I'm not much for voicing my opion when it comes to all you beautiful preggo ladies. I'm much more of a listener\supporter. Which I hope you will be for me if I need it. With all the drama the last few days I thought I would lurk on some other forums. Guess what?!?! THEY ARE JUST LIKE OURS. We live in a very diverse world. Lets love and embrace. Even if you don't 100% agree.
It's usually the people who are all puppies and rainbows who post ignorant shit like "transgenders are immoral". Do you really think people are supposed to look past that sort of thing? If people didn't make asinine remarks in the first place, they wouldn't get flamed. The "bullies" are the ones who get blamed for causing disharmony, but you can't tell me that someone isn't trying to stir the pot by posting controversial stuff to start with. The "bullies" are rarely the ones who start those kinds of posts, they are just quick to call people out for being so ignorant in a public forum.
It's usually the people who are all puppies and rainbows who post ignorant shit like "transgenders are immoral". Do you really think people are supposed to look past that sort of thing? If people didn't make asinine remarks in the first place, they wouldn't get flamed. The "bullies" are the ones who get blamed for causing disharmony, but you can't tell me that someone isn't trying to stir the pot by posting controversial stuff to start with. The "bullies" are rarely the ones who start those kinds of posts, they are just quick to call people out for being so ignorant in a public forum.
Firefly geeze! We need to take our liberal-hippy-feel-good-selves and love bigoted comments! We are all diverse but I'm always right. /sarcasm
PAL Sep challenge George Takei
Started dating in 5/9/05, Married 6/25/11
Started TTC Feb 2013, BFP #1 3/4/13 EDD 11/10/13. MMC 4/9/13 D&C 4/22/13.
BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
It's usually the people who are all puppies and rainbows who post ignorant shit like "transgenders are immoral". Do you really think people are supposed to look past that sort of thing? If people didn't make asinine remarks in the first place, they wouldn't get flamed. The "bullies" are the ones who get blamed for causing disharmony, but you can't tell me that someone isn't trying to stir the pot by posting controversial stuff to start with. The "bullies" are rarely the ones who start those kinds of posts, they are just quick to call people out for being so ignorant in a public forum.
~Missed MC at 8 weeks. D&C at 12 weeks on 4/17/13~
oh geez, it was a difference of opinion on one particular subject. Funny how you're all STILL bitching over it. The awesome thing about this country is that you can talk about it, and debate things. And I never said that "transgenders are immoral" I said that I have morals. And my morals are going to be different from yours and yours are going to be different from the person down the street.
I really strongly believe that an individual has the right to do what they want to their body, no matter who agrees or disagrees. So even though I may not agree with the transgender life-style, I still think that it's their choice to do so. I feel that way about other things too, such as abortion. I am against abortion (excluding cases of rape/incest), but that's MY choice and who am I to tell someone else they can't have one if they really want it?
It's like you said "This place will never be puppies and rainbows".. and I think that it's cool it's that way. It makes things interesting, life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
I didn't get puppies and rainbows from this post. Why is everyone so defensive and quick to pounce? I thought it was quite accurate. At the end of the day we are all going to recieve things differently. That's what it falls down to when communicating on the Internet.
oh geez, it was a difference of opinion on one particular subject. Funny how you're all STILL bitching over it. The awesome thing about this country is that you can talk about it, and debate things. And I never said that "transgenders are immoral" I said that I have morals. And my morals are going to be different from yours and yours are going to be different from the person down the street.
I really strongly believe that an individual has the right to do what they want to their body, no matter who agrees or disagrees. So even though I may not agree with the transgender life-style, I still think that it's their choice to do so. I feel that way about other things too, such as abortion. I am against abortion (excluding cases of rape/incest), but that's MY choice and who am I to tell someone else they can't have one if they really want it?
It's like you said "This place will never be puppies and rainbows".. and I think that it's cool it's that way. It makes things interesting, life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
IMO some things just shouldn't be debated or even discussed on online forums (i.e. transgender, same sex marriage or abortion). This site is about babies, if you want to discuss your views on such topics find a forum on them.
#1 BFP 26/May/2013 EDD 27/Jan/2014 MC at 5 weeks, 2 days
#2 BFP 04/Aug/2013 EDD April 18th, 2014. Baby M born May 2, 2014.
oh geez, it was a difference of opinion on one particular subject. Funny how you're all STILL bitching over it. The awesome thing about this country is that you can talk about it, and debate things. And I never said that "transgenders are immoral" I said that I have morals. And my morals are going to be different from yours and yours are going to be different from the person down the street.
I really strongly believe that an individual has the right to do what they want to their body, no matter who agrees or disagrees. So even though I may not agree with the transgender life-style, I still think that it's their choice to do so. I feel that way about other things too, such as abortion. I am against abortion (excluding cases of rape/incest), but that's MY choice and who am I to tell someone else they can't have one if they really want it?
It's like you said "This place will never be puppies and rainbows".. and I think that it's cool it's that way. It makes things interesting, life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
You may not said it verbatim, but you absolutely said it. And that is how everybody took it and you never corrected them.
Anyways, I agree that it's OK to have differences in opinion and to not agree about everything all the time. Debates are actually quite healthy in my opinion. I also think that it's OK for people to question your opinions and to disagree with you too. And there are a lot of opinions that are personally offensive to people, so everybody isn't just going to be like "oh, well that's her opinion and I'm good with that since everybody has a right to their own opinion" They're going to be defensive and pissed. And that's OK too.
I didn't get puppies and rainbows from this post. Why is everyone so defensive and quick to pounce? I thought it was quite accurate. At the end of the day we are all going to recieve things differently. That's what it falls down to when communicating on the Internet.
oh geez, it was a difference of opinion on one particular subject. Funny how you're all STILL bitching over it. The awesome thing about this country is that you can talk about it, and debate things. And I never said that "transgenders are immoral" I said that I have morals. And my morals are going to be different from yours and yours are going to be different from the person down the street.
I really strongly believe that an individual has the right to do what they want to their body, no matter who agrees or disagrees. So even though I may not agree with the transgender life-style, I still think that it's their choice to do so. I feel that way about other things too, such as abortion. I am against abortion (excluding cases of rape/incest), but that's MY choice and who am I to tell someone else they can't have one if they really want it?
It's like you said "This place will never be puppies and rainbows".. and I think that it's cool it's that way. It makes things interesting, life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
IMO some things just shouldn't be debated or even discussed on online forums (i.e. transgender, same sex marriage or abortion). This site is about babies, if you want to discuss your views on such topics find a forum on them.
I'm not the person who actually started the debate on the difference between gender and sex, I just stated my opinion on one thread. And the topic actually did begin with babies, it just got side tracked, lol.
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
I have a wonderful friend who is transgender. We grew up together and I watched her blossom into the wonderful lady she is today. It was probably the most difficult struggle I have ever watched someone live through. The hate and discrimination that this person faced when we were in college was unreal. It wasn't something that she just chose to do.
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
One thing to add, the language you used in the inital post was inflammatory. That is not a good way to potray a good solid argument, you came out swinging with the liberal feel good thing.
PAL Sep challenge George Takei
Started dating in 5/9/05, Married 6/25/11
Started TTC Feb 2013, BFP #1 3/4/13 EDD 11/10/13. MMC 4/9/13 D&C 4/22/13.
BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
oh geez, it was a difference of opinion on one particular subject. Funny how you're all STILL bitching over it. The awesome thing about this country is that you can talk about it, and debate things. And I never said that "transgenders are immoral" I said that I have morals. And my morals are going to be different from yours and yours are going to be different from the person down the street.
I really strongly believe that an individual has the right to do what they want to their body, no matter who agrees or disagrees. So even though I may not agree with the transgender life-style, I still think that it's their choice to do so. I feel that way about other things too, such as abortion. I am against abortion (excluding cases of rape/incest), but that's MY choice and who am I to tell someone else they can't have one if they really want it?
It's like you said "This place will never be puppies and rainbows".. and I think that it's cool it's that way. It makes things interesting, life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
IMO some things just shouldn't be debated or even discussed on online forums (i.e. transgender, same sex marriage or abortion). This site is about babies, if you want to discuss your views on such topics find a forum on them.
I would get bored with a board that only talked babies. We are going to be together for a while and I'd like to get to know people.
PAL Sep challenge George Takei
Started dating in 5/9/05, Married 6/25/11
Started TTC Feb 2013, BFP #1 3/4/13 EDD 11/10/13. MMC 4/9/13 D&C 4/22/13.
BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
I didn't get puppies and rainbows from this post. Why is everyone so defensive and quick to pounce? I thought it was quite accurate. At the end of the day we are all going to recieve things differently. That's what it falls down to when communicating on the Internet.
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
One thing to add, the language you used in the inital post was inflammatory. That is not a good way to potray a good solid argument, you came out swinging with the liberal feel good thing.
And I was flagged why?
Eta ooooh it's you. Thanks for flagging my charity post btw, the mods will love that.
PAL Sep challenge George Takei
Started dating in 5/9/05, Married 6/25/11
Started TTC Feb 2013, BFP #1 3/4/13 EDD 11/10/13. MMC 4/9/13 D&C 4/22/13.
BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
I didn't get puppies and rainbows from this post. Why is everyone so defensive and quick to pounce? I thought it was quite accurate. At the end of the day we are all going to recieve things differently. That's what it falls down to when communicating on the Internet.
My thoughts exactly.
--------------- Eta: separation
Jesus how fucking boring would that be.
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
One thing to add, the language you used in the inital post was inflammatory. That is not a good way to potray a good solid argument, you came out swinging with the liberal feel good thing.
And I was flagged why?
Eta ooooh it's you. Thanks for flagging my charity post btw, the mods will love that.
I'm pretty sure @paryesrain is going to be banned any minute now anyways. So no worries
When your morals cause hate and hurt you need to reevaluate them. You are more than entitled to you morals but let it be know that they will questioned. And if you are as strong in your morals as you think you would be fine debating and discussing them.
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
One thing to add, the language you used in the inital post was inflammatory. That is not a good way to potray a good solid argument, you came out swinging with the liberal feel good thing.
And I was flagged why?
Eta ooooh it's you. Thanks for flagging my charity post btw, the mods will love that.
I'm pretty sure @paryesrain is going to be banned any minute now anyways. So no worries
Trololololo Edit placement.
PAL Sep challenge George Takei
Started dating in 5/9/05, Married 6/25/11
Started TTC Feb 2013, BFP #1 3/4/13 EDD 11/10/13. MMC 4/9/13 D&C 4/22/13.
BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
I couldn't agree more. I am respectful of others, but God forbid I step outside the box on this forum and post a new idea. There are a lot of Divas around who can't tolerate a difference of opinion. I didn't stress caddy chicks in high school and I'm certainly not going to in my 30s on a preg message board. This is supposed to be fun and supportive.
I couldn't agree more. I am respectful of others, but God forbid I step outside the box on this forum and post a new idea. There are a lot of Divas around who can't tolerate a difference of opinion. I didn't stress caddy chicks in high school and I'm certainly not going to in my 30s on a preg message board. This is supposed to be fun and supportive.
Do caddy chicks carry golf bags?
PAL Sep challenge George Takei
Started dating in 5/9/05, Married 6/25/11
Started TTC Feb 2013, BFP #1 3/4/13 EDD 11/10/13. MMC 4/9/13 D&C 4/22/13.
BFP #2 7/17/13, EDD 3/29/14 ended in a CP on 7/22/13.
BFP#3 8/19/13 EDD 5/3/14 Nerdling was born 4/29/14, welcome little one!
I couldn't agree more. I am respectful of others, but God forbid I step outside the box on this forum and post a new idea. There are a lot of Divas around who can't tolerate a difference of opinion. I didn't stress caddy chicks in high school and I'm certainly not going to in my 30s on a preg message board. This is supposed to be fun and supportive.
Re: I went lurking on other forum sites
we all want the same things:
encouragement
to feel better (ms is horrid)
and to have healthy babies at the end!
Preach!
DD1- 2009, M/C- 2011, M/C- 2012, DD2- 2012, DD3- 2014
It's usually the people who are all puppies and rainbows who post ignorant shit like "transgenders are immoral". Do you really think people are supposed to look past that sort of thing? If people didn't make asinine remarks in the first place, they wouldn't get flamed. The "bullies" are the ones who get blamed for causing disharmony, but you can't tell me that someone isn't trying to stir the pot by posting controversial stuff to start with. The "bullies" are rarely the ones who start those kinds of posts, they are just quick to call people out for being so ignorant in a public forum.
/sarcasm
@Serenla @Andrewsgal @fireflygirl12
oh geez, it was a difference of opinion on one particular subject. Funny how you're all STILL bitching over it. The awesome thing about this country is that you can talk about it, and debate things. And I never said that "transgenders are immoral" I said that I have morals. And my morals are going to be different from yours and yours are going to be different from the person down the street.
I really strongly believe that an individual has the right to do what they want to their body, no matter who agrees or disagrees. So even though I may not agree with the transgender life-style, I still think that it's their choice to do so. I feel that way about other things too, such as abortion. I am against abortion (excluding cases of rape/incest), but that's MY choice and who am I to tell someone else they can't have one if they really want it?
It's like you said "This place will never be puppies and rainbows".. and I think that it's cool it's that way. It makes things interesting, life would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
DD1- 2009, M/C- 2011, M/C- 2012, DD2- 2012, DD3- 2014
You may not said it verbatim, but you absolutely said it. And that is how everybody took it and you never corrected them.
Anyways, I agree that it's OK to have differences in opinion and to not agree about everything all the time. Debates are actually quite healthy in my opinion. I also think that it's OK for people to question your opinions and to disagree with you too. And there are a lot of opinions that are personally offensive to people, so everybody isn't just going to be like "oh, well that's her opinion and I'm good with that since everybody has a right to their own opinion" They're going to be defensive and pissed. And that's OK too.
DD1- 2009, M/C- 2011, M/C- 2012, DD2- 2012, DD3- 2014
DD1- 2009, M/C- 2011, M/C- 2012, DD2- 2012, DD3- 2014
I am very strong in my morals, and I'm totally ok with having people question and debate me. Like I said, it makes life interesting. I would never want to live in a world where no one challenged anything.
@fireflygirl12 I never corrected anyone by explaining what I meant because at the time I didn't think it was worth the energy (I guess I can chalk it up to the long wave of pregnancy laziness I've had lately)
DD1- 2009, M/C- 2011, M/C- 2012, DD2- 2012, DD3- 2014
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
I would get bored with a board that only talked babies. We are going to be together for a while and I'd like to get to know people.
--------------- Eta: separation
Jesus how fucking boring would that be.
notes Christians can't be sassy. Good to know.
Like I said when your morals cause hate hurt and pain perhaps they are not in align with the same God you base your morals on. I have no doubt that as a Christian God does not call us to judge or hate others. Sadly most Christians do and stand behind this as morals. It is judgement plain and simple. Own it.
One thing to add, the language you used in the inital post was inflammatory. That is not a good way to potray a good solid argument, you came out swinging with the liberal feel good thing.
And I was flagged why?
Eta ooooh it's you. Thanks for flagging my charity post btw, the mods will love that.
And I was flagged why?
Eta ooooh it's you. Thanks for flagging my charity post btw, the mods will love that.
I'm pretty sure @paryesrain is going to be banned any minute now anyways. So no worries
Trololololo
Edit placement.