At his age, an automatic time out for 2 minutes. Then talk about using gentle hands and being nice. Have him say sorry and hug. He probably doesn't have the verbal skills to express what he's frustrated with, so he just hits. My daughter went through it, except she was a biter! It's most likely just a phase that he'll grow out of...you just have to wait it out!
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If my DD hits, we (gently of course) "hit" her arm back (its really more like a nuge). We tell her "no hitting". If she keeps hitting we spank her. If she still does it she has to go to her room and sit in her bed. She got the point after about a week. Now we have 2 rules. no biting, and no hitting. She understands just fine.
DD does this sometimes as well. DEFINITELY a frustration issue on her end...
If I'm holding her I immediately set her down. Same with DH.
If she doesn't and we aren't holding her she goes in the PNP for a 15 second timeout then she comes out.
Just be consistent in what you do and they will learn. DD does it way less than she used to. I've telling her to 'use her words' and 'hitting hurts, please don't.'
Hitting your kid to teach them not to hit - brilliant. Ahem.
Anyway, DD is 22 months and does this when she is overtired/overstimulated. In addition to just trying to watch for these situations, we will put her down if we're holding her, tell her firmly and seriously "we don't hit, that hurts," and have recently had some success with "time out" in the form of having her go sit in a specific chair for just a minute, more as a way for her to cool down than as punishment. Then I'll usually ask her "do we hit?" and she'll say no, and I'll ask her "can you tell daddy/grandma/the dog you're sorry?" and she does.
It is an age-appropriate thing, as they have more emotions and thoughts than they know how to handle or express. I think we, the parents, just have to stay calm and not make the situation worse by getting mad, respond to it consistently. I also think it helps sometimes to talk about it outside of the moment, like when everything is going great and LO is happy and calm, maybe you are reading a book or something and can mention "do we hit people? No. Do we use gentle hands? Yes. Show mommy how you use gentle hands," etc.
If my DD hits, we (gently of course) "hit" her arm back (its really more like a nuge). We tell her "no hitting". If she keeps hitting we spank her. If she still does it she has to go to her room and sit in her bed. She got the point after about a week. Now we have 2 rules. no biting, and no hitting. She understands just fine.
I...I just...are you freaking serious? Are you planning on biting her back if she bites as well?
If my DD hits, we (gently of course) "hit" her arm back (its really more like a nuge). We tell her "no hitting". If she keeps hitting we spank her. If she still does it she has to go to her room and sit in her bed. She got the point after about a week. Now we have 2 rules. no biting, and no hitting. She understands just fine.
Yeah, teaching her not to hit by hitting her is totally logical. Great parenting.
Shit, I didn't realize the way to discourage behaviors is to model the behavior! Sweet! I'm going to go home tonight and scream and yell and kick at my kid and throw my food on the floor. That'll teach em!
SO my 2 yr old has started to hit out of frustration. How do you deal with the hitting issue?
To address the actual question here, you partly answered your own question - it's out of frustration. Toddlers aren't able to communicate as well as they'd like or have all the independence they crave yet which leads to frustration. What can you do to help with that?
Can you get down on LO's level, make eye contact, repeat what they are trying to tell you? Show they are being heard? Even if you can't give in to the actual demand, can you offer limited acceptable choices so they feel somewhat in control?
Model alternative responses?
"If Johnny is bothering you, you don't have to hit. You can say, 'I don't like that' or walk away or come get mommy."
Yes. Sorry OP, got off topic because really, WTF. Get on his level, speak to him calmly but firmly and tell him "We don't hit. Mommy doesn't like that." Encourage him to use his words, even if they're limited. You could try time outs, but I find them a little hard at this age, so possibly walk away from him for a minute to show that you won't tolerate hitting.
I think there's a book called "hands are not for hitting" that Ive heard recommended a lot. My DS isnt really hitting during his tantrums but he gets excited and kind of flaps his arms and sometimes smacks me in the face if I'm holding him. I usually hold hia hand and say "No, that hurts mommy.". If he does it again then I put him down.
Just to defend for a second. I personally don't hit or spank, but know people who do, and was spanked myself. Whatever. I don't think it is necessarily wrong how someone chooses to discipline- shes not beating up her child. And I was afraid to do things wrong in my house growing up and had great parents.
As for the comment about biting your kid back, there are TONS of parents who actually do that if their kids are biting a lot. Its not as unusual as you think- many kids don't even know it hurts- so it is showing them that it can. again, not something I have done but seen in a lot.
Yes, we use time outs, we yell, we explain, we read books. Depends on the instance.
@janinekrause none of the comments are directed at using spanking as a disciplinary tool in general but the faulty logic in teaching your child not to hit by hitting them. Or not to bite by biting them. It sends a mixed message saying "this is a bad thing for you to do but im doing it to you"
@curlyQ284 - I think it was more judgmental than that. If you posted if spanking was acceptable, 99% of the people here would judge it.
I agree in some ways about mixed messaging but that is a newer philosophy in parenting. People used to not think that way and raised many happy, healthy children.
Whatever. I'll judge. Hitting your kid to try to stop hitting or biting them to stop biting is stupid. I'm not even completely against spanking, on a very limited basis.
I was just defending the poster as people said that was dumb and bad parenting. I understand everyone has different opinions but sometimes the judgments are out of control
I think the main thing with hitting your child after they've hit you is it's an emotional response of anger. And you are teaching your child that it's bad for them to express their frustration or anger in that way (hitting) but it's acceptable for you to do it. Monkey see monkey do and your kid will learn to hit regardless of how many "no hittings" you say.
OP- I think 2 is definitely old enough for timeout. Purposefully hitting anyone (even the dog) is an automatic timeout. If it is an accident when she is frustrated and just throwing her arms around but isn't actually trying to hit me I just move away from her. No point setting your kid up to fail.
Hitting gets a time out. Usually on my lap so that he can't get up and I explain to him that hitting hurts.
DH and I do not discipline hitting with hitting but DS has been spanked. When redirection fails and fails and fails and I'm afraid that what he is doing could seriously maim him it is a last resort. Like flipping over the back of the couch to get to the furniture barricaded antique china cabinet, or attempting to touch the propane wall heaters or pulling out his toy drawers to use as steps to get on top of his dresser.
DS isn't really a biter but did it a couple times around 13 months. Bit me so hard in the spot where my neck and shoulder come together that he broke skin and I lost feeling in my arm and dropped him. Then I cried because I was hurt and scared that I inadvertently hurt him. Then he cried because my crying was scaring him. He hasn't bit me since but dropping your child to prevent biting is not something I'd advocate.
If my DD hits, we (gently of course) "hit" her arm back (its really more like a nuge). We tell her "no hitting". If she keeps hitting we spank her. If she still does it she has to go to her room and sit in her bed. She got the point after about a week. Now we have 2 rules. no biting, and no hitting. She understands just fine.
You spank a baby that isn't even 2 years old? This is the worst thing I've heard in a while. I really wish I didn't sign on to read this today......
Just to defend for a second. I personally don't hit or spank, but know people who do, and was spanked myself. Whatever. I don't think it is necessarily wrong how someone chooses to discipline- shes not beating up her child. And I was afraid to do things wrong in my house growing up and had great parents.
As for the comment about biting your kid back, there are TONS of parents who actually do that if their kids are biting a lot. Its not as unusual as you think- many kids don't even know it hurts- so it is showing them that it can. again, not something I have done but seen in a lot.
Yes, we use time outs, we yell, we explain, we read books. Depends on the instance.
Stop with the judging. Seriously.
Just because "tons" of parents do something doesn't make it not wrong. Geez. I'm all for not judging different parenting styles, especially now that I'm a parent myself and truly understand just how hard it is, but some things are just wrong. From what I've read, before kids are like, 3 years old, they just don't get the whole empathy thing. A mom biting her child doesn't teach him that when he bites other people it hurts them, it teaches him that when mom bites him it hurts him. Of course this might be totally wrong or a generalization and I'm sure some kids are "advanced" in terms of empathy, but still, the logic of hitting to teach not to hit.. boggles my mind. OP, thanks for posting the question. My DS has started hitting and I'm not sure what to do about it. I appreciate all the helpful suggestions!
How about stopping hitting a CHILD, seriously? How is HITTING A CHILD going to teach them HITTING IS BAD, instead of "HITTING IS OKAY, MOMMY DOES IT"!? Really. Please explain this to me. I'm very curious of this logic.
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I was just defending the poster as people said that was dumb and bad parenting. I understand everyone has different opinions but sometimes the judgments are out of control
Sorry not sorry but hitting to get kids not to hit is bad parenting and dumb.
Lots I people=/=not bad parenting.
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I was talking to my MIL about spanking DD for hitting and how it just seemed stupid to me. She disagreed. So I'm glad to see that so many of you find it as stupid as I do.
Also, I'm impressed that time outs work so well for you people. My kid LOVES timeouts. It was a reward somehow for her so it was not a good consequence.
Like I said earlier, I don't hit or spank. But that's me. I have done a swat on the hand before if she went to do something dangerous. I don't think a swat/nudge (like poster said she did)= hitting.
Sometimes I just wonder if the radical shift in the parenting community towards more talking, reading books, speaking softly, worrying about tramatizing them has gone way too far. Because I can tell you I know many many many parents who approach parenting that way, and their kids are all nightmares- they don't listen, are disrespectful, talk back, etc. Maybe your kids aren't but a lot are.
Example of going too far with the fear of ruining their lives- I can't figure out what study/research the person did who said putting a kid in a time out in their room is going to ruin them for good.
@fredalina As for the biting example- funny that you compared a needle to biting. You WERE explaining what pain felt like and saying that helped her understand - just because you didn't give her the shot doesnt change that. Not understanding that reasoning. But I am not going to have my kid get kicked out of daycare, because I want to be nice about it.
Well, sometimes people don't have the time it takes to teach it nicely- with books, etc. Yes, my friends kid almost got kicked out of daycare- they couldn't afford for it to happen. The husband bit him back one day. and it ended. Harsh? Maybe. The reality was they didn't have the option of him not going to daycare.
Well, sometimes people don't have the time it takes to teach it nicely- with books, etc. Yes, my friends kid almost got kicked out of daycare- they couldn't afford for it to happen. The husband bit him back one day. and it ended. Harsh? Maybe. The reality was they didn't have the option of him not going to daycare.
You don't have time to parent? That sounds lovely. Well, then, if people don't have the time, then I guess it's okay...
Some people are just that THICK!!! I can't!!! I have a 14 & never in the 14 yrs I had to hit, slap,bite to make a point. Just because he did.... sigh!!!
Well, sometimes people don't have the time it takes to teach it nicely- with books, etc. Yes, my friends kid almost got kicked out of daycare- they couldn't afford for it to happen. The husband bit him back one day. and it ended. Harsh? Maybe. The reality was they didn't have the option of him not going to daycare.
If your kid punched a kid in the face, would you punch your kid? If he threw a kid from atop the monkey bars, would you climb up and push your child off? Where does this shit end? You don't teach a kid that something is wrong by DEMONSTRATING the behavior.
And for you to say that explaining that a needle hurts like biting is the SAME as biting them is asinine. The child had to experience the pain of the needle. @fredalina used it as an opportunity to make a connection. When my kid jumps off the couch and cracks his head after I've told him to stop? I say "See, that hurt and that's why I told you to stop." That's not the same as pushing him off the GD couch to prove a point.
I am curious if all of your parents sat down and read books like hands are not for hitting. How did they handle these situations? I got swatted, I got spanked here and there, I got yelled at. They were/are amazing parents(my mom is only still alive) and we were so close growing up. Of course, I think they could have handled situations differently or more calmly sometimes but I felt loved, cared for, trusted them, and was happy. If I was doing what they did and posted here, people would all tell me I was a bad parent, shouldn't have had kids, etc. REALLY? There is a difference between not handling a situation in the most ideal way and bad parenting.
I don't hit or spank or bite. What I am saying is to be a little more open about how you look at people. Is my friends husband who bit his kid back one day a bad father? Actually hes a great father who made a choice that he thought would stop it. Sure, they tried other stuff first but it didn't work. Do I judge him for biting his kid once? No. Would I judge if he beat up his kid or hit him hard? Yes.
I am curious if all of your parents sat down and read books like hands are not for hitting. How did they handle these situations? I got swatted, I got spanked here and there, I got yelled at. They were/are amazing parents(my mom is only still alive) and we were so close growing up. Of course, I think they could have handled situations differently or more calmly sometimes but I felt loved, cared for, trusted them, and was happy. If I was doing what they did and posted here, people would all tell me I was a bad parent, shouldn't have had kids, etc. REALLY? There is a difference between not handling a situation in the most ideal way and bad parenting.
I don't hit or spank or bite. What I am saying is to be a little more open about how you look at people. Is my friends husband who bit his kid back one day a bad father? Actually hes a great father who made a choice that he thought would stop it. Sure, they tried other stuff first but it didn't work. Do I judge him for biting his kid once? No. Would I judge if he beat up his kid or hit him hard? Yes.
It's a good thing you're the person in the world /sarcasm You DO realize that for many things, we turned out well DESPITE how we were raised. I was raised by a narcissistic mother with borderline personality disorder who has no friends and can't sustain a relationship or maintain a job or home and YET, I am happily married with friends who love me and I am exceptionally well adjusted and responsible. I didn't grow up to be who I am BECAUSE of her.
ETA: You think hitting is worse than biting, huh? Tell that to me the first time your kid gets hit vs the first time they get bitten. Biting is a way bigger deal than you're making it out to be.
@fredalina- how can you decide what my friends kid decided and what kind of kid he is? He has empathy, he is a sweet kid. Don't decide someone turns into a horrible kid and is going to ruin the planet because someone bit them one day.
My little sister, who is now 8, was a biters when she was a toddler. My dad and stepmom are, in my opinion, lazy parents. My dad decided to bite her back. You know what she learned? To bite and then run away. A ten year old understands that he's getting spanked as a consequence to a bad behavior, and learns to associate misbehavior with punishment. A two year old doesn't...they just learn to be afraid.
Kids get bit in daycare everyday. Biting is a bigger deal than hitting? Who says?
You said you'd judge a parent who hit their kid but not a parent who bites their kid. You tell me if you'd want ANYONE else to do EITHER of those things to your child.
Re: Hitting
If I'm holding her I immediately set her down. Same with DH.
If she doesn't and we aren't holding her she goes in the PNP for a 15 second timeout then she comes out.
Just be consistent in what you do and they will learn. DD does it way less than she used to. I've telling her to 'use her words' and 'hitting hurts, please don't.'
Hitting your kid to teach them not to hit - brilliant. Ahem.
Anyway, DD is 22 months and does this when she is overtired/overstimulated. In addition to just trying to watch for these situations, we will put her down if we're holding her, tell her firmly and seriously "we don't hit, that hurts," and have recently had some success with "time out" in the form of having her go sit in a specific chair for just a minute, more as a way for her to cool down than as punishment. Then I'll usually ask her "do we hit?" and she'll say no, and I'll ask her "can you tell daddy/grandma/the dog you're sorry?" and she does.
It is an age-appropriate thing, as they have more emotions and thoughts than they know how to handle or express. I think we, the parents, just have to stay calm and not make the situation worse by getting mad, respond to it consistently. I also think it helps sometimes to talk about it outside of the moment, like when everything is going great and LO is happy and calm, maybe you are reading a book or something and can mention "do we hit people? No. Do we use gentle hands? Yes. Show mommy how you use gentle hands," etc.
Just to defend for a second. I personally don't hit or spank, but know people who do, and was spanked myself. Whatever. I don't think it is necessarily wrong how someone chooses to discipline- shes not beating up her child. And I was afraid to do things wrong in my house growing up and had great parents.
As for the comment about biting your kid back, there are TONS of parents who actually do that if their kids are biting a lot. Its not as unusual as you think- many kids don't even know it hurts- so it is showing them that it can. again, not something I have done but seen in a lot.
Yes, we use time outs, we yell, we explain, we read books. Depends on the instance.
Stop with the judging. Seriously.
@curlyQ284 - I think it was more judgmental than that. If you posted if spanking was acceptable, 99% of the people here would judge it.
I agree in some ways about mixed messaging but that is a newer philosophy in parenting. People used to not think that way and raised many happy, healthy children.
DH and I do not discipline hitting with hitting but DS has been spanked. When redirection fails and fails and fails and I'm afraid that what he is doing could seriously maim him it is a last resort. Like flipping over the back of the couch to get to the furniture barricaded antique china cabinet, or attempting to touch the propane wall heaters or pulling out his toy drawers to use as steps to get on top of his dresser.
DS isn't really a biter but did it a couple times around 13 months. Bit me so hard in the spot where my neck and shoulder come together that he broke skin and I lost feeling in my arm and dropped him. Then I cried because I was hurt and scared that I inadvertently hurt him. Then he cried because my crying was scaring him. He hasn't bit me since but dropping your child to prevent biting is not something I'd advocate.
From what I've read, before kids are like, 3 years old, they just don't get the whole empathy thing. A mom biting her child doesn't teach him that when he bites other people it hurts them, it teaches him that when mom bites him it hurts him. Of course this might be totally wrong or a generalization and I'm sure some kids are "advanced" in terms of empathy, but still, the logic of hitting to teach not to hit.. boggles my mind.
OP, thanks for posting the question. My DS has started hitting and I'm not sure what to do about it. I appreciate all the helpful suggestions!
How about stopping hitting a CHILD, seriously? How is HITTING A CHILD going to teach them HITTING IS BAD, instead of "HITTING IS OKAY, MOMMY DOES IT"!? Really. Please explain this to me. I'm very curious of this logic.
Do you see how ass backward that is? @janinekrause
ETA I see parenting has been liked. @turner215 do you have a response?
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
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Lots I people=/=not bad parenting.
Harry Styles = Life Ruiner
There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
J. 1.14.13 my reason for breathing
Also, I'm impressed that time outs work so well for you people. My kid LOVES timeouts. It was a reward somehow for her so it was not a good consequence.
Like I said earlier, I don't hit or spank. But that's me. I have done a swat on the hand before if she went to do something dangerous. I don't think a swat/nudge (like poster said she did)= hitting.
Sometimes I just wonder if the radical shift in the parenting community towards more talking, reading books, speaking softly, worrying about tramatizing them has gone way too far. Because I can tell you I know many many many parents who approach parenting that way, and their kids are all nightmares- they don't listen, are disrespectful, talk back, etc. Maybe your kids aren't but a lot are.
Example of going too far with the fear of ruining their lives- I can't figure out what study/research the person did who said putting a kid in a time out in their room is going to ruin them for good.
@fredalina As for the biting example- funny that you compared a needle to biting. You WERE explaining what pain felt like and saying that helped her understand - just because you didn't give her the shot doesnt change that. Not understanding that reasoning. But I am not going to have my kid get kicked out of daycare, because I want to be nice about it.
Well, sometimes people don't have the time it takes to teach it nicely- with books, etc. Yes, my friends kid almost got kicked out of daycare- they couldn't afford for it to happen. The husband bit him back one day. and it ended. Harsh? Maybe. The reality was they didn't have the option of him not going to daycare.
You win for dumbest excuse I've heard today.
I am curious if all of your parents sat down and read books like hands are not for hitting. How did they handle these situations? I got swatted, I got spanked here and there, I got yelled at. They were/are amazing parents(my mom is only still alive) and we were so close growing up. Of course, I think they could have handled situations differently or more calmly sometimes but I felt loved, cared for, trusted them, and was happy. If I was doing what they did and posted here, people would all tell me I was a bad parent, shouldn't have had kids, etc. REALLY? There is a difference between not handling a situation in the most ideal way and bad parenting.
I don't hit or spank or bite. What I am saying is to be a little more open about how you look at people. Is my friends husband who bit his kid back one day a bad father? Actually hes a great father who made a choice that he thought would stop it. Sure, they tried other stuff first but it didn't work. Do I judge him for biting his kid once? No. Would I judge if he beat up his kid or hit him hard? Yes.
@fredalina- how can you decide what my friends kid decided and what kind of kid he is? He has empathy, he is a sweet kid. Don't decide someone turns into a horrible kid and is going to ruin the planet because someone bit them one day.