I give up

chance_encounters · August 2013

To this point I have refused to sleep train or CIO. Well for the past 4 nights DS has slept horribly! I tried to let him fuss it out on the first couple times he wakes up...but dh does not like to let him fuss and goes to get him after less than 5 min. Well DH is going on a business trip for 3 days. I know this is wishful thinking but I am hoping to train him in 3 days. For the last few days this is what I have experienced: 8pm sleep 10 wake 11:30 wake 1:30 wake 2:30 wake 3:30 wake 5am wake 6:30 up for the day He is EBF ( well not true he eats solids 2x a day too). Most of th time I nurse him back to sleep but others I just rock him back to sleep or put him in his swing. I obviously do not have time to read a full sleep book today so please give me a readers digest version of something that is not a complete CIO. Thanks!

kjsmith9 · August 2013

This is what we do (basically a modified CIO):

Nurse at bedtime. When she unlatches, I give her her paci and lay her down.

If she wakes up in the first 3-4 hours, I let her cry for 3 minutes, then go in and give her the paci back, shush her until she is calm, and then leave again. I'm never in the room for more than 2 minutes, and I never talk to her. If she continues to cry, I go in every 5 minutes (and do what I listed above). After the first few nights, I never had to go in more than 2 or 3 times.

If she wakes after about 4 hours and is crying, I figure she might actually be hungry so I'll nurse her. Then we start the above stuff again.

We started doing this around 5.5 months, and after 2 or 3 days she started doing MUCH better, and STTN from 6 months until about a week ago (8.5 months). She's going through a growth spurt / 9 month sleep regression, so things have been a bit rough again. But last night she only woke once so I think we're almost back to normal!

babygirlva2013 · August 2013

Your LO sounds just like mine did before sleep training. She was waking every 1 to 2 hrs just like yours. Awful! But we did sleep training using the Ferber method when she was just shy of 6 months. I did the normal bedtime routine, gave her her bottle, then laid her in her crib and left the room. She started to cry so I went in after 3 minutes, then 5, then 7, then 10. I didnt pick her up, just talked to her and rubbed her back. wasnt in there long. The first night it is only supposed to be 10 minutes as the longest time you are out. My DD only cried for 20 minutes the first night. Did the same thing for naps the next day (which is definetly harder). After a few days she was sleeping so much better. If she woke in the middle of the night, I would feed her. She usually only woke once though, good luck!

thatoneredhead · August 2013

My pedi's suggested sleep training is the 3 night method (or so he says /:) First night, you soothe every 5. 2nd you soothe every 10, and the last night every 15min.

I read the sleep lady shuffle. She basically suggests to stand next to the crib and offer comfort. Soon you move away a little, soon a little more, soon you're at the door. It kind of seemed like way too much effort. It's still CIO. I would rather do it quick and dirty than drag it out for a week or 2.

Bottle night weaning was easy for me. I just gradually dropped off ounces and now he just gets water. I dont know how that would work with BFing.

JJ_13 · August 2013

I know you said you don't have time to read a book but you can gather info on line regarding the sleep lady shuffle. The PP described it relatively well, although not in enough detail for you to get the full picture. Also, FWIW, I very much disagree with PP - do not consider the Shuffle to be CIO. When we were doing it, if my LO got really upset, I picked her up (the book - and my mama instinct - says that is totally fine!). To me, that's just not "CIO". Yes, you avoid picking them up unless they are truly upset and generally prefer to use verbal, light touch to soothe them instead, but either way, I don't consider it CIO since you're with them and comforting them during the training. My LO took to it pretty easily and within 3 days could put herself down to sleep and went to waking 1 - 2 times/night (which I considered to be totally normal for her age) and went from taking 20 min. cat naps to 60 - 120 minute real naps. And, this was going from a baby that we had to rock/nurse to sleep several times/night and put her down ever-so-gently praying that she wouldn't wake up so we could get 45 minutes of sleep.

Obviously, I'm a fan. That said, I do think all babies are different and it doesn't work for some babies. Good luck!

MrsT0514 · August 2013

OP, I feel for you. We're currently going thru sleep hell in our house too. I'm on mobile, so I can't see exactky how old you LO is, but my DS is just about 8 months and has gone from STTN 11-12 hours to waking every 1-2 hours all night now. Talk about major sleep regression. Its awful. I originally blamed teething, but even after trying Motrin before bed, he's still waking up all night.

I can't blame you for wanting to sleep train. GL and hope all goes smoothly! I'm sort of at a loss as to hos to handle my situation, and it seems to be a newfound issue. Do I try to retrain? I really didn't need to sleep train the first time around, so im not sure if this is a wait it out type of thing or not. Either way, I'm tired and can certainly commiserate!
Eta sorry for hijacking your thread...this subject is just hitting the nail on the head for me right now!

chance_encounters · August 2013

MrsT0514 said:

OP, I feel for you. We're currently going thru sleep hell in our house too. I'm on mobile, so I can't see exactky how old you LO is, but my DS is just about 8 months and has gone from STTN 11-12 hours to waking every 1-2 hours all night now. Talk about major sleep regression. Its awful. I originally blamed teething, but even after trying Motrin before bed, he's still waking up all night. I can't blame you for wanting to sleep train. GL and hope all goes smoothly! I'm sort of at a loss as to hos to handle my situation, and it seems to be a newfound issue. Do I try to retrain? I really didn't need to sleep train the first time around, so im not sure if this is a wait it out type of thing or not. Either way, I'm tired and can certainly commiserate! Eta sorry for hijacking your thread...this subject is just hitting the nail on the head for me right now!

Not worried about you hijacking the post

. So I have done the sleep whisperer method since I posted this. It seemed like one of the most gentle methods out there. Last night DS finally sttn!! My DS is 7 1/2 months. I guess sleep regression is common between 7-8 months (after talking to a dr.). sleep training is very common to have to repeat at this age. Good luck

MrsT0514 · August 2013

@chance_encounters Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear the sleep training worked for your DS! And yes, i also heard that a sleep regression around this time is common, so its great compare notes with someone else going thru the same stuff.

Like I said, this is definitely a newfound issue for us, so its been a bit rough on us, but last night we let him just fuss for a few minutes before going in and checking on him and although he still woke a couple times, it was really only for a few minutes and he'd fall back asleep. So its progress!

MrsT0514 · August 2013

Also, I will add, the strange part of all of this has been the fact that although his nighttime sleep has been less than stellar, he's been taking awesome naps! Which were always astruggle for us previously. Gotta love how they're always switching it up for us.

chance_encounters · August 2013

MrsT0514 that is great! Naps have been pretty consistent for us

it has been just night time.

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