FFFC...and no, they're not flame free.

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

My FFFC is that I LOVE Kim and Kanye and was so excited to see baby North West!!!

Ktrue85 · August 2013

Soozerella said:

Ktrue85 said:

@nicholssquared I just wanted to say I appreciated your thought out reply even though I kindly agree to disagree. But that's okay because I have chocolate and will share.

someone just told me that there was chocolate cake in another department.. 10:30 is time for cake right?

The answer to this question will always be yes, no matter what time of day the cake is available.

MarieC78 · August 2013

@nicholssquared said:

Soozerella - since it was requested, I'm going to answer your question here! Warning, it's long, and I only work half-days on Friday, so I won't be back to check responses until Monday, sorry in advance.....

I don't follow the same beliefs that you do, but wanted to acknowledge how well and respectfully you explained your position. appreciated!

nicholssquared · August 2013

SoMoNY said:

My friends son was shot 3 times and died in the Sandy Hook shooting

He was 6 years old and nearly EVERY ONE in class was killed.
(one little girl survived by playing dead)

A child with autism died in his TA arms, another had his jaw blown away and another was shot between the eyes.

Sorry but I'm not buying the god exists and has a plan fairy tale

I'm truly sorry for your friend's loss, and everyone who was affected by it. Truly. None of those children or teachers deserved to die the way they did, and I can't even imagine the pain that those families are going through, and you as well. My Christian faith doesn't make me a callous bitch. I cried my eyes out over the Sandy Hook shootings and I have over many other injustices in the world.

To some people, the faith in God that maybe that terrible incident, and others, might have some meaning, might give them some peace, though. And isn't that mercy? Saying that God doesn't exist might be doing them more harm then good emotionally - I don't know, I don't know them, but it's a possibility.

From a logical perspective, these terrible things don't logically disprove God, as awful and heart-wrenching as they are. In the Christian view, God gave us free will, and we chose to sin. Everyone is created with the inclination to sin. So because terrible people choose to sin and cause great and hideous suffering and pain in the world, it doesn't mean that God doesn't exist, or that he approves. These people did these things in spite of what God wanted for them, not because of him.

nicholssquared · August 2013

And for all those that respectfully disagree, thanks for listening and being respectful in spite of your beliefs. It's really though discussion that understanding and acceptance happen. Telling people to STFU if they don't agree with you doesn't help anybody. Not that anyone said that in this thread, but it's been said before about other things. FLAME THE N00BS!

In other news, chocolate is good!

SoMoNY · August 2013

mrsashleyk said:

SoMoNY said:

My friends son was shot 3 times and died in the Sandy Hook shooting

He was 6 years old and nearly EVERY ONE in class was killed.
(one little girl survived by playing dead)

A child with autism died in his TA arms, another had his jaw blown away and another was shot between the eyes.

Sorry but I'm not buying the god exists and has a plan fairy tale

Did that have to be said like that? Or am I just being sensitive?

The truth bothers people?

Bothers me that someone writes things off like these as being part of some mythical persons plan. And to say suffering could be good? I wish that person could see what my friends and her husband have gone through over the past 8+ months and what they'll go through every day for the rest of their lives.

SoMoNY · August 2013

superspecialsnowflake said:

mrsashleyk said:

SoMoNY said:

My friends son was shot 3 times and died in the Sandy Hook shooting

He was 6 years old and nearly EVERY ONE in class was killed.
(one little girl survived by playing dead)

A child with autism died in his TA arms, another had his jaw blown away and another was shot between the eyes.

Sorry but I'm not buying the god exists and has a plan fairy tale

Did that have to be said like that? Or am I just being sensitive?

Definitely could have been worded better. Also don't like the "fairy tale" comment. Wouldn't be the first time SoMoNY said something side-eye worthy.

Do you believe in Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy?

So you really believe the universe was created in 6 days?

hat a flood covered the earth?

That Noah took two of each species on a boat and then lived to be 100s of years old? Or that black people exist because his son saw him naked?

lollipoppoop · August 2013

Heaven802002 said:

My FFFC is that I LOVE Kim and Kanye and was so excited to see baby North West!!!
I don't know about kanye but i do like Kim. And I am much more interested in their baby than the royal baby. At least they're from here! Lol

Not a fan of Kanye either. Kim is OK I LOVE Kourtney and Khloe they crack me up.

Ktrue85 · August 2013

Okay to totally switch gears here, my other FFFC is that H pays his workers to come and clean up our yard for us every two weeks or so. H owns a landscape design/install company so these guys are used to working outdoors for him already. I know it's money that we don't need to spend, but at the same time I'm not the one who is responsible for mowing the lawn/weeding the beds/etc., so I feel like I can't really say shit about it. (I guess that could be another FFFC in and of itself, but I truly have bad allergies and so H just always does the outside stuff and I do indoor.)

nofcksgiven · August 2013

Since we've been talking God, here's my "I don't say it to other people much confession."
I hate it when people try to comfort others with God. If you know someone has the same beliefs as you, that's one thing. If you don't know, just stop with the "God's plan" crap.
I'll never forget an email I received when I lost my great grandfather. It was scripture talking about how believers will be with God. They went on to say that he's good now, because he's with The Lord. The only problem was that my grandfather had no faith in God and didn't want it.
I've heard it countless times and it's never brought me any comfort- only more pain. It never fails to piss me off.

bishesbcrazy · August 2013

Meggie0421 said:

Since we've been talking God, here's my "I don't say it to other people much confession." I hate it when people try to comfort others with God. If you know someone has the same beliefs as you, that's one thing. If you don't know, just stop with the "God's plan" crap. I'll never forget an email I received when I lost my great grandfather. It was scripture talking about how believers will be with God. They went on to say that he's good now, because he's with The Lord. The only problem was that my grandfather had no faith in God and didn't want it. I've heard it countless times and it's never brought me any comfort- only more pain. It never fails to piss me off.

I completely agree. While I have my own faith, I can't insinuate that others have the same unless it has been made clear.

notkateanymore · August 2013

mrsashleyk said:

SoMoNY said:

My friends son was shot 3 times and died in the Sandy Hook shooting

He was 6 years old and nearly EVERY ONE in class was killed.
(one little girl survived by playing dead)

A child with autism died in his TA arms, another had his jaw blown away and another was shot between the eyes.

Sorry but I'm not buying the god exists and has a plan fairy tale

Did that have to be said like that? Or am I just being sensitive?

It's harsh but it illustrates her point. And god knows I'm not her biggest fan.

KFED103 · August 2013

SoMoNY said:

superspecialsnowflake said:

mrsashleyk said:

SoMoNY said:

My friends son was shot 3 times and died in the Sandy Hook shooting

He was 6 years old and nearly EVERY ONE in class was killed.
(one little girl survived by playing dead)

A child with autism died in his TA arms, another had his jaw blown away and another was shot between the eyes.

Sorry but I'm not buying the god exists and has a plan fairy tale

Did that have to be said like that? Or am I just being sensitive?

Definitely could have been worded better. Also don't like the "fairy tale" comment. Wouldn't be the first time SoMoNY said something side-eye worthy.

Do you believe in Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy?

So you really believe the universe was created in 6 days?

hat a flood covered the earth?

That Noah took two of each species on a boat and then lived to be 100s of years old?
Or that black people exist because his son saw him naked?

Oh seriously come on now. The great majority of Christians do not believe these things and please do not use them to discredit the entire notion that the Bible can and should provide some basis and guidance in ones personal religious beliefs.

notkateanymore · August 2013

MarieC78 said:

jess'c'squared said:

I'm putting the disclaimer out there that I like all of you ladies, I don't have any problems with a single poster and I don't have anyone on a "post it note". I would like to also say that I do find that you ladies are very sympathetic and supportive.

Okay, here goes...deep breath, flame retardant suit on .

My FFFC is that I think, at times, some of the ladies on this board lack empathy. They are very quick to tell others how they're a horrible person for feeling the way that they do in certain situations, some times it's warranted, but more often it's not.

I know a lot of times I wouldn't react the way some of the posters do, but it's not my place to negate someone else's feelings and to tell them they're pieces of shit, horrible friends and wives, etc, because I don't agree with their actions/feelings.

No one is the same and people are going to react differently in certain situations. How would you feel if you had some kind of irrational feeling and people gave you nothing but shit about it? Deserved or not, it wouldn't be the best feeling.

I know, I know...this is the internet, public message board, not besties, etc. I'm not asking for puppies and rainbows, but you can always tell someone how they're overreacting being irrational without tearing someone down.

I think it is easy to be honest (to a fault) when you don't have to look someone in the face and say it.

Well, I for one am the exact same person on here as I am in real life, though none of my friends make as crappy decisions as some people seem to on here. I agree that some of the responses are over the top sometimes, but when it's the same poster over and over posting the same drama, it gets old.

nofcksgiven · August 2013

mrsashleyk said:

jess'c'squared said:

I completely agree. While I have my own faith, I can't insinuate that others have the same unless it has been made clear.

I don't know why people take offense to this. That's there way of finding comfort and I think it's nice that they want to share that comfort with you. Some of my in-laws practice Reiki. I don't get offended when they offer to do reiki over a photo of me instead of sending flowers while I'm in the hospital. That's just what they do and it's the thought that counts.

Here's the difference: when I'm told believers will be at peace with The Lord, and the person I'm grieving wasn't a believer, the other option is that they're burning in hellfire for eternity.
I'm pretty sure that's not how it works with reiki.

bishesbcrazy · August 2013

Soozerella said:

Meggie0421 said:

jess'c'squared said:
I completely agree. While I have my own faith, I can't insinuate that others have the same unless it has been made clear.

I don't know why people take offense to this. That's there way of finding comfort and I think it's nice that they want to share that comfort with you. Some of my in-laws practice Reiki. I don't get offended when they offer to do reiki over a photo of me instead of sending flowers while I'm in the hospital. That's just what they do and it's the thought that counts.
Here's the difference: when I'm told believers will be at peace with The Lord, and the person I'm grieving wasn't a believer, the other option is that they're burning in hellfire for eternity. I'm pretty sure that's not how it works with reiki.

I was going to comment something about this too.. I've talked with people who believe that armageddon is going to happen and god's going to take away everyone who worshiped him and leave everyone else (including people of other Christian beliefs) to die in some sort of inferno.

My parents are pretty involved in the Church but they believe that the Bible is a teaching guide. My Dad got up during Bible class one night and in front of the entire congregation said that no one can sit there and tell him that his in-laws (my Mom's parents) weren't going to heaven bc they didn't believe in the specific teachings of the denomination bc they are the kindest, most helpful people you will ever meet.

I wasn't there, but when my Mom told me, I was pretty proud.

grannyweatherwax · August 2013

Well, hell. I came here to post that I'm baking a cake today and another one next Friday for 2 coworkers who are leaving work. One I barely know and the other I loathe (she is my bitch eating crackers).

I volunteered because of my deep obsession with cake. I don't even care.

And here is a giant debate on religion and now I feel silly. Still, I get cake.

MEP923 · August 2013

pirategirlpink said:
Well, hell. I came here to post that I'm baking a cake today and another one next Friday for 2 coworkers who are leaving work. One I barely know and the other I loathe (she is my bitch eating crackers).

I volunteered because of my deep obsession with cake. I don't even care.

And here is a giant debate on religion and now I feel silly. Still, I get cake.

I took my son out to lunch and I come back to a religion debate. I'm on mobile but insert Homer Simpson backing into a bush gif

grannyweatherwax · August 2013

MEP923 said:

Well, hell. I came here to post that I'm baking a cake today and another one next Friday for 2 coworkers who are leaving work. One I barely know and the other I loathe (she is my bitch eating crackers).

I volunteered because of my deep obsession with cake. I don't even care.

And here is a giant debate on religion and now I feel silly. Still, I get cake.
I took my son out to lunch and I come back to a religion debate. I'm on mobile but insert Homer Simpson backing into a bush gif

here you are

MEP923 · August 2013

pirategirlpink said:

MEP923 said:

pirategirlpink said:
Well, hell. I came here to post that I'm baking a cake today and another one next Friday for 2 coworkers who are leaving work. One I barely know and the other I loathe (she is my bitch eating crackers).

I volunteered because of my deep obsession with cake. I don't even care.

And here is a giant debate on religion and now I feel silly. Still, I get cake.
I took my son out to lunch and I come back to a religion debate. I'm on mobile but insert Homer Simpson backing into a bush gif

here you are

Thanks!!

And SSS, you have the best pics ever.

kate14 · August 2013

Totally off topic but my UO is that I think breastfeeding past 1 year starts to get ify. Once the kid is over 2 I think it's completely disgusting. I know that the new opionion it to breastfeed until the kid wants to stop by once the kid has teeth and can talk it just seem very wrong to me!

serend · August 2013

My sister that is planning the shower was sharing some of her ideas a couple of weeks ago. One of them is the bring/sign a book instead of a card thing. I actually really like this idea and still do. Even after reading on the bump that it's tacky.

cammyisagirlsname · August 2013

About the god thing..

I'm not sure I believe either. I've never been religious nor has my family. But if there really was a god, why does all this terrible shit have to happen. My husband works in Newtown where the terrible shooting took place, and I'm sorry, but that entire thing just hit way too close to home for me. Merciful? For real?

I can't.

MEP923 · August 2013

Soozerella said:

superspecialsnowflake said:

MEP923 said:

Thanks!! And SSS, you have the best pics ever.

Thanks, but that honor is held forever by dontstopbelievin.

You are both hysterical.

Meynara · August 2013

I'm going to be the weirdo who is religious, but isn't Christian in any way, shape, or form. That said, I do think someone (or a few someones) exist up above/around us and watch over us, but I don't think they interfere for everything because we have free will. The idea of suffering to attain spiritual healing is rather odd to me, and I'm very much a proponent of people having a choice in how their lives are led, whether it's wanting to end their life due to extreme suffering, or choosing to keep alive to do what they can. However, while I'm pretty set in my odd set of beliefs, I do get uncomfortable when people get preachy on me when something bad happens, and believe me, they do here in Texas, or at least the places I've lived. If it makes you feel better to pray to your view of God over something, then please, do so. Don't come to me and just randomly pray over me while I'm desperately wanting to get away somewhere quiet so I can think and try to relax! That said, I do appreciate it when people come up and ASK if they can do so. It still feels awkward, but nowhere near as awkward as it just happening out of the blue.

And now that I've contributed to the serious religious topic, I'm gonna go whip up some Oreo no-bake cake. Because cake is awesome.

Oh. I guess I should toss a confession out there. Um. I'm one of those people who doesn't watch what I eat the vast majority of the time. I avoid foods that give me heartburn, and I avoid some of the pregnancy no-nos, but other than that, I eat what I want, when I want, and feel absolutely no guilt over it. My breakfast this morning? Cookies.

ScarlettV · August 2013

My FFFC is why the *F is there a religious debate happening in here? Do any of you seriously think you're going to change someone else's mind/beliefs based off a two paragraph forum post?

lollipoppoop · August 2013

ColeRose said:

Ohhh I have one more. I don't think I'm a prude I really don't but I don't understand the excessive sex talk on the board. Like banging it out fine but anal and blowies and making posts just about the fact that you had sex with no other discussion piece makes no sense to me.

I know, I know I'm going to buy some pearls to go clutch now.

This was going to be my FFFC lol

ScarlettV · August 2013

mrsashleyk said:

ScarlettV said:

My FFFC is why the *F is there a religious debate happening in here? Do any of you seriously think you're going to change someone else's mind/beliefs based off a two paragraph forum post?

Debates on any topic very rarely change somebody else's beliefs. They usually just end up solidifying your own.

(:|

ScarlettV · August 2013

CitrusXoXo said:

ColeRose said:

Ohhh I have one more. I don't think I'm a prude I really don't but I don't understand the excessive sex talk on the board. Like banging it out fine but anal and blowies and making posts just about the fact that you had sex with no other discussion piece makes no sense to me.

I know, I know I'm going to buy some pearls to go clutch now.

This was going to be my FFFC lol

Im jealous because I can't have it.

lollipoppoop · August 2013

ScarlettV said:

ColeRose said:

Ohhh I have one more. I don't think I'm a prude I really don't but I don't understand the excessive sex talk on the board. Like banging it out fine but anal and blowies and making posts just about the fact that you had sex with no other discussion piece makes no sense to me.

I know, I know I'm going to buy some pearls to go clutch now.

This was going to be my FFFC lol
Im jealous because I can't have it.

That may be my problem too

notkateanymore · August 2013

ColeRose said:

superspecialsnowflake said:

CitrusXoXo said:

ColeRose said:

Ohhh I have one more. I don't think I'm a prude I really don't but I don't understand the excessive sex talk on the board. Like banging it out fine but anal and blowies and making posts just about the fact that you had sex with no other discussion piece makes no sense to me.

I know, I know I'm going to buy some pearls to go clutch now.

This was going to be my FFFC lol

That was my UO last week. ...says the girl who just FFFCed about having lezzy dreams.

El oh el not the same imo.

Yes you'll need to start a poll about it with graphic detail for it to be the same.

lp0 · August 2013

M&H2011 said:

Meggie0421 said:

KateVA said:
I can't even begin to comprehend celebrating 'viability' at 24 weeks. I get that it might mean more to a women who had a late miscarriage but still. 16 weeks premature does not meet my definition of viable

I'll absolutely breathe a little easier when I know my child has a chance to live should the worst come to the worst.
No one wants a micropreemie. No one wants to have a baby at 24 weeks. But there IS something comforting knowing that it's not hopeless should your baby come at that point.

So I guess my FFFC (which is probably pretty flammable) is that I don't always think it's better off that a child/person survives if that means they will have a lifetime of pain, surgeries, etc. As hard as it would be to lose a child or loved one I would never want to see them severely suffer. I'm not talking about mild disabilities I'm talking about the individual actually suffering in pain and having to endure treatments, surgeries, etc over and over again. I also don't think it's fair for their loved ones who now must provide care for
them for the rest of their lives or other
children who must always be put on the back burner for the safety and care
of their sibling.

I don't have an answer as to what is the better solution. I've never been in that situation so honestly I don't know what I'd do but I would think that if I had the choice to continue treatment and my child would have a lifetime of pain, suffering and no quality of life or to stop treatment and let my child pass that I would do the latter of the two.

teacupkat · August 2013

I'm feeling very tired, but I have one to share. Please pardon anything that makes no sense.
I feel like people have forgotten about the real meaning of having a wedding. When it really gets broken down, you are marrying the love of your life. Why let all the little crap that goes wrong, and maybe some bigger crap, get you down or make you mad, or even say it ruined your day??? As long as the one you love is still across from you saying "for richer, for poorer" what does all the stupid shit have to effect how the day went? I am sure there are difficult situations that arise and make the day harder than anticipated. Don't get me wrong. I just feel like reality shows have created a Wedding Monster out of brides and it has become more about "keeping up with the Jones". There are so many people who cannot have the wedding of their dreams. I feel like women have become ungrateful and just want a damn ring on their finger. Oh and lots of presents.
I wish people would remember the real meaning of celebrating love.
Blah.
ETA: this is probably more UO but I don't care right now.

zou bisou · August 2013

Is it too late in the day to add one more?

Based on the comments from a previous discussion, this thought will split people 50/50. I don't understand the mourning that someone women do about turning 30. My thirties have been my best decade yet. My twenties were filled with so much more self doubt and too much concern about what others thought. My self image is the best it's been, the added maturity helps me take more things with stride, I'm thankful to be healthy. Dh and I growing together rather than apart, and we're watching our family grow. This is a very good time of life. I would not go back in time for anything. I hope my 40, 50, 60 etc year old self will say similar things too.

tattooedtragedy · August 2013

Soozerella said:

Ktrue85 said:

@nicholssquared I just wanted to say I appreciated your thought out reply even though I kindly agree to disagree. But that's okay because I have chocolate and will share.

someone just told me that there was chocolate cake in another department.. 10:30 is time for cake right?

I had a chocolate cupcake with strawberry frosting at 8:15 (breakfast) and I didn't even feel bad about it

KFED103 · August 2013

kate14 said:
Totally off topic but my UO is that I think breastfeeding past 1 year starts to get ify. Once the kid is over 2 I think it's completely disgusting. I know that the new opionion it to breastfeed until the kid wants to stop by once the kid has teeth and can talk it just seem very wrong to me!

Disgusting? Kinda harsh. I'm not saying I wouldn't side eye a 5 year old nursing, but saying iffy past 1 and disgusting past 2 seems extreme. There are plenty of nursing two year olds that probably just nurse before bedtime and that isn't exactly what i would define as disgusting. And the teeth argument really annoys me....my DS had about 10 teeth by 9 months and I BFd until 15 months. He knew I wasn't a chew toy, so I don't really get that argument.

jmb527 · August 2013

whoa, I actually just caught up on this whole thread somehow and my head only hurts a little.

My comment on the God/religion debate: My Dad died from a secondary cancer in 2011. 5 months later my daughter was diagnosed with cancer at 18 months old. As a Mom with a kid who had a life threatening illness and will endure testing for the next 5 years, I despise when someone says "this was part of God's plan for her". Sorry I'm not sorry, but that is solid BS and no child should have this as her plan. No plan should involve a child getting cancer and going through ridiculous treatments that could ultimately cause cancer again later in life, not to mention side effects of the treatment that are lifelong. People now say since she's beaten it, that "God is so good, that is the power of prayer". Ummm NO. The chemo poison they put into her and radiation, and surgery is what was powerful. The last year + has seriously made me question what my beliefs have been and why.

I respect people who believe in God and have their own beliefs, and I honestly think if that's what gets them through each day fine, but please don't give me that crap and expect me to believe it. I'm not buying it right now, and maybe never will.

/end rant.

amberpro · August 2013

jmb527 said:
whoa, I actually just caught up on this whole thread somehow and my head only hurts a little.

My comment on the God/religion debate: My Dad died from a secondary cancer in 2011. 5 months later my daughter was diagnosed with cancer at 18 months old. As a Mom with a kid who had a life threatening illness and will endure testing for the next 5 years, I despise when someone says "this was part of God's plan for her". Sorry I'm not sorry, but that is solid BS and no child should have this as her plan. No plan should involve a child getting cancer and going through ridiculous treatments that could ultimately cause cancer again later in life, not to mention side effects of the treatment that are lifelong. People now say since she's beaten it, that "God is so good, that is the power of prayer". Ummm NO. The chemo poison they put into her and radiation, and surgery is what was powerful. The last year + has seriously made me question what my beliefs have been and why.

I respect people who believe in God and have their own beliefs, and I honestly think if that's what gets them through each day fine, but please don't give me that crap and expect me to believe it. I'm not buying it right now, and maybe never will.

/end rant.

I am a Christian with a strong faith. I think saying something is "God's plan" is trite and meaningless. He in no way wanted your child, or any child, to suffer like that. Even as a woman of faith, it bothers me when someone says the tragedy in my life or anyone else's is His plan. I think it creates a completely wrong picture of what God is.

utlawgirl · August 2013

zou bisou said:

Is it too late in the day to add one more?

Based on the comments from a previous discussion, this thought will split people 50/50. I don't understand the mourning that someone women do about turning 30. My thirties have been my best decade yet. My twenties were filled with so much more self doubt and too much concern about what others thought. My self image is the best it's been, the added maturity helps me take more things with stride, I'm thankful to be healthy. Dh and I growing together rather than apart, and we're watching our family grow. This is a very good time of life. I would not go back in time for anything. I hope my 40, 50, 60 etc year old self will say similar things too.

I LOVE being in my 30s. The thought of turning 40 skeeves me out a little more, but hopefully I can take it in stride. I have a few years.

utlawgirl · August 2013

Loolaide said:

Yay for an awesome FFFC thread!

I missed the boat on the religious discussion, but my $0.02 is that I don't like people telling me that I have "no right" to do something to my own body (that was stated in the original post from nicholssquared) - I feel that people should have the right not just to legally refuse treatment, but also to take medication to end their suffering (I was one of those people who actually thought Kevorkian was doing a good thing).

I confess that I regularly forget how far along I am and only know because I have to look it up for the hdbd pictures, when I do them.

I also confess (as a response to a UO posted above) that I still breastfeed my 16-month-old. I don't find it weird at all. I, and some other friends with kids the same age, have noticed that it seems to comfort him and provide emotional support, which he really needs as a toddler. I originally wanted to wean sometime after a year, but also do don't offer/don't refuse. Continuing the bf relationship is totally up to him and I don't find it icky at all. Saying that is like saying hugging and kissing him is icky.

I love cake but have had none today.

Totally agree with all of this. I thought I'd want to wean DD after a year, but she nursed until she was 17 months and we both decided we were ready to stop. I don't think I'd want to BF past age 2 at all, but that's a personal decision.

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