Clomid Question...Is it okay to....

lal2793 · September 2013

I have read several posts on here about clomid, and the dangers of using it unmonitored. I am currently on progesterone for the second time after not having a read period or ovulating since I stopped birth control back in April. Here's my chart:

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/42c7b9

I know it shows on here that I just ovulated, but I think the temperature change was caused by me starting progesterone.

Here's my question: My obgyn gave me clomid the other day, and I'm supposed to start it on day 3 once my withdrawal bleed starts. There was no mention of me being monitored. Would it be okay for me to take the clomid ONLY to see if I ovulate? We would not be TTC on this cycle. I just want the reassurance that I can ovulate after not having done so in so long.

Maybe this is a dumb question, but just wondering. Thanks!

duncs107 · September 2013

No, it would not be okay. Clomid should only be used for conception purposes only since it has real dangerous capabilities and can/should only be used 6 times in your life.

KingLED · September 2013

I honestly don't know that much about Clomid, so I'm going to leave that for someone else to answer. But my gut reaction is no. Any med that has a lifetime limit of how many times it can be taken is nothing to play with.

mmb248 · September 2013

No, it would not be okay to take Clomid unmonitored for any reason. One point of monitoring is to make sure that you don't have any cysts prior to taking the Clomid and to make sure that the Clomid doesn't cause you to develop any cysts. Ruptured cysts are not only painful but they can lead to internal bleeding.

The other reason you need to be monitored is to make sure that you don't overstimulate your ovaries and produce too many eggs. You know who took Clomid unmonitored? Kate Gosselin. Unless you feel the need for a reality show or a hospital visit, step away from the unmonitored Clomid.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

I heard that about Kate too but then I also read she did iui so I am not sure how true that is.

sueann911 · September 2013

slappalicious said:

mmb248 said:

No, it would not be okay to take Clomid unmonitored for any reason. One point of monitoring is to make sure that you don't have any cysts prior to taking the Clomid and to make sure that the Clomid doesn't cause you to develop any cysts. Ruptured cysts are not only painful but they can lead to internal bleeding.

The other reason you need to be monitored is to make sure that you don't overstimulate your ovaries and produce too many eggs. You know who took Clomid unmonitored? Kate Gosselin. Unless you feel the need for a reality show or a hospital visit, step away from the unmonitored Clomid.

I thought Kate was monitored. Over-stimulated. Told the cycle was canceled and not to have sex. They had sex and boom! Am I wrong?

This is how I understood it.

OP I don't get the fascination of taking Clomid just to see if you O? You want to risk medical problems for no reason at all? Why not just call your dr and ask to be monitored? Also, have you had all the proper testing done before taking Clomid?

Spookster · September 2013

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mmb248 · September 2013

slappalicious said:

mmb248 said:

No, it would not be okay to take Clomid unmonitored for any reason. One point of monitoring is to make sure that you don't have any cysts prior to taking the Clomid and to make sure that the Clomid doesn't cause you to develop any cysts. Ruptured cysts are not only painful but they can lead to internal bleeding.

The other reason you need to be monitored is to make sure that you don't overstimulate your ovaries and produce too many eggs. You know who took Clomid unmonitored? Kate Gosselin. Unless you feel the need for a reality show or a hospital visit, step away from the unmonitored Clomid.

I thought Kate was monitored. Over-stimulated. Told the cycle was canceled and not to have sex. They had sex and boom! Am I wrong?

That sounds like something Kate would do!

OP - point remains that if you take Clomid unmonitored, you wouldn't know if you had overstimulated and then you could wind up on TLC. I was going to post a pic of Kate's 6 baby bump, but it just felt too mean.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

I am on my 4th cycle of clomid and the only monitoring they do is a p4 test at 7dpo. I know quite a few people where this is the norm too. I would love to be better monitored but I am using an ob and they just don't have the time. I have been at this for 24 cycles and am on a waiting list for an RE that is still at least a 9 month wait. I had to weigh the pros and con's and hope for the best. Good luck op.

Twinkie0612 · September 2013

slappalicious said:

mmb248 said:

No, it would not be okay to take Clomid unmonitored for any reason. One point of monitoring is to make sure that you don't have any cysts prior to taking the Clomid and to make sure that the Clomid doesn't cause you to develop any cysts. Ruptured cysts are not only painful but they can lead to internal bleeding.

The other reason you need to be monitored is to make sure that you don't overstimulate your ovaries and produce too many eggs. You know who took Clomid unmonitored? Kate Gosselin. Unless you feel the need for a reality show or a hospital visit, step away from the unmonitored Clomid.
I thought Kate was monitored. Over-stimulated. Told the cycle was canceled and not to have sex. They had sex and boom! Am I wrong?

This just came up on 3T, According to her book. They over stimmed (thought they had 4 maybe 5 follicles) and the doc counseled them on the risks of multiples and let them decide if they wanted to go ahead with the IUI. They chose to do the IUI.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

GhostMonkey said:

squ1rr7y said:

I am on my 4th cycle of clomid and the only monitoring they do is a p4 test at 7dpo. I know quite a few people where this is the norm too. I would love to be better monitored but I am using an ob and they just don't have the time. I have been at this for 24 cycles and am on a waiting list for an RE that is still at least a 9 month wait. I had to weigh the pros and con's and hope for the best. Good luck op.

THEN YOU DON'T FUCKING TAKE THE DRUGS. Even the handout that comes with Clomid states that you MUST ALWAYS be monitored with ultrasounds. How do you know when you ovulated? Temping is completely worthless on Clomid. Of, you don't. I hope when you get to your RE appointment they rip you a new one for wasting all of your lifetime cycles of the easiest fix and now you get to move on to pricey injects. Good job genius.

How hard is that? And don't have the time my ass. They don't have the knowledge to interpret the u/s results.

You get your name on the wait list and you wait. Or you be stupid and risk completely destroying your fertility before you get to the appointment.

I have had no issues temping on clomid. If you don't know how to temp that is on you but it is not a waste. Also if you could read I said I go in for p4 tests at 7dpo which clearly confirms ovulation. Also just because you use clomid doesn't mean you can never do it again. You have to wait the appropriate time before using it again that is why people who have success with it use it for more than one pregnancy. I didn't say they don't have the knowledge to interpret ultrasounds my ob is busy delivery babies and where I live they don't have ultrasound machines in the room. You have to be referred to a facility. So please don't act like you know it all.

jschwind22 · September 2013

Omg @squ1rr7y please stop spewing unsafe and misinformation. I can't even!

squ1rr7y · September 2013

I never once said to anyone go ahead and do it unmonitored. I simply stated why I choose too if people could read.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

Ghost I am not sure why you have to be such a pms'ing peach. I can say I think you are a moron cause you don't know how to temp.

Twinkie0612 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

squ1rr7y said:

I am on my 4th cycle of clomid and the only monitoring they do is a p4 test at 7dpo. I know quite a few people where this is the norm too. I would love to be better monitored but I am using an ob and they just don't have the time. I have been at this for 24 cycles and am on a waiting list for an RE that is still at least a 9 month wait. I had to weigh the pros and con's and hope for the best. Good luck op.
THEN YOU DON'T FUCKING TAKE THE DRUGS. Even the handout that comes with Clomid states that you MUST ALWAYS be monitored with ultrasounds. How do you know when you ovulated? Temping is completely worthless on Clomid. Of, you don't. I hope when you get to your RE appointment they rip you a new one for wasting all of your lifetime cycles of the easiest fix and now you get to move on to pricey injects. Good job genius.

How hard is that? And don't have the time my ass. They don't have the knowledge to interpret the u/s results.

You get your name on the wait list and you wait. Or you be stupid and risk completely destroying your fertility before you get to the appointment.

I have had no issues temping on clomid. If you don't know how to temp that is on you but it is not a waste. Also if you could read I said I go in for p4 tests at 7dpo which clearly confirms ovulation. Also just because you use clomid doesn't mean you can never do it again. You have to wait the appropriate time before using it again that is why people who have success with it use it for more than one pregnancy. I didn't they don't have the knowledge to interpret ultrasounds my on is busy delivery babies and where I live they don't have ultrasound machines in the room. You have to be referred to a facility. So please don't act like you know it all.

Yeah, you might know that you ovulate using temping and 7 DPO blood work, but this doesn't tell you if your lining is thinned out to the point that implantation is impossible or if you have a large cyst that could damage your ovary or tubes. It also doesn't tell you if you are over responding and are at risk of HOM (yes some women over respond to even the lowest doses of clomid). U/s do more than confirm ovulation.

FWIW my OB would only monitored my cycle because I insisted and told me that they usually don't monitor because they don't have the time or resources. I found they had no idea how to monitor a cycle and the doc had to tell the u/s tech what to look for. After that cycle I switched to a RE and had to wait 6 weeks for a consult, then when I didn't like that RE, I had to wait 2 more weeks for a consult with my current RE. Then he ran more tests, so it was 6 months between my 1st treatment cycle and my second treatment cycle. Did the waiting suck? Sure, but being properly monitored is worth the wait.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

I completely understand I have no clue about my lining I do understand the risks however for myself I am just saying I am choosing to go ahead a try this. I don't get why everyone has to jump down my throat because of it.I know the risks I can read and I have done research. I am hoping to be like those I have known who do it this way and have healthy pregnancies. It is my choice. I am going into it eyes wide open.

mmb248 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

I completely understand I have no clue about my lining I do understand the risks however for myself I am just saying I am choosing to go ahead a try this. I don't get why everyone has to jump down my throat because of it.I know the risks I can read and I have done research. I am hoping to be like those I have known who do it this way and have healthy pregnancies. It is my choice. I am going into it eyes wide open.

Wow, I've actually never heard someone admit that their ability to have children is something they're willing to risk because of impatience.

Twinkie0612 · September 2013

Twinkie0612 said:

slappalicious said:

mmb248 said:

No, it would not be okay to take Clomid unmonitored for any reason. One point of monitoring is to make sure that you don't have any cysts prior to taking the Clomid and to make sure that the Clomid doesn't cause you to develop any cysts. Ruptured cysts are not only painful but they can lead to internal bleeding.

The other reason you need to be monitored is to make sure that you don't overstimulate your ovaries and produce too many eggs. You know who took Clomid unmonitored? Kate Gosselin. Unless you feel the need for a reality show or a hospital visit, step away from the unmonitored Clomid.
I thought Kate was monitored. Over-stimulated. Told the cycle was canceled and not to have sex. They had sex and boom! Am I wrong?

This just came up on 3T, According to her book. They over stimmed (thought they had 4 maybe 5 follicles) and the doc counseled them on the risks of multiples and let them decide if they wanted to go ahead with the IUI. They chose to do the IUI.

Thanks for clearing that up!!!!

I had always though they had sex against doctor's orders as well. This was the link posted on 3T. https://www.oprah.com/relationships/Multiple-Blessings-Book-Excerpt-Jon-and-Kate-Gosselin/6 I'll be honest, I didn't read it, because I don't really care, but apparently they went with an IUI with 4 or 5 mature follies at trigger and obviously a few more caught up.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

None of you know me or my history so think whatever you want. Bitch as much as you like. Clomid is actual even a over the counter drug is some places.

Spookster · September 2013

temping =/= monitoring

squ1rr7y · September 2013

Whatever ghost. I have had testing done. I have had all the cd3 blood work and the a p4 at 7dpo. I had a unltrasound done prior to clomid and I have also had an hsg. But you go ahead and make you assumptions that just proves what an ass you are.

jaytee16 · September 2013

@squ1rr7y - you're clearly going to do whatever you want, but please don't come on here and encourage others to make dangerous choices about their health care. Some of us don't want to jeopardize our future fertility to we can rush to popping pills, some of us are trying to go about things in the right way. And yes, the waiting sucks, but even after 15 months, I'll still wait in order to be properly tested and monitored.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

Again if people could read I never once said go ahead do it because I do it. I just said that this is the choice I made. People need to learn to read.

beckynsean11 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

Ghost I am not sure why you have to be such a pms'ing peach. I can say I think you are a moron cause you don't know how to temp.

@-)

sueann911 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:
Whatever ghost. I have had testing done. I have had all the cd3 blood work and the a p4 at 7dpo. I had a unltrasound done prior to clomid and I have also had an hsg. But you go ahead and make you assumptions that just proves what an ass you are.

This ladies and gentleman is the difference between ignorance and stupidity.

curlylocks3 · September 2013

squ1rr7y · September 2013

Yes my SO did an SA prior to clomid and his came back fine

mmb248 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

Again if people could read I never once said go ahead do it because I do it. I just said that this is the choice I made. People need to learn to read.

Because what you're doing is the same thing as going into a driver's ed class and saying, "Hey, I text and drive. It's totally dangerous but I know plenty of people who do it without getting hurt, and I'm just too impatient to wait until I can stop my car to text."

Hundreds of women will read this looking for advice on Clomid because google will bring them here. If all they saw was your response, they would think that unmonitored Clomid is a good idea. It's important that we make it clear for these women who are looking for good advice that what you are doing is NOT advised. This way, when other women read this, they'll understand that unmonitored Clomid is a horrible idea. You'd have to be a moron to do that.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

I am on metformin because I have insulin resistance but go ahead as ASSume again I am taking it for no reason.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

Though clearly hormonal not getting enough is more than welcome

duncs107 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

None of you know me or my history so think whatever you want. Bitch as much as you like. Clomid is actual even a over the counter drug is some places.

Can you please go to one of these places and stay there with no internet and live with the stupids that think this is an okay idea?

mmb248 · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

I am on metformin because I have insulin resistance but go ahead as ASSume again I am taking it for no reason.

Good for you! That sounds like proper use of a medication. However, this is not even remotely germane to the current conversation because metformin side effects don't include abnormal uterine bleeding, OHSS, or high order multiples.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

If you could read it is relevant as I was called out for using it.

Spookster · September 2013

lovelym13 said:

squ1rr7y said:

None of you know me or my history so think whatever you want. Bitch as much as you like. Clomid is actual even a over the counter drug is some places.

Can you please go to one of these places and stay there with no internet and live with the stupids that think this is an okay idea?

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Spookster · September 2013

squ1rr7y said:

Though clearly hormonal not getting enough is more than welcome

Rather be safe than sorry.

TeeJ526 · September 2013

I'm going to borrow my favorite line that's in my siggy for the nonsense squ1rr7y is spewing right now:

~Common sense is like deodorant. Those that need it the most are the ones that don't use it.~

Spookster · September 2013

+3 Team GM

AppleGrapeMSTK · September 2013

GhostMonkey said:

squ1rr7y said:

Whatever ghost. I have had testing done. I have had all the cd3 blood work and the a p4 at 7dpo. I had a unltrasound done prior to clomid and I have also had an hsg. But you go ahead and make you assumptions that just proves what an ass you are.

OMG, I just looked at your chart. You are on met too. God your OB is just treating all kinds of things they know nothing about and then not monitor you at all. Score.

I wonder if you get high blood pressure in your life if you will monitor that to make sure your meds are working at all, or if you would just assume that they are and hope you don't drop over dead because they actually caused a bigger issue than the one you started with.

For some reason, I really loved this analogy.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

HiCan said:

OP to answer your repeated question...

This just proves my point about NOT actually reading as I am not the OP but a PP.

lal2793 · September 2013

Well then...didn't see where this was heading! I just called my doctor and spoke with the nurse. She stated that they do not see negative side effects from Clomid, other than one woman who had some sore of an allergic reaction to the medication.

My guess is that many stories I'm hearing are the negative ones. Maybe I'm dumb/naive for thinking that. Women who take this drug and have success aren't going to come on these forums looking for help, whereas women who DO have negative effects will come looking for help to share similar stories. This explains why every clomid story on here seems to be a negative one.

We'll see how it goes. I truly feel like I'm not taking any risks doing this; my husband and I have prayed for direction, and we both feel like taking this medication may be what it takes to lead us in the right direction to get pregnant.

I've had a clean bill of health my whole life. No history of cysts or anything, and bloodwork taken back in June came back totally normal. My cycles before Yaz where like clockwork. I don't feel like I was being hasty by calling the doctor for help when I started having 70+ day cycles. That just didn't seem normal, and I'm glad I went.

Long story short: I'm taking clomid unmonitored, and I have faith that this will work out! Like I said, I bet there are thousands more positive stories than the handful of negative ones I've read on here.

squ1rr7y · September 2013

I can tell you my SIL and I have 2 friends who have had success with just p4 monitoring. I am not advocating that I am just saying I know other people like me who this is all the monitoring their doctors offered and they now have beautiful healthy babies.

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