I might *actually* have my own, original UO today (but whether or not it's a UO on this BMB I'm unsure, but it's blowing up my FB)
I think the "my childhood was like" and "it makes me a better person because I was brought up X way" list postings are fucking annoying. They make zero sense and generally the basis for comparison is entirely outlandish.
Why-- the people posting about kids "nowadays" also post about how their childhood was and how they were treated, are the ones RAISING THE KIDS THEY BASH! It drives me bonkers. I have restrained, but I desperately want to yell from the rooftops that their kids could be out playing with their neighbors and not glued to video game screens, have respect for their elders and do chores around the house if THEY TAUGHT THEM HOW TO DO THAT. I just love parents who bitch about how their kid is so entitled and how they were never like that...welp, you're the one who taught them that behavior so congratufuckinglations it's your own fault.
wifetomrb101 said: This LO will be visiting the chiro at about 3 weeks old. When they're born a lot of their bones will be put out of place. Once they've seen the chiro once and had them adjusted babies are usually fine to go once every 3ish months.
Following this logic, a baby would never be able to recover from birth without a chiropractor. That is absolute nonsense.
Newborns' joints are made to be squished up in your womb. Science knew what it was doing when it made them like that. It's not hurting them and they don't need adjustments after they are born.
My UO: I do not care either way how my toilet paper hangs. I pop on a new roll and if it's over-hanging, that's fine, and if it's under that's fine too!
Oh hell no! I've fixed it at friends' houses.
ETA chiropractor talk is making me stabby. I feel like I have to sometimes either scare or blow smoke up people's asses to convince them to take antibiotics completely and as directed. How do they convince people to do baby adjustments and that they cure gas?
My UO: I do not care either way how my toilet paper hangs. I pop on a new roll and if it's over-hanging, that's fine, and if it's under that's fine too!
Oh hell no! I've fixed it at friends' houses.
ETA chiropractor talk is making me stabby. I feel like I have to sometimes either scare or blow smoke up people's asses to convince them to take antibiotics completely and as directed. How do they convince people to do baby adjustments and that they cure gas?
HA! I have had friends "fix" it at my house too. Doesn't bother me because I don't care which way it hangs...it's so liberating to feel that way!
And we are soooo on the same page--my kooky chiro friend also advised another friend of ours who was complaining about her baby's latest ear infection on FB to just dribble garlic oil or something into his ears and take him to be adjusted and that should clear it right up. I wasn't even pregnant at the time let alone a mother so I stayed out of it but I wanted to all caps it and be like 'PLS TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE DOCTOR INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO THIS CRAZY PERSON OMG'.
TWO Babies in 2014! DS #1 Born 01/07/2014, DS #2 Born 12/17/2014
*snip* ETA chiropractor talk is making me stabby. I feel like I have to sometimes either scare or blow smoke up people's asses to convince them to take antibiotics completely and as directed. How do they convince people to do baby adjustments and that they cure gas?
Um YES. People think all pharmaceuticals are evil but will suckle at the teet of Oz and homeopathy, which often have little proven scientific basis and are equally expensive. WTF people? Keep listening to the TV, as it is so profoundly educating. And chiros HATE pharmacy based treatments - they do often take an anti-vax, anti-drug stance in my personal experience. It's extremely frustrating!
wifetomrb101 said: This LO will be visiting the chiro at about 3 weeks old. When they're born a lot of their bones will be put out of place. Once they've seen the chiro once and had them adjusted babies are usually fine to go once every 3ish months.
Following this logic, a baby would never be able to recover from birth without a chiropractor. That is absolute nonsense.
Good point, but I know of 2 babies of friends who weren't sleeping good at night around 2ish months, were fussy and gassy and after taking them to the chiro only once the babies were sleeping better. Some babies may be fine after birth, others not.
Someone please tell me that this is some sort of a sick joke.
Chiro made sleeping better, and got rid of gas and fussiness? Give me a flucking break. That is the MOST absurd thing I have ever heard. There are other reasons, like maybe a BFing mother ate something spicey that day and gave the baby gas? Maybe they took a bottle too quickly? Maybe they don't sleep because they're just down right hungry and growing like a bad weed??
I have officially lumped the infant chiro fanatics in with the anti-vaxxers. All cut from the same crazy cloth!
Massages are always painful for me. I I have back problems from three spinal surgeries including a spinal fusion. I have a torn ACL, a spinal cord cyst, and a dislocating hip.
I never get to relax during the massage because of all the kinks they try to work out. Point being, I don't really like massages. Now that is an UO.
Ack! @megs12914 while I totally respect why you don't like massages, that DOES sound like blasphemy to me! I would gladly go for one every day if I could!!!
TTC #1 since July 2010
July 2011: Referred to RE, started Letrozole
August 2011: BFP #1! M/C @ 5wks
September 2011 - September 2012: test, after test, after test... S/A, HCG, B/W... Diagnosis: unexplained infertility. Letrozole, Metformin... nothing.
September 2012: Diagnosed gluten intolerance; now living strict GF diet.
November 2012: BFP #2! MM/C @ 6wks (discovered at 8wks). 2 rounds of Misoprostal - nothing. D&C December 2012.
May 2013: BFP #3! Hoping this one sticks! 4x prometrium/day EDD: 01/25/14
06/03/13: 1st u/s We have a heartbeat! Team green!
01/24/14: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
08/05/14: Surprise BFP #4! (Unmedicated, no pp period, EDD unknown)
08/15/14: 1 u/s We have a heartbeat! Measured 6wks 2 days. EDD 04/08/15. Team green!
04/08/15: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
03/29/16: BFP #5! (Unmedicated, 1 cycle TTC) EDD: 11/09/16
My UO: I do not care either way how my toilet paper hangs. I pop on a new roll and if it's over-hanging, that's fine, and if it's under that's fine too!
I totally don't care either! As long as the TP roll isn't empty, I am happy!
July 2015 Jan Siggy Challenge: Snow Fails/Funnies
BFP #5 11/15/14, Team Green EDD 7/22/15
BFP #4 4/30/13, baby girl born med-free Jan. 2014
BFP #3 9/24/12, Missed m/c at 9w1d (baby measured 8w5d)
BFP #2 9/23/10, healthy baby girl born med-free June 2011
BFP #1 5/21/10, Missed m/c at 10w4d (baby measured 8wks), D&C 6/29/10 "Life is like a camera, just focus on what's important and capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot."
My UO is that I think it's ridiculous for people to plan an induction just to get a certain doctor to deliver the baby. As long as a competent OB is at the end of my bed to catch the baby and check them out after birth, I could care less who does it!
I could understand if mother/baby were high-risk/had a pre-existing condition. I could see wanting a specific doctor because they know your case better and maybe specialize in treating whatever it is.
But for a standard delivery, I agree! When I had DD#1, I didn't even really notice my doctor wasn't there when I started pushing. Just a nurse was there, so someone was there to catch her. Otherwise, I didn't care at all who it was - I just wanted baby out!
July 2015 Jan Siggy Challenge: Snow Fails/Funnies
BFP #5 11/15/14, Team Green EDD 7/22/15
BFP #4 4/30/13, baby girl born med-free Jan. 2014
BFP #3 9/24/12, Missed m/c at 9w1d (baby measured 8w5d)
BFP #2 9/23/10, healthy baby girl born med-free June 2011
BFP #1 5/21/10, Missed m/c at 10w4d (baby measured 8wks), D&C 6/29/10 "Life is like a camera, just focus on what's important and capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot."
My uo is that I like that I have a birth plan. It makes me feel comfortable that I've at least thought through my ideal situation and how I would prefer things be handled if it was under my control. It generally makes me feel more knowledgeable and less afraid of the whole situation.
In addition, the nurses in the birthing center at my hospital require it for this exact reason.
Agree. If I hadn't written out a birth plan for DD, I wouldn't have known to research half of the interventions that I was offered. It's fine that my plan wasn't followed, but I certainly felt better about each decision I made with all of the reading I had done.
My UO: I do not care either way how my toilet paper hangs. I pop on a new roll and if it's over-hanging, that's fine, and if it's under that's fine too!
Oh hell no! I've fixed it at friends' houses.
ETA chiropractor talk is making me stabby. I feel like I have to sometimes either scare or blow smoke up people's asses to convince them to take antibiotics completely and as directed. How do they convince people to do baby adjustments and that they cure gas?
TTC #1 since July 2010
July 2011: Referred to RE, started Letrozole
August 2011: BFP #1! M/C @ 5wks
September 2011 - September 2012: test, after test, after test... S/A, HCG, B/W... Diagnosis: unexplained infertility. Letrozole, Metformin... nothing.
September 2012: Diagnosed gluten intolerance; now living strict GF diet.
November 2012: BFP #2! MM/C @ 6wks (discovered at 8wks). 2 rounds of Misoprostal - nothing. D&C December 2012.
May 2013: BFP #3! Hoping this one sticks! 4x prometrium/day EDD: 01/25/14
06/03/13: 1st u/s We have a heartbeat! Team green!
01/24/14: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
08/05/14: Surprise BFP #4! (Unmedicated, no pp period, EDD unknown)
08/15/14: 1 u/s We have a heartbeat! Measured 6wks 2 days. EDD 04/08/15. Team green!
04/08/15: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
03/29/16: BFP #5! (Unmedicated, 1 cycle TTC) EDD: 11/09/16
@Ashleywiz that's exactly the situation he was referring too. We have a "friend" who takes their 5 year old to visit a chiropractor to work on her immune system. And they don't vaccinate. Those are the people that drive me crazy
wifetomrb101 said: This LO will be visiting the chiro at about 3 weeks old. When they're born a lot of their bones will be put out of place. Once they've seen the chiro once and had them adjusted babies are usually fine to go once every 3ish months.
Following this logic, a baby would never be able to recover from birth without a chiropractor. That is absolute nonsense.
Good point, but I know of 2 babies of friends who weren't sleeping good at night around 2ish months, were fussy and gassy and after taking them to the chiro only once the babies were sleeping better. Some babies may be fine after birth, others not.
Omg how did babies ever make it before chiropractors ever existed?!
@marbee1214 I plan to talk to the midwife I see on Monday about what we would do if she flips into breech. They never discussed it at fb or the classes. I'm guessing based on what she said to you they might transfer, but I wouldn't have thought to ask if it wasn't for your story.
@Ashleywiz that's exactly the situation he was referring too. We have a "friend" who takes their 5 year old to visit a chiropractor to work on her immune system. And they don't vaccinate. Those are the people that drive me crazy
Major eyeroll to that nonsense. My aunt has discovered some other weirdo nutsy alternative "medicine" recently that she blasts all over FB - some kind of gemstone healing or some whackadoo-ness. Thank goodness all her boys already have their vaccines (and go to public school so they aren't allowed to NOT have their shots) otherwise I fear what these newfangled "discoveries" would mean for them.
My uo is that I like that I have a birth plan. It makes me feel comfortable that I've at least thought through my ideal situation and how I would prefer things be handled if it was under my control. It generally makes me feel more knowledgeable and less afraid of the whole situation.
In addition, the nurses in the birthing center at my hospital require it for this exact reason.
@silentsiren11 I agree with you. I like having a birth plan because it made me research all of the available options. I didn't realize I'd have to have a stance on things like an episiotomy. I will say that I made one of those "free birth plans" and it ended up being around 15 pages, which is completely ridiculous. I ended up making my own modeled after one I found on Pinterest that was a series of 6 pictures with the overall statements I want. It turns out that 2 of the 6 are pretty standard anyway (EBF and immediate skin-to-skin) but my birth plan is one page.
My UO is NBR. I can't stand it when people refer to their SO as 'my old lady.' All of SO's guy friends do this and it drives me up a wall. Is it that hard to refer to your SO by their name?
Ok, I retreat with my hands up I guess I'm one of those wackadoos...but hanging a newborn by their ankles?! OMG - that is not a chiro, neither is one who figures they can fix the immune system....I go to get my joints put back where they belong once in a while. I do use a dr. for medicine, and I will go to the pharmacy and get my prescriptions filled, just not for something like a headache that nothing fixes but a visit to the chiro.
I didn't write up a birth plan with DD and I probably won't with this LO either, but I've made it clear to DH that if I decide I want to push in a squatting position rather then on my back, he is supposed to agree that it's a good idea and he also knows this time I'd like baby right to my chest. They took DD and cleaned her off, weighed her and measured her first and this time (barring anything like baby needing oxygen) I'd like baby right in my arms, not wait 10 minutes to get to meet him/her.
My UO is NBR. I can't stand it when people refer to their SO as 'my old lady.' All of SO's guy friends do this and it drives me up a wall. Is it that hard to refer to your SO by their name?
I have never ever heard this! Is it an American thing? Or a regional thing? If DH tried to call me that...I don't know what I'd do, but it wouldn't be pleasant.
Okay, just to play devil's advocate here but how is going to a chiropractor any different than taking medicine for, let's just say, a cold? They both just treat the symptoms; yet I'm sure many of us will happily pick up medicine to treat our symptoms when we are sick.
I know going to a chiropractor won't cure me but I feel amazing having everything readjusted and when I leave I will happily enjoy the next few weeks or months of relief before going again. Just as I know medicine won't cure my illness, but it will help me manage the symptoms until it goes away on its own.
As adults we have bad habits that can make things out of alignment (i.e. high heels, poor posture) and this service is appropriate to provide relief. I definitely side-eye taking a baby to a chiropractor though.
@silentsiren11 one of the nurses with me during my c/s usually works in Family Beginnings where you are delivering and she was so thrown off by my breech baby and how everything progressed because she's not used to working the regular L&D side! Kinda made me all nervous too because she kept saying how she never does this over in FB...
When I had DS1, I had a male nurse that was taking a shift on L&D after DS1 was born. The nurse was normally in NICU caring for the babies. I got a weird vibe from him, and chatted a little bit. Basically, he was in his 50's, a bachelor, and almost never on L&D. So he didn't really do so well in taking care of me, compared to the other nurses. I didn't feel that he could comprehend what a woman goes through during childbirth, let alone the bad I had just gone through. (I couldn't even walk out the door, I had to use a wheelchair, which was against hospital policy.)
I also had a new nurse, with DS2, that had never had anything but a textbook pregnancy. DS2 decided to have some fun with her, so she said things that made me a bit scared. For instance, when I first got there, she went to do a cervical check and said she couldn't find his head. So she got the OB, who checked internally, then got a u/s machine. Later, after they broke my water, the same nurse went to check how dilated I was, and said "Um, I'm going to go get the doctor, I don't know what that was.." with a worried look on her face. Turns out he had simply put his hand on his head.
Okay, just to play devil's advocate here but how is going to a chiropractor any different than taking medicine for, let's just say, a cold? They both just treat the symptoms; yet I'm sure many of us will happily pick up medicine to treat our symptoms when we are sick.
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@xanadu94 -- My personal belief is that chiropractic care causes problems, whereas cold medicine does not. That's where there is a difference.
Not sure how accurate this is but I've heard chiropractic adjustments compared to when you crack your knuckles ... You start doing it and next thing you know you need to do it more and more. So it's similar with your whole body when you get "adjusted" you end up just needing to do so more and more. Can't remember where I heard that but thought i would share fwiw.
@silentsiren11 one of the nurses with me during my c/s usually works in Family Beginnings where you are delivering and she was so thrown off by my breech baby and how everything progressed because she's not used to working the regular L&D side! Kinda made me all nervous too because she kept saying how she never does this over in FB...
@MarBee1214 I didn't know you ladies were "local!" I'm in Cinci but had DD at MVH. I was planning on using FB but had to go to L&D to be induced. I really miss my OB up there. He was fantastic. Love your new siggy pic also!
I caved and bought peepee teepees for the sprinkling wee wee. A product I blatantly mocked just a month ago.
BEST THING EVARRRR
They didn't work for DS. No one believed me that my NB child was too big for them. He was... Really. But then again the dr and nurses were impressed with how big down there he was already at 20 week ultrasound...
I have no UO tonight. Lame as always. Hm. Maybe I don't think its that big of a deal to sleep in a bra? Ugh. Why try?
My UO is NBR. I can't stand it when people refer to their SO as 'my old lady.' All of SO's guy friends do this and it drives me up a wall. Is it that hard to refer to your SO by their name?
MH refers to me as his old lady and it drives me nuts.
Okay, just to play devil's advocate here but how is going to a chiropractor any different than taking medicine for, let's just say, a cold? They both just treat the symptoms; yet I'm sure many of us will happily pick up medicine to treat our symptoms when we are sick.
*snip*
@xanadu94 -- My personal belief is that chiropractic care causes problems, whereas cold medicine does not. That's where there is a difference.
Re: UO
I think the "my childhood was like" and "it makes me a better person because I was brought up X way" list postings are fucking annoying. They make zero sense and generally the basis for comparison is entirely outlandish.
Why-- the people posting about kids "nowadays" also post about how their childhood was and how they were treated, are the ones RAISING THE KIDS THEY BASH! It drives me bonkers. I have restrained, but I desperately want to yell from the rooftops that their kids could be out playing with their neighbors and not glued to video game screens, have respect for their elders and do chores around the house if THEY TAUGHT THEM HOW TO DO THAT. I just love parents who bitch about how their kid is so entitled and how they were never like that...welp, you're the one who taught them that behavior so congratufuckinglations it's your own fault.
Bump Unofficial Glossary
ETA chiropractor talk is making me stabby. I feel like I have to sometimes either scare or blow smoke up people's asses to convince them to take antibiotics completely and as directed. How do they convince people to do baby adjustments and that they cure gas?
My cat can read EKGs, can your human do that?
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And we are soooo on the same page--my kooky chiro friend also advised another friend of ours who was complaining about her baby's latest ear infection on FB to just dribble garlic oil or something into his ears and take him to be adjusted and that should clear it right up. I wasn't even pregnant at the time let alone a mother so I stayed out of it but I wanted to all caps it and be like 'PLS TAKE YOUR BABY TO THE DOCTOR INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO THIS CRAZY PERSON OMG'.
DS #1 Born 01/07/2014, DS #2 Born 12/17/2014
Um YES. People think all pharmaceuticals are evil but will suckle at the teet of Oz and homeopathy, which often have little proven scientific basis and are equally expensive. WTF people? Keep listening to the TV, as it is so profoundly educating. And chiros HATE pharmacy based treatments - they do often take an anti-vax, anti-drug stance in my personal experience. It's extremely frustrating!
Due Date 11/10/16
Ack! @megs12914 while I totally respect why you don't like massages, that DOES sound like blasphemy to me! I would gladly go for one every day if I could!!!
TTC #1 since July 2010
July 2011: Referred to RE, started Letrozole
August 2011: BFP #1! M/C @ 5wks
September 2011 - September 2012: test, after test, after test... S/A, HCG, B/W... Diagnosis: unexplained infertility. Letrozole, Metformin... nothing.
September 2012: Diagnosed gluten intolerance; now living strict GF diet.
November 2012: BFP #2! MM/C @ 6wks (discovered at 8wks). 2 rounds of Misoprostal - nothing. D&C December 2012.
May 2013: BFP #3! Hoping this one sticks! 4x prometrium/day EDD: 01/25/14
06/03/13: 1st u/s We have a heartbeat! Team green!
01/24/14: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
08/05/14: Surprise BFP #4! (Unmedicated, no pp period, EDD unknown)
08/15/14: 1 u/s We have a heartbeat! Measured 6wks 2 days. EDD 04/08/15. Team green!
04/08/15: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
03/29/16: BFP #5! (Unmedicated, 1 cycle TTC) EDD: 11/09/16
I totally don't care either! As long as the TP roll isn't empty, I am happy!
BFP #5 11/15/14, Team Green EDD 7/22/15
BFP #4 4/30/13, baby girl born med-free Jan. 2014
BFP #3 9/24/12, Missed m/c at 9w1d (baby measured 8w5d)
BFP #2 9/23/10, healthy baby girl born med-free June 2011
BFP #1 5/21/10, Missed m/c at 10w4d (baby measured 8wks), D&C 6/29/10
"Life is like a camera, just focus on what's important and capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot."
But for a standard delivery, I agree! When I had DD#1, I didn't even really notice my doctor wasn't there when I started pushing. Just a nurse was there, so someone was there to catch her. Otherwise, I didn't care at all who it was - I just wanted baby out!
BFP #5 11/15/14, Team Green EDD 7/22/15
BFP #4 4/30/13, baby girl born med-free Jan. 2014
BFP #3 9/24/12, Missed m/c at 9w1d (baby measured 8w5d)
BFP #2 9/23/10, healthy baby girl born med-free June 2011
BFP #1 5/21/10, Missed m/c at 10w4d (baby measured 8wks), D&C 6/29/10
"Life is like a camera, just focus on what's important and capture the good times, develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, just take another shot."
My cat can read EKGs, can your human do that?
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@MindyBadger1 I'm glad I'm not the only crazy one!
ETA fix tags, because I can't read...
TTC #1 since July 2010
July 2011: Referred to RE, started Letrozole
August 2011: BFP #1! M/C @ 5wks
September 2011 - September 2012: test, after test, after test... S/A, HCG, B/W... Diagnosis: unexplained infertility. Letrozole, Metformin... nothing.
September 2012: Diagnosed gluten intolerance; now living strict GF diet.
November 2012: BFP #2! MM/C @ 6wks (discovered at 8wks). 2 rounds of Misoprostal - nothing. D&C December 2012.
May 2013: BFP #3! Hoping this one sticks! 4x prometrium/day EDD: 01/25/14
06/03/13: 1st u/s We have a heartbeat! Team green!
01/24/14: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
08/05/14: Surprise BFP #4! (Unmedicated, no pp period, EDD unknown)
08/15/14: 1 u/s We have a heartbeat! Measured 6wks 2 days. EDD 04/08/15. Team green!
04/08/15: Team green turned team pink. Baby girl was born!
03/29/16: BFP #5! (Unmedicated, 1 cycle TTC) EDD: 11/09/16
I can't wait to meet you Neva Margaret Rebecca
Omg how did babies ever make it before chiropractors ever existed?!
Emma Kate - born 10.16.03 @ 29 weeks, weighed 1lb 13oz and 13.5" long.
TTC #3
I know going to a chiropractor won't cure me but I feel amazing having everything readjusted and when I leave I will happily enjoy the next few weeks or months of relief before going again. Just as I know medicine won't cure my illness, but it will help me manage the symptoms until it goes away on its own.
As adults we have bad habits that can make things out of alignment (i.e. high heels, poor posture) and this service is appropriate to provide relief. I definitely side-eye taking a baby to a chiropractor though.
I also had a new nurse, with DS2, that had never had anything but a textbook pregnancy. DS2 decided to have some fun with her, so she said things that made me a bit scared. For instance, when I first got there, she went to do a cervical check and said she couldn't find his head. So she got the OB, who checked internally, then got a u/s machine. Later, after they broke my water, the same nurse went to check how dilated I was, and said "Um, I'm going to go get the doctor, I don't know what that was.." with a worried look on her face. Turns out he had simply put his hand on his head.
DS1 born 11/3/06 * DS2 born 3/29/08 * DD born 3/15/11
Scarlett Mae born 1/14/14 Our family is now complete!
I have no UO tonight. Lame as always. Hm. Maybe I don't think its that big of a deal to sleep in a bra? Ugh. Why try?