Pregnant after IF

re: IF & loss - Anger/frustration occuring later in pregnancy

Wondering if any moms-to-be out there found themselves, later in pregnancy, dealing with anger/frustration emotions around their struggle to get PG.

It's come up for both me and my DH several times recently and I was wondering if it was common. We're in 3rd tri now and things have been going great the whole time - but I have moments lately of such upset/sadness/anger about our 4 losses and IF attempts. I'm curious if they're happening now because things seem more certain, so there's a light at the end of the tunnel, mentally. Like I can finally BE upset because we don't have to live under a constant question mark.

Thoughts?


BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
TTC #1 since 1/10
DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

Our lil' lost sparks:
5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

Moving on to IVF.

IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
We are so in love with her.

"I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

Everybody is welcome!!!

Re: re: IF & loss - Anger/frustration occuring later in pregnancy

  • I've also had four losses. So far, I've felt positive during this pregnancy, but I absolutely think it makes sense that you are finally allowing yourself to go through those final stages of grief. I think I went through what you're going through once we decided to "give up" (this was a surprise bfp after we finally stopped trying). But if you haven't already gone through it, it makes sense that you are now. Your mind has finally given you permission to feel these feelings. Just let them happen and hopefully it will give you the closure you need. (Hugs)

    Me: 42. DH: 46.

    1st Pregnancy: MC, 11/19/00.

    2nd Pregnancy: DS born 04/10/06.

    3rd Pregnancy: CP, 03/11.

    4th Pregnancy: MMC, D&C 11/30/11, Genetic testing revealed Trisomy 4.

    5th Pregnancy: Ectopic, 2 doses of Methotrexate unsuccessful, surgery 4/10/12, right tube removed.

    Tried Letrozole January 2013-July 2013 (including 2 IUIs), all BFN.  After 2 1/2 years of trying for child #2, decided to "give up" after July cycle, based on AMA.

    August 16, 2013:  BFP our first month of "not trying!"  Still in shock.  Beta #1 (14dpo): 183.  Beta #2 (17dpo):  611.  Ultrasound 8/30/13: baby measured 6 weeks, 1 day, heart rate of 118 bpm! 
    Ultrasound 9/13/13:  8 weeks, heart rate of 176!
    Baby is due 4/26/14

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  • I still think about it quite a bit.  I think about how my due date passed for one we lost, how I should already have a baby.  I think about the twin we lost with this pregnancy.  But i am really happy about this baby that I will meet in 12 weeks.
  • I still get angry about the struggles with infertility and when I see all of these wonderful women here and read their siggies, it infuriates me that such sweet and loving people have had this shitty card dealt to them. It especially upsets me when it involves loss. I especially feel this way about women, like two friends of mine, who are still struggling with infertility. 

    I look at pregnant women and my immediate reaction is one of anger. It's like I assume every woman out there gets pregnant at the drop of a hat and that upsets me. I guess I still carry an "it's not fair" attitude, even though I'm pregnant.

    Like @tryingyetagain said, I think it's part of the grief process. I don't know if these feelings will ever go away but I'm holding on to hope that one day I will heal.


    DH & I: 29
    TTC #1 4/2009 -  DD 2/5/10
    TTC #2 since October 2011
    2IF issues
    7/2013 - IUI #1: 50 units Follistim +  Ovidrel  = BFN
    8/2013 - IUI #2: 50 units Follistim +  Ovidrel  = BFP! Beta #1 (12 dpiui) 8/21: 45  Beta #2 (16 dpiui) 8/26: 301 Beta #3 (21 dpiui) 8/30: 1,929. 1st Ultrasound 9/4 - One perfect sac. 2nd Ultrasound 9/13 - Heartbeat at 124 bpm! Anniversary  

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  • I know what you mean. In my case, anniversary syndrome is happening. This is when I had my loss so lots of things bringing it back....the other thing I think that is happening is its starting to get real and subconsciously I am trying to protect myself. I am still seeing a therapist once a week since my loss. She said its like I worry to prepare myself. She is teaching me to answer the worry back with logic...somedays that's easier than others. On a side note, I was wondering how you're doing due date buddy...
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    Me:34 PCOS, one kinked tube, low thyroid.
    DH:39 lower than average count.
    Married 2006. 3 failed IUIs and countless BFNs.
    ~IVF#1: July 2012~
    7/10 Retrieval: 16r, 14f w/ICSI. 7/15 ET: Transfered 2. 4 frosties.< Poas faint+ 4dp5dt.>
    Beta#1 (8dp5dt): 138. Beta#2 (10dp5dt): 355.
    u/s#1: (19dp5dt) 8/3/12 one sac, two yolks! Beta 8,000
    u/s#2: two strong heartbeats! EDD 4/2/12
    Boy/girl fraternal mono/di twins-- lost our sweet baby girl at 22 weeks due to SIUGR
    Preterm labor at 23 weeks 4 days, lost our sweet baby boy.
  • Hey friend, it was actually worse for me after I gave birth, as a word of warning. Granted, I think a lot of the reason for that was the trauma around their arrival and having two babies in intensive care (so they didn't really feel like my babies). It was so hard to not be pregnant, and I felt cheated out of the normal process, as well as cheated out of the last two months of my pregnancy, and it was so hard seeing what should have been our happy ending success story be so sick and undergoing so many medical interventions.

    Hopefully you won't have to deal with any delivery or nicu issues, but the post delivery hormones can make the grieving process rough after delivery too. Thought I'd mention so you can be prepared and have your DH help you.

    Hang in there!
    Married 8/2008. IVF with PGD March 2013.
    3/22 ER: 25R, 20M, 15F. 9 genetically normal, and 3 survived to Day 5
    3/27 ET: transferred 1 embryo, beta 9dp5dt=163, 12dp5dt=639
    4/25 1st ultrasound at 7 weeks = identical twins with heartbeats?!!!
    PPROM at 31w, delivery at 32 weeks of two beautiful girls
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  • I am still very fearful of loss, since I had a 2nd tri loss. But I mostly get upset that I am cheated out of having a normal, happy, joyful pregnancy. IF and loss have both stolen that from me. I don't think its wrong at all to have those feelings, and I know that when I go in to the MFM I always want special attention because it was hard to get to this point in the first place. When baby is born, it will just be a "normal" baby to everyone. No one knows how special, and wanted and longed for this baby truly is. <3
    Lilypie - (5WpR)
    Me(26)PCOS, Hypothyroidism & Incompetent Cervix  DH(28)Azoospermia
    4/11 Off BCPs -- Cycle 1-3 (6months) - No ovulation, Provera
    Cycle 4-6 - Provera, Clomid 50mg, CD23BW - All BFN (HSG-all clear)
    Dec 2011 DH S/A shows zero count - dx Azoo
    TESE 4/13/12 - Sperm found!! 5 viles frozen
    IVF ICSI #1- (Lupron protocol) 5R 2F 2dt- 2DP & 4CF - BFFN
    IVF ICSI #2-  (Antagonist protocol) Started stims 7/26
    ER 8/8 11R 9F 3dt - 9BF & 7BF (+HPT 8dp3dt)TWINS! EDD 5/1/13
    <312/9 Joshua David and Zoe Faith born too early at 19w4d due to incompetent cervix <3
    Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
      LAP Transabdominal Cerclage - 4/15/13 only possibility of carrying my children to term 
    IVF#3 - June 2013 -  canceled.
    IVF ICSI #3.2- (Antagonist Protocol) 7/26 start stims (same day, a year later from J & Z's stim start date!)
     ER 8/7 19R 9F 3dt of 2- 8BF embryos. (+HPT 7dp3dt) Beta #1 - 82.8 Beta #2 - 821 Beta #3 - 7254
    9/11/13 - U/S shows 1 baby HR 135bpm! EDD: 4/30/13
    It's a BOY!!
    2/9/14 - DX Gestational Diabetes
    C-section scheduled for 4/7/14 (36w5d)
    Colin Joseph - 1:07pm 6lbs 14oz - 8 days in the NICU
    Everyone Welcome!
  • Hugs BzeetyD! I think it is normal. And most of us on SAIF still have those feelings. I still find it hard when others get pregnant without much difficulty.
  • I hear ya. We never had a loss, but we had the multiple failed cycles. Between knowing people that had losses, esp late ones and the fact I'm a nicu nurse, my brain never stops. Istill feel angry when it happens easy for ssomeone or when I get grouped w them for being pregnant. My brain doesn't want to let me get ready for them as if that'll make it easier if something goes wrong. I bought them outfits the other day and sobbed in the store. You'd think I was crazy. My therapist says this is normal. Hang in there bzee!
    "Everything will be alright in the end. So if it's not alright, it is not yet the end."
    Me:29 DH:29  TTC since 1/11 Dx: unexplained IF/early DOR/immune issues 
    Feb'12- July'12-testing(all clear minus slight arcuate ute), 3 IUI with clomid all BFN
    8/30IVF#1 Antagonist protocol- ER 9/11-8R, 7M, 5F. 
    ET 9/14 2 embies transferred. 1 10cell Grade 4, 1 8cell Grade 4. No frosties. BFN
    IVF#2 Antagonist protocol plus baby aspirin- ER 12/5-16R, 12M, 8F!
    ET 12/10 5dt! 1 fully expanded blast & 1 early blast. No frosties. BFN
    3/13 hysteroscopy & polypectomy, Consulted w Dr. Kwak-Kim.  
    DX: High NK cells, cytokines, DHEAs& PAI1;  hypothyroid, +APA, restricted bloodflow
    7/13 IVF#3 Long lupron protocol with PIO, Crinone, Prometrium, and vivelle
    (plus synthroid, metformin, baby asa, metanx, PNV, Vit E, D, calcium, fish oil, CoQ10, IVIg infusions and lovenox per Dr. Kwak-kim)
    ER 7/19 14R, 11M, 9F(4 natural fert, 5 with ICSI)
    ET 5dt 7/24 2 fully expanded blasts.  SURPRISE 3 FROSTIES!!!
    Beta #1 8/2 335!!!! Beta #2 829!!!  1st u/s 8/14 showed TWINS!!!!!
    11/11: TEAM PURPLE!!!!!
    3/21/14-L&W born at 37w via csection

    Here Comes the Sun Blog
    PAIF/SAIF welcome!
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