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February 2014 Moms
pisses me off!
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Re: pisses me off!
I agree BABiES need to be dressed warmer than we feel.. Aka 50d anywhere deserves all body skin covered at least, including feet. How you cover it I really don't care.
Kids? Well my 3y can put on her own socks and shoes so I expect her to have that on but she also can tell me if a light jacket is hot or cold to her. But she walks so yes I expect her feet to be covered if we are in public.
In Texas (where I am), it doesnt matter hot or cold, a baby in a diaper only is pretty WT or a rookie mommy;)
My friend and her husband spent an eight hour drive in coats, hats, and gloves with their AC blasting while their daughter snoozed in a lightweight short sleeve onsie with no pants. She was just under two months, perfectly healthy, and would sweat and scream if they turned the AC down. At fifty she'd have light pants and a light top and be miserable any more covered.
Boo fucking hoo
My SIL used to jump on me for NOT leaving the kids' coats on, but, she also jumped on me for not turning the kids' car seats around; she'd turned each one around by 6 months b/c SHE needed to be able to see them, & so since all her kids survived, obviously it was fine. She said she couldn't bear not being able to see them when she drove. DD was 14 months & I had no intention of turning her until at least 2 when I expected she'd hit the top of the seat.
The coat is a no-no due to safety; take it along for things outside the car, &, if you'd happen to break down & not be able to get help right away, but usually, a blanket tucked OVER the seatbelts, not UNDER it, & one of those shower-cap-type covers that go over the top of the carrier work. On the safety angle, many hospitals will not let you leave with baby in a car seat if it has one of those covers that wrap behind baby & over the top, or in snowsuits, (even with the crotch hole for the seatbelt). Not only do most babies overheat in those (b/c mom & dad usually have the heat going, too), but again, they aren't safe in case of accidents.
It's always easier to add more than to try to cool down a sweaty, pissed off baby in a full outfit & snowsuit/jacket, etc. but it is also very easy for a baby to lose body heat, esp. if they aren't wearing a hat. There are a lot of moms who put babies in full sleepers, hats, gloves & then a blanket in the crib in a heated house, b/c they'll tell you baby is cold (& they'll be in shorts & t-shirt b/c the furnace is set so high), & then they don't understand why baby keeps waking up screaming. But there's also those that you'll see bundled up for the next blizzard, & baby has bare feet/bare head, & a lightweight jammie outfit & no blanket, which in my opinion isn't enough.
One layer more than you're wearing in the winter, the same or one layer less than you're wearing in the summer (I let my kids go in less b/c they had heat rash EVERY time I turned around).
What I said before, about babies not being able to regulate their temps works both ways, in cold weather, & in hot weather. Too much, or too little, or inappropriate clothing (ie. snow suits, heavy coats in car seats), can ALL be a safety issue.
I think I mentioned before, unless that was the response TB ate, but in the winter, my kids wore a jacket from after I unbuckled them, on into the store, & then I'd take it off & stick it beside their seat AFTER they were out of their infant carriers & could hold their heads up, prior to that, I just had the blanket & the shower-cap type cover in snowy/cold months, which I'd take the cover off, too, in-store, b/c they can broil in it in a store.
My kids DID wear shoes & socks once they were out of the infant carrier, ( just socks while IN the infant carrier), & I always took the weather into account (kept a spare pare of socks in the diaper bag, spare pair of shoes or sandals in the car once they were bigger) & they never complained.
In the summer, no socks, obviously, just their sandals, but I always had something on their feet (that's my personal preference), but they didn't always wear a lightweight jacket, even if it was rainy/cool, & YES, several times I got comments from older women about "Oh, the poor dear must be cold." Well, you're 70 & perma-freezing, so of course everyone is as cold as you are...that said, if I was wearing a jacket, then my kid was wearing a lightweight blanket for in-between travel. If I felt the need to cover up when out of the vehicle, I covered them (but not like a baby eskimo). In the car, you have the heater, the sun through the windows, etc., & extra isn't usually needed.
I did always carry a lightweight blanket in the diaper bag. With my kids, take them into the refrigerated area of a store & they'd get fussy, like I'd tossed them onto an ice floe, so I'd pull out the blanket when needed, & they could still kick, play with their fingers, &, half the time, gnaw on the blanket. It was also handy for a game of peek-a-boo when they decided they'd had enough of the store. A little bit of diaper bag preparation usually means a lot fewer tears & fussing from being over dressed or under dressed.
DH took the blanket out once & then forgot it, & we wound up eating at a Perkins that was FREEZING cold after our vehicle broke down, (& we weren't even under a vent or I would have moved us). DD was about 14 months at that time, & she was so cold, she wouldn't eat, she just whined the whole time & started to cry even after DH held her (he's always a furnace, & she was wearing a t-shirt, shorts, socks & shoes, so it's not like she was in there bare naked). We hadn't brought a jacket for any of us, b/c it was low to mid 80's, & when I found that the blanket was missing...it was a miserable night that got worse b/c she was hungry but wouldn't eat b/c she was uncomfortable. You can't always control the climates where you go, so that's why I always bring some sort of extra, which yes, means I have to de-clutter the vehicle & diaper bag several times a season or it looks like a changing room, but it's easier than having a bawling, cranky little one. Take extra items, just not ON the baby.
Regarding how to dress kids - I've always heard even newborns should be dressed how you are comfortable. And overheating a newborn is just as dangerous as the child getting too cold. So yea, piling on the blankets/hats/sweaters and then putting the bundle into a squishy carseat where all the heat is trapped in is a good way to do that. The best way to check their temp is the back of the neck - newborns have poor circulation still and often will have colder feet/hands despite being perfectly warm.
IME older kids will tell you when they're hot/cold so I have a tendency to be prepared - bring a coat or whatever - but let them chose to wear it. Often when they're running around like maniacs they are warmer than me just sitting there.
2) Not a ftm
And humidity matters - although I don't want to hear about "dry heat" being more tolerable. If it's 110 it's too hot to live, you hear me Arizona!
Not only is it super easy to keep socks on babies, but it's also super easy to wrestle coats in and out of the car, take them off before you strap them in, put them back on after you take them out...
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Not only is it super easy to keep socks on babies, but it's also super easy to wrestle coats in and out of the car, take them off before you strap them in, put them back on after you take them out...
No, this is what you all are talking about. I am not talking about quick run somewhere or in and out of the car.
That's another one of my points! Lets NOT do it because it's too hard/repetative.
What is it about that you're judging?
Jumping in puddles? Being outdoors in weather you think is too cold? Bare feet? Playing in the rain?
Playing in the rain is FUN. I prefer bare feet for puddles since I don't want their shoes to get wet. Multiple people have pointed out that fifty, even rainy, isn't that cold and that the children are likely safe from frostbite.
Those children sound like they were having fun, and their parents were likely slightly rolling their eyes slightly and congratulating themselves on finding something fun and free to do on a rainy day.
Really, I don't know why I'm explaining it since you've clearly stated that you don't plan on stopping judging any time soon.
If your DD wants to go jump in a rain puddle, take off your shoes (gasp!) roll your pants up and do it with her! It's way more fun to have fun WITH your kids rather than watch them have fun, and guaranteed she will tell everyone how much fun she had with Mommy :x
ETA: tagging @ocmommy2B
Mine jumps in mud puddles and plays in the gutters. And he has a place on the wall to color. And he eats more food off the living room floor than he eats off his plate. And he kisses big slobbery dirty dogs. He actually gets to experience a real childhood.
If your DD wants to go jump in a rain puddle, take off your shoes (gasp!) roll your pants up and do it with her! It's way more fun to have fun WITH your kids rather than watch them have fun, and guaranteed she will tell everyone how much fun she had with Mommy :x
ETA: tagging @ocmommy2B
ooooh that image in my head just made me smile... you may have just turned up my fun-mom notchLike coats in car seats. Not safe at all.
I'll go back to lurking random boards now...