hard and were dedicated to getting to know eachother the "hard way." We dated the same as anyone else. We didn't meet up, say "whew, the hard work is done!" and sign our marriage certificate right then and there. FFS - you are ignorant.
I said it before and I will say it again. Online dating is the new trend and perhaps is why regular people are having trouble finding good people the old fashioned way.
There is nothing wrong with online dating. I, personally, just would rather things be simpler. People meeting organically. That's all.
No need for the fuck yous.
If that's how you found your husband. Good for you!
It makes me laugh that people want honest opinions on here and confessions but get their panties in a bunch when you give them your HONEST opinion!
Actually, you DID imply that there was something wrong with online dating. That it wasn't hard and required no determination. How did you meet your husband? I'm just trying to figure out the status quo here...
**Edited...because you also called it "BULLSHIT" --all caps. Way to back track, though
There is nothing wrong with online dating. I, personally, just would rather things be simpler. People meeting organically. That's all.
See, but that's not what you said originally. Your first post said that online dating is (and I quote) "BULLSHIT" and you accused people who date online as being lazy for not doing "real work" by depending on a bio. That's quite different than merely saying that online dating is not the right answer for you.
In general: if your opinion involves an attack on people who don't share that opinion, I'd say you can pretty much count on people calling you out for that.
I just can't believe this abagail chick keeps saying "making love." Only teenagers and old ladies who read romance novels say "making love" in real life.
I'm pretty sure if I asked H to make love to me, he would look at me like I was crazy.
This. Based on my own experience, there is not much "making love" involved in baby making. There's a whole lot of "oh hey honey I just got the smiley face on the ovulation stick, do you have time before you go to work but after my meeting?" All done with loving intentions of course
I just can't get excited about artificial or ivf pregnancies. My sil did ivf and announced her pregnancy right after we announced. Now the whole family is acting like this is such a blessed miracle. Nope, not a miracle just an act of science. We created our baby thru love and noone seems to care now that sil has her science baby on the way.
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Well you're speaking like a cunt.
Who the fuck are you to determine whether or not a child is created through love based on how they were made ?
I would never wish infertility on ANYONE, but one day I really hope you don't have to CHOKE on the fucking garbage you have spewed here today.
Fucking disgusting cow.
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Perhaps you are right and I shouldn't have used the word 'bullshit' to describe the way people meet online. So I am sorry for my poor choice of wording and I will own up to that.
However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'.
I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them.
It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic.
Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.
I just can't get excited about artificial or ivf pregnancies. My sil did ivf and announced her pregnancy right after we announced. Now the whole family is acting like this is such a blessed miracle. Nope, not a miracle just an act of science. We created our baby thru love and noone seems to care now that sil has her science baby on the way.
Creepy science baby maker weighing in (embryologist) she on you @ladyabagail -- shame on your for being so jealous of your SIL, that you've resorted to attacking all people who've had IVF -- an IVF baby may be made in a laboratory, but that doesn't make it any less a miracle than yours.
Well our child was conceived without ovulation sticks. We've been open to pregnancy and creating a child since the very first time we had sex. It so happens that we achieved that after only a few months of marriage. Sil has been divorced and is on her second marriage. We are married and doing things the right way sil is just trying to prove a point.
We all are able to have are on values and beliefs mine happen to be more traditional. I'm not the only person that doesn't agree with artificial pregnancy methods. I may be only 18 but I'm handling this a lot more maturely than many of you who are calling me names and throwing insults. Who needs to grow up now?
There is a huge difference between not believing in it for yourself and judging other people and treating them like crap and worthless because they do. My SIL has struggled for many years with IF but she won't use IVF or an IUI because they are catholic and their church disapproves and I can respect her differing religious views but she'd never in a million years say the vile things you are saying. Maybe when you are not 18 you'll be able to see the world from beyond your closed mind.
Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.
Actually, what you said that I thought to be interesting was that "Starting a marriage reading a bio online is not hard and doesn't require any dedication." Which I call BULLSHIT on.
This FFFC is way more intriguing than ours. So I'm board crashing in a big way.
It wasn't hard to meet my H while he was standing next to a pool table, get drunk and make out all night. What was hard was overcoming obstacles over the next 5 years and always agreeing that we'd still be together. Who the fuck cares HOW you meet the person? What matters is the choices you make every day for the rest of your life with that person.
Also, I'm fuming for @ladyabagail sister in law. Fucking imagine your shithead 18 year old know-it-all SIL who probably got married only because she needed the title of "wife" before getting KTFU to insult and judge the method in which you became pregnant. Tell us more, oh wise newly high school grad. You are just SO above everyone else.
Re: FFFC
(I can only shake my head, sigh and remain dumbfounded at your attitude)
I actually know someone named Johnny Walker. His mom had no idea it was booze
@ladyabagail, you are truly blessed to have met a wonderful man so early in life and to have gotten KU before the ink on your marriage license has even dried. Your SIL has undoubtedly been trying to create her miracle baby for longer than you've been legal, SOOOOO sad that all her pain, hope, and love has finally given her what she most wants just when you are pregnant too, total bummer.
You need to just leave here because you will not find any friends.
There is nothing wrong with online dating. I, personally, just would rather things be simpler. People meeting organically. That's all.
No need for the fuck yous.
If that's how you found your husband. Good for you!
It makes me laugh that people want honest opinions on here and confessions but get their panties in a bunch when you give them your HONEST opinion!
I'm pretty sure if I asked H to make love to me, he would look at me like I was crazy.
I hate how posters like ladyabigail have hijacked the word "traditional" so now when anybody describes themselves as having "traditional" values I automatically think they're a bunch of ignorant, close-minded homophobes. Back when I was a kid having "traditional" values meant that you loved and accepted others and tried really, really hard not to be too judgmental.
I agree. I would describe myself as being traditional. I would describe miss Abigail as being radical... (and not the cool 80s term.)
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Right but it is different. Not completely different but it is different.
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You just said that the way I met my husband was bullshit (or BULLSHIT as you stated) and stated that there was no work put into it. Don't backtrack and act like you're okay with it now.
Congratulations to you that you were able to meet your husband without jumping through the online hoops. Be thankful for that.
It's called FFFC, but the whole point is really to wait for some moron to vocalize a stupid opinion/confession so that it creates entertainment for the group. Well done.
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How did you meet your husband? I'm just trying to figure out the status quo here...
**Edited...because you also called it "BULLSHIT" --all caps. Way to back track, though
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However, like I said before, I do think there is something to be said about this world that is 'all about technology'.
I am not bitter. I am happy for anyone who finds someone and is happily married. However they get there, again, GOOD for them.
It's just sad that almost everything we do now is through technology and nothing seems to be by chance or coincidence or organic.
Doesn't mean i think your marriages are going to fail or are less important than mine. Just means, in my opinion, we rely too much on technology.
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It wasn't hard to meet my H while he was standing next to a pool table, get drunk and make out all night. What was hard was overcoming obstacles over the next 5 years and always agreeing that we'd still be together. Who the fuck cares HOW you meet the person? What matters is the choices you make every day for the rest of your life with that person.
Also, I'm fuming for @ladyabagail sister in law. Fucking imagine your shithead 18 year old know-it-all SIL who probably got married only because she needed the title of "wife" before getting KTFU to insult and judge the method in which you became pregnant. Tell us more, oh wise newly high school grad. You are just SO above everyone else.