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echogenic foci and fluid on the kidney--stressed out

kakleibokakleibo member
in December 2013 Moms
I just wanted to know if anyone out there has this same combination of findings on their ultrasound.  I seem to be going through waves of hope and calmness and waves of panic and fear.  Statistically there's a good chance it's nothing, but when I went for a follow-up ultrasound (I'm now 23 weeks) and hoping the previously discovered kidney issue had resolved itself, they found that not only was there no change in the excessive fluid on the kidney, but they also spotted an echogenic foci (apparently a calcium deposit in the heart).  I think the 100% accurate down syndrome blood test well help calm me and allow me to enjoy the rest of my pregnancy, regardless of the outcome.  Thoughts, prayers, similar stories out there all welcome.
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Re: echogenic foci and fluid on the kidney--stressed out

  • 74dragonfly74dragonfly member
    Sending you prayers. Btw is the kidney issue treatable?




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  • ScarlettVScarlettV member
    So sorry :( no experience but fingers crossed for a good outcome. A lot if times these ultra sounds freak is the heck out, only for it to end up bring nothing in the end.
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  • penelopemariapenelopemaria member
    Sorry you're going through this. I had an echo on his heart at my a/s. I saw my OB yesterday and her exact words were: they need to stop fucking screening for this. You're my 2nd foci today and in 20 years I have never seen a foci turn into something significant. I wasn't even given a F/U U/S. she told me not to give it a second thought.

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  • mightymousymightymousy member
    Sorry you're dealing with this :( good luck
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  • gcama85gcama85 member
    Worrying about these soft markers stinks. I also had one at my a/s 8 weeks ago and the doctor told me not to worry. At first, I was a nervous wreck, but I got a follow up level II ultrasound and was reassured that everything else looked good and the odds of anything being wrong were very very small. Did they recommend any specific follow up? Are you definitely doing the bloodwork? Many many women deal with soft markers at ultrasounds, and more often than not, it all turns out fine! Good luck!
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  • mamaj1220mamaj1220 member
    I just went through this with LO. The high risk doctor told me that if there are no other triggers for Down's he doesn't worry about the deposits as much. My LO has two in his heart that all the dr wants to keep track of is growth :). His kidneys were also retaining fluid but again he's not worried saying that a lot of baby boys do this while their kidneys get in order. If you need to talk feel free to PM me!
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  • kakleibokakleibo member
    KKDRAGONFLY said:
    Sending you prayers. Btw is the kidney issue treatable?
    The kidney issue can be anything from an issue that will resolve on its own prior to birth, to needing surgery right after he is born, to being a marker for a genetic disorder (one of which could be Down Syndrome).  So quite the variation . . . 
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    gcama85 said:
    Worrying about these soft markers stinks. I also had one at my a/s 8 weeks ago and the doctor told me not to worry. At first, I was a nervous wreck, but I got a follow up level II ultrasound and was reassured that everything else looked good and the odds of anything being wrong were very very small. Did they recommend any specific follow up? Are you definitely doing the bloodwork? Many many women deal with soft markers at ultrasounds, and more often than not, it all turns out fine! Good luck!
    Yes, so I'm already with a specialist, and this was my second ultrasound.  My next ultrasound isn't scheduled until 32 weeks. . . . If the kidney problem persists I'll probably start researching the best pediatric urologist in town and have him or her lined up to see the baby as soon as he is born.  I couldn't sleep so I went ahead and did the 100% dispositive Down Syndrome test (you don't have to do an amnio anymore), but I'm now playing the waiting game.  Results to follow in 8-14 business days.  (sigh).
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  • notthecheatnotthecheat member
    Vesicoureteral reflux doesn't run in your family, does it? Its a fairly benign condition that causes varying degrees of urine reflux from the bladder to the kidneys. Its generally hereditary, more common in girls, and most "grow out of it" by around age 5. My mom and sister grew out of it, but I needed corrective surgery just before age 8. Even then it has barely affected my life, and I've been fine since.
    My friend has a 2year old in whom they saw this on the fetal US, and is being monitored (checkup every so often) for it, but that's it.

    Just offering one explanation of what the extra kidney fluid could be if its actually something, but it sounds like it is probably not even that serious. And if for whatever reason it does turn out to be vesicoureteral reflux, from a personal opinion, its really not the worst medical condition to have if you have to have one.

    Probably it is too early to tell what it is, if it is even anything. They just know its there now so they can keep an eye on it just in case.

    The foci unfortunately I know nothing about.

    Sorry that you have to deal with all the stress of not knowing and what-ifs. Ts and Ps everything is perfectly fine.
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