This is what happens when you don't vaccinate your kids.

spacepotatoes · January 2014

I haven't really done any research yet on the chicken pox vaccine so what I posted earlier was mostly spitballing. The responses have been thought-provoking, though.

jjh471 · January 2014

I'm just going to add something about the chicken pox vax. DH had the vax because he never got the chicken pox when he was a kid. He had a booster ten years later. He is a corrections officer and the jail he works at had a out break of the CP. He ended up getting the CP twice (confirmed by the doctor, I guess lik

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed. Fine you don't want to protect your own child, but in the process you are putting other children/people at risk. Chicken Pox, while seemingly harmless can be fatal to a newborn baby, well...I wouldn't want to be responsible for that. Yeah yeah my five year old took on the pox like a champ, we did however kill our next door neighbor's newborn....her problem not mine! WTF.

Also, people often overlook kids like Asher. Asher has PID and would not be able to attend public school if we didn't have mandated vaccines in this state. Seriously, I can give Asher the pox vaccine, but his immune system is so compromised that he can still get it if he is exposed to other children who aren't vaccinated. And the pox for Asher is not going to be a "rite of childhood" it is going to be a inpatient hospital ordeal.

It is selfish not to vax, selfish.

You need to write a blog or a book. Asap. 100% agree. I teach kindergarten and being pregnant with all those kids coughing and sneezing makes me think about who may or may not have been vaxed. Scary stuff.

busterbeagle · January 2014

Darya10 said:
Everyone is different . She was probably not exposed to sick people when she was young Therefore her immune system wasn't build up and when disease came around it attacked her . It's all logical . All kids need to get sick at some point, if you prevent your kids from getting sick by vaccinating them then they won't have a immune system at all , the concept of vaccination should work but sometimes it doesn't . Medicine is not perfect sorry

How do you manage to not be exposed to sick people? Bubble boy, anyone? That's different alright.

I let my kid build up her immunities by not being a germaphobe and by not using antibacterial hand soap. But there are some illnesses I don't want to risk, and that's why she (and I) receive vaccinations. I'm not preventing her from getting sick, just preventing her from getting things that are both serious and mostly preventable. And would be even more preventable if everyone who could receive vaccinations did receive them.

Tkhixen · January 2014

I have a friend that is very vocal about her "natural" lifestyle. She even switches out her kids candy and stuff for all natural stuff. She is always posting articles about being anit-vax. I fully intend to vaccinate my children for all the stuff I was vaccinated for, and what is required. I don't do the flu shot, only because I have never had the flu and I tend not to get sick like that. I didn't want to get it while pregnant since I have never had it, I don't know what my reaction would have been. My DH gets it, and he always has horrible reactions to it. I will gladly give my kids the chicken pox vaccine so they don't have to endure that....it sucks! I was a lucky one who had them twice! And I have them to my dad, and it was awful. If I can prevent my child from having shingles, then I will. I can't remember the last time I needed an antibiotic for anything...but they are around for a reason. I am just lucky that even being a 2nd grade teacher, I have a very good immune system. I'm knocking on wood as I write this!

rainydayluck · January 2014

When I first heard about the chicken pox vaccine, I thought I wouldn't get it for my kids. Then I researched it and DD will get it. You can get pox on your brain. Here is a link about pox issues: https://shotbyshot.org/story-gallery/#Chicken Pox

Also, if you get it as an adult (chicken pox), it can affect fertility. We get the flu vaccine for the same reason DD will get the chicken pox vaccine. Yeah, it isn't as deadly or life changing as some other scary illnesses, but why gamble with the potential for death and life changing complications when I know she does fine with vaccines?

MeredithElese · January 2014

Soupy84 said:
I can't help but be grateful that I actually got the flu shot this year (normally I don't). There is now a rather large H1N1 outbreak where I live and have already dealt with customers who have been in direct contact with those suffering in the hospital. This year's flu vaccine covered H1N1. And whomever said medicine is not perfect, is correct. If it was perfect, they would have found a way to bypass my resistance to the rubella vaccine so that I and my unborn child would be protected. No such luck yet, but I am hugely pro-vaccine and will totally side-eye the parents of the other children in my children's classes the next time there is a rubella outbreak.

I was going to say this. We've also had a big H1N1 outbreak and the people who did not get the shot are down for several weeks with solid fever and feeling like death. People who did get the shot are getting sick for a few days and then better. Lots that previously skipped the shot are running back out to get one now. I know it's a gamble, but I've never had an issue with the shot and it's free so... worth it in my mind? I know the opposite can be said as well.

sisterjanet · January 2014

florassecret said:

Thanks for sharing! I always wondered what it was like for people to grow up and not be vaccinated.

My grandfather had polio so I will be vaccinating my children. I still sit on the fence with the chicken pox one, as I had it as a child and survived. But I feel that if the chicken pox vaccine is now common practice, it would be best to vaccinate my children as well, because who knows how serious it could be if they get it.

I haven't read all the responses so maybe other people have said this better. I was on the fence too, but DH was for it and the doctor explained that usually it's just itchy misery (which was bad enough to be the kid in the oatmeal bath when it was me, but thinking about being on the mom side...) and then sometimes (rarely, but still) chicken pox has serious complications.

sisterjanet · January 2014

ABColeslaw said:

My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed. Fine you don't want to protect your own child, but in the process you are putting other children/people at risk. Chicken Pox, while seemingly harmless can be fatal to a newborn baby, well...I wouldn't want to be responsible for that. Yeah yeah my five year old took on the pox like a champ, we did however kill our next door neighbor's newborn....her problem not mine! WTF.

Also, people often overlook kids like Asher. Asher has PID and would not be able to attend public school if we didn't have mandated vaccines in this state. Seriously, I can give Asher the pox vaccine, but his immune system is so compromised that he can still get it if he is exposed to other children who aren't vaccinated. And the pox for Asher is not going to be a "rite of childhood" it is going to be a inpatient hospital ordeal.

It is selfish not to vax, selfish.

I'm planning to homeschool and it's affecting me anyway. My son and this baby are getting all the shots unless there's some legit health reason the baby can't, but I know there are homeschool families that we hang out with who don't vaccinate. It makes me cranky to try and assess the risk of my new baby getting pertussis if we go play with these kids at the park before he's old enough for his first shots.

Kristy&Rodney · January 2014

sthomas1222 said:

kat8805 said:

I guess I'm a bit in between. I refuse the flu vaccine, and find the chicken pox vaccine a bit ridiculous, but any of the major, life threatening, life altering diseases, sign us up.

I don't get the flu vaccine either. I will be refusing the chicken pox vaccine for DD. I once heard the reason that the chicken pox vaccine is part of the schedule is b/c it was developed for kids with cancer, leukemia, etc... kids who need to be vaccinated or they very well could die from chicken pox. But it wasn't lucrative enough for the manufacturers if only given to sick kids so they were going to pull it off the market if the CDC didn't make it part of the routine schedule for ALL kids. I don't know if that's true but I wouldn't be surprised.
We vaccinate. I do split them up and kinda do an altered alternative schedule like Dr. Sears. But we just split them by a week. The 2 month shots DD passed out after, woke up screaming inconsolably, passed back out with tylenol and slept for about 10 hours. She fell asleep on the couch and I didn't want to move her should she wake up screaming again so I dozed curled up in a ball or on the floor with my hand on her til 4am when DH woke up and was like "wtf is going on?". So, I just do an extra trip, no copay, and get half the shots the next week.
I would never be able to forgive myself if she got whooping cough or meningitis or anything else we could've prevented.

Ok, I think you misunderstood this. A lot of children who have leukemia, cancers, congenital heart defects, and other illnesses CANNOT get vaccinated and therefore rely on those who CAN to be fully vaccinated. If one of these children contracts a "simple", usually harmless virus like the chickenpox, it can be deadly to them, and therefore, it is completely appropriate and responsible to vaccinate your child against it so they don't spread it around.

Shell+Bell · January 2014

When I was pregnant with my first m dad made a comment to me "you're not going to be like one of those fcktards who won't vax your kids, right?" Thought it was an odd comment cause I never considered not vax-ing, and didn't realize there was controversy about it. But yah, I'm not a 'fcktard' and I vax my kids. For chickenpox too. Because I had it twice as a kid. And there's a lot of adults who are not vax'd cause it wasn't around back then. So if they get pox, which is more serious for adults, then they won't be getting it from my kids.

CamrynnsMommy · January 2014

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed.

I totally agree and DD2 has never been in daycare for that reason exactly. DD1 had to have a waiver signed by a medical professional to start school.

awisern · January 2014

Chicken pox can be deadly to an infant. Again this is where heard immunity comes into play - to help protect those that can't be vaccinated, like infant and immunocompromised.

Even those who have not had the chicken pox or been vax can contract it from someone with shingles. So all of you who had and survived chicken pox - if you get shingles later in life you are contagious to all those who have never had it.

As an FYI, if we have a newborn that has been exposed just prior to birth or shortly after birth - that baby goes to the NICU and is quarantined from people (sometimes even from mom) for 7-21 days.

danagmauro · January 2014

raeg13 said:
LOVE this article. What frustrates me is that there are some people whose get vaccinated but they don't work so they need to rely on others to be vaccinated and keep the diseases away altogether. I have had the MMR shot several times, but am still not Rubella immune. As a school teacher, I have to count on my kids to be vaccinated so I don't get it.

I have a parent of a student in my class who did not vaccinate. Now I have to worry every single day that I could catch a life threatening disease from her son if some of my immunities have worn off. Although I was vaccinated for the major illnesses I did have chicken pox as a 3 yr old but my immunities have worn out ( I never even knew this could happen) she is putting others in danger for her choices and I'm not cool with that at all!

jjh471 · January 2014

Kristy&Rodney said:

sthomas1222 said:

kat8805 said:

I guess I'm a bit in between. I refuse the flu vaccine, and find the chicken pox vaccine a bit ridiculous, but any of the major, life threatening, life altering diseases, sign us up.

I don't get the flu vaccine either. I will be refusing the chicken pox vaccine for DD. I once heard the reason that the chicken pox vaccine is part of the schedule is b/c it was developed for kids with cancer, leukemia, etc... kids who need to be vaccinated or they very well could die from chicken pox. But it wasn't lucrative enough for the manufacturers if only given to sick kids so they were going to pull it off the market if the CDC didn't make it part of the routine schedule for ALL kids. I don't know if that's true but I wouldn't be surprised.
We vaccinate. I do split them up and kinda do an altered alternative schedule like Dr. Sears. But we just split them by a week. The 2 month shots DD passed out after, woke up screaming inconsolably, passed back out with tylenol and slept for about 10 hours. She fell asleep on the couch and I didn't want to move her should she wake up screaming again so I dozed curled up in a ball or on the floor with my hand on her til 4am when DH woke up and was like "wtf is going on?". So, I just do an extra trip, no copay, and get half the shots the next week.
I would never be able to forgive myself if she got whooping cough or meningitis or anything else we could've prevented.

Ok, I think you misunderstood this. A lot of children who have leukemia, cancers, congenital heart defects, and other illnesses CANNOT get vaccinated and therefore rely on those who CAN to be fully vaccinated. If one of these children contracts a "simple", usually harmless virus like the chickenpox, it can be deadly to them, and therefore, it is completely appropriate and responsible to vaccinate your child against it so they don't spread it around.

Agree with you on this... I posted this yesterday

https://www.voicesforvaccines.org/when-its-not-a-choice-measles-and-leukemia/

Exactly what you said, this mom is saying...

Hedgessm · January 2014

CamrynnsMommy said:

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed.
I totally agree and DD2 has never been in daycare for that reason exactly. DD1 had to have a waiver signed by a medical professional to start school.

I believe it is required at least where we are unless there's a legit medical reason. It's seems like that should be the norm everywhere. I mean if I can't get my cats nails clipped at pet smart without proving he's gotten a rabbies shot then why can you send your potentially dangerous child to school?

mirdamae03 · January 2014

My aunt died yesterday due to complications from H1N1. You better believe I am encouraging all of my friends who haven't gotten the shot to get it. My work brings someone in yearly to do ours, but I've been putting off getting DS's. We are going Monday to get it.

CamrynnsMommy · January 2014

Hedgessm said:

CamrynnsMommy said:

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed.
I totally agree and DD2 has never been in daycare for that reason exactly. DD1 had to have a waiver signed by a medical professional to start school.
I believe it is required at least where we are unless there's a legit medical reason. It's seems like that should be the norm everywhere. I mean if I can't get my cats nails clipped at pet smart without proving he's gotten a rabbies shot then why can you send your potentially dangerous child to school?

It's required here too. Thankfully! We had to go through a lot of hoops to prove that we weren't just trying to get out of it, but had we claimed we didn't vaccinate due to religious reasons it would've been NBD.

mrspopsicle · January 2014

The flu IS deadly. Not just for the old or immunocompromised. It's deadly to healthy kids and adults. I work in a pediatric ICU. I've seen kids and young adults die from it or end up on ECMO (a machine that functions as your heart and lungs to allow them to recover) for weeks. The lucky ones fully recover.

Several years ago we had a previously healthy 18 year old kid come in with the flu. He was on ECMO for several weeks. His lungs were so damaged from the illness/being on the ventilator that long that he ended up needing a lung transplant. Now he's in his early twenties and has leukemia due his anti rejection meds from transplant.

The flu is scary shit. No one is immune from the risks - especially if you've never had it. I would not mess around with it. I know some people who get vaccinated still get a different strain of the flu, but in my experience those aren't the ones who end up in the ICU (or worse). Usually they have a much shorter and milder illness.

jjh471 · January 2014

CamrynnsMommy said:

Hedgessm said:

CamrynnsMommy said:

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed.
I totally agree and DD2 has never been in daycare for that reason exactly. DD1 had to have a waiver signed by a medical professional to start school.
I believe it is required at least where we are unless there's a legit medical reason. It's seems like that should be the norm everywhere. I mean if I can't get my cats nails clipped at pet smart without proving he's gotten a rabbies shot then why can you send your potentially dangerous child
to school?

It's required here too. Thankfully! We had to go through a lot of hoops to prove that we weren't just trying to get out of it, but had we claimed we didn't vaccinate due to religious reasons it would've been NBD.

Same here but the ppl that don't claim it's for religious reasons and I don't think anyone is really checking that. So pretty much anyone can do it so there kid can attend public school and not be vaxed. I know this because I have several friends that are doing it. Makes me SOOOOO mad.

Hedgessm · January 2014

jjh471 said:

CamrynnsMommy said:

Hedgessm said:

CamrynnsMommy said:

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed.
I totally agree and DD2 has never been in daycare for that reason exactly. DD1 had to have a waiver signed by a medical professional to start school.
I believe it is required at least where we are unless there's a legit medical reason. It's seems like that should be the norm everywhere. I mean if I can't get my cats nails clipped at pet smart without proving he's gotten a rabbies shot then why can you send your potentially dangerous child
to school?

It's required here too. Thankfully! We had to go through a lot of hoops to prove that we weren't just trying to get out of it, but had we claimed we didn't vaccinate due to religious reasons it would've been NBD.
Same here but the ppl that don't claim it's for religious reasons and I don't think anyone is really checking that. So pretty much anyone can do it so there kid can attend public school and not be vaxed. I know this because I have several friends that are doing it. Makes me SOOOOO mad.

I'm not sure how you "prove" a religious reason but there should be some sort of discussion that takes place that's shows that person isn't just full of crap or using the easiest excuse they can find

jjh471 · January 2014

Hedgessm said:

jjh471 said:

CamrynnsMommy said:

Hedgessm said:

CamrynnsMommy said:

ABColeslaw said:
My UO is that you shouldn't be allowed to send your child to daycare or school if they are unvaxed.
I totally agree and DD2 has never been in daycare for that reason exactly. DD1 had to have a waiver signed by a medical professional to start school.
I believe it is required at least where we are unless there's a legit medical reason. It's seems like that should be the norm everywhere. I mean if I can't get my cats nails clipped at pet smart without proving he's gotten a rabbies shot then why can you send your potentially dangerous child
to school?

It's required here too. Thankfully! We had to go through a lot of hoops to prove that we weren't just trying to get out of it, but had we claimed we didn't vaccinate due to religious reasons it would've been NBD.
Same here but the ppl that don't claim it's for religious reasons and I don't think anyone is really checking that. So pretty much anyone can do it so there kid can attend public school and not be vaxed. I know this because I have several friends that are doing it. Makes me SOOOOO mad.
I'm not sure how you "prove" a religious reason but there should be some sort of discussion that takes place that's shows that person isn't just full of crap or using the easiest excuse they can find

Agreed. Not sure what can be done but something should...

IBackBevo · January 2014

Yeah, when YOU don't vax your kid, mine gets Rubella!!!! That is what f'in happens!

And thank God my parents vaccinated me because if they had not, I probably would have gotten it, too, and since I am pregnant this baby would likely be disabled. Look up what happens to babies when their Mothers get Rubella in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy. It is not pretty. It is horrible. That alone should convince every Mother out there to vaccinate.

About 15-20 percent of people who get things like rubella and measles are either vaccinated or partially vaccinated. Most kids are only partially vaccinated for measles, mumps and rubella until 4. And if they are under 1, not vaccinated at all.

I have no patience for people who don't vaccinate unless their kids are immuno compromised. They are not only putting themselves in harm's way, but everyone else, too.

awisern · January 2014

https://www.registerguard.com/rg/news/local/30952037-75/ronan-flu-child-burgess-illness.html.csp

5 year old Oregon boy dies from H1N1 - just a few days ago.

IBackBevo · January 2014

jjh471 said:

kat8805 said:
I guess I'm a bit in between. I refuse the flu vaccine, and find the chicken pox vaccine a bit ridiculous, but any of the major, life threatening, life altering diseases, sign us up.
Chicken pox I probably wouldn't do but I've had the flu and ended up in the hospital so anything I can do to not get it I'll do. Even if it's just a slightly lowered chance! But chicken pox doesn't seem like a big deal....

Yeah, but have you had shingles? Trust me, it is not NBD! My stepdad has had them and they are horrible. You have no idea.

My DH says that is the main reason for giving it.

Edit: add

jjh471 · January 2014

IBackBevo said:

jjh471 said:

kat8805 said:
I guess I'm a bit in between. I refuse the flu vaccine, and find the chicken pox vaccine a bit ridiculous, but any of the major, life threatening, life altering diseases, sign us up.
Chicken pox I probably wouldn't do but I've had the flu and ended up in the hospital so anything I can do to not get it I'll do. Even if it's just a slightly lowered chance! But chicken pox doesn't seem like a big deal....
Yeah, but have you had shingles? Trust me, it is not NBD! My stepdad has had them and they are horrible. You have no idea.

My DH says that is the main reason for giving it.

Edit: add

You can get shingles even if you have had the chicken pox or been vaxed. My husband has had shingles twice because he works in a prison and gets exposed a lot. So I do have an idea. My dh never had the cp he only had the vax and a booster and he still got it. I guess your damned if you do your damned if you don't.

IBackBevo · January 2014

jjh471 said:

IBackBevo said:

jjh471 said:

kat8805 said:
I guess I'm a bit in between. I refuse the flu vaccine, and find the chicken pox vaccine a bit ridiculous, but any of the major, life threatening, life altering diseases, sign us up.
Chicken pox I probably wouldn't do but I've had the flu and ended up in the hospital so anything I can do to not get it I'll do. Even if it's just a slightly lowered chance! But chicken pox doesn't seem like a big deal....
Yeah, but have you had shingles? Trust me, it is not NBD! My stepdad has had them and they are horrible. You have no idea.

My DH says that is the main reason for giving it.

Edit: add
You can get shingles even if you have had the chicken pox or been vaxed. My husband has had shingles twice because he works in a prison and gets exposed a lot. So I do have an idea. My dh never had the cp he only had the vax and a booster and he still got it. I guess your damned if you do your damned if you don't.

You are a lot less likely to get them with the vaccine. It is still better to get the vaccine.

Edit: I asked my DH about this (he is an MD) and he said this probably means your DH had chicken pox at some point in time. If it was from the vaccine, it was probably not as bad as it otherwise would have been. I think christinaruth74 touched on this above.

jjh471 · January 2014

IBackBevo said:

jjh471 said:

IBackBevo said:

jjh471 said:

kat8805 said:
I guess I'm a bit in between. I refuse the flu vaccine, and find the chicken pox vaccine a bit ridiculous, but any of the major, life threatening, life altering diseases, sign us up.
Chicken pox I probably wouldn't do but I've had the flu and ended up in the hospital so anything I can do to not get it I'll do. Even if it's just a slightly lowered chance! But chicken pox doesn't seem like a big deal....
Yeah, but have you had shingles? Trust me, it is not NBD! My stepdad has had them and they are horrible. You have no idea.

My DH says that is the main reason for giving it.

Edit: add
You can get shingles even if you have had the chicken pox or been vaxed. My husband has had shingles twice because he works in a prison and gets exposed a lot. So I do have an idea. My dh never had the cp he only had the vax and a booster and he still got it. I guess your damned if you do your damned if you don't.
You are a lot less likely to get them with the vaccine. It is still better to get the vaccine.

Good to know. My kid(s) will probably have to get it since DH is exposed to a lot of crap through his job. And I mean a lot.

mirdamae03 · January 2014

awisern said:
https://www.registerguard.com/rg/news/local/30952037-75/ronan-flu-child-burgess-illness.html.csp

5 year old Oregon boy dies from H1N1 - just a few days ago.

Yes, it's gotten bad in Texas too. At least 7 deaths but probably more (including my Aunt)

Get the flu shot peeps!

mrspopsicle · January 2014

@kitchencolors I also had h1n1 that year it hit before they could develop the vaccine for it. It was the most miserable I've ever felt in my life. Nothing brought my fever (103-104) down for more than a couple hours. The body aches and chills were awful. It lasted a full 10 days. I surely would have been hospitalized had I been pregnant. I can't even imagine.

Shell+Bell · January 2014

mirdamae03 said:

awisern said:
https://www.registerguard.com/rg/news/local/30952037-75/ronan-flu-child-burgess-illness.html.csp

5 year old Oregon boy dies from H1N1 - just a few days ago.
Yes, it's gotten bad in Texas too. At least 7 deaths but probably more (including my Aunt)

Get the flu shot peeps!

So sorry about the loss of your aunt

mirdamae03 · January 2014

Shell+Bell said:

mirdamae03 said:

awisern said:
https://www.registerguard.com/rg/news/local/30952037-75/ronan-flu-child-burgess-illness.html.csp

5 year old Oregon boy dies from H1N1 - just a few days ago.
Yes, it's gotten bad in Texas too. At least 7 deaths but probably more (including my Aunt)

Get the flu shot peeps!

So sorry about the loss of your aunt

Thank you. It's been a rough couple of weeks with her in the hospital.

britab · January 2014

I don't get the "I had it and survived" defense for not vaccinating. The people that died from it aren't blogging or online.

Mamazon2014 · January 2014

I was born with an inherited immune deficiency that has made getting sick a frequent occurance in life even with immunizations.

When I am sick, it usually lasts twice as long, if not more, and half the time I end up having to go to the ER because a cold always seems to move into my lungs.

You can guarantee that my LO will be immunized as there is a possibility that they can inherit my weak immune system. We are doing the modified schedule when the time comes, but it's due to DH having reactions with his immunizations. we will get flu shots, though we're not 100% on the chicken pox vacc.

honey740 · January 2014

savannah_girl said:

I think there is a huge difference between the Flu and lets say Polio.

That being said, my family get the Flu shot for a few reasons 1: I work in a trauma hospital in the Recovery. I get exposed to many sick people. 2: My DD is 3 and goes to daycare... those kids are breeding grounds for the PLAGUE. 3: My DH is a full time student at a University... again sick 18 years that live in dorms rooms.. nasty. 4: my mom .is immuno-compromised... from Polio. Enough said.

My mom had polio too when she was about 2 or 3. She now has post polio syndrome similar to MS where her muscles are deteriorating and she hurts constantly and will likely be in a wheelchair soon. These diseases have been eradicated in the US. Selfish non-Vaxers are compromising that. People who legitimately cannot get vaccines and rely on herd immunity are being failed.

honey740 · January 2014

It's not too late to get the flu vax, especially since it covers h1n1, that's a no brainer. Sorry for your loss @mirdamae03 And shingles suck, I had them about 8 years ago on my face, not fun.

mirdamae03 · January 2014

honey740 said:

savannah_girl said:

I think there is a huge difference between the Flu and lets say Polio.

That being said, my family get the Flu shot for a few reasons 1: I work in a trauma hospital in the Recovery. I get exposed to many sick people. 2: My DD is 3 and goes to daycare... those kids are breeding grounds for the PLAGUE. 3: My DH is a full time student at a University... again sick 18 years that live in dorms rooms.. nasty. 4: my mom .is immuno-compromised... from Polio. Enough said.

My mom had polio too when she was about 2 or 3. She now has post polio syndrome similar to MS where her muscles are deteriorating and she hurts constantly and will likely be in a wheelchair soon. These diseases have been eradicated in the US. Selfish non-Vaxers are compromising that. People who legitimately cannot get vaccines and rely on herd immunity are being failed.

My BFF's dad has this too. It's hard to watch people you love going through this type of thing.

ETA: fixed formatting

rainydayluck · January 2014

honey740 said:

savannah_girl said:

I think there is a huge difference between the Flu and lets say Polio.

That being said, my family get the Flu shot for a few reasons 1: I work in a trauma hospital in the Recovery. I get exposed to many sick people. 2: My DD is 3 and goes to daycare... those kids are breeding grounds for the PLAGUE. 3: My DH is a full time student at a University... again sick 18 years that live in dorms rooms.. nasty. 4: my mom .is immuno-compromised... from Polio. Enough said.

My mom had polio too when she was about 2 or 3. She now has post polio syndrome similar to MS where her muscles are deteriorating and she hurts constantly and will likely be in a wheelchair soon. These diseases have been eradicated in the US. Selfish non-Vaxers are compromising that. People who legitimately cannot get vaccines and rely on herd immunity are being failed.

In Siria, polio is having a big resurgence. Before the war, kids were regularly vaccinated and with all the chaos since, kids are not getting vaccinated. I can't imagine how horrible it must be to want to give you kid vaccines and not being able to.

Tkhixen · January 2014

I wish there was a vaccine for stupid!

awc1986 · January 2014

Did anyone follow the MMR vaccine scandal? How one dr said there was chance it could cause autism? It's now been shown that there is no link between the vaccine and autism, so the dr has been struck off. We're now struggling to cope with the amount of people trying to get their children vaccinated because a whole generation missed out due to fearmongering and misinformation. If you get your medical info from one, untrustworthy source, or are doing something because its the fashion, then you shouldn't be allowed to make important decisions about your child's health.

Lild09 · January 2014

I'm kinda loving all you may mamas. So glad that I'm not the only one on the vaccine wagon, feels like so many ppl have the most ridiculous ideas of what vaccination does and what immunity does. My DH and I are both RNs so we know the importance as well as the blessing we have in our first world country to protect ourselves and our children plus those around us from life threatening virus that were not uncommon just a mere 50 years ago.

Side note: I have a friend who thought it was crazy I was getting the flu shot while pregnant. Sure I'm not only pregnant so that's high risk of complications but I'm a nurse, I work in ppls homes and long term care...super crazy idea getting vaccinated lol

Add to that the new influenza outbreak that's very high and similar to h1n1 and is specifically affecting young adults this season...yup I'm sure glad I'm vaccinated on that one

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