UO Thursday

JSS1002 · September 2013

MKC12/22/2006 said:

Leggings are not pants; cover your butt. Along with that, I hate that the midriff shirt is making a comeback. Can you tell I work at a high school?

Word. The 80s should stay in the 80s.

squatchiebaby · September 2013

CoachAP said:

Every time there is a post about your baby rolling off the bed or almost off the bed i feel no sympathy for you and kind of judge - we all are familiar with the dangers of the baby rolling off the bed, and we all know our babies are rolling, so what gives? Is it really that difficult to place on the floor or bouncer, etc while you are getting things done -even if you think it was 10 seconds?

This is how I discovered my baby could roll over. I was so angry at myself for leaving her there because I knew better. I was just in such a rush to get out the door I didn't think about it. I also wasn't expecting her to be able to do it since she hadn't rolled over before. I beat myself up about it pretty good but at this point I can only learn from my mistake. Unfortunately, I'm not a perfect mother and make really stupid decisions sometimes. I'm just so thankful my baby wasn't hurt.

JSS1002 · September 2013

LibbyLouHoo said:

cmcmillan0901 said:

I am so tired of the "hand on your hip" picture pose. Stop it already!
Guilty. I feel silly doing it but if I don't my arm looks like a jiggly waterbed smushed up against my body
One of my friends always says "a flat arm is a fat arm" and I never realized how true it was until I started paying attention. I've been all about the hand on my hip since then!

Srsly. Didn't you people learn anything from Tyra / Janis / ANTM!?

Debbie0580 · September 2013

MKC12/22/2006 said:
Leggings are not pants; cover your butt. Along with that, I hate that the midriff shirt is making a comeback.

Can you tell I work at a high school?

I'm ok with the leggings as long as they aren't see through but the midriff shirt with the high waisted pants drives me batty.

lilbit0910 · September 2013

I love Leggings! i practically live in them. That being said I wear them appropriately with shirts that do indeed cover my ass.

tondraluv · September 2013

MKC12/22/2006 said:
Leggings are not pants; cover your butt. Along with that, I hate that the midriff shirt is making a comeback.

Can you tell I work at a high school?

Especially if your ass looks like either of these;

FutureMrsCAF · September 2013

My confession a day early: I just demolished some zebra cakes thanks to the cupcake discussion...

OhSewCrafty · September 2013

CoachAP said:

OhSewCrafty said:

none5 said:

Did anyone watch the today's show this morning? Jenna Wolf did a thing on NIP. She went wound to different places in NYC to see what reactions she got. The only place someone had a problem was the Apple store, but she said it was because of where she was sitting. I think she got more looks because of who she is rather than what she was doing.

I saw that this morning. I love her - she's so honest and genuine. I really enjoyed that piece.

I think the whole nurse-in thing brings the issue to light. Nothing is going to get accomplished making our culture aware of women's rights to NIP if the women being affected are quietly shooed out of the store or into a bathroom. Even if I went to customer service to complain about being treated in a certain way, it goes absolutely no where.

Whether you agree with a nurse in or not, our society is built upon a structure where the loudest voice is the right voice. If the big bad stores, parks, malls, etc. can kick out the individual Moms, what other defense do Moms have but to become bigger and louder? Its not about the nursing - its about the presence and the attention. They would otherwise be ignored.

i would like to see if the reaction would be the same if this was a large crowd against gun control or some other controversial cause you don't agree with. It's easy to say this is a great idea when you are a proponent.

Well of course it is....when you support something, that generally means....you support it.

Rallies get people talking about something that would otherwise go unnoticed. It gets attention and makes people talk and hopefully think. THAT'S why I think nurse-ins, letter writing campaigns, peaceful protests, etc. are effective in doing that.

squatchiebaby · September 2013

JSS1002 said:

LibbyLouHoo said:

cmcmillan0901 said:

I am so tired of the "hand on your hip" picture pose. Stop it already!
Guilty. I feel silly doing it but if I don't my arm looks like a jiggly waterbed smushed up against my body

One of my friends always says "a flat arm is a fat arm" and I never realized how true it was until I started paying attention. I've been all about the hand on my hip since then!
Srsly. Didn't you people learn anything from Tyra / Janis / ANTM!?

I know why they do it but i hate seeing every female in every picture making the same pose. Can we not find something else that's flattering? Better yet, embrace the Oprah bat wings!

cassied7 · September 2013

pinottoparenthood said:

Decided to go ahead and post this because @AlpineEngaged 's post about a nurse-in made me think of an UO.

I just don't get the whole nurse-in thing. I am a HUGE advocate for breastfeeding. I still EBF at almost 5.5 months, and I plan to continue to breastfeed into the first year. I do believe that moms should be able to discreetly breastfeed where they want to. But I feel like a nurse-in is almost... passive aggressive? It's saying hey, this makes you uncomfortable, so we're going to throw it into your face by making a big scene about our breastfeeding and drawing lots of attention to it.

I get that public nursing makes some people uncomfortable. I was a nanny after college, and I'm not going to lie, it was a little weird the first time the baby's mother whipped it out in front of me. I didn't have a problem with it, but it did make me feel a little awkward. I averted my eyes and got used to it after awhile. I don't think it's weird that people might feel uncomfortable around a huge crowd of women all nursing at once. Hell, I myself might think it's a little odd. By all means, nurse your child where you need to. Be discreet about it. Do it tucked away in a corner, or while wearing baby, or throw a light A&A blanket over yourself as you do it, and people most likely won't give you a hard time. If they do, stand up for yourself and explain why you do what you do. If a business owner asks you to leave, complain. Don't patronize that business anymore. Tell all of your mom friends so they won't go there either. I just think a nurse-in is a little weird and extreme, personally. My DH is one of my biggest advocates for breastfeeding, and has been so supportive of me. He sees me nurse and pump on a daily basis and has no problem with it. But if he were walking into work, or some public place, and a huge group of women were breastfeeding, it would probably make him uncomfortable. I just don't get it.

Its as if you took the words right out of my mouth. I was a waitress for many years and was always uncomfortable when a woman would whip it out while I was taking her order. Even now, I would never do this unless I had an appropriate cover and if I didn't, I remove myself and go to my car. I don't think we should ever be kicked out of any place, but we should be semi-private. For me its too personal of an experience and I don't want to share it with anyone but my baby and my husband.

melissad23 · September 2013

Mine: I have big ol fluffy regular bumpers in DDs crib and I love them. And I get annoyed when one of my good friends tells me I shouldn't, while she still bed shares at 11 months. Don't tell me my daughter has a bigger chance of SIDS with bumpers than your son does being surrounded by your pillows and blankets and sheets...

pinottoparenthood · September 2013

JollyWife said:

I don't think nursing moms should ever have to be considerate of the general public's discomfort with nursing. I've never been part of a nurse in, but we clearly have a long way to go if even mamas who are "comfortable" and "very pro-nursing" are coddling (even if only hypothetically) to others' ridiculous insecurities about this.

Yummmmmmm cupcakes.

See, I think you're being unfair. You're saying that your perspective is the only perspective that matters and screw other people for not feeling the same way as you, they're wrong. I just don't feel that way. I don't think there is anything wrong with NIP, but I don't get why you would make a big scene of it. I don't think it's ridiculous for someone, particularly a guy or someone who doesn't have kids, to be uncomfortable about seeing a stranger nurse her baby. I am going to feed my baby when I need to, but I'm not going to go out of my way to make it into a huge demonstration. I respect that not everyone is familiar or comfortable with watching it go down, and I'm not angry about that. I don't have anything to prove. I don't need to convince the world that my way is "right." I'm just subtly feeding my baby in the corner over here and it's generally NBD.

pinottoparenthood · September 2013

Kate_C said:

But you're NEVER going to see that site, unless you go there specifically to see it, which means 1) those uncomfortable will just avoid it, and 2) it isn't actually desensitizing people at all.

I would think money and time would be better spent educating people about why breastfeeding is good, normal, healthy, important, rather than staging an unrealistic situation that very few will see unless they specifically go to see it.
I thought the point of a nurse in was to do it somewhere visible like a Starbucks or a park or whatever - someplace that a mom would actually nurse a baby in the normal course of life. The point is to demonstrate it should just be normal and unremarkable to nurse a baby, not an aberration. Nurse ins tend to be prompted by obnoxious comments from people about NIP. Wasn't there a mom on here that got some snotty remake about nursing in a target? I will never understand the hullabaloo about NIP. 99% of the time you can't see anything other than a mom with a baby snuggled up to her chest. Clothing and baby cover the breast.

Exactly. That was me! I got the shitty remarks at Target about NIP. I think it's absurd that people get bothered by NIP. Why is it the nursing mom's responsibility to make everyone around her comfortable? And quite frankly, it's a lot easier and quicker to avert your eyes if you really have an issue. It takes far more energy to make a nasty comment, complain, or make or a scene.

But see, I feel like someone making a scene about a mom NIP is similar to moms "making a scene" by breastfeeding at a nurse-in. It's belligerent and just pisses people off more. If someone is uncomfortable with NIP or doesn't want to see it, they're NOT going to walk by a nurse-in and think, "wow, now that I've seen all these moms doing this, I realize that it's natural and my whole opinion has changed!" They're just going to think that these moms are going out of their way to be obvious and make them uncomfortable, and at that point they are probably even more anti-NIP than they were before, so what was really accomplished?

kelsea1031 · September 2013

pinottoparenthood said:

Kate_C said:

But you're NEVER going to see that site, unless you go there specifically to see it, which means 1) those uncomfortable will just avoid it, and 2) it isn't actually desensitizing people at all.

I would think money and time would be better spent educating people about why breastfeeding is good, normal, healthy, important, rather than staging an unrealistic situation that very few will see unless they specifically go to see it.
I thought the point of a nurse in was to do it somewhere visible like a Starbucks or a park or whatever - someplace that a mom would actually nurse a baby in the normal course of life. The point is to demonstrate it should just be normal and unremarkable to nurse a baby, not an aberration. Nurse ins tend to be prompted by obnoxious comments from people about NIP. Wasn't there a mom on here that got some snotty remake about nursing in a target? I will never understand the hullabaloo about NIP. 99% of the time you can't see anything other than a mom with a baby snuggled up to her chest. Clothing and baby cover the breast.

Exactly. That was me! I got the shitty remarks at Target about NIP. I think it's absurd that people get bothered by NIP. Why is it the nursing mom's responsibility to make everyone around her comfortable? And quite frankly, it's a lot easier and quicker to avert your eyes if you really have an issue. It takes far more energy to make a nasty comment, complain, or make or a scene.
But see, I feel like someone making a scene about a mom NIP is similar to moms "making a scene" by breastfeeding at a nurse-in. It's belligerent and just pisses people off more. If someone is uncomfortable with NIP or doesn't want to see it, they're NOT going to walk by a nurse-in and think, "wow, now that I've seen all these moms doing this, I realize that's it natural and my whole opinion has changed!" They're just going to think that these moms are going out of their way to be obvious and make them uncomfortable, and at that point they are probably even more anti-NIP than they were before, so what was really accomplished?

But see, these nurse ins wouldn't be happening if someone hadn't given a BFing mom grief for NIP in the first place. Nurse ins like the one posted about yesterday happen in response to someone, somewhere being rude or discriminatory towards a nursing mom. And sure, a nurse in is not going to change everyone's minds, but it may enlighten somebody. Also, they happen to be very good at bringing the legal aspect of NIP to the forefront, which is a huge component of the issue. I've heard many people say before, including several family members, that they had no idea that it was illegal to ask a BFing mom to cover up in most places.

JSS1002 · September 2013

pinottoparenthood said:

Kate_C said:

But you're NEVER going to see that site, unless you go there specifically to see it, which means 1) those uncomfortable will just avoid it, and 2) it isn't actually desensitizing people at all.

I would think money and time would be better spent educating people about why breastfeeding is good, normal, healthy, important, rather than staging an unrealistic situation that very few will see unless they specifically go to see it.
I thought the point of a nurse in was to do it somewhere visible like a Starbucks or a park or whatever - someplace that a mom would actually nurse a baby in the normal course of life. The point is to demonstrate it should just be normal and unremarkable to nurse a baby, not an aberration. Nurse ins tend to be prompted by obnoxious comments from people about NIP. Wasn't there a mom on here that got some snotty remake about nursing in a target? I will never understand the hullabaloo about NIP. 99% of the time you can't see anything other than a mom with a baby snuggled up to her chest. Clothing and baby cover the breast.
Exactly. That was me! I got the shitty remarks at Target about NIP. I think it's absurd that people get bothered by NIP. Why is it the nursing mom's responsibility to make everyone around her comfortable? And quite frankly, it's a lot easier and quicker to avert your eyes if you really have an issue. It takes far more energy to make a nasty comment, complain, or make or a scene.
But see, I feel like someone making a scene about a mom NIP is similar to moms "making a scene" by breastfeeding at a nurse-in. It's belligerent and just pisses people off more. If someone is uncomfortable with NIP or doesn't want to see it, they're NOT going to walk by a nurse-in and think, "wow, now that I've seen all these moms doing this, I realize that it's natural and my whole opinion has changed!" They're just going to think that these moms are going out of their way to be obvious and make them uncomfortable, and at that point they are probably even more anti-NIP than they were before, so what was really accomplished?

That is exactly what I think. I don't see how "bringing awareness" solves the problem -- people are aware, they are just uncomfortable with bare breasts. Seeing ten dozen of them isn't going to make that any better.

love4b · September 2013

cassied7 said:

pinottoparenthood said:

Decided to go ahead and post this because @AlpineEngaged 's post about a nurse-in made me think of an UO.

I just don't get the whole nurse-in thing. I am a HUGE advocate for breastfeeding. I still EBF at almost 5.5 months, and I plan to continue to breastfeed into the first year. I do believe that moms should be able to discreetly breastfeed where they want to. But I feel like a nurse-in is almost... passive aggressive? It's saying hey, this makes you uncomfortable, so we're going to throw it into your face by making a big scene about our breastfeeding and drawing lots of attention to it.

I get that public nursing makes some people uncomfortable. I was a nanny after college, and I'm not going to lie, it was a little weird the first time the baby's mother whipped it out in front of me. I didn't have a problem with it, but it did make me feel a little awkward. I averted my eyes and got used to it after awhile. I don't think it's weird that people might feel uncomfortable around a huge crowd of women all nursing at once. Hell, I myself might think it's a little odd. By all means, nurse your child where you need to. Be discreet about it. Do it tucked away in a corner, or while wearing baby, or throw a light A&A blanket over yourself as you do it, and people most likely won't give you a hard time. If they do, stand up for yourself and explain why you do what you do. If a business owner asks you to leave, complain. Don't patronize that business anymore. Tell all of your mom friends so they won't go there either. I just think a nurse-in is a little weird and extreme, personally. My DH is one of my biggest advocates for breastfeeding, and has been so supportive of me. He sees me nurse and pump on a daily basis and has no problem with it. But if he were walking into work, or some public place, and a huge group of women were breastfeeding, it would probably make him uncomfortable. I just don't get it.

Its as if you took the words right out of my mouth. I was a waitress for many years and was always uncomfortable when a woman would whip it out while I was taking her order. Even now, I would never do this unless I had an appropriate cover and if I didn't, I remove myself and go to my car. I don't think we should ever be kicked out of any place, but we should be semi-private. For me its too personal of an experience and I don't want to share it with anyone but my baby and my husband.

I've seen women in restaurants wearing shirts with so much cleavage they're actually showing more of their boobs than I do when I'm nursing without a cover, and I've never seen anyone go up to them and ask them to leave or cover up.

When I nurse in public - which I do often since my daughter is exclusively breastfed and I have a life out in the world - I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm trying to feed my daughter. She's at a stage where she wants to look around and if I use a cover, it results in screaming, which I think is a heck of a lot more offensive to people around us. At this point, breastfeeding is not a personal or private thing, it's beautiful, but somewhat mundane.

If it's a private experience for you, that's great, go nurse in your car, but don't tell me I have to, especially when my right to nurse my baby in public is protected by law. The whole point of the nurse-in was to draw attention to the fact that a woman was wrongly asked to leave her son's school because she wanted to nurse her younger child - and I guess it worked, since we're talking about it here.

If a business owner asked me to leave because I was nursing, I wouldn't just 'not patronize the business', I would tell them to call the police if they wanted me to leave. Sheepishly walking away undermines my rights as a nursing mother and as a woman.

'Bringing awareness' is the only way we can solve this problem. The problem is the general public not being aware that nursing mothers are protected by law - hence moms being asked to leave. That's why the nurse-in is important. It draws attention to the laws that already exist protecting our right to nurse wherever we and our children are allowed to be. If anyone has a better way of bringing attention to this issue, please post. If there's a better solution than a nurse-in, what is it? And please don't ask me to cover-up.

Kate_C · September 2013

randomosity said:

This is just some random picture from Google but this might be one of the worst/tackiest fashion trends I've ever seen (the sheer top with a colored bra underneath.) I saw this at least 3 times at the mall last night and then once in Target. What in the world...

Klassy.

lilbit0910 · September 2013

I know i might get some serious back lash on this but i have to say it.

honestly i'm just over hearing about breast feeding and i am sure there are other NON breast feeding moms out there that feel the same. i feel as long as the baby is healthy and eating well then why does it matter whether it is breast milk or formula. Also i feel that a lot of women who breast feed ( not anyone specific on this board) feel superior to those of us who don't.

JSS1002

That is exactly what I think. I don't see how "bringing awareness" solves the problem -- people are aware, they are just uncomfortable with bare breasts. Seeing ten dozen of them isn't going to make that any better.

pinottoparenthood · September 2013

lilbit0910 said:

I know i might get some serious back lash on this but i have to say it.

honestly i'm just over hearing about breast feeding and i am sure there are other NON breast feeding moms out there that feel the same. i feel as long as the baby is healthy and eating well then why does it matter whether it is breast milk or formula. Also i feel that a lot of women who breast feed ( not anyone specific on this board) feel superior to those of us who don't.

JSS1002

That is exactly what I think. I don't see how "bringing awareness" solves the problem -- people are aware, they are just uncomfortable with bare breasts. Seeing ten dozen of them isn't going to make that any better.

Well, women can nurse in public. It's the law. And I think they should be able to. My son used to cry and scream with bottles. What was I supposed to do, never leave home for more than an hour? But I do think some people are overly sanctimonious about it for sure. And I just don't see the need to make a big scene about how you're breastfeeding and you want everyone to know it and it's your right!!! ... Just feed your kid. I know there are some hateful people out there, but most of the time, if you are discreet and don't make it into a big deal, it's not going to be a big deal. As for your point about feeding breastmilk versus formula, there are definitely benefits that baby can only get with BM... But at the end of the day, each mom has to do what works for her and her baby, and everyone being happy and healthy is the most important thing. If breastfeeding gets in the way of that, it might not be the best option for that particular family in that particular situation.

Debbie0580 · September 2013

Bethenny and Queen Latifah should not have talk shows.

bibliophileemily · September 2013

lilbit0910 said:

I know i might get some serious back lash on this but i have to say it.

honestly i'm just over hearing about breast feeding and i am sure there are other NON breast feeding moms out there that feel the same. i feel as long as the baby is healthy and eating well then why does it matter whether it is breast milk or formula. Also i feel that a lot of women who breast feed ( not anyone specific on this board) feel superior to those of us who don't.

that being said. I dont think nursing in public is appropriateJSS1002

That is exactly what I think. I don't see how "bringing awareness" solves the problem -- people are aware, they are just uncomfortable with bare breasts. Seeing ten dozen of them isn't going to make that any better.

If you don't think nursing in public is appropriate, how exactly do you propose I keep my baby "healthy and eating well" if you think I shouldn't feed her whenever and wherever she gets hungry? Am I supposed to stop going to the grocery store, church, the sports bar to watch football because those places don't have private nursing rooms? Should I literally never ever leave the house on the off chance that my child might become hungry while we're out and someone might see me feeding her? Am I supposed to just let her scream until I can get to an ideal nursing spot (whatever that is)?
Excuse the swear word, but that's bullshit. If your kid's hungry, you feed your kid. It shouldn't matter if you use a bottle or your breast, wear a cover or not; it also shouldn't matter what other people think, whether they're judging you for showing a little bit of side boob or shaking their heads while you prepare a bottle of formula. That's THEIR problem; you have to do what you have to do for your kid, and let the rest of the world deal with it.
Honestly, I don't think the general public is the problem when it comes to women being scared to NIP; I think it's other mothers. We're so quick to use words like "modest" and "discreet" to refer to it when really, like @minxyglams said, breastfeeding is just a mundane reality for those of us who are doing it. It's no more special than preparing a bottle. I think it's ridiculous that mothers have a need to shame each other for ANY parenting choice (save actual abuse or neglect), and if that's an unpopular opinion, I don't even care. We should be building each other up instead of constantly judging each other over things that won't even matter in the long run.

lilbit0910 · September 2013

UO for a reason ladies. To each their own . I meant inappropriate when u Just whip it out anywhere with no consideration for others which I'm sure is not the case with any if you. If done discreetly then no one would notice and we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with.

Mandmeesh · September 2013

lilbit0910 said:

UO for a reason ladies. To each their own . I meant inappropriate when u Just whip it out anywhere with no consideration for others which I'm sure is not the case with any if you. If done discreetly then no one would notice and we wouldn't be having this discussion to begin with.

I definitely do not consider anyone else on the planet when I nurse M in public

OhSewCrafty · September 2013

Can someone please explain how a woman would "whip it out" to breast feed? I effing hate when that phrase is used in terms of breast feeding in public. Have you seen someon pop their bra down and flop a tit on the table during dinner or something? I think people use "well........ I don't mind NIP if she doesn't whip it out" because they are either back peddling or don't have the guts to say how they really feel. Anyone purposely exposing themselves in public is being indecent, but having a child breast feeding without a cover =/= that I whipped it out.

ClandestineX · September 2013

OhSewCrafty said:

Can someone please explain how a woman would "whip it out" to breast feed? I effing hate when that phrase is used in terms of breast feeding in public. Have you seen someon pop their bra down and flop a tit on the table during dinner or something? I think people use "well........ I don't mind NIP if she doesn't whip it out" because they are either back peddling or don't have the guts to say how they really feel. Anyone purposely exposing themselves in public is being indecent, but having a child breast feeding without a cover =/= that I whipped it out.

Haha, I get what you're saying, but I was in Walmart (Yes, there is the reason right there), some lady literally dropped her boob out of her bra and fed her kid while he was sitting in the seat part of the cart.. lmao she wasn't holding her boob either just let it hang and the kid grabbed it with both hands and nursed. I could not help but laugh and "Nope" my way out of that area.

Mandmeesh · September 2013

OhSewCrafty said:

Can someone please explain how a woman would "whip it out" to breast feed? I effing hate when that phrase is used in terms of breast feeding in public. Have you seen someon pop their bra down and flop a tit on the table during dinner or something? I think people use "well........ I don't mind NIP if she doesn't whip it out" because they are either back peddling or don't have the guts to say how they really feel. Anyone purposely exposing themselves in public is being indecent, but having a child breast feeding without a cover =/= that I whipped it out.

Yeah, I think 18 year olds whip out their boobs

lilbit0910 · September 2013

I knew u ladies would all get offeneded hence why I said the back lash comment to begin with. I am not trying to be offensive against anyone nor am I judging any of you . I think as moms we all do what is best for our babies. What clandestine described about the incident at Walmart is exactly the kind if thing I was referring to .

Mandmeesh · September 2013

lilbit0910 said:

I knew u ladies would all get offeneded hence why I said the back lash comment to begin with. I am not trying to be offensive against anyone nor am I judging any of you . I think as moms we all do what is best for our babies. What clandestine described about the incident at Walmart is exactly the kind if thing I was referring to .

I think to say "I'm not judging you ladies" is moot. The opinion is judgmental. @clandestinex 's Walmart story is rare...I have never seen a woman do that. If you see that all the time, a nurse-in would be good exposure to see what nip is really like

OhSewCrafty · September 2013

lilbit0910 said:

I knew u ladies would all get offeneded hence why I said the back lash comment to begin with. I am not trying to be offensive against anyone nor am I judging any of you . I think as moms we all do what is best for our babies. What clandestine described about the incident at Walmart is exactly the kind if thing I was referring to .

My comment wasn't necessarily directed at you. The whole "whip it out" thing is said all the time in threads like this.

What I don't understand is why the caveat. If you support NIP, then you support it. If you don't, then say so. What you're talking about (and in the example clandestine gave) the offensive factor is the nudity. If you're basically removing your shirt to nurse (or try on another shirt, fix your bra, etc.) that's a little much. But to constantly put that caveat into your support for NIP assumes negative intent by all mothers and diminishes your support.

Its like saying "I don't mind when people go to the bathroom -- as long as they don't go on the floor." Why would you even have to say that? You assume people would do their best to not pee on the floor, but of course there are those odd ducks that like to be the exception, but that doesn't mean we focus on it.

ClandestineX · September 2013

All opinions are judgments in a way.

OhSewCrafty · September 2013

ClandestineX said:

OhSewCrafty said:

Can someone please explain how a woman would "whip it out" to breast feed? I effing hate when that phrase is used in terms of breast feeding in public. Have you seen someon pop their bra down and flop a tit on the table during dinner or something? I think people use "well........ I don't mind NIP if she doesn't whip it out" because they are either back peddling or don't have the guts to say how they really feel. Anyone purposely exposing themselves in public is being indecent, but having a child breast feeding without a cover =/= that I whipped it out.

Haha, I get what you're saying, but I was in Walmart (Yes, there is the reason right there), some lady literally dropped her boob out of her bra and fed her kid while he was sitting in the seat part of the cart.. lmao she wasn't holding her boob either just let it hang and the kid grabbed it with both hands and nursed. I could not help but laugh and "Nope" my way out of that area.

ClandestineX · September 2013

@OhSewCrafty - My exact face!

While I have seen my fair share of weird and crazy stuff, I will say that outside of weird and crazy places (i.e. Walmart) it is very rare to see something like that. People like to focus on the negatives though.. that is what sticks in our minds the most. You remember why you disliked a place or a thing, but you do not remember the good times you've ever had in it or with it. A thousand good things can come from something, but people will always remember that one bad thing about it.

Kate_C · September 2013

ClandestineX said:
All opinions are judgments in a way.

Very true. And my UO is that it is not a bad thing to have an opinion or judgment and disagree with each other. I completely disagree with @lilbit0910 re: NIP, but I respect her honesty in sharing her real opinion and being willing to defend it. This board needs some debate. And let's be real: everyone makes judgments about other people's decisions. It is human nature. The question is whether you are an ass/sanctimommy in expressing your judgment or if you respect differing choices and opinions.

JSS1002 · September 2013

To clarify-- I do not in any way think that nursing in public is inappropriate,whether you cover up or not should be YOUR choice,based on how YOU feel about it, and everybody else can go fuck themselves.

I only NIP'd a few times, and always with a cover,but that was about MY bullshit,not worrying about anybody elses feelings. Couldn't care less about that. Nor am I personally uncomfortable or bothered in any way by anybody else nursing in public, covered or coverless.

My point was that I do not think the act of a "nurse in" is going to change anybody's feelings about it -- I think that it will make those who are uncomfortable even more uncomfortable, and those who think it is inappropriate feel even more offended. Kinda like how the "occupy wall street" movement has the reputation of making everybody roll their eyes, call them dirty hippies and tell 'em to go get a job.

The marketing needs to be all about educating people that it is ILLEGAL to refuse to allow somebody to nurse in public -- hand in hand with the health benefits of breastfeeding for both mother and child. But that all gets lost in the "I'm an earth cookie goddess mother and YOU WILL SEE MY BOOBS AND YOU WILL LIKE IT AND I DONT' CARE."

Really, it's a marketing problem.

ClandestineX · September 2013

Businesses do not profit on breastfeeding without a cover, so there wont really be marketing for it and the reason why it isn't aired usually.

Just like with any protest.. there are your bad eggs that just hurts what they are trying to protect. To get people to stop being sensitive to it, just keep doing it, but do so without a scene. If someone is uneducated about it (Usually those types have a bigger mouth) then kindly inform them otherwise.. not go ballistic on them, even if what they are saying pisses you off to the nth degree.

JSS1002 · September 2013

ClandestineX said:

Businesses do not profit on breastfeeding without a cover, so there wont really be marketing for it and the reason why it isn't aired usually.

Just like with any protest.. there are your bad eggs that just hurts what they are trying to protect. To get people to stop being sensitive to it, just keep doing it, but do so without a scene. If someone is uneducated about it (Usually those types have a bigger mouth) then kindly inform them otherwise.. not go ballistic on them, even if what they are saying pisses you off to the nth degree.

No,I meant the marketing of the nurse-in and why it is an issue is all wrong. I don't expect a business to go market anything other than their goods and services, but any time you're championing for a cause, it is a form of marketing.

ClandestineX · September 2013

JSS1002 said:

ClandestineX said:

Businesses do not profit on breastfeeding without a cover, so there wont really be marketing for it and the reason why it isn't aired usually.

Just like with any protest.. there are your bad eggs that just hurts what they are trying to protect. To get people to stop being sensitive to it, just keep doing it, but do so without a scene. If someone is uneducated about it (Usually those types have a bigger mouth) then kindly inform them otherwise.. not go ballistic on them, even if what they are saying pisses you off to the nth degree.

No,I meant the marketing of the nurse-in and why it is an issue is all wrong. I don't expect a business to go market anything other than their goods and services, but any time you're championing for a cause, it is a form of marketing.

True, how do propose to educate the populous about breastfeeding?

Kate_C · September 2013

JSS1002 said:
Kinda like how the "occupy wall street" movement has the reputation of making everybody roll their eyes, call them dirty hippies and tell 'em to go get a job.

That's because they are dirty hippies who need to get a damn job. -shaking my arthritic fist at the hippie kids-

I kid. Honestly it seems like nurse ins are a bigger deal IRL to the moms participating than to anyone else. I'm not sure I've ever heard anything about them other than on the Bump.

love4b · September 2013

JSS1002 said:

ClandestineX said:

Businesses do not profit on breastfeeding without a cover, so there wont really be marketing for it and the reason why it isn't aired usually.

Just like with any protest.. there are your bad eggs that just hurts what they are trying to protect. To get people to stop being sensitive to it, just keep doing it, but do so without a scene. If someone is uneducated about it (Usually those types have a bigger mouth) then kindly inform them otherwise.. not go ballistic on them, even if what they are saying pisses you off to the nth degree.

No,I meant the marketing of the nurse-in and why it is an issue is all wrong. I don't expect a business to go market anything other than their goods and services, but any time you're championing for a cause, it is a form of marketing.

@JSS1002 - That's a really twisted way of looking at standing up for a cause. Just sayin'. Was the 'I have a dream' speech nothing more than an 'advertisement' for civil rights? Is it that every time someone stands up for their rights and fails, it's actually just a failure of marketing? Seems pretty heartless and sad...

ClandestineX · September 2013

Kate_C said:

JSS1002 said: Kinda like how the "occupy wall street" movement has the reputation of making everybody roll their eyes, call them dirty hippies and tell 'em to go get a job. That's because they are dirty hippies who need to get a damn job. -shaking my arthritic fist at the hippie kids- I kid. Honestly it seems like nurse ins are a bigger deal IRL to the moms participating than to anyone else. I'm not sure I've ever heard anything about them other than on the Bump.

This. I had to look up what the hell it meant. Lol. OWS was doomed from the start. You do not go wanting everyone to share everything and wanting jobs while you are listening to your $400 iPad and shitting in the park.

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