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November 2013 Moms
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UO Thursday!!
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In memory of Corbin Scott 10/28/11-12/3/11. Heaven got another angel the night you left this world behind Heaven got a little better the day it took you away from me Missing you tonight, see you again sometime For now I'll close my eyes and dream of heaven tonight I'll love you forever I'll like you for always Now and Forever My baby you'll be
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I'm an English instructor for a college (adult learners, mostly) and have been a reading teacher for children ranging in ages 5-17. I have a bit of an idea of how much time, energy and work goes in to being a teacher. That being said, since schools have started back up in my area, I feel like all my teacher pals are back on their "teaching is sooooooo hard and we are so undervalued" tirades on Facebook. I get it. Society certainly doesn't always value teachers the way they should and they aren't always compensated accordingly. Teaching IS hard. But I feel like it's the only group of professionals that's so freaking vocal about it.
"They" say, if you're passionate about what you do for a living you'd be willing to do it for free. To me, it seems teachers are getting paid for something they're passionate about (and paid enough to live within their means or in accordance with local cost of living as I understand), right? And yes, I'll add the "you get summers off" thing in there, too. You're shaping the minds and character of our future generations. That's pretty awesome regardless of how you slice it. I will always show my child's teachers respect and appreciation as a result...I know how much work you do. I don't need to be told.
Long story short...if you're unhappy with your profession and/or how your profession is treated and viewed...then consider a career change. Otherwise, stop whining.
EDIT: @babymama619 I want that burger. NOW.
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You would absolutely hate my house then. We've got 2 cameras in the baby's room, we're also going to use a regular monitor and I'm going to purchase a Snuza clip when I get paid tomorrow - but I have my own personal reasons for doing all of this.
In memory of Corbin Scott 10/28/11-12/3/11. Heaven got another angel the night you left this world behind Heaven got a little better the day it took you away from me Missing you tonight, see you again sometime For now I'll close my eyes and dream of heaven tonight I'll love you forever I'll like you for always Now and Forever My baby you'll be
corbinsmommy.blogspot.com
I'd rather teach my kids to kill bugs they see (usually stomping on them) rather than let them hold them.
I feel like they might be bittin or have a reaction to some type of catapillar or spider. Better just to have them go "Eeeww" and stomp on the dang things!
I understand some people want to just zone out for 30 minutes while the laundry is in, but why not turn on the news instead of Real Housewives? The news = the ULTIMATE reality tv! It's actually happening and has an impact on your life and/or the world around you.
I get what you're saying in that "if it bleeds, it leads", but I think it's worth getting exposure to that negativity to know what's going on around you.
Some people are completely unaware at this moment, as an example, of the situation in Syria, yet they can give you a full run down on the latest episode of Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo Boo, or Dance Moms. That level of disconnect is sad to me.
ETA Sorry I'm in your quote box, Melisx! Tried to fix but may have made it worse
...and then go back for a cupcake. ;-)
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I both agree and disagree with this. While I do not think that they should be paid $15 an hour, a lot of them are only paid minimum wage (or a little better) which is so difficult to live on. They are rarely full-time, but they get close. If they are working 35 hrs a week and then pick up a second job at 20 hours a week, that has them working 55 hours a week for very little pay, and they still have day care expenses and things to consider. I think a fair living wage would be more reasonable. Also, it is not just teenage kids with an afterschool job that work in food service. It is adults with households and children to support. I think at least $10 is reasonable.
You do realize $10/hr after taxes is about $7.50, right? Why shouldn't we want everyone to get paid well? Just because I'm suffering forcing mean I want everyone else to as well. Cooks also work in like 120 degree kitchens and care for my food! I want every incentive possible to make sure it's healthy.
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My problem with $15/hour is this. I don't make that much more than that in a non-fast food job with a degree - this isn't my issue though. I just see that if they start making $15/hour, people who work other jobs that have degrees and make less (I started out of college making $12/hour) will start applying for and getting these jobs and then these people that are wanting $15/hour will complain that they can't even get fast-food jobs because they're not available. It just seems like doing this is going to solve nothing. They'll just find something else to complain about.
In memory of Corbin Scott 10/28/11-12/3/11. Heaven got another angel the night you left this world behind Heaven got a little better the day it took you away from me Missing you tonight, see you again sometime For now I'll close my eyes and dream of heaven tonight I'll love you forever I'll like you for always Now and Forever My baby you'll be
corbinsmommy.blogspot.com
I am one of those displaced workers. I went from being a licensed insurance and financial agent to being a custodian. I have worked my ass off to climb the managerial ladder. I have moved up twice in the last year. If I work hard I can go as far as making 75k for the highest paid managerial position in my department. Right now, I make 27k. I don't think someone who is on the bottom rung of a similar job should make more than those striving to climb the ladder. Do I think they should make more than minimum wage? Yes. Oh, and I am salary, so some weeks I make less than minimum wage due to how many hours I put in.
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LJGS1010 - this is the UO post
I don't totally disagree with you, there are most definitely those that are busting their ass and not getting where they want to be, however, my UO is the same. While there are exceptions to every majority, I think it's safe to say that the majority of the adult age fast food employees are not the self motivated go getters that are focusted on climbing the corporate ladder and busting ass to get where they want to be in life. Unpopular opinion...you bet it probably is, generalization, probably. Uncalled for, nope. I am 39 years old, not a grandmother, but of the opinion that you reap what you sow. sick of the attitude of entitlement.
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The average minimum wage worker is no longer a teenager in high school. See: https://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-fast-food-protests-20130829,0,5191267.story
I quote: "The fast-food industry used to employ mostly younger people just trying
to make some extra money as they went through school. Now, workers are
older and depend on the work to feed families. Analysis by the Economic
Policies Institute shows that the average age of minimum-wage workers is
now 35, and that 88% are 20 and older."
Higher education is no longer a guarantee of a better, well-paying job -- it can be, but it can also lead to no job and a boatload of debt. Most jobs being created today are part time and low-wage (see https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/08/04/part-time-low-wage-jobs/2613483/). People with higher education are more frequently resorting to those part time, low-wage jobs, because they can't find anything else to support their families. This is the new normal, and if it continues this way the middle class will be completely wiped out.
I don't know where you live, but $12/hour wouldn't even come close to supporting a family in my state. Even $15/hour doesn't cut it here. When I first graduated from law school, I spent a year doing a legal fellowship at a non-profit. My firm paid me a reduced salary for that year that amounted to about $26/hour. I was supporting myself and my H on I went to college and got a degree. I started in my field in 1994 at approx $6.00 per hour (less than $13,000 a year). 20 years later, after a LOT of hard work, dedication, and drive, I'm fortunate to be making 6 times that . Times have changed signifiCantly in terms of cost of living, HOWEVER, these days it's all about instant gratification, expectations and entitlement. I made the responsible (and many times very difficuLT) choices that made sense for my future. I've worked my ass off to get where I am. Why shouldn't those that expect higher wages and success be responsible for their own advancement? You start at the bottom and move up through hard work and respect. WHY is this now considered a burden too difficult to bear? Accountability and personal responsibility are values that are all but gone, and it's situations
such as this that have caused
it. This is likely going to get me flamed but if you are over 30 with children and working at McDonalds, there were choices made somewhere along the line that could have been better. You are not entitled to make $30,000 a year just by being a citizen of the United States. WORK YOUR ASS OFF AND YOU WILL GET IT WHEN YOU HAVE EARNED IT.
I couldn't agree more!! I put myself through college and worked 2 jobs at times to get where I am! I currently work a State job, which requires a degree and I only make $16.00/hour, in an area where the COLA is high! I busted my ass for a very long time and have not once bitched about how much I make...I understand that I have to eat some shit before I get to the top and if that means means working in my chosen field to gain experience so I can move up and make more money then I will do it. There are various reasons people work in low-income positions and at the end of the day if they don't like where they are then they need to do something to climb the ladder instead of complaining about what they make!! I bet everyone will start bitching the second the price of a hamburger goes up or it suddenly costs more to purchase fruits and veggies because the business will have to compensate for the extreme pay raises they will be forced to give...guess what? That gets passed to the consumer....
My husband is one of those. He joined after he got both an AA and a BS and worked in the civilian world for several years. He felt it was his duty and his honor to serve his country. We live very frugally and have no debt beyond student loans which are also minimal because we both worked through college. We also waited until our late 20's to start our family. His boot camp class was 50 percent college grads many of whom could not find a financially stable job in the current economy. DH has moved ranks quicker than anyone else in any of his units so far because he works hard and cares. We've been moved 4 times in the last 2.5 years which makes it difficult for me to find a long term job even with my degree. We do not get a food stipend and there is not on base housing at our current unit. So we live off BAH which is adequate for a few places but definitely not where we live now. We live very frugally and make it work but not without a lot of sacrifices.
I think if you are 18 it is more than enough to live off of and is more than you'd make at another job with your limited education and experience. But when you have more job and education experience than your CO's and are 30 years old with a family, the pay just doesn't cut it. Yes, I am grateful every day that we have enough to make it work and I am grateful for the medical benefits but I do not think the military pay has caught up with the demographics of those enlisting and is one reason the turn over rate is so high.
I consider myself a "pumpkin hipster." I was obsessed with it before it was cool and they started "pumpkin-ing" everything they could get their hands on.
It's ok, I still like you too. :-)
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I agree that blue collar jobs should be much more respected than they are. I am so proud of my SO he is currently going through an apprenticeship for Pipefitters and Plumbers and in a few years will make a very decent wage. Not everyone should go to college. I went to college, got a degree, and I still do not use my degree because there is not much in my area and with my major (Biology) normally people go on for more school.
With all the talk of pumpkin flavored things, I'm going to AW and admit I was SO excited to pull this (first of the year!) little fella out of my garden the other day. It is going to be delicious as pumpkin muffins