January 2014 Moms

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  • I guess my UO is that I love my chrio! And so does DS. My chiropractor doesn't charge for babies, and every time I get an adjustment, he does DS.

     

    I love mine as well.  I take DS with me when I go and he gets adusted as well.  My chiro operates differently than most though - only does straight adjustments of any sublaxations and has no set fees.  You dont need appointments - walk in, get adjusted and pay what you can afford.  They would rather see you as often as you feel you need to come than by what insurance will pay for.  The guy who started the practice is actually nationally recognized and really is amazing but I get that it is not for everyone.  As far as chiro curing cancer - that person is just a whackadoodle. 




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  • benjaminsmommy16 said:
    What exactly is ridiculous about it? Most babies do have something out of whack after birth and adjustments help with that.
    Let's back up here. My personal opinion is that chiropractors are quacks. That is just how I feel about it. You certainly can have a different opinion than I have. We disagree on a lot of things.
    I understand that. I was just curious why you felt that way and didn't see the harm in asking you to explain your oppinion.
    I think that they treat symptoms rather than addressing the problem in a solution-based method. I think that physical therapy is a more responsible and effective way of treating problems. Also, the adjustments that a lot of people have tend to require maintenance -- otherwise, they feel worse than when they started. This is what happened to my husband. He decided to try chiropractic care for chronic back pain. I was very willing to accept it if it would help him, but he now feels like the chiropractor caused new problems and didn't actually "fix" anything. Basically, his anecdotal experience confirmed what I thought. All of his relief was temporary.

    Bottom line: I am a big believer in treating problems at their source rather than just treating symptoms.
    Just to jump foot first into this debate:  I work at a university and we have a well-respected chiropractor who teaches at the chiropractor school and is cross appointed faculty at our school and he does research into chronic pain.  He told me that it is a waste of time to use chiropractors for chronic conditions.  They should only ever see a patient in an acute phase.
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  • @megs12914 -- what defines a connection though, really? If someone grew up watching a certain team with their grandfather or father, wouldn't that be just as much of a connection? I don't know, it just seems like a silly thing to judge -- especially if you don't know someone's whole story.

    On the other hand, I question when a woman suddenly becomes a fan of a specific team just because her husband is. For some reason, I find that very strange. I guess that makes me a little bit a of a hypocrite, haha.
  • benjaminsmommy16 said:
    See, this is why I like chiropractic. (And of course, physical therapy) I have been seriously hurt from figureskating and dancing and the chiropractor I saw really helped me. I feel like it fixed the problem. But, my body and chiropractor are different than your DH's... So I guess we just have to do what works for us.
    But if your problems are fixed, why do you still go?
  • @peanutmuse that's a good point. I think that is a connection. I am from Maryland and am a Redskins fan because I grew up watching them with my mom.

    I just don't get picking a random team because they win a lot and then being that crazy fan who revolves their lives around them. It is a big thing here in Alabama. People get crazy about sports here.
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  • twobluelines said:

    Just to jump foot first into this debate:  I work at a university and we have a well-respected chiropractor who teaches at the chiropractor school and is cross appointed faculty at our school and he does research into chronic pain.  He told me that it is a waste of time to use chiropractors for chronic conditions.  They should only ever see a patient in an acute phase.
    @twobluelines, that is an interesting twist, and I can understand and even respect that school of thought. I guess it's the people who go every week or two (or more) that I just don't really understand. If someone has to go that much, what good can it really be doing?
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  • megs12914 said:
    I just don't get picking a random team because they win a lot and then being that crazy fan who revolves their lives around them. It is a big thing here in Alabama. People get crazy about sports here.
    @megs12914, My youngest sister goes to Vanderbilt and the girls wear dresses to football games.  I'm from Missouri and I've never heard of such a thing.  She tells me its a "southern thing."  Do people do that in Alabama, too?

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  • megs12914 said:
    @peanutmuse that's a good point. I think that is a connection. I am from Maryland and am a Redskins fan because I grew up watching them with my mom. I just don't get picking a random team because they win a lot and then being that crazy fan who revolves their lives around them. It is a big thing here in Alabama. People get crazy about sports here.
    This is why you have so many Yankees/Red Sox/Cowboys/Lakers/etc. fans who have no ties to any of those teams or cities.  Lots of fair-weather fans abound.  As a die-hard Philadelphia sports fan, I live and die by my teams and could never fathom rooting for a random team just because they win a lot.  

    However, I think college sports are somewhat of a different animal.  Alabama is a state school, so people who live in the state are likely to root for the team, even if they did not attend college there. I went to Temple University, but I am a fan of Penn State football, even though I have no ties (although both my SIL's are alumni of PSU).  But Penn State is the main state school of PA, and they have a huge following among those who live in/are from PA.
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  • megs12914 said:


    I just don't get picking a random team because they win a lot and then being that crazy fan who revolves their lives around them. It is a big thing here in Alabama. People get crazy about sports here.

    @megs12914, My youngest sister goes to Vanderbilt and the girls wear dresses to football games.  I'm from Missouri and I've never heard of such a thing.  She tells me its a "southern thing."  Do people do that in Alabama, too?


    Yes we do. It's really a sorority thing. It would be miserable and hot and we would stand there in these nice dresses the whole game. The pledges for the fraternities wear sports coats and run errands for the brothers of the fraternities the entire game and even get there hours early to save their seats. It is really bizarre.
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  • @peanutmuse

    What is that even supposed to mean?

    Exactly what I said. That I am not surprised that you take your kid to have chiropractic adjustments.

    There are people here who it would surprise me to hear that they take their kids to a chiropractor. You are just not one that surprises me.


    I'm just suprised you aren't into chiropractic. I've never met a dancer who didn't love her chiropractor or massage therapist. I'm not saying my chiro will cure cancer or magically make everything better. But he certainly has helped me in many ways.

    "I've received some info from IRL friends/family about these two things, and it's all I can do to not laugh right in their faces." This part just makes me think you were trying to insult me/those who do go to a chiropractor.

    Well then add me to that list of dancers that doesn't love it. I wouldn't go to a chiropractor if it was free! Personally I think that chiro's make people addicted to the relief and once you go, you're pretty much hooked because it's not permanent.

    Massage Therapy is a big difference, and I love a good massage! So I don't see why you would lump that into your statement.

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  • ANDYLEAH said:

    @peanutmuse

    What is that even supposed to mean?

    Exactly what I said. That I am not surprised that you take your kid to have chiropractic adjustments.

    There are people here who it would surprise me to hear that they take their kids to a chiropractor. You are just not one that surprises me.


    I'm just suprised you aren't into chiropractic. I've never met a dancer who didn't love her chiropractor or massage therapist. I'm not saying my chiro will cure cancer or magically make everything better. But he certainly has helped me in many ways.

    "I've received some info from IRL friends/family about these two things, and it's all I can do to not laugh right in their faces." This part just makes me think you were trying to insult me/those who do go to a chiropractor.

    Well then add me to that list of dancers that doesn't love it. I wouldn't go to a chiropractor if it was free! Personally I think that chiro's make people addicted to the relief and once you go, you're pretty much hooked because it's not permanent.

    Massage Therapy is a big difference, and I love a good massage! So I don't see why you would lump that into your statement.
    I totally agree @ANDYLEAH. I kind of ignored that part of her statement because it was weird. I know a lot of dancers who swear by chiropractors and a lot who think they are quacks. Same as the general population, in my experience.
  • benjaminsmommy16 said:

    Just because Peanut had mentioned massage as well. I understand that chiropractic and massage are two different things.
    That is true, I did -- but in terms of infant massage, not adults.
  • Massages are always painful for me. I I have back problems from three spinal surgeries including a spinal fusion. I have a torn ACL, a spinal cord cyst, and a dislocating hip.

    I never get to relax during the massage because of all the kinks they try to work out. Point being, I don't really like massages. Now that is an UO.
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  • megs12914 said:

    I think it is weird when people are fanatical about a sports team that they have no connection to.

    For example, I graduated from the University of Alabama and am a huge Alabama football fan (I do love football in general). I am not crazy to where I own 1,000 t-shirts, have bumper stickers, or an Alabama football mailbox or anything. I just don't understand people who didn't even go there but center their world/clothing/life around it.

    @megs12914 My brother just moved to Birmingham for an internship with UAB's football team. I'll be a fan of their's if he ends up getting a job there lol. Only if they're not playing OSU, of course!

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  • I am starting to really hate my husband's chiropractor. A few months ago, my H hurt his back at work and they sent him to the chiro paid for through workers comp. Okay, NBD. Get an adjustment and move on, right? Wrong. He has had to consistently see this stupid chiropractor 3x a week (after work, a time when I am really needing/ready for him to be home) since August! And of course, he can't just stop going because if he does, the chiropractor will report it to the workers comp people and we will have to pay for ALL of the treatments from day one out of pocket.
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  • benjaminsmommy16 said:
    What exactly is ridiculous about it? Most babies do have something out of whack after birth and adjustments help with that.
    Let's back up here. My personal opinion is that chiropractors are quacks. That is just how I feel about it. You certainly can have a different opinion than I have. We disagree on a lot of things.
    I understand that. I was just curious why you felt that way and didn't see the harm in asking you to explain your oppinion.
    I think that they treat symptoms rather than addressing the problem in a solution-based method. I think that physical therapy is a more responsible and effective way of treating problems. Also, the adjustments that a lot of people have tend to require maintenance -- otherwise, they feel worse than when they started. This is what happened to my husband. He decided to try chiropractic care for chronic back pain. I was very willing to accept it if it would help him, but he now feels like the chiropractor caused new problems and didn't actually "fix" anything. Basically, his anecdotal experience confirmed what I thought. All of his relief was temporary.

    Bottom line: I am a big believer in treating problems at their source rather than just treating symptoms.
    I have read the rest of the thread, so I know this has been hashed out already, but I agree here.  My brother-in-law is a physiotherapist.  He has changed my view of chiropractors 100%.  In high school I went to the chiro and had to keep going back every couple of weeks for ever.  I eventually stopped going because it was doing nothing aside from the immediate relief.  After my BIL graduated and started working, I went to see him for the same problems I had seen the chiro for years before - they had never gone away.  I had to come back once or twice a week for two weeks, and then it started moving to every two weeks.  Within 2 months I didn't (about 8 treatments) I didn't have to go back anymore and I haven't had any issues with that injury since. 

    Chiro definately treats the symptoms and not the problem for the most part.  Massage is also one I rave about.  I had horrendous back pain for a couple months this pregnancy.  Two visits to my massage therapist and it hasn't bothered me. 

    I will say though, that infant massage is good for a lot of things.  My massage therapist does infant massage and in addition to the bonding aspect of things (which is the main reason she does it with her mother/baby patients), she has used it to help with constipation, colic, and reflux.  She doesn't cure those things, but uses it as a tool to help the moms deal with it.

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  • Perhaps it's an UO, but perhaps not. I love formula! I don't know why mothers are so bananas about EBF, even after they give birth. I've talked to so many new moms lately who complain about how they're constantly nursing their LO's and aren't getting any sleep etc... and when I ask if they've tried a formula feed at night time they proudly announce that they are EBF! 

    .... Okay. Enjoy your sleepless nights! 

    And FTR, I am breast feeding, pumping AND formula feeding. I just know I'm not producing enough for both and initially HAD to supplement.. now I like formula feeds... the babies sleep best after them! 

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    I also love formula!  I BF for 6 weeks to make it through the cluster feeding stage so I'm not guessing so much at how much formula to make (and I use formula when out in public) and then go to strictly formula.  I am not looking forward to those 6 weeks but I suck it up and deal with it.

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  • benjaminsmommy16 said:

    Just because Peanut had mentioned massage as well. I understand that chiropractic and massage are two different things.
    That is true, I did -- but in terms of infant massage, not adults.
    I don't know if I would pay for an infant massage, but DS loved it when I gave him massages as an infant. He always got really relaxed. So I can see how someone might think it was silly to pay for an infant massage (Is this really a thing?) but I don't see how it's silly to just do it at home.
    I totally agree -- the value of touch cannot be overlooked, and it is definitely something that I would do at home, on my own. I merely question the logic and need for professional massage for an infant that you pay for.

    Background story: I received a gift certificate for a prenatal massage but the therapist doesn't have any openings before I will have the baby. So we were discussing the things I could trade it in for. One of the things she suggested was that she would come to my house and train me on how to massage my baby. Um, no. That's ridiculous. I wouldn't waste money on that crap.
  • My UO is this is day 3 of maternity leave, and I'm bored! Can I go back to work please? My job is hard, but fun. It was exhausting, but I still love it! If this baby doesn't come out today I'm going to go crazy! (Baby won't come today, I know I know). I don't know how people take off weeks before their baby is due (I'm talking about healthy pregnancies of course)

  • Well hello there, @tesskerr.
  • @peanutmuse I'm sure I have probably offended you again. I'm talking about people like me, who were lucky enough to have uneventful pregnancies. Friends of mine take up to a month of before they are due, to do what? Sit around? Its not like I'm physically able to do anything productive (weed the garden, for example) and FI had had the last week off for Xmas/new year. So house is clean and tidy. 

    I guess I'm just not a rester. It probably doesn't help that both my parents are now in hospital 10 hours away, so I can't visit, and work is such a great distraction for me.
  • I think that chiropractic care for infants is stupid. I can't believe that people actually waste their money on that kind of stuff. This also applies to massage. I've received some info from IRL friends/family about these two things, and it's all I can do to not laugh right in their faces.
    I just found out about infant chiropractics and I had to actively work not to make a smirk (considering it was IN my chiro office and she was explaining what reasons mothers bring in their babies). I was shocked, as the only time I've ever heard of a child receiving chiropractic care is if they have scoliosis or hip issues --and still not until they're in their teens.
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  • megs12914 said:
    @peanutmuse that's a good point. I think that is a connection. I am from Maryland and am a Redskins fan because I grew up watching them with my mom. I just don't get picking a random team because they win a lot and then being that crazy fan who revolves their lives around them. It is a big thing here in Alabama. People get crazy about sports here.
    This is why you have so many Yankees/Red Sox/Cowboys/Lakers/etc. fans who have no ties to any of those teams or cities.  Lots of fair-weather fans abound.  As a die-hard Philadelphia sports fan, I live and die by my teams and could never fathom rooting for a random team just because they win a lot.  

    However, I think college sports are somewhat of a different animal.  Alabama is a state school, so people who live in the state are likely to root for the team, even if they did not attend college there. I went to Temple University, but I am a fan of Penn State football, even though I have no ties (although both my SIL's are alumni of PSU).  But Penn State is the main state school of PA, and they have a huge following among those who live in/are from PA.
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    My sister hoot & holler Sundays like we're men.

    However my husband has family that are all about the Redskins & Steelers. I'm like WTF? they live in South Texas... and have probably never been to Washington or Pittsburgh!

    I get you though :D
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  • tesskerr said:
    @peanutmuse I'm sure I have probably offended you again. *snip*
    Nope, you didn't offend me at all. Not sure where that came from. If you offended me (or if I had any reaction whatsoever to what you wrote) I definitely would have directly addressed it. That's how I roll.

    No, I was just acknowledging your presence.
  • My UO is that I think it's ridiculous for people to plan an induction just to get a certain doctor to deliver the baby.  As long as a competent OB is at the end of my bed to catch the baby and check them out after birth, I could care less who does it!

    People do this? I wll say that of the five doctors at the practice I go to, there are three that I prefer and I got lucky that one of those three was on call when my water broke. If it had been one of the two I'm not all that fond of, I'd have sucked it up because baby was coming no matter who was there to deliver. If I'd had to be induced because baby was late or needed a c-section I may have tried to get a preferred doctor but that's different than scheduling from the get go.
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  • I have much to say on the subject of chiropractors, but I'll try to keep it short.

    Saying that all chiropractors are good seems to me like saying all people who drive semi's are good drivers. Or all teachers are good at their job. (add your own here) I don't think you can lump any group of people into boxes like that. It does seem that chiropractors as a group have one reputation or another, and I don't understand why.

    I know of good chiropractors (I see one, my parents see 2 others) and I know of bad chiropractors who are there to keep you coming.

    Like I said, I have much to say, but I think I'll stop here.
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  • twobluelines said:

    Just to jump foot first into this debate:  I work at a university and we have a well-respected chiropractor who teaches at the chiropractor school and is cross appointed faculty at our school and he does research into chronic pain.  He told me that it is a waste of time to use chiropractors for chronic conditions.  They should only ever see a patient in an acute phase.
    @twobluelines, that is an interesting twist, and I can understand and even respect that school of thought. I guess it's the people who go every week or two (or more) that I just don't really understand. If someone has to go that much, what good can it really be doing?
    ah dammit-- should have kept reading before I replied right away. My dad was in a real bad car accident leaving a few discs herniated. He was given 2 options- surgery (which would fuse his spine and potentially leave him out of work for the rest of his life since he is an iron worker and depends on his mobility) or chiropractics. He opted to try chiropractics first. Thank the heavens they were able to treat him beautifully and within a year he had zero pain and his discs went back into place.

    I think this is a scenario exactly like what @twobluelines would be speaking of- it was a fresh "wound" so to speak, and very acute.  Had he left things be and walked in a few years after saying he had all these problems, probably wouldn't have helped. All I know is that the chiro saved his back and he has never been under the knife once. The doctors were blown away how well he healed.

    Also- my lower back was completely screwed from 10 years of gymnastics to the point where I couldn't lay comfortably on my stomach for even 30 seconds. Twice at the chiropractor (same one my dad went to) I can happily say I've never had another issue. I don't go regularly and wouldn't ever plan to [even though those deep cracks are little bits of heaven].

    The people who go every week or multiple times a month for routine "adjustments" kind of crack me up. Especially considering my best friend and her sister both go because of their scoliosis and to keep themselves feeling good, they only go twice a year (and can still ride horses daily and do every other activity the rest of the year without pain).  

    & in the words of Forrest Gump-- That is all I have to say about that.
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  • I'm just suprised you aren't into chiropractic. I've never met a dancer who didn't love her chiropractor or massage therapist. I'm not saying my chiro will cure cancer or magically make everything better. But he certainly has helped me in many ways.

    "I've received some info from IRL friends/family about these two things, and it's all I can do to not laugh right in their faces." This part just makes me think you were trying to insult me/those who do go to a chiropractor.

    I didn't insult those who go to a chiropractor for themselves. Certainly, I question its value, but I know some people swear by it -- to each her own.

    However, I do think taking an infant or young child to a chiropractor is ridiculous. So yeah, since my opinion that I think what you are doing is ridiculous, I guess you could reasonably be insulted by that.  That fact doesn't change how I feel about it, though.

    What exactly is ridiculous about it? Most babies do have something out of whack after birth and adjustments help with that.
    I guess I'm on @benjaminsmommy16's side on this one.  We take DD to the chiro, and are big chiro fans ourselves.  They've solved my headache problems where as my dr.  did absolutely nothing for them.  Just told me to take drugs.  Um, thanks dude, but I'd rather not cover up the symptoms.  And it's my neck bones that don't stay in place properly that cause the headaches.  Nothing else.  At first I went for bi-weekly treatments (definitely necessary, not just stealing my money) and within 3 months I was going monthly.  Now I basically just need to go every 4-6 weeks and I'm headache free.  If I don't, I'll have migraines for days.  
    This LO will be visiting the chiro at about 3 weeks old.  When they're born a lot of their bones will be put out of place.  Once they've seen the chiro once and had them adjusted babies are usually fine to go once every 3ish months.  That's all we do with DD, and she generally is a bit out but not too bad.  
    That being said tho, we managed to find an honest, good chiro.  There's tons (and tons and tons) of money-grabbing ones out there that don't do anything, or just 'half-fix' the problem so you are forced to come back.   
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  • My UO: I do not care either way how my toilet paper hangs. I pop on a new roll and if it's over-hanging, that's fine, and if it's under that's fine too!

    As for chiropractic: one of my closest friends from high school is a fanatical chiropractor: the kind who believes chiropractic is the cure for all ills, believes subluxations exist and cause most disease, and actively campaigns against any and all vaccinations and advises his patients against them. I swear his profession has honestly affected our friendship a little, because I disagree so strongly with him on the vaccine issue that it's caused a bit of a rift.

    I had to tell him to stop ever commenting with his anti-vaccine bullshit on my Facebook because it sent me into such a blind rage when he responded to a post about me getting the flu shot with a bunch of crap about how I was hurting myself and my baby by getting the shot.

    I'm not anti-chiro in general, my husband likes his and claims he gets something out of adjustments. But the fanatical ones like my friend do make me a little crazy.
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  • My uo is that I like that I have a birth plan. It makes me feel comfortable that I've at least thought through my ideal situation and how I would prefer things be handled if it was under my control. It generally makes me feel more knowledgeable and less afraid of the whole situation.

    In addition, the nurses in the birthing center at my hospital require it for this exact reason.
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  • wifetomrb101 said:
    This LO will be visiting the chiro at about 3 weeks old.  When they're born a lot of their bones will be put out of place.  Once they've seen the chiro once and had them adjusted babies are usually fine to go once every 3ish months.
    Following this logic, a baby would never be able to recover from birth without a chiropractor. That is absolute nonsense.
    Good point, but I know of 2 babies of friends who weren't sleeping good at night around 2ish months, were fussy and gassy and after taking them to the chiro only once the babies were sleeping better.  Some babies may be fine after birth, others not. 
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  • wifetomrb101 said:
    This LO will be visiting the chiro at about 3 weeks old.  When they're born a lot of their bones will be put out of place.  Once they've seen the chiro once and had them adjusted babies are usually fine to go once every 3ish months.
    Following this logic, a baby would never be able to recover from birth without a chiropractor. That is absolute nonsense.
    Good point, but I know of 2 babies of friends who weren't sleeping good at night around 2ish months, were fussy and gassy and after taking them to the chiro only once the babies were sleeping better.  Some babies may be fine after birth, others not. 
    Had they not considered other factors before an adjustment? Plenty of babies are fussy and gassy at 2 months, and it's a much much simpler solution than a chiropractor (which I would bet my money that the majority of people have never heard of this nor would consider it).
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