Do you pay her any rent or do you pay any utility bills? Maybe cooking & buying groceries in exchange for a roof over your heads is what she expects...
She doesn't pay for anything. Her ex husband does since their divorce 7 years ago. (he cheated on her) and he will continue paying the mortgage until the house is paid off and she also get an alimony check from him each month
This means nothing. It's still her house. Also when the court awards alimony it is usually warranted, as in she built a life with this man, raised a child with him and deserves to continue living the same lifestyle she was when she was married because she supported him all of those years until he cheated on her. Alimony isn't free money.
Also, It seems to me, that the food she eats of yours and her snide comments are a small price to pay to actually have a place to live.
Also you can't work because you share a car? Why don't you take the bus or get rides with him when he goes to work. This is an odd excuse, lots of people work and don't have cars.
There is no such thing as a bus where I live. And he works an hour away from our house. It would just be too complicated to deal with conflicting hours. He doesn't get home until 1-3 a.m sometimes. So should I just wait around until he can come pick me up? No.
And I'm sorry but I completely disagree with a "small price to pay" when someone is rude NON STOP when I do nothing but listen to her cry and bitch every single night about her ex husband and his new wife. Over and over again. I provide her with COMFORT and advice. I clean her house ( which I don't mind doing, it keeps me busy and is good practice for when we do get our own place). As much as I can't stand her I still treat her with so much respect it's disgusting, but you're telling me it's ok for her to take a giant shit on me daily because I am living in her house? She expects me to give her my dogs ANTIBIOTICS because he was sick because she would rather spend money on a new purse and to get her hair colored. I don't care if I am living in her house or not. WE take care of HER and I am also a grown woman who she needs to learn to treat with the same respect I have given her. Calling me a bad wife for something so stupid is NOT ok. She throws snarky little comments about me all the time and she is even worse to her own son. You are allowed to think whatever you want, but I absolutely do not agree with you when you say her snide comments are a small price to pay. She doesn't do anything to earn the right to talk to me like that. If I sat around the house not providing any service to her then sure I would understand. But i do everything around the house. For God sakes I even do her laundry! If anything, I should be the one making the snide, abusive comments to her.
What is wrong with you? She's letting you live for free at her house. You're damn right you should be doing chores and laundry.....YOU DON'T WORK! This is so bizarre.
Maybe she's being snide and rude to you because she can see that you're clearly ungrateful for letting you stay there. And maybe she thinks she's entitled to your dog's medicine because, you know, you don't pay any rent! If I were you I'd chip in any way I could.
You seem very entitled to me.
Lol, you're telling me that her dogs health is less important than a purse? Because thats the reason she couldn't afford to go to the vet in the first place. Did I ever ONCE complain and say I shouldn't have to do chores around the house? No. I said I do EVERYTHING around the house. All I'm asking for is RESPECT
I just don't see your logic in this at all. We buy her groceries, cook dinner (which she never leaves any left for anyone else ever) clean her house. And you're telling me I should sabotage my dogs health because shes so broke buying her bottles of vodka every other day that she can't take her OWN dog to the vet and get him taken care of? Are you telling me it's my job to take care of her dog too?
Clearly she and her dog survived before you started living there. You're not even taking into account the fact that you're also invading her space when it comes to her behaviour.
Also you keep changing your story to make her sound worse and worse. First she she couldn't afford medicine for her dog because she got her hair done and got a new phone, now it's that she's buying bottles of vodka.
And you were complaining about doing chores around the house. I mean you even do HER laundry.
Anyway I'm done arguing with you, you asked for people's thoughts on the situation and I gave you mine. Sorry it wasn't the answer you wanted to hear.
Its not that it wasn't want I wanted to hear. It's that I don't agree. And still, no, I'm not complaining. Just stating facts. I do everything and am only looking for a little respect.
P.s Her dog has been ill since I moved in. He couldn't even walk on his back legs anymore. It wasn't until about 3 weeks ago that she finally took him to the vet after a week of throwing up and bloody stool. So I blame a lot of different things on why she cant afford to take her dog to the vet. And none of that has anything to do with me or my husband. I just didn't feel like adding every detail in since I already wrote a novel that most like no one really completely read. I know I wouldn't have.
I asked for thoughts and you gave me yours. I didn't agree with yours, that is all. Thanks for reading anyways.
@Rocknroll64 laid down some truth in this thread. Vent all you want, we all do, but you don't work and live rent free in her house, so you aren't getting as much sympathy as I think you expected.
Also, from her perspective, you say you'll be out in a few months, but it sounds like that's iffy. So on top of sharing her space with two adults, she is looking at the possibility of having a newborn around. I realize it's her grandkid but it's still a huge imposition. Food for thought.
Do you pay her any rent or do you pay any utility bills? Maybe cooking & buying groceries in exchange for a roof over your heads is what she expects...
She doesn't pay for anything. Her ex husband does since their divorce 7 years ago. (he cheated on her) and he will continue paying the mortgage until the house is paid off and she also get an alimony check from him each month
This means nothing. It's still her house. Also when the court awards alimony it is usually warranted, as in she built a life with this man, raised a child with him and deserves to continue living the same lifestyle she was when she was married because she supported him all of those years until he cheated on her. Alimony isn't free money.
Also, It seems to me, that the food she eats of yours and her snide comments are a small price to pay to actually have a place to live.
Also you can't work because you share a car? Why don't you take the bus or get rides with him when he goes to work. This is an odd excuse, lots of people work and don't have cars.
My DH & I own a home with no mortgage on it, we rent it out, we do charge a monthly rent plus late fees.
Just because there's no mortgage (or she's not paying it), don't expect to live there for free.
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One major thing sticks out to me, in the comments you talk about how you buy her groceries but then complain about how she eats all of your food in your OP. As for left overs, maybe you should cook bigger portions. I also can't believe you had the balls to yell at her for changing the heat IN HER HOUSE! Wow! Remind me not to ever invite you over! I'd hate to be yelled at for trying to be comfortable in my own house. It's time to move. I don't give two shits about what your H is trying to accomplish with the military, it's time to be grow ups and realize you need to start putting supporting yourselves first. If you can afford your dreams and still support yourselves then by all means go after them. And since you're living rent free I don't see why you couldn't afford a cheap clunker to at least get you back and forth to a job. Or look for an apartment in the town that your H works in to make sharing more feasible.
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Okay, OP. I'm not sure what you want everyone to say.... it's MIL's house, you're living there rent free and you admit that you need to find a new living situation. So find one. Everyone agrees that it would be better for everyone.
It's her house and I'm guessing there's nothing you can do about how she talks to you in it. If you don't like it... leave.
I don't know if you can read or not but we have been working on leaving for a few months now. I also said in previous posts that if nothing moves forward with the Army in this next week we WILL be looking for a new home and have already been looking online for possible places.
Ok then fine... all you can do is wait it out, right? I said in my first post that I agree it totally sucks.
Look OP I was supportive in my original response even though I couldn't help thinking "not your house, deal or leave" But you can't complain about people being rude to you, if you're going to be fvcking rude. Asking an obviously literate person if they can read is about as rude as it gets. In any event, you're clearly not capable of making that call, since your reading comprehension is a big fat fail, at least in this post.
If you don't pay rent, regardless of where her money comes from, and you live in her house....well yes you're going to have to clean and cook and contribute somehow. Sorry that it sucks, but that is how it works.
Well I can somewhat relate to your situation. My mil lives with us because she fell and broke her hip because she doesn't take care of herself and is morbidly obese and diabetic. And has bad knees. So she moved in with us and has since tried to take over MY house. She's a hoarder by nature and that wasn't happening when she came to my house. (I'm like the white glove). Since we found out we were pregnant she tries to take over everything. I have to explain over and over that thanks for your opinion but this is my child. She also eats everything in the house. I mean everything. Luckily she buys groceries but we will buy donuts or something and she will eat them all in two days! Also she doesn't cook. Well I let her help with dinner before and she burned bread sticks. So she no longer gets to help. I think you really need to just move on. You can't live with that stress and like my husband says to me is stop worrying about his mom. She doesn't want to help herself and eat better and take care of herself then why should we worry. You have to become important sometime. Your baby has to become important enough to not care about toxic people.
Well I can somewhat relate to your situation. My mil lives with us because she fell and broke her hip because she doesn't take care of herself and is morbidly obese and diabetic. And has bad knees. So she moved in with us and has since tried to take over MY house. She's a hoarder by nature and that wasn't happening when she came to my house. (I'm like the white glove). Since we found out we were pregnant she tries to take over everything. I have to explain over and over that thanks for your opinion but this is my child. She also eats everything in the house. I mean everything. Luckily she buys groceries but we will buy donuts or something and she will eat them all in two days! Also she doesn't cook. Well I let her help with dinner before and she burned bread sticks. So she no longer gets to help. I think you really need to just move on. You can't live with that stress and like my husband says to me is stop worrying about his mom. She doesn't want to help herself and eat better and take care of herself then why should we worry. You have to become important sometime. Your baby has to become important enough to not care about toxic people.
yeah only in your situation, your MIL is living with you and that is the crucial piece here.
Well I can somewhat relate to your situation. My mil lives with us because she fell and broke her hip because she doesn't take care of herself and is morbidly obese and diabetic. And has bad knees. So she moved in with us and has since tried to take over MY house. She's a hoarder by nature and that wasn't happening when she came to my house. (I'm like the white glove). Since we found out we were pregnant she tries to take over everything. I have to explain over and over that thanks for your opinion but this is my child. She also eats everything in the house. I mean everything. Luckily she buys groceries but we will buy donuts or something and she will eat them all in two days! Also she doesn't cook. Well I let her help with dinner before and she burned bread sticks. So she no longer gets to help. I think you really need to just move on. You can't live with that stress and like my husband says to me is stop worrying about his mom. She doesn't want to help herself and eat better and take care of herself then why should we worry. You have to become important sometime. Your baby has to become important enough to not care about toxic people.
yeah only in your situation, your MIL is living with you and that is the crucial piece here.
Exactly. The OP is like your MIL and living for free and expecting the house to magically become her's since her MIL doesn't pay the mortgage either.
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If your husband is gone all day and working until 1am-3am to try and support your family, it sounds to me like you aren't doing anything to pull your weight. Not every family can have one provider, and it sounds like maybe you need to start working to help support your growing family.
As others have said, and you then claim to already know the Armed Forces have been making lots of cuts, and enlisting is proving to be difficult for many families.
Ok, so I get where you're coming from in the need to vent. Sometimes we just all need to get our feelings out on the table before we explode and do something stupid. BUT everyone was supportive and gave great advice until you started taking your anger out on them for stating the TRUTH.
We have been living in my mother's in-law apartment in their house since We started renovating our townhouse in March. We then sold the townhouse, and will be moving back to my husband's hometown this weekend. For a short period of time, while we repair our credit and get back on our feet, my MIL will be letting us stay with her. Since we moved in with my mom, my husband has continued to bring in his paycheck to cover whatever we could, and I sold off 2 horses to cut costs and bring in some cushion money, but our credit is shot after 3 years of me being laid off often.
Note: I was the breadwinner before our daughter was born, my connections got my husband his job, I did what I could to support us when he wanted to try out a different job with lower pay but better hours. After our daughter was born, and I was laid off for the first time, we decided it was time for him to go back to the other job and make more money so we could survive. I sold off what I could, he sold his car, I sold one of my cars, gave him the other to drive, and we have been driving one of my mother's spare vehicles for a few years now.
We are very bit grateful for every single scrap of help our families have given us. When we moved back in with my mom, I took over a good bit of the child/household/cleaning duties since there are still 3 kids living at home. I shuttle to sports, events, school, pick-up when someone is sick, cook, clean as I can, and am just in general on-call 24/7 as needed. My mother and I don't always get along, but I've grown wise enough to not bite the hand that feeds. She has given us everything she can, which has been alot, and we have no way of paying her back, and that's an understood situation. But I do feel the need to vent sometimes, so instead of making an ass of myself on the internet, or blowing up at a person, I go have a good poop shoveling fit at the barn, toss around some hay, groom my horse, have a good cry and go for a ride.
What I'm saying is while we can all understand some of your situation, you need a better outlet for your issues. Something productive. And explain to me again why you aren't currently employed? I don't think I read anywhere that you have another dependent to care for... and while I understand the current job market is seriously lacking in what sounds to be a rural area that you live in... there are often unconventional ways of making money to supplement your families needs. Find something to get you out of the house. Don't have a car? Find a way to get a beater, or get to walking...
@JKBMA2014: I'm glad that your siggy has your age in it, otherwise, after reading your whole original post and all of the comments, I would have been firmly convinced you were simply a petulant 16 year old girl. I must say, if you speak to your MIL the way you speak to people on this board, I can't see how you expect her to respect you. Respect is earned.....not something that you are simply entitled to. You also are not entitled to a free place to live with no responsibility whatsoever.
My husband and I lived with one car for over a year. We both worked (an hour apart) and I was going to school 30 minutes in the opposite direction. The thing is, we didn't have a choice, so we made it work. It sounds to me like you are full of excuses. If you want to change your living situation, which I agree that you desperately need to, you need to adjust your perspective. Suck it up and get a job, or stop complaining and be grateful that you know someone willing to take you in.
Also, I'm appalled that you think you have more rights to things in this woman's house than she does. Regardless of where HER money comes from, she is the one paying for the heat, so she can do what she wants.
Your comment to @Kitchencolors is disgusting. You should be ashamed and apologize.....also, you should recognize that she had a ton of grace in not flaming you for that, and maybe you should gain some of that with regard to your MIL.
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but it sounds to me like your MIL needs serious help. she's obviously an alcoholic, and from the sound of it she's going to continue drinking herself to death when you leave if she doesn't get it. she's a sick woman.
Just read through this. All I'll say is that it makes me realize how much more I can do around the house for my MIL who is letting us stay with her and FIL while we get on our feet in our new town. I think I've been so caught up in "our" issues and finding a house/job/etc that I haven't helped out enough. So while I agree with PP's that a) you need to get a job wherever you can while you still have the energy for it, b) you probably won't be as focused on (or have time for) your MIL's drama if you have something (ie gainful employment) to focus on, and c) your MIL sounds like she needs help, I'd also like to thank you for helping me see how childish and entitled I'VE been acting. I think I've justified it because my MIL makes ignorant comments about others and remarks about my pregnant shape that infuriate me. But the other girls are right: living in MILs home, rent free? The very least we can do (bitchy, dysfunctional MILs or not) is help out as much as possible. And get a job. Quickly Good luck.
Yes I have READ this whole thing.... With that being said you and hubs should be ashamed. Yes she might not be the nicest woman but you owe her big time, end of story. And if your husband is going to re-join the military and you are planning to live on base you better learn very quickly your place (rank) and how to respect others otherwise your life is about to get a whole lot harder as in the military it is a contract that he signs to uphold, not family that will pick you up and brush you off, they don't care how unfair anything is to you or him so maybe the military isn't the place for your family. Just food for thought. Those of us in the military will tell you it isn't a cake walk and you don't get all kinds of subsidies because life is all puppies and rainbows. Your husband will give up a lot as will you to get the things the military gives you. So good luck is the best advice I can give you.
She just got home and just had me get on the ladder and change the batteries in the fire alarms, and dust the a/c unit on the ceiling. Didn't even show the courtesy of at least carrying the F'ing ladder for me. Mind you this woman goes to the gym 5 days a week and does all kind of zumba classes and shit. I'm not trying to sound like a pre-madonna. But I am pregnant and I wasn't exactly comfortable climbing on a wobbly ladder
Why would you do these things? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely baffled as to why you would do these things for a woman you have no respect for. Is she an alpha dog?
ETA: I didn't read through the whole thread before responding. OP sounds like it sucks but you're on her turf. She's a bitch, in her own house. This is how she lives her life. It wouldn't be your problem if you weren't there. Don't worry, I saw your millions of responses "we're working on that" so yes, I am aware you're "working on that." But that's still all the advice I've got.
Ok let me address to everyone who thinks I'm bitching about doing chores around the house. I never complained so you get that far far away from your little brains. I am complaining at the fact that she is verbally abusive towards me and my husband. Where are you ladies missing that? I have repeated it several times in the post. She is a rude fucking bitch. I don't care if I'm living in her house, that does not give her the right to be verbally abusive to me and her own son. We do everything we can to help out since, even thought she lives their rent free as well, we don't pay rent. Shit we even offered to pay for her dogs vet visit because she couldn't afford to. We are not ungrateful. I also gave her my car so she didn't have to pay for a cab to go back and forth to work it. Trust me I know I'm in her house and that's why I ranted on here and not to her. Everything I do for her is in return for her letting is stay with her. Obviously some of you have never lived with an alcoholic who has bipolar disorder and has tried to kill herself twice. She is misery to be around. She will treat everyone around her like shit if she feels like shit. I have a right to botch about her behavior because it IS NOT OK. Period point blank. I don't care if we are in her house. She is abusive to us. This is what you are missing, obviously. It's all day everyday where she belittles me and her son. Although she still does this I still respect her.
Yes I have READ this whole thing.... With that being said you and hubs should be ashamed. Yes she might not be the nicest woman but you owe her big time, end of story. And if your husband is going to re-join the military and you are planning to live on base you better learn very quickly your place (rank) and how to respect others otherwise your life is about to get a whole lot harder as in the military it is a contract that he signs to uphold, not family that will pick you up and brush you off, they don't care how unfair anything is to you or him so maybe the military isn't the place for your family. Just food for thought. Those of us in the military will tell you it isn't a cake walk and you don't get all kinds of subsidies because life is all puppies and rainbows. Your husband will give up a lot as will you to get the things the military gives you. So good luck is the best advice I can give you.
You can take your non sense somewhere else because you lost the point I was trying to make a while back. My husband was already in the military for 3 years before he got discharged for injury. So before you go insulted my husband or myself maybe actually read the whole thread and stop pretending you did.
She just got home and just had me get on the ladder and change the batteries in the fire alarms, and dust the a/c unit on the ceiling. Didn't even show the courtesy of at least carrying the F'ing ladder for me. Mind you this woman goes to the gym 5 days a week and does all kind of zumba classes and shit. I'm not trying to sound like a pre-madonna. But I am pregnant and I wasn't exactly comfortable climbing on a wobbly ladder
Why would you do these things? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely baffled as to why you would do these things for a woman you have no respect for. Is she an alpha dog?
ETA: I didn't read through the whole thread before responding. OP sounds like it sucks but you're on her turf. She's a bitch, in her own house. This is how she lives her life. It wouldn't be your problem if you weren't there. Don't worry, I saw your millions of responses "we're working on that" so yes, I am aware you're "working on that." But that's still all the advice I've got.
Because it's her house. I guess you could say she is alpha dog in her own house. I don't have to the heart to just tell her no.
You might get more sympathy if you stopped insulting people who take the time to reply. You've accused several ladies of not being able to read, or not bothering to read, and you've generally referred to the lot of us as having small brains. Not cool. Stop it.
I thought you didn't have a car. That's why you don't have a job. And your story changed. And you said give you our thoughts. We did. Sorry you didn't like them.
she was using me and my husbands car until she got her own car. Which my husband traded in HIS car for in order for her to get so we didn't have to keep giving her rides
You might get more sympathy if you stopped insulting people who take the time to reply. You've accused several ladies of not being able to read, or not bothering to read, and you've generally referred to the lot of us as having small brains. Not cool. Stop it.
Ok I apologize for insulted some of you. And I'm not doing that because I want or need sympathy.
But it seems like either everyone hasn't read the previous posts as to why I'm hurt by the situation. She treats me and my husband like shit. Period. I do everything I can to help her out since I am living in her house. But that doesn't matter to her. Honestly I could probably sit on my ass and not lift a finger and she probably wouldn't notice. It's the abuse she has towards me and my husband.
I have said my peace. I get it, I'm living in her house so she is free to treat me and my husband however she wants. It's ok for her to eat all the food and leave us with nothing. Even though the food is for everyone, not just her. Shit I will even let her continue to eat right out of the pan! I love other peoples saliva in my food... And then next time she calls me a bad wife or questions the way I do things I'll just tell her she's right. Because you know, it is her house.
The vast majority of people who responded acknowledged that your situation sucks. I'm not sure what else we can do. Your MIL is apparently sick... she's an alcoholic, and you need to move out. We can't make it happen any faster or be any easier.
I know I'm just really freaking frustrated. It's really not your problem.
Edit:changed wording
I appreciate you all acknowledging it. I just wish you could understand this frustration is built on top of a lot of other things. Not just a little bite of food. But that little bite of food triggered so,etching much more than that. It's none of your fault that I live with an alcoholic except for myself. Me and my husband even talked about a job situation to where I could work. Thanks to this thread and some of your thoughts. I might be coming at you guys rudely but I am definitely taking in what you say.. I will take everything you have said into consideration. Maybe I just needed a reality check. I really don't want to argue about it with you guys. We are May mummy's not enemy's. Plus I have enough bitching going on at home
You are probably eligible for more than just living expenses. Here in MD there is a program called WIC - Women Infants Children, where lower income families, even one like your own where you are expecting, can get basic groceries and necessities.
Again, your frustration is understandable, but your outlet is not. Find a better way to get it out without attacking people
As someone who is bipolar and at a low point in my life did want to kill myself. I am glad that the people near me didn't right me off as a miserable botch and complain about me. She has to be in so much pain to want to die. Putting yourself in someone else's shoes some times helps you understand their behavior and while I am not saying her behavior is correct I am going to say that you are way out of line to call her a bitch while living in her home.
Yeah I apologize for taking my frustration out on all of you. It's just non stop stress at home and I need to control it better. There is an outlet and me and my husband are seeing the light. And even though I got pissy with some responses .. it really hit home for me and made me look a little more outside of the box. Maybe getting angry about food is silly. And believe me there were plenty of times where I have told myself "well she's letting me live here its not fair for me to be angry". I guess just running to the kitchen with low blood sugar and then not able to get what I needed because of her just had fuel to the fire. I just mentioned subsidized housing to my husband and surprisingly he was very open to the idea. He was raised with everything handed to him on a silver platter. His dad owned and still owns his own vet clinic. Me not so much so I'm ok with a little help. I guess being so conservative I never thought we would even consider it. But he thinks we should give it a shot. So thanks for suggesting that. Sorry again for my ill comments.
I have said my peace. I get it, I'm living in her house so she is free to treat me and my husband however she wants. It's ok for her to eat all the food and leave us with nothing. Even though the food is for everyone, not just her. Shit I will even let her continue to eat right out of the pan! I love other peoples saliva in my food... And then next time she calls me a bad wife or questions the way I do things I'll just tell her she's right. Because you know, it is her house.
You said you piece. Look, here is how it works on the bump...when you ask others to chime in...which you did, you need to accept that they will chime in. You responded like a fvcking asshole. It is hard to give sympathy at this point, and you did in fact have my sympathy in the beginning.
As someone who is bipolar and at a low point in my life did want to kill myself. I am glad that the people near me didn't right me off as a miserable botch and complain about me. She has to be in so much pain to want to die. Putting yourself in someone else's shoes some times helps you understand their behavior and while I am not saying her behavior is correct I am going to say that you are way out of line to call her a bitch while living in her home.
I was unofficially diagnosed with manic depressive when I was in middle school. My doctor didn't want to put it on record for future purposes. I have been on several medications up until about 2 years ago when I had withdrawal from one of mine and didn't want to put anymore medications in my body. I have been struggling since then to work it out on my own. I have to be around happy people and un awkward situations to feel comfortable with life
And also, get the fuck out. Wait that was already said. Move. She is sick. Let me help you out, when people are mentally ill or substance addicted ill, it helps to imagine them rolling around in a mental wheel chair. Do you expect deaf children to hear? Blind people to see? Paralyzed people to walk? No you don't. You make exceptions and try to help. If the relationship is so bad that you can have zero compassion for her illness (No judgements my mother was a drug addict and my sister and I grew up in foster care, I can't stand her) but if you can't bring yourself to feel for her in some way despite the behaviors secondary to her condition, then you need to leave. For everyone's sake. But for your Husband's sake, I think you two need to talk about getting your MIL help. Even if he says he doesn't care. Hell honestly it would be a relief if my mother died, it was when my father passed, but I would still hurt if I didn't try to help her. It would mess me up for a long time. Ask him what he truly wants to do and then get the fvck out.
You are probably eligible for more than just living expenses. Here in MD there is a program called WIC - Women Infants Children, where lower income families, even one like your own where you are expecting, can get basic groceries and necessities.
Again, your frustration is understandable, but your outlet is not. Find a better way to get it out without attacking people
I'm working on getting on wic now. I go to the health department so they help me with that
Seriously you are just adding fuel to the fire attempting to defend yourself. Just do what's best for your family and move on. Hope everything works out for you guys.
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I can't believe I'm sharing this on the bump, but I really want to help you despite your defensiveness.
I adopted a teenager with Schitzo Affective disorder that also had a severe Reactive Attachment Disorder. She was lovely and beautiful and smart and funny and delightful and loveable...on stable days. All other times and there were more of the "other times" than good days, life in our house was a nightmare. She was emotionally abusive to the point that loving her killed a part of my soul for a while. People would say that they feared I all the happiness had left me and that I'd never be happy again. And it felt that way. Every single time she lashed out, the way she laughed with glee when my baby died and told me it made her happy to see me hurt like that, sick...very sick. If there was trouble to get into, she did...she found it. Despite the tight reign we kept on her, despite the hours and hours of specialized therapy, the special school, the fucking torture. It was hell. But I loved her, she was my daughter...she had become my daughter and she was ill, so ill. Her life was sad and lonely and tortured. I feared waking up in the morning and finding her dead in her bed. I worried all the time. I worried until I lost every single friend, my husband (then fiance) packed all his shit and left, until no one was left for her. I worried through her multiple stints in rehab, forced hospitalizations, suicide attempts, running aways. Everytime I let her back into my house and I loved her, but one day I just realized we were no good together, she needed me and I thought that meant I needed to be there for her in every way, but she was killing me slowly. So we parted ways for a while. I sectioned her, found her a spot at a recovery high school, found her an independent living program. And I loved her over the phone, through emails, occasional visits. And it is better now. She is amazing. She was worth it. Worth every single last toxic second of it. But it is better now because she had to be apart from us to realize what she could lose and she had to want to help herself.
Your MIL and you have a toxic relationship. She needs help, she needs to help herself. But you need to help yourself too. Staying is only going to make things worse. Talk to your husband and find a way you can support her getting help if she'll take the help. And help yourselves.
Looking back, I don't know how I survived that time. Maybe because she was so clearly ill. I think people often overlook alcoholics as being ill, but they are. And you just can't expect ill people not to be ill, not without help.
Good luck, honestly. You have my sympathies so long as you don't accuse people of being unable to read because they don't agree with you. The reading specialist in me can just not get passed that.
I can't believe I'm sharing this on the bump, but I really want to help you despite your defensiveness.
I adopted a teenager with Schitzo Affective disorder that also had a severe Reactive Attachment Disorder. She was lovely and beautiful and smart and funny and delightful and loveable...on stable days. All other times and there were more of the "other times" than good days, life in our house was a nightmare. She was emotionally abusive to the point that loving her killed a part of my soul for a while. People would say that they feared I all the happiness had left me and that I'd never be happy again. And it felt that way. Every single time she lashed out, the way she laughed with glee when my baby died and told me it made her happy to see me hurt like that, sick...very sick. If there was trouble to get into, she did...she found it. Despite the tight reign we kept on her, despite the hours and hours of specialized therapy, the special school, the fucking torture. It was hell. But I loved her, she was my daughter...she had become my daughter and she was ill, so ill. Her life was sad and lonely and tortured. I feared waking up in the morning and finding her dead in her bed. I worried all the time. I worried until I lost every single friend, my husband (then fiance) packed all his shit and left, until no one was left for her. I worried through her multiple stints in rehab, forced hospitalizations, suicide attempts, running aways. Everytime I let her back into my house and I loved her, but one day I just realized we were no good together, she needed me and I thought that meant I needed to be there for her in every way, but she was killing me slowly. So we parted ways for a while. I sectioned her, found her a spot at a recovery high school, found her an independent living program. And I loved her over the phone, through emails, occasional visits. And it is better now. She is amazing. She was worth it. Worth every single last toxic second of it. But it is better now because she had to be apart from us to realize what she could lose and she had to want to help herself.
Your MIL and you have a toxic relationship. She needs help, she needs to help herself. But you need to help yourself too. Staying is only going to make things worse. Talk to your husband and find a way you can support her getting help if she'll take the help. And help yourselves.
Looking back, I don't know how I survived that time. Maybe because she was so clearly ill. I think people often overlook alcoholics as being ill, but they are. And you just can't expect ill people not to be ill, not without help.
Good luck, honestly. You have my sympathies so long as you don't accuse people of being unable to read because they don't agree with you. The reading specialist in me can just not get passed that.
Wow Thank you for sharing. As I can say my mil is a wonderful loving person at times. I can also say she does not want us to leave. Having an infant coming into her home is no burden to her. I honestly believe things may get worse when we do leave. She goes go to a doctor, but only once a month or so to get her xanax prescription. If I were to sit with her every night instead of hide in my room, she would literally sob to me. She is in a lot of pain . But she also does nothing to fix it. I tell her drinking is not making it better. She still wakes up on the morning and the problems are still there. It's very hard for her to face reality . Instead she plays pitty party and some how makes everything about her. All of it has just gotten old. We try to help I try to make her aware of her actions when she is sober but eventually she falls back into that 6 foot hole she has buried. And my poor husband has been stuck in the middle of it since the divorce.
I'm happy to say he may be able to get me a job with him until we can hopefully get something accomplished with the army. I'm so glad I posted this thread. It seriously opened my eyes to a lot.
Re: Huge rant and vent about mil. Please feel free to share thoughts
P.s Her dog has been ill since I moved in. He couldn't even walk on his back legs anymore. It wasn't until about 3 weeks ago that she finally took him to the vet after a week of throwing up and bloody stool. So I blame a lot of different things on why she cant afford to take her dog to the vet. And none of that has anything to do with me or my husband. I just didn't feel like adding every detail in since I already wrote a novel that most like no one really completely read. I know I wouldn't have.
I asked for thoughts and you gave me yours. I didn't agree with yours, that is all. Thanks for reading anyways.
My DH & I own a home with no mortgage on it, we rent it out, we do charge a monthly rent plus late fees.
Just because there's no mortgage (or she's not paying it), don't expect to live there for free.
If you don't pay rent, regardless of where her money comes from, and you live in her house....well yes you're going to have to clean and cook and contribute somehow. Sorry that it sucks, but that is how it works.
Exactly. The OP is like your MIL and living for free and expecting the house to magically become her's since her MIL doesn't pay the mortgage either.
We have been living in my mother's in-law apartment in their house since We started renovating our townhouse in March. We then sold the townhouse, and will be moving back to my husband's hometown this weekend. For a short period of time, while we repair our credit and get back on our feet, my MIL will be letting us stay with her. Since we moved in with my mom, my husband has continued to bring in his paycheck to cover whatever we could, and I sold off 2 horses to cut costs and bring in some cushion money, but our credit is shot after 3 years of me being laid off often.
Note: I was the breadwinner before our daughter was born, my connections got my husband his job, I did what I could to support us when he wanted to try out a different job with lower pay but better hours. After our daughter was born, and I was laid off for the first time, we decided it was time for him to go back to the other job and make more money so we could survive. I sold off what I could, he sold his car, I sold one of my cars, gave him the other to drive, and we have been driving one of my mother's spare vehicles for a few years now.
We are very bit grateful for every single scrap of help our families have given us. When we moved back in with my mom, I took over a good bit of the child/household/cleaning duties since there are still 3 kids living at home. I shuttle to sports, events, school, pick-up when someone is sick, cook, clean as I can, and am just in general on-call 24/7 as needed. My mother and I don't always get along, but I've grown wise enough to not bite the hand that feeds. She has given us everything she can, which has been alot, and we have no way of paying her back, and that's an understood situation. But I do feel the need to vent sometimes, so instead of making an ass of myself on the internet, or blowing up at a person, I go have a good poop shoveling fit at the barn, toss around some hay, groom my horse, have a good cry and go for a ride.
What I'm saying is while we can all understand some of your situation, you need a better outlet for your issues. Something productive. And explain to me again why you aren't currently employed? I don't think I read anywhere that you have another dependent to care for... and while I understand the current job market is seriously lacking in what sounds to be a rural area that you live in... there are often unconventional ways of making money to supplement your families needs. Find something to get you out of the house. Don't have a car? Find a way to get a beater, or get to walking...
@JKBMA2014: I'm glad that your siggy has your age in it, otherwise, after reading your whole original post and all of the comments, I would have been firmly convinced you were simply a petulant 16 year old girl. I must say, if you speak to your MIL the way you speak to people on this board, I can't see how you expect her to respect you. Respect is earned.....not something that you are simply entitled to. You also are not entitled to a free place to live with no responsibility whatsoever.
My husband and I lived with one car for over a year. We both worked (an hour apart) and I was going to school 30 minutes in the opposite direction. The thing is, we didn't have a choice, so we made it work. It sounds to me like you are full of excuses. If you want to change your living situation, which I agree that you desperately need to, you need to adjust your perspective. Suck it up and get a job, or stop complaining and be grateful that you know someone willing to take you in.
Also, I'm appalled that you think you have more rights to things in this woman's house than she does. Regardless of where HER money comes from, she is the one paying for the heat, so she can do what she wants.
Your comment to @Kitchencolors is disgusting. You should be ashamed and apologize.....also, you should recognize that she had a ton of grace in not flaming you for that, and maybe you should gain some of that with regard to your MIL.
ETA: I didn't read through the whole thread before responding. OP sounds like it sucks but you're on her turf. She's a bitch, in her own house. This is how she lives her life. It wouldn't be your problem if you weren't there. Don't worry, I saw your millions of responses "we're working on that" so yes, I am aware you're "working on that." But that's still all the advice I've got.
she was using me and my husbands car until she got her own car. Which my husband traded in HIS car for in order for her to get so we didn't have to keep giving her rides
I know I'm just really freaking frustrated. It's really not your problem. Edit:changed wording
I appreciate you all acknowledging it. I just wish you could understand this frustration is built on top of a lot of other things. Not just a little bite of food. But that little bite of food triggered so,etching much more than that. It's none of your fault that I live with an alcoholic except for myself. Me and my husband even talked about a job situation to where I could work. Thanks to this thread and some of your thoughts. I might be coming at you guys rudely but I am definitely taking in what you say.. I will take everything you have said into consideration. Maybe I just needed a reality check. I really don't want to argue about it with you guys. We are May mummy's not enemy's. Plus I have enough bitching going on at home
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Again, your frustration is understandable, but your outlet is not. Find a better way to get it out without attacking people
I adopted a teenager with Schitzo Affective disorder that also had a severe Reactive Attachment Disorder. She was lovely and beautiful and smart and funny and delightful and loveable...on stable days. All other times and there were more of the "other times" than good days, life in our house was a nightmare. She was emotionally abusive to the point that loving her killed a part of my soul for a while. People would say that they feared I all the happiness had left me and that I'd never be happy again. And it felt that way. Every single time she lashed out, the way she laughed with glee when my baby died and told me it made her happy to see me hurt like that, sick...very sick. If there was trouble to get into, she did...she found it. Despite the tight reign we kept on her, despite the hours and hours of specialized therapy, the special school, the fucking torture. It was hell. But I loved her, she was my daughter...she had become my daughter and she was ill, so ill. Her life was sad and lonely and tortured. I feared waking up in the morning and finding her dead in her bed. I worried all the time. I worried until I lost every single friend, my husband (then fiance) packed all his shit and left, until no one was left for her. I worried through her multiple stints in rehab, forced hospitalizations, suicide attempts, running aways. Everytime I let her back into my house and I loved her, but one day I just realized we were no good together, she needed me and I thought that meant I needed to be there for her in every way, but she was killing me slowly. So we parted ways for a while. I sectioned her, found her a spot at a recovery high school, found her an independent living program. And I loved her over the phone, through emails, occasional visits. And it is better now. She is amazing. She was worth it. Worth every single last toxic second of it. But it is better now because she had to be apart from us to realize what she could lose and she had to want to help herself.
Your MIL and you have a toxic relationship. She needs help, she needs to help herself. But you need to help yourself too. Staying is only going to make things worse. Talk to your husband and find a way you can support her getting help if she'll take the help. And help yourselves.
Looking back, I don't know how I survived that time. Maybe because she was so clearly ill. I think people often overlook alcoholics as being ill, but they are. And you just can't expect ill people not to be ill, not without help.
Good luck, honestly. You have my sympathies so long as you don't accuse people of being unable to read because they don't agree with you. The reading specialist in me can just not get passed that.
I'm happy to say he may be able to get me a job with him until we can hopefully get something accomplished with the army. I'm so glad I posted this thread. It seriously opened my eyes to a lot.