---- Sunday Crazy Train ----

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

Welcome to Crazy Train. This is a thread posted daily for any of us who need to get out our frustrations or vent about our cycles.

If you find yourself checking FF obsessively, MF is getting the best of you, POAS issues, let it out here!

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Crazy level from 1-10:

CD/DPO:

Can I just ______ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here:

KMW08 · December 2013

Crazy level from 1-10: 10!!

CD/DPO: 13dpo

Can I just __get af so I know wtf is going on___ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: cramping, temp drop. The normal stuff for me.

Explain your Crazy here: I really haven't felt like this was my cycle the entire time. Dh was convinced otherwise, so we poas this morning (negative), but for the hell of it I dipped an opk. The opk is darkish...ummm wtf, usually the opk close to af is stark white. Now thinking about my cramping it's all been left ovary area these past few days. I'm just baffled & ready for af.

buggirl72 · December 2013

KMW08 said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 10!! CD/DPO: 13dpo Can I just __get af so I know wtf is going on___ already?!: Signs/Symptoms: cramping, temp drop. The normal stuff for me. Explain your Crazy here: I really haven't felt like this was my cycle the entire time. Dh was convinced otherwise, so we poas this morning (negative), but for the hell of it I dipped an opk. The opk is darkish...ummm wtf, usually the opk close to af is stark white. Now thinking about my cramping it's all been left ovary area these past few days. I'm just baffled & ready for af.

(((hugs)))) why the open circle for today's temp?

buggirl72 · December 2013

I thought I would catch a ride today

Crazy level from 1-10: 4ish

CD/DPO: CD12 maybe 1 dpo

Can I just __trust my temps____ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: maybe a touch of osomnia?

Explain your Crazy here: I have a great temp spike this a.m. but I'm not sure how accurate it is. My dog woke me up at 2 a.m. to take him for a walk. I did not take my temp then. I went back to bed and temped at 6 a.m. which is around 1 1/2 later than normal. So, I now have this incredibly high temp that I know is not accurate that is also right around when I think O may be happening. I was really hoping to just rely on my temps this cycle.

Here is another thing for you Dr. Twizzler's: I don't remember having O pain yet this cycle. I did have some spotting on CD10 that would fit with O spotting. O pain is normal for me but it used to be just one day for a very short duration. My first cycle after my CP, I had about a week of "O" pain prior to actually Oing. The last couple cycles, which coincide with the cycles after my last medicated one, I've had intense O pain that has lasted for three or four days and the end of my 2WW for the last two cycles I have also had left side cramping down by my left ovary - which was very intense last cycle. Since that is my only ovary it makes me think I may have developed a cyst on it (RE never did a cyst check after the medicated cycle). If so, I'm hoping that it burst last cycle. Of course, I could also just be having random pains that have nothing to do with my ovary. I need ute goggles!

KMW08 · December 2013

buggirl72 said:

KMW08 said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 10!!

CD/DPO: 13dpo

Can I just __get af so I know wtf is going on___ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: cramping, temp drop. The normal stuff for me.

Explain your Crazy here: I really haven't felt like this was my cycle the entire time. Dh was convinced otherwise, so we poas this morning (negative), but for the hell of it I dipped an opk. The opk is darkish...ummm wtf, usually the opk close to af is stark white. Now thinking about my cramping it's all been left ovary area these past few days. I'm just baffled & ready for af.

(((hugs)))) why the open circle for today's temp?

I woke up 1hr early. I also had watery cm, but if I enter that it moves CH's to cd20 & makes them dotted.

MsAmandaPants · December 2013

buggirl72 said:
I thought I would catch a ride today

Crazy level from 1-10:

4ish

CD/DPO:

CD12 maybe 1 dpo

Can I just __trust my temps____ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

maybe a touch of osomnia?

Explain your Crazy here: I have a great temp spike this a.m. but I'm not sure how accurate it is. My dog woke me up at 2 a.m. to take him for a walk. I did not take my temp then. I went back to bed and temped at 6 a.m. which is around 1 1/2 later than normal. So, I now have this incredibly high temp that I know is not accurate that is also right around when I think O may be happening. I was really hoping to just rely on my temps this cycle.

Here is another thing for you Dr. Twizzler's: I don't remember having O pain yet this cycle. I did have some spotting on CD10 that would fit with O spotting. O pain is normal for me but it used to be just one day for a very short duration. My first cycle after my CP, I had about a week of "O" pain prior to actually Oing. The last couple cycles, which coincide with the cycles after my last medicated one, I've had intense O pain that has lasted for three or four days and the end of my 2WW for the last two cycles I have also had left side cramping down by my left ovary - which was very intense last cycle. Since that is my only ovary it makes me think I may have developed a cyst on it (RE never did a cyst check after the medicated cycle). If so, I'm hoping that it burst last cycle. Of course, I could also just be having random pains that have nothing to do with my ovary. I need ute goggles!

Bug, re: your ovary pain in the 2ww, could it be a flare of your endo? My RE told me that one of the hallmarks of endo is pain in the days leading up to AF, not just during AF. I'm sorry. I'm having weird persistent ovary pain too, and it sucks .

Maupjen · December 2013

Crazy level from 1-10: 7

CD/DPO: CD 24/ DPO 11

Can I just __actually resist POAS to avoid disappointment__ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: I'm on progesterone supplementation for the first time. I already had terrible PMS previously but this is awful. I'm incredibly tired. I took two naps yesterday. I'm breaking out. I know all these symptoms are from the progesterone but it's just making me crazy. This morning I woke up with definite cramping so I feel it may only be a matter of time.

Explain your Crazy here: My chart looks pretty but I know it is also likely the progesterone keeping my temps up. I typically have a shorter luteal phase. I've tested way too many times already. I tested at 7 dpo to test out my hcg trigger and it was already negative. I tested at 9, 10, and now 11 dpo. I don't know why I'm torturing myself but I have no self control. I felt so zen going into this cycle but the crazy has returned!

MsAmandaPants · December 2013

Hi ladies, I have a question for my chart experts. I usually temp at 7am. Last night I could not sleep and remember the clock passing 4am. I was also up and down to the bathroom a couple of times. I took my temp at 7:30 and it was 97.84. I didn't get up and just went back to sleep. I woke up a couple hours later around 9:30 and temped again for the hell of it and it was up to 98.33. It may have been my imagination, but it also seemed like the second temp took forever to register.

Of course, I like the second temp better because I've been looking for a good rise, but I'm thinking I have to go with the first, even though it was sleep deprived? What do you guys think?

gscoville · December 2013

MsAmandaPants said:

Hi ladies, I have a question for my chart experts. I usually temp at 7am. Last night I could not sleep and remember the clock passing 4am. I was also up and down to the bathroom a couple of times. I took my temp at 7:30 and it was 97.84. I didn't get up and just went back to sleep. I woke up a couple hours later around 9:30 and temped again for the hell of it and it was up to 98.33. It may have been my imagination, but it also seemed like the second temp took forever to register. Of course, I like the second temp better because I've been looking for a good rise, but I'm thinking I have to go with the first, even though it was sleep deprived? What do you guys think?

I'd say the first temp, as it's 'less' sleep deprived than the second - even if you didn't get up, you did wake up a couple hours earlier and that's usually enough to push subsequent temps up. I'm sorry you had a rough night of sleep, it's always something I struggle with around O, I so badly want an accurate chart and seem to stress myself into sleeping even worse than I usually do right around O. ((hugs))

rubysi · December 2013

Crazy level from 1-10:6

CD/DPO: CD 13

Can I just figure out this charting thing already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here: I think temping is not good for me becuase I am a light sleeper and wake up many times in the night. My chart has some pretty big ups and downs.

Here is the link

My chart

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

KMW08 said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 10!! CD/DPO: 13dpo Can I just __get af so I know wtf is going on___ already?!: Signs/Symptoms: cramping, temp drop. The normal stuff for me. Explain your Crazy here: I really haven't felt like this was my cycle the entire time. Dh was convinced otherwise, so we poas this morning (negative), but for the hell of it I dipped an opk. The opk is darkish...ummm wtf, usually the opk close to af is stark white. Now thinking about my cramping it's all been left ovary area these past few days. I'm just baffled & ready for af.

Ugh, sorry you're feeling crazy kmw! That OPK doesn't look too dark to me, but maybe it's just the pic? I've never POAOPK close to AF so I don't know what mine look like at that point in my cycle. ((hugs)) sorry about the BFN

ETA: I actually think your O date might be CD20, or even CD21. Without CM it's hard to say, but that's based on temps and OPKs. CD19 could be it too, though.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

buggirl72 said:

I thought I would catch a ride today
Crazy level from 1-10: 4ish

CD/DPO: CD12 maybe 1 dpo

Can I just __trust my temps____ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: maybe a touch of osomnia?

Explain your Crazy here: I have a great temp spike this a.m. but I'm not sure how accurate it is. My dog woke me up at 2 a.m. to take him for a walk. I did not take my temp then. I went back to bed and temped at 6 a.m. which is around 1 1/2 later than normal. So, I now have this incredibly high temp that I know is not accurate that is also right around when I think O may be happening. I was really hoping to just rely on my temps this cycle.

Here is another thing for you Dr. Twizzler's: I don't remember having O pain yet this cycle. I did have some spotting on CD10 that would fit with O spotting. O pain is normal for me but it used to be just one day for a very short duration. My first cycle after my CP, I had about a week of "O" pain prior to actually Oing. The last couple cycles, which coincide with the cycles after my last medicated one, I've had intense O pain that has lasted for three or four days and the end of my 2WW for the last two cycles I have also had left side cramping down by my left ovary - which was very intense last cycle. Since that is my only ovary it makes me think I may have developed a cyst on it (RE never did a cyst check after the medicated cycle). If so, I'm hoping that it burst last cycle. Of course, I could also just be having random pains that have nothing to do with my ovary. I need ute goggles!

That gif is hilarious, bug! That is frustrating about your temp. I wish I could tell you but... as I think you know, only time will tell. What happened with your OPKs after CD10? I hope you get a clear answer in the next few days!

As for your 2nd question... msamandapants has a point, it *could* be endo, but it could be a lot of things. It could also be nothing. It could be a corpus luteum cyst, which is totally benign and really common. Sometimes the corpus luteum can cause pain even if there is no cyst. It sounds like the medicated cycles kind of shook things up, which is even more frustrating. If the pain is really bad this cycle too, I'd talk to your doctor. I wish I had ute googles and could tell you exactly what's going on...the closest thing is an ultrasound, lol.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

Maupjen said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 7

CD/DPO: CD 24/ DPO 11

Can I just __actually resist POAS to avoid disappointment__ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: I'm on progesterone supplementation for the first time. I already had terrible PMS previously but this is awful. I'm incredibly tired. I took two naps yesterday. I'm breaking out. I know all these symptoms are from the progesterone but it's just making me crazy. This morning I woke up with definite cramping so I feel it may only be a matter of time.

Explain your Crazy here: My chart looks pretty but I know it is also likely the progesterone keeping my temps up. I typically have a shorter luteal phase. I've tested way too many times already. I tested at 7 dpo to test out my hcg trigger and it was already negative. I tested at 9, 10, and now 11 dpo. I don't know why I'm torturing myself but I have no self control. I felt so zen going into this cycle but the crazy has returned!

Yeah, the progestrone will keep your temps up and give you a pretty chart, regardless of whether or not you're pg. I've never taken it but it must make the MF much worse in so many ways! Sorry about the BFNs

((hugs)) Do you have a beta scheduled? Usually you won't get AF until after you stop the progesterone, since the progesterone keeps AF from coming.

KMW08 · December 2013

@buggirl72 love that gif btw! Although your temp is inaccurate I'm going out on a limb & saying it's probably not too far off, it's still in a decent range & not terribly obscured & up in left field. Thanks for the hugs love!

@MsAmandaPants I say def use that first temp. You might make a note of the second temp & scenario to use for comparison later. Either way you're still going to have an open circle. As for taking longer, I think the higher the longer they do--mine counts up and then has to settle, so if it teeters a bit it takes mine longer to "choose." Hope that makes sense.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

MsAmandaPants said:

Hi ladies, I have a question for my chart experts. I usually temp at 7am. Last night I could not sleep and remember the clock passing 4am. I was also up and down to the bathroom a couple of times. I took my temp at 7:30 and it was 97.84. I didn't get up and just went back to sleep. I woke up a couple hours later around 9:30 and temped again for the hell of it and it was up to 98.33. It may have been my imagination, but it also seemed like the second temp took forever to register. Of course, I like the second temp better because I've been looking for a good rise, but I'm thinking I have to go with the first, even though it was sleep deprived? What do you guys think?

Ahh, good old osomnia. A common problem! People usually say use the first temp, or you can also always use the lowest temp, to be on the safe side. Personally, when this kind of thing happens, I usually just don't enter a temp in FF. I usually put both in my notes, and then I can go back and look at that if I need to. Sorry, I know you wanted me to say "use the 2nd temp!"

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

rubysi said:

Crazy level from 1-10:6

CD/DPO: CD 13

Can I just figure out this charting thing already?!:

Signs/Symptoms:

Explain your Crazy here: I think temping is not good for me becuase I am a light sleeper and wake up many times in the night. My chart has some pretty big ups and downs.
Here is the link
My chart

That doesn't link your chart, it just shows me my chart. To link your chart, go to your FF homepage and click on Sharing --> Get code. Then copy/paste the link.

As for your question...without seeing your chart I can't tell you what I think of your temps. BUT...I am a very light sleeper and wake up/get up several times every single night. I have still been able to see a clear temp rise every cycle I've charted. And honestly, my temps aren't any more rocky than other people's. What I do is I temp the first time I wake up after 6am, which is almost always before 7am. If I have to get up earlier than that for school, I temp when I get up. As long as I'm pretty consistent, it seems to work fine. Sometimes I've been asleep for 2 hours, sometimes 45 minutes. It really has worked much, much better than I thought/expected. So keep at it, you might be surprised! Do you use OPKs? That can help you anticipate when you will O, which temping does not help you with.

Good luck, and let me know if you have any more questions!

buggirl72 · December 2013

@MsAmandaPants and @RedTwizzlers - good thinking on the endo! I l know I have endo on that ovary and it's been close to ten years since it's been checked so it could be more extensive in that area.

Waliany2015 · December 2013

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Crazy level from 1-10: 7

CD/DPO: CD31

Can I just __get AF____ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: I've got nothing! I've been really emotional and easily frustrated but I think it's still my body trying to get back on track. I know it's probably setting myself up for disappointment but how cool would it be to get a bfp on Christmas. I would totally wrap it up as a gift lol

Explain your Crazy here:

E&B0811 · December 2013

Hi! Are you taking late boarders??

Warning - CP mentioned

Crazy level from 1-10: 5

CD/DPO: CD18. DPO?? Excellent question!

Can I just ______ already?!: get a negative opk!

Signs/Symptoms: many days of positive OPKs.

Explain your Crazy here: I had a cp last month. For the 3 cycles pre-cp and all but one after my first mc I O'd on cd12. This month I had all sorts of EWCM CD11-14 and definite O pains on cd14 and 15. I was using old (like more than 2 months old and already opened) OPKs for the first 14 days and got (I think) a positive on Thursday - CD14. I forgot to poaopk on Friday (CD15) but yesterday and today got blaring positives using FMU. So, based on the information I have, I think I O'd Friday. FF says I am O'ing today and if I put in a positive opk for tomorrow it moves O to tomorrow. Argh! I usually have a long surge - about 3 days on average - but I am potentially looking at a 5 day surge if tomorrow is positive. I don't temp because it is too stressful for me. Like, I don't sleep through the night the whole month because I am so scared of messing it up.

So, here are my questions...can using FMU for OPKs give false positives? I read that it can give false negatives but am not sure about the reverse. Also, I know cycles can change post loss but has anyone noticed an unusually long surge after a CP? Finally, what do people do - poaopk until it's positive and then stop (per the directions) or (to hell with the directions) poaopk until it's positive and continue until you get a negative? Do you put all positives in FF?

Thanks for reading this far! I bought everyone some hot chocolate and cookies from the CT snack cart for your time.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

Waliany2015 said:

------------------------------------- Crazy level from 1-10: 7 CD/DPO: CD31 Can I just __get AF____ already?!: Signs/Symptoms: I've got nothing! I've been really emotional and easily frustrated but I think it's still my body trying to get back on track. I know it's probably setting myself up for disappointment but how cool would it be to get a bfp on Christmas. I would totally wrap it up as a gift lol Explain your Crazy here:

How long are your cycles normally? Are you charting? Sorry you're feeling emotional and frustrated. I hope you get some answers soon.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

E&B0811 said:

Hi! Are you taking late boarders?? Warning - CP mentioned Crazy level from 1-10: 5 CD/DPO: CD18. DPO?? Excellent question! Can I just ______ already?!: get a negative opk! Signs/Symptoms: many days of positive OPKs. Explain your Crazy here: I had a cp last month. For the 3 cycles pre-cp and all but one after my first mc I O'd on cd12. This month I had all sorts of EWCM CD11-14 and definite O pains on cd14 and 15. I was using old (like more than 2 months old and already opened) OPKs for the first 14 days and got (I think) a positive on Thursday - CD14. I forgot to poaopk on Friday (CD15) but yesterday and today got blaring positives using FMU. So, based on the information I have, I think I O'd Friday. FF says I am O'ing today and if I put in a positive opk for tomorrow it moves O to tomorrow. Argh! I usually have a long surge - about 3 days on average - but I am potentially looking at a 5 day surge if tomorrow is positive. I don't temp because it is too stressful for me. Like, I don't sleep through the night the whole month because I am so scared of messing it up. So, here are my questions...can using FMU for OPKs give false positives? I read that it can give false negatives but am not sure about the reverse. Also, I know cycles can change post loss but has anyone noticed an unusually long surge after a CP? Finally, what do people do - poaopk until it's positive and then stop (per the directions) or (to hell with the directions) poaopk until it's positive and continue until you get a negative? Do you put all positives in FF? Thanks for reading this far! I bought everyone some hot chocolate and cookies from the CT snack cart for your time.

Hi! Of course! Can you link your chart? That would make it much easier for me! I know you said you don't temp, but do you chart OPKs? Anyway, to answer your question, @buggirl72's RE told her that FMU can cause false positive OPKs. I personally have not experienced anything like that and it's hard for me to understand physiologically how that would be possible. (Not saying the RE's wrong, just saying I don't really get it!) I, and I think most people from what I can tell from my massive chart stalking, usually pee till O is confirmed via temping. If you're not temping, I would still recommend peeing until you get a negative.

Did you test later in the day yesterday and today? Because if you did, and it was still positive, then I don't think you've O'ed yet. If you answer that I can try to help you better!

E&B0811 · December 2013

RedTwizzlers said:

E&B0811 said:

Hi! Are you taking late boarders??

Warning - CP mentioned

Crazy level from 1-10: 5

CD/DPO: CD18. DPO?? Excellent question!

Can I just ______ already?!: get a negative opk!

Signs/Symptoms: many days of positive OPKs.

Explain your Crazy here: I had a cp last month. For the 3 cycles pre-cp and all but one after my first mc I O'd on cd12. This month I had all sorts of EWCM CD11-14 and definite O pains on cd14 and 15. I was using old (like more than 2 months old and already opened) OPKs for the first 14 days and got (I think) a positive on Thursday - CD14. I forgot to poaopk on Friday (CD15) but yesterday and today got blaring positives using FMU. So, based on the information I have, I think I O'd Friday. FF says I am O'ing today and if I put in a positive opk for tomorrow it moves O to tomorrow. Argh! I usually have a long surge - about 3 days on average - but I am potentially looking at a 5 day surge if tomorrow is positive. I don't temp because it is too stressful for me. Like, I don't sleep through the night the whole month because I am so scared of messing it up.

So, here are my questions...can using FMU for OPKs give false positives? I read that it can give false negatives but am not sure about the reverse. Also, I know cycles can change post loss but has anyone noticed an unusually long surge after a CP? Finally, what do people do - poaopk until it's positive and then stop (per the directions) or (to hell with the directions) poaopk until it's positive and continue until you get a negative? Do you put all positives in FF?

Thanks for reading this far! I bought everyone some hot chocolate and cookies from the CT snack cart for your time.

Hi! Of course! Can you link your chart? That would make it much easier for me! I know you said you don't temp, but do you chart OPKs? Anyway, to answer your question, @buggirl72's RE told her that FMU can cause false positive OPKs. I personally have not experienced anything like that and it's hard for me to understand physiologically how that would be possible. (Not saying the RE's wrong, just saying I don't really get it!) I, and I think most people from what I can tell from my massive chart stalking, usually pee till O is confirmed via temping. If you're not temping, I would still recommend peeing until you get a negative.

Did you test later in the day yesterday and today? Because if you did, and it was still positive, then I don't think you've O'ed yet. If you answer that I can try to help you better!

Thanks, Red! I did not test again yesterday. I am trying to test again today but it is so hard to wait that long to pee! Here's a link to my chart: https://fertilityfriend.com/home/430d81

Waliany2015 · December 2013

Before the MC I had regular 28 day cycles. I've never charted or tempted I just have a fertility app where you put in when you start your period and it says when your fertile days are and when to expect your next period. I work 12hr graveyard shift so my sleep cycle is so wacky temping wouldn't work for me.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

E&B0811 said:

Thanks, Red! I did not test again yesterday. I am trying to test again today but it is so hard to wait that long to pee! Here's a link to my chart: https://fertilityfriend.com/home/430d81

Thanks, it really helps to see it instead of trying to picture it all in my head! Is this your first cycle using OPKs? If not, what is your usual pattern? Test again today and report back! But I think if you're still getting OPKs, you haven't O'ed yet. At the very least, there's a good chance you haven't, which means you need to keep HIO at least EOD.

E&B0811 · December 2013

RedTwizzlers said:

E&B0811 said:

Thanks, Red! I did not test again yesterday. I am trying to test again today but it is so hard to wait that long to pee! Here's a link to my chart: https://fertilityfriend.com/home/430d81

Thanks, it really helps to see it instead of trying to picture it all in my head! Is this your first cycle using OPKs? If not, what is your usual pattern? Test again today and report back! But I think if you're still getting OPKs, you haven't O'ed yet. At the very least, there's a good chance you haven't, which means you need to keep HIO at least EOD.

Thanks! I've been using OPKs for almost a year. My usual pattern is 3 days of positives. Twice I've had 4 days of positives. I'll try to test in an hour or so and report back.

Maupjen · December 2013

RedTwizzlers said:

Maupjen said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 7

CD/DPO: CD 24/ DPO 11

Can I just __actually resist POAS to avoid disappointment__ already?!:

Signs/Symptoms: I'm on progesterone supplementation for the first time. I already had terrible PMS previously but this is awful. I'm incredibly tired. I took two naps yesterday. I'm breaking out. I know all these symptoms are from the progesterone but it's just making me crazy. This morning I woke up with definite cramping so I feel it may only be a matter of time.

Explain your Crazy here: My chart looks pretty but I know it is also likely the progesterone keeping my temps up. I typically have a shorter luteal phase. I've tested way too many times already. I tested at 7 dpo to test out my hcg trigger and it was already negative. I tested at 9, 10, and now 11 dpo. I don't know why I'm torturing myself but I have no self control. I felt so zen going into this cycle but the crazy has returned!

Yeah, the progestrone will keep your temps up and give you a pretty chart, regardless of whether or not you're pg. I've never taken it but it must make the MF much worse in so many ways! Sorry about the BFNs

((hugs)) Do you have a beta scheduled? Usually you won't get AF until after you stop the progesterone, since the progesterone keeps AF from coming.

No beta, they just want me to test at 14 dpo. They have not told me when to stop progesterone. I assume I stop it if I get another BFN on Wednesday.

LaRomana09 · December 2013

Can I hop on???

Crazy level from 1-10: 7

CD/DPO: 15/2?

Can I just ______ already?!: Stop obsessing over my chart

Signs/Symptoms: +OPK on CD 11 early in the day and peaked by evening, so I expected to O on CD 12, but then CD 13 temp went down ever so slightly. Now it's looking like I will get CHs for CD 13, but I usually O the day after I get a +OPK or sometimes the same day.

Explain your Crazy here: So I guess I'm wondering if you think there is any chance I actually O'd on CD 12 and the progesterone just hadn't built up enough to cause a temp rise. I guess technically it dropped, but with a thermometer that only reads to the tenth, I consider those 2 temps almost the same

I'm pretty sure I O'd at some point, so it's not a big deal, but I like to know how many DPO I am so I can adjust my crazy accordingly, KWIM?

LaRomana09 · December 2013

@msamandapants I agree with others, I would go with the earlier temp. FWIW, that temp still looks nicely above your CL. Also, it looks like we are O buddies. :x

E&B0811 · December 2013

I only made it 30 minutes...negative. Stark white negative. So, of course, now I am worried that I didn't hold it long enough and this is a false negative. Ha! But, whateves, I'll take it.

MsAmandaPants · December 2013

@redtwizzlers @gscoville @laromana09 @kmw08 thanks, loves. Your answers were as I expected. Thanks for confirming! xoxo

FishyMom · December 2013

Crazy level from 1-10: 9

CD/DPO: unknown...

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Can I just ______ already?!: get AF to come and take me out of my misery already

Signs/Symptoms: I have been having my normal AF is coming tomorrow craps for the past 5 days... Where the hell is she???

Explain your Crazy here: I MC in mid October... I am waiting to start my FET but AF has to come first, and I have not had AF since my d&c.. So frustrated. I will be calling my RE tomorrow to see if there is anything I can do to get my cycle under way anyways. I am sure the answer will be no, but I need to feel like I am doing something. Goodness I needed to get that out!

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

LaRomana09 said:

Can I hop on???

Crazy level from 1-10: 7

CD/DPO: 15/2?

Can I just ______ already?!: Stop obsessing over my chart

Signs/Symptoms: +OPK on CD 11 early in the day and peaked by evening, so I expected to O on CD 12, but then CD 13 temp went down ever so slightly. Now it's looking like I will get CHs for CD 13, but I usually O the day after I get a +OPK or sometimes the same day.

Explain your Crazy here: So I guess I'm wondering if you think there is any chance I actually O'd on CD 12 and the progesterone just hadn't built up enough to cause a temp rise. I guess technically it dropped, but with a thermometer that only reads to the tenth, I consider those 2 temps almost the same
I'm pretty sure I O'd at some point, so it's not a big deal, but I like to know how many DPO I am so I can adjust my crazy accordingly, KWIM?

I thought you weren't temping?!?! Did you fall off the wagon? lol

I wonder why your temp on CD11 is so high, is there any reason you can think of? I would say it looks like CD13 is O date. Even though you usually have a different OPK pattern...sometimes I've had cycles that have deviated quite a bit from my "normal" OPK pattern. I dunno. I say CD13. And yes, unfortunately, I do know what you mean about wanting to adjust your crazy accordingly, lol. Hopefully your O date will become clearer with time, too. Usually a few LP temps make it easier to see where the shift is.

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

E&B0811 said:

I only made it 30 minutes...negative. Stark white negative. So, of course, now I am worried that I didn't hold it long enough and this is a false negative. Ha! But, whateves, I'll take it.

Well it's not really about how long you hold it for, it's about how concentrated your urine is. Was it super clear like water? If it was, it might be a false negative, I guess. I say test again later tonight, and then keep testing tomorrow. I'll be stalking your chart to see!

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

Ashris13 said:

Crazy level from 1-10: 9

CD/DPO: unknown... .

Can I just ______ already?!: get AF to come and take me out of my misery already

Signs/Symptoms: I have been having my normal AF is coming tomorrow craps for the past 5 days... Where the hell is she???

Explain your Crazy here: I MC in mid October... I am waiting to start my FET but AF has to come first, and I have not had AF since my d&c.. So frustrated. I will be calling my RE tomorrow to see if there is anything I can do to get my cycle under way anyways. I am sure the answer will be no, but I need to feel like I am doing something. Goodness I needed to get that out!

Ugh, that is so frustrating. ((hugs)) I hope AF gets here soon! **kicks ashris13's ute** Come on, get with the program!

LaRomana09 · December 2013

RedTwizzlers said:

LaRomana09 said:
*snip*

I thought you weren't temping?!?! Did you fall off the wagon? lol

I wonder why your temp on CD11 is so high, is there any reason you can think of? I would say it looks like CD13 is O date. Even though you usually have a different OPK pattern...sometimes I've had cycles that have deviated quite a bit from my "normal" OPK pattern. I dunno. I say CD13. And yes, unfortunately, I do know what you mean about wanting to adjust your crazy accordingly, lol. Hopefully your O date will become clearer with time, too. Usually a few LP temps make it easier to see where the shift is.

I'm not...and I did. :P

I was hoping to just temp for a few days to confirm O (hoping it would be more straightforward) because I have acupuncture tomorrow and I was hoping to be able to tell her how many DPO I am. No reason that I can think of for CD 11 being high, but it's not really an out-of-the-ordinary temp for me...I occasionally get temps like that before O. I think it stands out more bc I have only a handful of temps before O, and also my post-O temps are lower than usual. Thanks Dr. Twizzlers, I will go with CD 13 and plan my crazy from there!

RedTwizzlers · December 2013

LaRomana09 said:

RedTwizzlers said:

LaRomana09 said:
*snip*

I thought you weren't temping?!?! Did you fall off the wagon? lol

I wonder why your temp on CD11 is so high, is there any reason you can think of? I would say it looks like CD13 is O date. Even though you usually have a different OPK pattern...sometimes I've had cycles that have deviated quite a bit from my "normal" OPK pattern. I dunno. I say CD13. And yes, unfortunately, I do know what you mean about wanting to adjust your crazy accordingly, lol. Hopefully your O date will become clearer with time, too. Usually a few LP temps make it easier to see where the shift is.

I'm not...and I did. :P
I was hoping to just temp for a few days to confirm O (hoping it would be more straightforward) because I have acupuncture tomorrow and I was hoping to be able to tell her how many DPO I am. No reason that I can think of for CD 11 being high, but it's not really an out-of-the-ordinary temp for me...I occasionally get temps like that before O. I think it stands out more bc I have only a handful of temps before O, and also my post-O temps are lower than usual. Thanks Dr. Twizzlers, I will go with CD 13 and plan my crazy from there!

Bwahahaha!! You cannot contain the crazy, la! Embrace it!! I will be stalking you like whoa the next few days to see what happens!

E&B0811 · December 2013

RedTwizzlers said:

E&B0811 said:

I only made it 30 minutes...negative. Stark white negative. So, of course, now I am worried that I didn't hold it long enough and this is a false negative. Ha! But, whateves, I'll take it.

Well it's not really about how long you hold it for, it's about how concentrated your urine is. Was it super clear like water? If it was, it might be a false negative, I guess. I say test again later tonight, and then keep testing tomorrow. I'll be stalking your chart to see!

No, not like water. More like lemonade. (So gross. Sorry!). Thanks for the insight!

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